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Steve Huff posted his A7s review and I don’t know if that’s just his speculation or an info he got from Sony but he writes:
Sony has some new lenses planned for 2014 and 2015, one of then being an ultra wide zoom and a Zeiss 50 1.2.
UPDATE: SAR readers digged Steve’s “rumor” and it seems like the info is completely fake and based on a fake roadmap I posted a while ago: (See article here). Of course I wrote that this roadmap floating around the web is almost certainly 99% fake. But I guess some people didn’t get my message 🙂
That said the official Sony roadmap says a fast prime lens is on schedule. Although I would prefer to get a fast 35mm or 85mm lens first instead of the 50mm f/1.2. Or what would you like to get?
And here are soem more A7s tests: Sony A7S Sample Images at Photographyblog and Sony A7s silent shutter test by ThePhoBlographer on Instagramm. [UPDATE: Photographyblog just published the full A7s review.]
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Wooow… a 24-700mm lens?
Yes, and it will be at f0.95 too…
The lens will come with a trailer for mobility.
i seriously think that admin intentionally put some stupid typos in the post to get people to comment. He did this all the time.
It is a fun site. 🙂
Get some sleep, once a while
Andrea puts out more posts than all the other rumor sites combined! He doesn’t have the time to proofread each and every post!
No, who ever typed the post would surely notice the mistake right away. He kept doing this all the time. This is just silly and unprofessional.
Steve Huff gets cameras after sucking up to Seal and making connections but he doesn’t know what he’s talking about any more than anyone else out there.
Excuse me. Isn’t that very personal and negative? Is there something wrong to have friends who are quite visible or having good contacts?
Learn to read. SH is not a reliable source of information any more than any one else.
Well, SH is a person who is invited by Sony and Nikon when new models are in test, often long before they are available on the market. So, I personally think that Steve Huff is closer to information sources than anyone of us. I do not say that SH is a less or more reliable source of Info than this site here, but one thing I know that Steve’s site is a lot less annoying than this one when it concerns scam bombing. Since pay for click had become a sports on the Internet, many sites have become a waste of time, SAR brings us more scam than info, and DPR makes you click around many corners before you are allowed to see what you look for. All that sucks.
Agreed.
You sir do not understand this world……People need to earn money to live. No money no website no room for you to complain or enjoy. If you do not like it just don’t watch it.
You can put a camera even in the hands of a child and they might take some acceptable photos with it. It doesn’t mean they know what they’re doing.
So I was right that Steve Huff is an unreliable jackass you were wrong. You’re welcome.
I know how to understand not just read a post. Unreliable is way different than a lot of the things you spew. So are (unreliable) SAR’s many of the sources that remain “anonymous”. The whole site is based on such sources.
“16-35mm f/4.0 Zeiss. And that lens is rumored to be priced like the 24-700mm Zeiss.”
That would be nearly 2X the prices in Japan. Sony takes everyone living outside Japan for suckers.
then it will take another year to get a decent 85mm…
and then they release a camera with a new mount and the previous lenses only work with an adapter making the lenses slower… X’D
Worse would happen if they make the cameras outside of Japan.
Sony still supports all the mounts it has used in its cameras. You can’t say that for any other camera maker except Nikon though. I think the 85mm e mount lens is the longest rumour ever. One day it will come true.
Maybe SH got a message from the other side………….
He gets all his messages from his back side
Yeah, what would SH know, the guy’s an asshat.
and the 16-35…. they can close something before they start another speculation…
Thinking 85mm f1.8 ZA is more needed. Now … just saying 🙂
along with the 16-35
I agree, a stabilised portrait prime is sorely missing and then suddenly my a7 would take over another job, which currently needs a DSLR.
(although a 50mm f1.2 would be great)
It’d take oss primes to get me interested. IBIS is a godsend on a-mount, especially if you often shoot in low light situations where there isn’t a lot of subject movement (like me). And ideally something that doesn’t have the blue badge tax.
The 85 f1.8 and the 100 or 105 f2.8 Macro OSS must be the real priorities not a 50 f1.2…
http://photobyandrei.wordpress.com/
Does anybody know what the sync Speed is for the A7S in silent shutter mode? It seems to be not 1/250, otherwise we wouldn’t have that rolling effect.
Flash cannot be used in silent shutter mode. Same as GX7.
that’s silly, users should decide themselves.
Even if it doesn’t work?
Source that it doesn’t work?
Are photons from the flash any different from others?
The problem is flash duration and slow shutter. Only a small portion of the image would be lit by the flash. For the same reason this type of electronic shutter causes rolling shutter.
slow? so X-sync would be about 1/30 of second. Sometimes it’s acceptable, early 135 cameras had about that slow shutter or even slower.
Yeah, but in that case the shutter is fully open at shutter speeds of 1/30 or slower. This electronic shutter works in a different way: the shutter is never fully open, instead it scans the sensor slowly.
it’s the same thing with electronic rolling shutter, just Sony & Pana decided they shouldn’t give users such choice.
I’m not sure what you mean, but if you could sync a flash to the electronic focal plane shutter it would lead to photos which were lit only partly. I don’t know who would need a feature like that.
so? with mechanical focal plane shutter you get partially lit photos unless shutterspeed is slower than X-sync (about 1/160 or 1/250 on E-mount cameras). with electronic shutter it’s the same except x-sync is even slower.
X-sync is the same as fastest shutter speed where the shutter is fully open at once. With electronic shutter the shutter is never fully open at any moment, any shutter speed.
There is already a 55mm and a 35mm.
It’s time for a 24mm or a 28mm.
A 35mm f/1.4 is definitely needed ! the other one is really too slow at f/2.8 !
24-700mm Zeiss. If it’s f/4 i’d like one please.
If it’s not an f2.8 pancake I’m buying a Canon.
“And that lens is rumored to be priced like the 24-700mm Zeiss.”
They are all priced like their are 24-700mm. Even 35/2.8.
really surprised you made a rumor out of that but i guess you have to milk every piece of information you get. we all know that another 50mm lens is not needed at the moment…
I’d like to see Sony bring back some of the classic Minolta Rokkor lenses. The legendary 1.2/58mm and the 2.0/40mm! Make it happen Sony!
That legendary 58/1.2 isnt so legendary, unless they update coatings. It is a nice lens, but has trouble in very high contrast situations. I have the MC 58/1.4 version, converted to A-Mount and those old coatings really screw up the image. Maybe 50mm MD coatings are better, but 58 MC leave alot to be desired.
I do not understand why the system still does not portrait glass. in aps-с and FF it is not. I really need 85 or 135 mm glass.
Yes I know that the glass is A mount, but they only work with an adapter. And it is very bad, it has a focus points only in the area central part!!…. and it is very big. I do not see any reason to take a camera less than that would then turn it into the camera more.
Who needs to 50mmmm 1.2 ? I … do not know, everyone needs a 85 …. sony give me my 85 under E system! 🙂
The current 55mm f/1.8 is one of the best lenses available. There shouldn’t be any high demand on a 55/1.2. Although 35mm/1.x OSS would be nice, but also not really necessary because the current 35/2.8 very good (just a little bit slow). 24mm or 85mm would be more interesting. Or a EF-mount version of the A-mount 24-70/2.8.
So, a second 50mm, which is also a Zeiss? Doesn’t make much sense, I’ll believe it when I see it.
A 50mm 1.8 oss, now that I’d believe… Give me that, the 35/2 oss and a 100mm oss macro and I’d be very tempted to switch. Really can’t see all that happening before December 2015 though.
Quote. Much better 35 1.2 or 24 1.4
After the 50mm f1,8, it makes no sense. Or Sony wants to upset consumers ?
I doubt this rumor will realize soon.
50mm f/1.2 makes not much sense. Small difference to 55/1.8, the price would have to be enormous when 55/1.8 is alredy quite pricey. And the 50mm focal length is not that useful anyway – too short for portrait, too long for street/journalism/architecture/landscape. 85/1.4 or 35/1.4 are much better options.
It’s one whole stop faster than a f1.8. That’s a big difference. Every serious manufacturer has a 50 f1.2 or has made one at some point.
Shure, it’s always nice to have that option too, but there’s already a decent 55mm in the system, while there’s no portrait prime nor fast street photo prime.
right, but already? shouldn’t there be an 85, a nice macro and a faster wide angle first?
IMO the 55/1.8 is very reasonably priced, I mean right now here in China, not some other country that doesn’t see price fluctuations, or gets cheap rebates. I could see a point for this if it performs better than any other offering at this speed on the market, it could mean lots of bokeh and a razor sharp focus, instead of…bokeh everywhere.
28mm f2!!!
Actually, Michael Reichmann at Luminous Landscape posted this in his review more than a week ago. The roadmap he shared:
16-35mm f/4 Zeiss OSS (2014) (announced May 1, 2014)
85mm f/1.8 Zeiss OSS (2014)
100mm f/2.8 Macro G (2014)
35mm f/1.4 Zeiss (2014)
24mm f/2 Zeiss (2014)
28-135mm f/4 G OSS (2015) (announced May 1, 2014)
135mm f/2 Zeiss (2015)
21mm f/2.8 Zeiss (2015)
35mm f/2 G OSS (2015)
50mm f/1.2 Zeiss (2015)
Review: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_a7s_first_impressions.shtml
The roadmap shows 5 lenses for 2014 and he mentions 6 lenses.
Sounds like a wish list – a few I would like to have. 🙂
I would buy them all- at Japanese prices. 🙂
Zeiss are due to announce 5 manual focus FE primes lenses at Photokina (Sept) though I doubt many will be available this year
I do not believe that can be 85 OSS and 135 without OSS )))
I do not believe that there would be a 35 G faster than the 35/2.8 Zeiss…what are they thinking…
This is the first time the roadmap made it to this site
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/almost-certainly-fake-but-i-love-it-the-super-sony-fe-lens-roadmap/
he is defientely wrong…..
It would be nice of Sony to finally say something about the “announced” 16-35 4 …
Everybody knows, that a 16-35 4 will come .. but how about giving us some news about it? ….
I doubt that we will have any new lens in our hands by end of 2014….
Even if release date of one lens will be december 2014, with sonys selling strategy max 1 person will get it … The 70-200 4 is still (after a couple of copies were sent) not available in Sony Germany Store .. . Since months i only see available in a “couple of days”
The A7 / r / s are such great cameras … but Sony destroys a lot of that fun with theire lens strategy
16-35 is complete vaporware so far. What Sony did isn’t realy an announcement. There isn’t even a mockup, a sample or even an optical formula, patent or anything for this lens. We will be lucky to see it in Q4. Very disappointing as we will be at the one year mark for the a7 bodies before anyone will have anything wider than 24mm in their hands with full frame E-mount. Epic fail in my book.
APS-C E-mount took over three years for an ultra-wide. Please contain your tears.
What a completely idiotic response. Full frame shouldn’t have wide angle, WTF?
I was just wondering about the 35/1.4…but I may actually get a dp1q in its stead.
FE 35-70 2.8 OSS
FE 35-105 4 OSS
I could bet 5 bucks that neither of these are possible lol
Of course these are possible. There already exists lots of lenses within that range?
Or did you mean probable?
Mmmmm… Alright probable to be exact.
I used possible because they aren’t lenses from this age, and I think it would be highly, highly, highly unlikely that they would be revived.
Sony stated clearly, a few months ago, that E-Mount will be for Consumers and A-Mount will be for Pros. Why is everyone asking for pro lenses, when they bought in a consumer system? Also the current lenses on E-Mount point clearly to consumers and small-factor, that is why there are 16-35, 24-70 and 70-200 as an F4-Version for E-Mount and F2.8 for A-Mount, even Z- and G-labels are the same for their equivalent.
I think, every lens you get on E-Mount, which already have an equivalent on A-Mount, will be 1 stop slower, in case of aperture.
They brand lenses Zeiss to make them look more “Pro” and charge “Pro” prices.
Besides they released the a7s which at its price is of no use to an average consumer.
Even the DSC-HX400V has a 24-1200mm “Zeiss” lens! Seriously, that lens has NOTHING to do with Zeiss, it’s all just marketing to sell Sony consumer products to amateurs. Most likely, north of 99.9% of all A7 cameras are in the hands of amateurs. What users do you think Sony is making them for? What users should they have in mind when designing them? The 0.1% or the 99.9%? Sony MUST design them for amateurs and market them to amateurs, that’s what any good company caring for its customers would do!
I know. Still the brand is meant to make the product look more professional. At least all the interchangeable Sony Zeiss are the premium part of the line.
How do you know 99.9% are amateurs? Who gave you that number? And why do you think amateurs prefer slower lenses? I’d say amateurs prefer the biggest and baddest for the expanded capabilities, only poor people prefer slow lenses, amateurs and pros alike. It’s not like you can’t work with a f4.
It’s just a guess, but probably on the low side. Look at how many A7 and A7r cameras Sony managed to sell: a lot! The cameras are good and they sell. Now count the pro photographers shooting the A7 system. Yes, there are a couple of Sony Artist/Ambassador pros shooting the cameras, but they are paid by Sony and do not count. I’m sure there are independent pros shooting them, but they ARE few and far between. 0.1% is probably aiming high. But my point was that the VAST MAJORITY of people buying and using the A7 series cameras are amateurs, and that’s why Sony absolutely MUST have amateurs in mind when designing the system. You should think of your customers when designing products.
That reasoning is so convoluted and without an inch of sense, I can only just laugh. It’s hilarious.
The vast majority of people buying *all* cameras are amateurs. I don’t know about you, but I’ve never seen official figures released by any manufacturer revealing what percentage of folks who bought their cameras are using them professionally.
Hmm I’ve got a Sigma 35/1.4 and Zeiss 24/2. Does that make me pro?
Not really…now if you had the 135mm 1.8 then your pro.
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No, but it kind of makes you rich?
Was I not clear enough? What I meant was the lens speed you choose has nothing to do with whether you’re a pro or not, but much to do with how much cash you’ve got to burn. Now that I’ve repeated myself I still think I’ve been clear enough from the start.
All Zeiss branded lenses have their optics designed by Zeiss. Do some research.
“Sony stated clearly, a few months ago, that E-Mount will be for Consumers and A-Mount will be for Pros.”
Really? Where and when did Sony say this? Ah yes, that’s right, it didn’t.
Oh, and I didn’t realise smaller aperture and smaller form factor meant less pro. I guess no pros ever use f/4 lenses. Thanks for setting us straight.
Of course they do, but only from 600mm upwards.
So a Pro only uses smaller than F/4 lenses? Right, if they shoot a concert and could take an F/2.8 or an f/4 or even a F/5.6, they take the slowest they can get. Thank you for letting me know, how a pro thinks and works.
“Oh, and I didn’t realise smaller aperture and smaller form factor meant less pro. I guess no pros ever use f/4 lenses.” Where do you have read that phrase in my post? I haven’t said anything like that.
“I guess no pros ever use f/4 lenses.” And where have you read that?
What is the main difference between small and big aperture? Form factor (weight, size) which matters when you are travelling, af-speed which matters for action (bigger apertures means faster af), cost because a lens which is a stop slower is cheaper to produce than one with a stop faster.
Try to read correct please.
Oh and heres one link to the interview
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/dpreview-interview-with-kimio-maki-from-sony-explains-difference-between-e-and-a-mount/
And there was a video with an interview where he said it like that. And there was even a presentationslide. All here on SAR.
But something in interviews and presentationslides are not said, I know. It was just forming words and sentences but not saying.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/zeiss-presentation-hints-new-lens-line-guess-its-the-ff-nex-zeiss-lens/
E-mount is just for consumers? But their 55 1.8 is the second highest rated lens on Dyxomark. That’s just marketing speak for- “Hey alpha users, don’t look over here. We’re just playing around- no need to fear.” Of course, that’s until they start dropping ultra fast primes and deny they ever said anything.
In terms of all out IQ, the performance of the FE mount would suggest it is the pro line and not the other way around. The a77 isn’t convincing anyone- at least not me- that alpha is still intended for pro’s- I’m sure the warmed over A99II will say the same thing. Pro only in title.
“…deny they ever said anything”.
What DID Sony say? I’m intrigued, because it seems I missed some kind of official statement.
Sony for a Pro? Yeah… Right…
First they got to provide professional service and access to professional accessories.
+1
Not likely… Wide-aperture lenses are supposed to be reserved for A-Mount.
that would be typically for sony….to construct a 50 1.2…for an fast aperture prime it is the easiest and cheapiest way .to develop a 50 than 24,28, 35 or 85 are way more challenging and demanding…..
what a bummer….
oh sony…lacking innovations in lens design only innovatve in cams….
totally agree….
sony sony …
hope steve huff is wrong…..
lets pray and hope….only time will tell….
But a good 50mm f/1.2 on an A7s would make a great low-light combo.
50/1.2?
Better have power zoom or no deal.
so only one usabel excellent performing nagtive fe prime lens the 55 1.8….and if you like a zoom only the 70-200 is a stellar performer…..hopefully the 16-25 is performing much better than the 24-70 f4 at least when it is similar priced…..
yeah its a shame….sold my 24-70 f4….overpriced for its performance…corner sharpness is not as good as expected for a zeiss label and such price label….balm,e on sony and zeiss ….sadly its the bread and butter lens so i have to use the 55 1.8 only….
Stellar is a big word for products that are just on par with their peers. And it’s 16-35mm.
I think the next lens is the fixed focal lenght 85mm OSS with f/1.8 or 2.8! 1.8 will be expensive and to big for a small dslm.
It would be sensless to announce a lens with 50mm when there is already the 55/1.8!
The 24mm will comming After that, i hope.
We’re acting like the 16-35mm is official at this point but it hasn’t been announced yet, correct? I do hope Sony takes their time with this one; this could make or break the system for landscapers.
Official Sony Roadmap includes it: http://www.sony.net/Products/di/common/images/products/lenses/pdf/FE_LensExpansion_2014_05_Eng_140417B.pdf
Maybe someone should ask him if this is true. I have no problem leaving alpha mount- but I need an 85mm, and 135mm. Now if those are fast then we can assume they’ll be huge. Zeiss stated they will be releasing manual lenses for this mount though- is this one of them? Give me some stellar fast glass (I don’t care if it’s manual) and I’ll switch. Photokina is shaping up to be really interesting.
This lens seems to me that it would go against the ethos of the FE mount- small and light. But then again, maybe it’s manual and it’ll be relatively small.
a 50 f/1.2 doesn’t make sense right now….I wonder where Steve got that info from….he sounded pretty confident that that was the next lens ……I was always under the impression that the next lens would be a 85mm ….time will tell ….
we still haven’t heard anything for the 16-35mm uwa ….blah
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This is really sad. I’m constantly thinking about switching to a Sony A7… But the lens line up is still terrible. Why is it possible for Fuji to to it right? What’s wrong with you Sony?
And by the way…. Still no firmware Upgrades for my RX1? Still no way to trigger it remotely?
What’s sad? Announcing a 50mm 1.2 means we can probably expect some faster primes. This is good news rather than slow F4’s all day long and pseudo zeiss primes. I just hope they release some manual- no holds bars- zeiss primes. In terms of Fuji, they’ve been at it longer.
What’s sad? Announcing a 50mm 1.2 means we can probably expect some faster primes. This is good news rather than slow F4’s all day long and pseudo zeiss primes. I just hope they release some manual- no holds bars- zeiss primes. In terms of Fuji, they’ve been at it longer.
A7r Mark II or 50/1.2 FE OSS? Which one will come first? Any bets? 🙂
There are no lenses coming. Whatever they have are ~2X price outside Japan. These are facts.
Probably neither- we’ll be getting a new mount before any of those.
The thing is, there is already a nice 55mm available. Yes – I know. It is ‘just’ f/1.8, but nevertheless a decent lens.
Thats somewhat redundant in my book. The same goes for the standard zooms. Two almost identical lenses.
I’d love to see a small and reasonably fast 18mm, 24mm or even a 85mm prime.
Oh.. And I didn’t realised it, but there is yet another standard zoom announced. How exciting!
You make a good point. I don’t see much of a difference in separation anyhow from 1.4-1.8. People way over exaggerate it- and you get usually better performance stopped down with a 1.8. Anyhow, I need to check that lens out as I was wondering how the speed and build compared to the Zeiss 50mm 1.4.
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, dry your tears troll.
What a clever and constructive way to debate. I admire you.
Damn.. would love that 24-700mm where can i get that? 😛
On topic though: I think 50 1.2 is the right way to go, i think a lot of people would buy it.
Please remind reviewers that he Sony A7S comes with two batteries and an external charger in the retail box. After the A7 and A7R got knocked for internal charging (which I like) and 1 battery, Sony have made it right with the 7S – but the reviewers don’t even seem to be noticing or making a note that Sony has gone the extra step – how many other camera companies include two batteries?
who cares?!??? you can just buy dozens of them if you want. it’s not needed. not every user requires it.
anyone who is out taking pictures for more than 3 or 4 hours away from the house. the non-generic heavy wgt batteries aint cheap either. i never leave home with only one battery..and if i go out of town i take at least 5 charged. batteries are the new image film cartridges.
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anyone who [bla bla bla]. doesn’t apply to every user. for example, myself. I just need 1 battery. it’s enough for my professional work.
you can always buy more batteries if you like. it’s not a camera feature.
That’s like saying cameras should be sold with several memory cards etc. doesn’t make sense. if you need it you buy it if you don’t you don’t have to pay an extra pricetag because all those things are included.
That would be niece, but not happy with Sony FE lens set to date. Just not the same as the legacy A-mount.
with all due respect Andrea, It’s you in the first place who should confirm or decline this kind of stuff. Also please give us some hints about photokina. Should we wait with buing of A7s till the photokina and expect something more or don’t hesitate and dont expect something groundbreaking at photokina. Thanks
Don’t you think Andrea will post something if he has the information? Hold your horses buddy.
I don’t think it’s time for a 50 1.2 , we already have a 55 1.8 which is very similar !
The FE lens line up is missing a lot of focal lengths , i don’t think it’s time to show muscles in the fast lenses competition
16-35mm. WHEN??????????
24mm F/1.8 Zeiss and 85mm F/1.8 Zeiss por favor!
+1
As others said before, with the brilliant Zeiss FE 55/1.8, if Sony have any sort of strategy in their lens map, its more likely they are working on an 85 or 90 f1.8 and/or a prime around 20mm, why not 135 or even longer one.
Right. I bet on 85.
If they did a 135mm I’d leave alpha. But alas, I don’t see it happening and no way will it be 1.8. I was hoping these rumored Zeiss manual focus FE lenses would favor speed while keeping the size down.
Steve probably read about the 50mm 1.2 from your site.
This is the no lens repeating that happened to apsc cameras… We all know how that turned out.
Dear Zeiss- release the beast. Give me a 135mm F2 APO for FE! No adaptors- just solid glass, brass and balls. Do it!!!!