Sony community Germany you can watch and download full size A77II versus A77 ISO comparisons. At first glance the A77II looks both less noisier and sharper.
Sony A77II specs, preorders and shipment date:
Sony A77 body in USA at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), Sony Store (Click here) and BHphoto (Click here).
Sony A77 with 16-50mm lens at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), Sony Store (Click here) and BHphoto (Click here).
Sony A77 body in Europe at Sony Germany, Sony UK, Sony France, Sony IT, ES, NL, BE, AT, CH, PT, NO, SE, FI and Wex UK.
Sony A77 in Asia at Digitalrev.
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I like this!
i see a77 m2 at i1600 is worse than a77, i see only more sharpeing. more noise!
Disaster! im owner of a77, this is disaster.
thank god this is out!
I was looking for this in the past of few days, I refresh almost every camera sites early every hour I am in front of a computer
Not a very good comparison example.
yes I agree, why can’t this person just put two exactly same photos beside each other. But still better than nothing, look forward fir more comparisons.
Look forward about the firmware update for A77 users!!
There is no update for the a77 🙁
stop dreaming about it 🙂 sony wont do it. this is not sony approach
I do wish the people that who get opportunities like this actually knew how to do meaningful tests.
It’s not enough to change my old A77
SLT crap, above iso1600 unuseable !
Well, we’ve to be reasonable about this. Not many APS-C camera can pass @ISO 1600. a6000 is a very good one. I hope for matching a6000 image quality.
If any APS-C camera could do usable ISO1600, that would be a spectacular achievement.
A77-I could do ISO400, so even if A77-II can only do usable ISO640, that would still be a noteworthy improvement.
Why? Doesn’t your cat sit in the dark long enough?
Simple, turn on the light or buy A7S.
Bit weird that even @ ISO 200 the difference is really big. Never seen this big a difference at low ISO, I’m wondering why this is…
Can it do usable ISO800? Or ISO640 only?
A65/A77 reached up to ISO400, so ISO640 seems more realistic…
What on earth are you talking about? My old KM7D was usable at ISO800 and the a77 blows that out of the water. Unless you’re just another pixel peeper?
Nope, I resize all my images to 1280px.
My A65 (same sensor as A77) is not good at ISO800.
What are YOU talking about?
I resize all my photos to 1280×960.
A65 (same sensor as A77) is not good at ISO800.
What are YOU talking about?
I convert my RAW-Files with RawTherapee and up to ISO 1600 i can remove the noise without any loss of detail.
So either your camera is broken, or you use a shitty RAW-Converter.
The mk II looks cleaner and with no color noise on iso 16000
I think thats a typo and should be 1600.
Seems incredible. I thought it was a typo too but there’s another pic at 1600. And the exif info clearly shows 16000.
Need this kind of testing but more.
Definitely see some improvement but not enough info to fully compare..eg..differrent iso etc
Good stuff but need to see more.
I can’t tell much from those photo’s but it looks promising enough. I would have thought this camera would be creating more buzz. We’ll see after some more AF tests hit the web. I still think I’ll pick this up.
This is not a buzzworthy camera.
Its an old…..but good… camera with minor improvement.
A77 owners who WANT TO UPGRADE want to know if there is any reason to do so.
Are you losing a lot of shots and think the a77II’s new AF system/buffer will make a difference, then yes. Personally, I think the tests look ‘cool’ but mostly are bragging rights. Like buying a Corvette to boast it drives crazy fast on a “Motor Trend” test track when you’ll never take it much faster than the posted highway speed.
The IQ bump appears to be noticeable in crops – yes, I realize we’re looking at early dribbles – but of little practical use. Certainly, I’m finding the a77II IQ to be disappointing based on all the samples I’ve seen thus far. A 20% improvement in sensitivity is a nice talking point but who expected such a stat to really move the IQ needle?
Despite all my carping over the a77II I pre-ordered a copy because I really want to upgrade my a65. I wanted to be in line in case it surprised me but I’m fully expecting to cancel the order.
The buffer and frame rate is not an issue for me.
I am concerned with CLEAN iso.
I am currently satisfied with 1600 on the a77. If we factor in both the real iso increase of about 2/3 f stop and the IQ improvements I would like iso 6400 to be comparable in resolution and noise to 1600 on the old camera.
Since I will be shooting birds in flight tracking AF is also very important to me.
The single most important issue for me is resolution..and here this camera offers no improvement over the a77…therefore it will require a substantial improvement in af and at least a 2 stop clean iso advantage for me to justify the upgrade.
At this point I am still on the fence but definitely leaning towards no.
Just give us the damn a99II already. I’m tired of waiting.
me too!
Agree. I have the A77. But i want to uppgrade to a A99 mk II
AMEN!!!! can we please see some A99II rumors too? SR1, SR2, whatever you have!?
The problem with SR1-SR3 rumors is, based on that crap, I built up hopes the a77II would really be something special, significantly bump IQ. Instead we get the a77II which is pretty much an a6000 in a better body.
I’m pretty much done over getting my hopes up over bs rumors which, in hindsight, are laughable now. They’re only good for lively debates over fanboy wish lists of features. Nothing more.
This might explain why it looks like Sony has clamped down on leaks to SAR. SAR has pretty much become an early ‘warning’ system between 2 days to 1 week pre-official announcement.
You are an idiot if you genuinely believe that you might get whole stops improvements in sensor tech for any given size, just laughable. But this is literally what idiots like yourself believe on a daily basis and get yourself hyped up for and then disappointed. Go join another brand, I’m sure they will give you the improvements you think you aren’t getting here.
You are not doing “your brand” any favors by using the “idiot” word for anyone and everyone. Take it easy. Shift your shares elsewhere. 🙂
Are you the same muppet who thinks the A7S uses a Nikon sensor? Yeah I can see ‘my brand’ users are absolute geniuses!
LOL. Did you see the video on the A7/7R teardown. Hey, even the mothership puts the shutter in the wrong place. One can only aspire to reach that level while using one of the “gadgets”. LOL.
I’m thrilled and amazed for you that you have nothing better to do than watch that, your life seems rewarding.
Did I mention a full stop?
It is easy to sit around and say ‘I expected IQ improvements’ and when there are some to say ‘I expected MORE IQ improvements’ without ever saying how much of an improvement. At what point would you be actually happy and not just a whinging little girl?
Mr. ‘Fargis’,
You mention “bump IQ” and move the “IQ needle” a couple of times. Could you be more specific in regard as to what moves the “IQ needle”? Also, could you provide a measurable definition of Image Quality?
Respectfully
Gary L Braswell
Richmond VA
What makes you a sock puppet isn’t he fact you use a pseudonym. You’re a sock puppet because you create multiple accounts with pseudonyms on-the-fly to troll SAR, bully people like Barry off the site, and make it appear through fake accounts you have more support than you actually do for your grade school behavior.
People like myself and most the commenters on SAR use a pseudonym because of vicious kiddies like you. Many years ago I ran into a couple of sock puppets like yourself who bullied a guy like Barry and went so far they took pictures of his kids playing in the yard and posted them plus publicized his phone number and address.
So what do we have here now? A vicious bully so clinically obsessed with psychosis they’re tracking me down on the Internet to start exposing me publically. Really? If you’re like 12 maybe I can begin to fathom why you think this might be a clever idea.
Using the pseudonym “Gary L Braswell” is in extremely poor taste but for reasons I’ll forgive you because you have no clue what you’re doing or who he is.
I’m.not sure who you ‘think’ you are talking to there mate, but you sound absolutely delusional. Good luck with that, time to get back on the meds. I only use one screen name on all the rumour sites champ.
Also way to skirt the question as usual. All these farkin’ old farts think they have some ‘higher right’ because they have something to say. Just drop off the perch you loser, go take them BIFs because you have no life and BIF is your little hobby, but don’t go around pretending that you NEED something better, apart from some skill, “your BIF photos are really important” said nobody ever.
“I only use one screen name on all the rumour sites champ.”
Well, well. Defensive aren’t we I’m exposing a multiple-personality sock puppet troll aren’t we? You’re acting like I was talking to you. Curious.
How do I know “Gary L Braswell” is a fake sock puppet? Easy, I got fed up with a sock puppet troll attacking Barry and exposed him for the juvenile kiddie he is. My reward – huge shock – is he’s going after me now, typical sock puppet behavior.
To get an understanding how vicious and mental this sock puppet kiddie troll is, he’s stalking me on the Internet and took on pseudonym he presumed to be me in a lame attempt at trying to expose my real name. Unfortunate for the sock puppet, he dug up the owner of a web site I used to blog on and assumed it to be me. Actually, it’s the name of a close friend of mine who passed away about 2 years ago. Here’s the real “Gary L Braswell” late of Richmond, VA:
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2895/14156924282_6caa350b85_b_d.jpg
The reason I don’t respond to you’re baloney is you’re likely just one more incarnation of said sock puppet or one of his sycophants. You’re into bullying and harassment not real discussion so what would be the point, mate?
If the 20% mirror plus gapless microlens as rumored did materialize that would have produced a real light gain of close to a full stop.
If you add in improved noise handling from the new processor two stops of usable clean iso would actually be a very reasonble expectation.
As usual however the hype seems to have far exceeded the reality.
I also know for a fact thet Sony has deliberately leaked outright lies exagerating the performance of this camera.
Nonsense. Best case scenario that would have given a total of 0.45 EV improvement instead of 0.26 EV. People still don’t seem to understand how these scales work. Most expected noise improvements tend to be unreasonable, regardless of brand.
I agree. A pity.
Don’t lose hope my Sony Fanboys! Sony is capable of game changing technology. Secret is, they already have the 1, 2 stop improvements sensors, however they must play the marketing games to get R&D recovery costs. The plan is to get prepared with slower lenses etc… (notice how the E-Mount F4 lenses cost so much ;-). In a couple of years some expensive E-Mounts will hit the market. The image quality will be better than today’s camera’s large F2.8 lenses. Mark my words, you heard it first right here. To follow will be the A-Mount versions. (warning, I just made all this up, none the less it will come true, I cross my heart)
Any rumour will be good, wrong nevermind.
Forget about comparing with the rubbish ISO of an A77 and let’s see it beside a Nikon D7100 – that is the real competition. I have both and want to know if the MkII will be as good or better than the D7100 and stop wittering on about the A99 – compare APS-Cs.
Rumors are Nikon will be announcing a D7200 this summer. Sony just matching yesterday’s news (slightly cheaper) D7100 is a fail.
The a77II appears to be a case of the little bit of engineering effort pumped into its development piggy-backing pretty much on the extensive work done on the a6000. Other than gaming a few more points on the synthetic DxO benchmark tests, the a6000 didn’t move the IQ needle. It was mostly about AF and FPS. Pretty much the same story with the a77II except didn’t it already best the D7100 and I didn’t see Nikon owners flee wholesale to Sony.
I’m sure I’ll get flamed again by all the Sony fanboys but the a77II largely misses the mark, IMHO, in where Sony needed to go in reviving the a-mount they’ve incompetently marketed all these long years. Certainly big AF/FPS improvement in the a6000 was sorely needed and set the mirrorless world on fire but the issues with the a77 are different. This would all be well and good if it wouldn’t be another 3 long years for an a77III and all the ‘kill the a-mount’ folks will be wondering if it even has that long every day going forward.
i´m quite happy if all nikon bobs stick with nikon forever.
Don’t get your point but it doesn’t really matter.
This is pure guess-timate on my part, but I expect any Nikon D7200 will be pretty much what the a77II is. They’ll try to source Sony’s improved sensor and, based on what they’ve been doing with their poor selling Nikon 1 mirrorless system, sweat AF/FPS quite a bit.
Point being, if the a77 didn’t sway people from the a7xxx before not sure Sony’s done anything to change minds which, IMHO, Sony marketing desperately needs to try to do if the a-mount is to have a vital future.
On a side note, I read about Sony’s latest poor financial quarter and amongst the problems listed was more disappointment in camera sales. While Sony e-mount fans are quite excited over their marketing department’s strategy of cannibalizing a-mounts with e-mounts, I see it as a huge fail.
Of course sony camera sales have droped..they have essentially produced no new A mount cameras since the a77 and a99.
And when I say no new cameras that includes this one.
I also think Sony needs to do a better job differentiating a-mounts and e-mounts plus demonstrating support of the system. There’s a widespread perception (fair or not) I picked up first joining SAR Sony is looking at transitioning everyone to e-mounts. You’d think it’d be in their best interest to squash those rumors, make the systems complementary, and sell more stuff in the process.
A lot of the puzzlement I read in the comments over a-mount sales revolves around the inferiority of the Canikon competition. Surely, of all the companies in the world Sony should realize a ‘build a better mousetrap’ marketing strategy alone won’t move product given their Betamax debacle which got squashed against VHS.
So what should have been better? I see a lot of A77 II is crap posts around, but please, enlighten me as to why it is actually crap. Seems pretty darn good to me. How do you think it ‘could’ have moved the IQ needle?
Most Nikon fans were incredibly disappointed with the D7100 as the closest replacement to the D300.
High iso is only part of the story. How will the d7200’s af performance compare to the a77ii? What about af in video? Iso performance at everyday settings? I’m very impressed that you’ve been able to extensively test the a77ii before it’s hit the shelves though…
I’ll have to disagree with your assessment. Technology has never been the problem with Sony being competitive, it is largely marketing and the perceived lack of lenses due to Sony not simply slapping a Sony sticker on existing Minolta glass.
Remove the badges from the A77 and D7100 and put them in the hands of noobs, see which one they prefer and I bet the majority choose the one with the big electronic viewfinder, fast liveview and video AF that actually works properly.
CaNikon shooters have been astounded when I hand my A77 to them.
Which goes along with a long-standing observation I’ve had why doesn’t Sony bother to market their SLTs state-side? When I was shopping my a65 years ago the only body I could get my hands on was an a3x and that was in a Sears of all places. ;^)
Because until now Sony have not taken stills imaging seriously. Now they HAVE to start marketing as imaging is one of their core businesses now that their previous core businesses (TV etc) are failing.
I have seen an increase in marketing over the last few months, too little too late for dSLR/SLT though.
I’m really glad I started this. I must point out that we don’t have a D7200 so the argument is pointless. I bought the D7100 for it’s fast AF shooting birds in flight. Something the A77 or A99 cannot do. However, the old 70-400 (which I had) couldn’t keep pace either but that has now been rectified with the Mk II (which I have). I believe that the A77 MkII with the new 70-400mm will do the job as good as the D7100. I will try both of these systems out in the field and then make up my mind which way to jump but it will not be based on Jam tomorrow. Also the ISO in the D7100 (and the A580) is better than the old A77, which is essential in this poor weather country, to combat low light whilst keeping high shutter speeds.
” I bought the D7100 for it’s fast AF shooting birds in flight. Something the A77 or A99 cannot do.”
Really? That’s new to me and it’ll be news to all the other A77 users too!
It was before the firmware update.
What?
The point I am making is that if you go to flickr there are plenty of BiF shots using the A77, so your technique is the issue not the A77.
Funny how my technique is ok with the d7100. I have had both and still have an A99. I have shot birds in flight with all these cameras but the D7100 is in a different league with both fast AF and tracking. Don’t try and tell me what is best for me I already know by trying them out. Have you?
lol
…so I must have been f@cking lucky when I caught eagles with the A99 (with firmware 1). :/
I’ve seen people successfully shooting swallows in flight (about as hard as it gets) with the A77, people that lived through WWII shooting r/c models and fulsize planes in flight with A77 and then I read this. Heh.
RAW NR, clear as day..
There are other than those who already have an A77 camera that it might be interesting to upgrade their camera! I have a Sony A55 and the further improvements that A77 M2 now has got is probably the extra edge needed for me to want to upgrade.
I think these photo comparisons still gives a good indication in the right direction, although it is not a perfect basis for evaluating differences in image quality.
I think it looks promising 🙂
i still wonder if the mirror a77ll allows more light to the sensor,as it was mentionend in early specs and could it be possible to change it to my a77
From what I can tell the new 20% mirror that was rumored was never incorporated into this camera and the same mirror as the a77…30% …. was used.
Sony does have an intersting patent pending for a mirror with more reflectance in the center and less on the edges…see todays tid bits.
Is it a mirror, or just a piece of reflective plastic?
Yes
What do you think most modern airplanes are made out of?
Why is plastic seen as a ‘cheap’ material? It’s not!
The mirror on these cameras has to be thin. Theres NO WAY it could be made out of glass.
Think before you run your little troll mouth off.
Yeah, thats enough of this bullsh!t.
Plastic is EVERYWHERE. What do you think is in the guts of your Canon L lenses? PLASTIC. It’s not metal. Plastic mount. Don’t believe me?
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/12/assumptions-expectations-and-plastic-mounts
If the person I spoke to at Sony is more reliable than the people some people have spoken to 😉 my A77m2 should be with me in a few days 🙁
I would have posted some comparison shots but my A77 shutter finally died today 🙁 – and anyway, people here would only moan about them 😉
How many clicks did u get out of it.
171445
I can’t wait for my a77mk2. Its a beautiful way for sony to give us one last a mount camera. From what I know, its sounds like there are no plans for a a99 successor. The only a mount stuff getting released these days are things that were already developed.
I doubt that the A99 will be the last, I’d have money on there being an A99II with AF improvements that they learnt from testing the A77II. The A99 is only 18 months old, so the A99II is a long way off yet.
I think the A 99 mk II will come this year. Thats because i dont think that Sony will sit on the fence and watch other camerabrands have the best iso standard. Normally thy would have to wait for the mk II type. But the progress forces Sony to release a A 99 mk II later this year
Why on Would they build an A99ii when nobody is buying the A77ii (pre-order) I mean, if they build it, nobody will come, so why bother?
You are measuring the success of a camera based on pre-orders of the A77II that most people doesn’t know exists?
That’s what the people that want a DED A-mount want; keep others from buying something today for the eternal better tomorrow, tell you that there is no interest, tell you that no one cares, tell you that no one should ever care because you can always give two $h!ts elsewhere.
Yeah! Come on! Get in there, son…you go and get them pesky customers! A-mount forever DED!
Trust me friend there won’t be anymor. Alpha mount cameras. I know whats coming next and with the improvement in high iso, fast af, and and a nice 3 axis ibs we won’t be needing the a mount anymore. Be patient and start saving 😉
Sony have a LOT of lenses to release before they can drop A-mount. A-mount lenses will NOT AF fast on mirror-less, SLT is not going anywhere yet.
A-mount is DED! Can’t you see? People want it DED!
Dead as we know it, I think the next a mount cameras will be mind blowing
This is entirely true. I can corroborate that the A77II will be the LAST dedicated A-mount camera. I cannot say anymore or risk breaking an NDA.
You are walking a fine line. Do not say anything else about this.
ok
What just happened here? 2 trolls? 1 troll? Someone actually say something they shouldnt have?
Lol no worries, theyre total trolls. We will see some amazing a mount cameras in the future!
One troll 4 screen names.
A-mount is DED because the logic of “wait until X, it will be better” logic rolls around here too much. What if the man just wants an APS-C camera?
Yeah, cause you’re believable. Troll.
> From what I know
If your imagination is starting to get “knowing”, you gonna have a bad time.
ITT: Pixel peepers bicker with each other.
The A77ii has officially dropped off the Amazon top 100 list that Admin provided a few days ago. More people are ordering the K1000 from 30 years ago, or simply every single camera body ever made in the last 5 years. No one wants this thing. What will Sony do now?
Hopefully, do what I’ve been hoping they’d be doing a long time ago: Put some marketing and engineering talent into differentiating it beyond just being a larger, older DSLR-style body they’re hoping to get people to transition off of.
Errr like an a6000 then? You make.lots of claims as to what Sony ‘should’ do, but back it up with very little in the way of specifics.
Well since the announcement was ages ago it is hardly surprising that the initial interest has gone. Not rocket science is it?
“Ages ago.” 🙂
mainstream reviews are yet to come and a77ii isn’t launched yet
Personally I’m going to buy it but won’t pre-order it .. Most people won’t pre-order to see more reviews and test to decide
I have both and want to know if the MkII will be as good or better than the D7100 and stop wittering on about the A99 – compare APS-Cs. http://num.to/904.970.893.852
Your link points to a Playstation game for sale on Amazon. You might want to update it. ;^)
hahaha!
now we all know something we wouldn’t otherwise know.
I moved from a Nikon d50-d60-d70-d80-d90,d5100,d5200,d5300- d200, d300, d300s,d700. Canon 5D,5DII,5D3,6D, sony nex5,nex6,nex7,a6000,fuji x100,x100s,xe2,Xt-1, Sony A7, back to a D4, moved on to a M43 with a Em5, Em1, then back to a Nikon V3 then on to A77.
If this test is true, I am totally digging the thought of this camera being “THE ONE” for me. Sarcasm
I’m a funny troll, don’t you think? I post all this cute stuff in everybody’s face and I get all tickled at how funny I am. I fart, then giggle, and vote that my farts are the funniest, and then log in as someone else and and vote my own farts up and sling some more sh*t and admire myself for my towering wit.
Just look at how smart I am! I befuddle hundreds of camera fans everyday, logging as dozens and dozens of FF Fu@kFreaks and simply controlling the forum by lying and spinning, sputtering and fuming, confusing and confronting, bullying and barking. I am just so so so much smarter than all of you “nerdiez” with your High School education and your inferior cameras. I laugh at you and cheer for myself. FullFlame rules…… and I’ll with beat you to death with my Nine-Pound Nikon.
Just post anything nice about your favorite mirror-less camera, I’ll be right here with my “LiarsBrigade” and we will prove our mental-ness on you!
We’re waiting . . . .
Great news for people shooting bank notes all day! The A77II is much better at that. Until you realize of course that bank notes don’t move so you can easily shoot them at iSO100 on a tripod all the time, with any camera.
So unless someone is shooting the A77II in real low light (below EV 6, or ISO 1600, f2.8, 1/125s), most samples up to now are quite useless to assess low light performance.
LOL also great sample for those who shoot brick walls.
Hey! I shoot brick walls for a living. Well, that, and stone, plaster, aluminum, wood and more.
In what way does it matter if the low light to the sensor is due to poor lit room or just created by a small aperture and short exposure time????
How does the sensor tell the difference?
It can’t. But low light scenes usually contain very deep shadows which makes noise more apparent, and the accompanied high fraction of artificial light also has a detrimental effect.
Ummm, some cameras just don’t have ISO 100.
Some things are not solved by just giving a longer exposure, like pixel crosstalk, colorshift, bad AA filter, dead/hot pixels etc.
There are lots of whiners who seem to think that their photography will become good if only they can get usable shots at ISO 25,600. High ISO is good, but it’s not everything in a camera. The image quality from other brands’ APS-C cameras 5 years ago is quite decent, and no doubt the A77II will fly past those. It will probably reach the quality of most current APS-C cameras by other brands. In the end, the reason you buy a Sony is because it’s good enough at high ISO, even if a bit behind the rest due to the translucent* mirror (*Don’t get on my case about terminology) and you enjoy the SUPERIOR things that the cameras bring to the table, such as high burst rate, a what-you-see-is-what-you-get EVF which can show the exact exposure the picture will be taken at, good autofocus in live-view mode and movies, etc. Sony, as far as I’m concerned, is trying the hardest and has the best cameras. To me, the benefits (stated above) vastly outweigh the drawbacks (1/2 stop worse, only visible at high ISOs). If your photography skills can’t deal with that minor decrease in light, then definitely, you should go elsewhere. With that said, the A77II’s pictures look superior to those of the A77, so improvements are still being made.
Not everyone is a baseless extremophile. Personally, my interest in the A77 II is about wildlife photography. In a very real and serious way, I need to use 1600 ISO, perhaps, even slightly more on occasion. So I am looking for meaningful samples at that range to determine how big of a real life print can be made without looking awful from the noise.
So far, I think it’s okay for 18×12 prints. Eventually, I’ll just rent the thing and find out in real life.
Point is, sometimes people have genuine use cases that justify a push for better high ISO performance.
Well, unless you’re a whiner, Charrick isn’t even speaking to you and your needs.
Then use the correct tool for the job. The A77 isn’t for you so get something else.
Same here .. I need a77II for bird photography .. I need cropping more than any type of photography , some times I can’t get closer to birds specially sea birds like flamingos, herons, egrets.. etc.
For cropping you need to go no far than ISO 200 with a77, and I’m hoping for ISO 800 or at least 400.
1 stop means a lot to me , with better AF tracking and AF limiter it’s almost a dream came true.
If they removed the AA filter it would be my dream camera
Then get a Nikon.
If I can sell all my A-mount lenses I would switch to Nikon and keep the A7 only.
I have A-mount lenses and accessories that cost more than $13,000.
I’m in the process of switching to Nikon. I have (had) $12K in Minolta/Sony lenses and sold all but a small few. I do need the higher ISO and DON’T need that stupid slide show effect when tracking/shooting fast movers.
Yeah – I’ve never understood people bitc*ing about a brand not living up to their needs. If it isnt working for you, do something about it! Sell your Sony gear and and get a Canikon. And dont use the excuse that ‘the cost to change brands is too high.’ What’s the cost of being held back by your gear? You’ll be happier once you get gear that fits your needs. If you just sit and wait for a company to fit your needs (when clearly their focus is elsewhere) you have NO right to complain.
That said, Sony is the right camera brand for me. My focus aligns with their focus. And while it is important, High ISO is NOT a dealbreaker for me. So…I stick with Sony.
Thats what the a99 is for, 1,5 Stops better noise performance.
And far less than half the framerate and only about 10mp resolution at APS-C size crops. It’s hardly a directly comparison. The a99 is not an ideal wildlife camera. Plus 1.5 stops is about a 50% exaggeration of reality.
Charrick, I couldn’t have said it better myself. Spot on. You’re one of the few that’s able to see things as they are without turning into a ****. 🙂 Thank you!
This is a test where those who shoot only or mostly jpegs can benefit since there is yet a test showing the .ARWs that can then show what the camera is really capable of.
Come on, bank notes! Is this a game of “who can find the worst possible test target?”.
The A77II does an excellent job for a sub $1200.00 camera. I’ve concluded that this is an definitely a worthy upgrade from the original model, after viewing the this test and the other tests that have been posted.
When will a real review from someone credible going to be posted? These tests are getting annoying, maybe the dimwit should just compile them and post a review.
Maybe after it is available? Do you think that might be an appropriate time?
Absolutely not!!! Sony obviously made early, copies available for reviewers, to do their bit.
Sony should be putting their pre-release cameras into the hands of people who know how to test them. It appears that clueless bloggers get hold of them and it doesn’t do Sony any favours putting their cameras in the hands of people who can’t take a photo.
Real world test with A77ii on Flickr! s://www.flickr.com/photos/berlinbackstage/13956136409/in/photostream/
Thanks for posting this. One of the better dribbles thus far with a decent comparison of the a6000 to the a77II. Is it the quid essential final answer photo nerds sniffing over the dribbles thus far are crying for? Nope but I find some encouragement in it.
Hi Guys
Any news on new firmware for the Alpha A77? (Version 1.08?)
That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all week. Next you’ll be asking for world peace.
There IS another firmware update: its called a77 Mk II.
lol. firmware update. haha.
There will not be a firmware update for the current A77 camera. The A77II was released to address concerns brought up from customers. Thank you for using Sony Cameras.
Sincerely,
The A77II Team
So you mean a camera that’s nearly 3 years new is better than the older camera? Wow!
Wow, you truly are a genuine idiot.
Yup ! Just like the Canon 1200D is FAR FAR better than the 4 year old Canon 7D. 😀