Cinema5D had the pleasure to help Sony with suggestions for the A7s development:
The cinema5D team was included in the design process and what Sony showed us yesterday was nothing short of a very pleasing result. They had listened to the shooters when they built this camera.
Good to hear Sony worked hard to get feedback from important sites. But like all other sites also Cinema5D isn’t sure about the final price:
There is no pricing on this camera yet, but it can be presumed that it will be in the $2000 range just like the previous A7 models.
By the way, notice the confusion on the price. DC.watch writes the price is a couple fo times higher than that of the A7.
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Sony will probably introduce a battery grip/ 4k recorder to fit the new stainless steel mount. It will probably also allow faster continuous exposures.
Leaving these features for an add on device eliminates the problem of overheating and allows those who dont need these features to not buy them.
4k battery grip form factor recorder sounds nice accessories, well built integrated and keeping a7s 4k handheldable,
but..
1. you still have to connect it on mini hdmi out via cable on side
2. need to re attached grip when changing battery, 4k vg recorder dont have space for extra batt
Unless some corresponding electrical connections are built into camera and grip.
As for changing the battery..Im sure sony can figure out how to do that..after all how many Sony engineers does it take to change a battery???
Good idea, I wonder if the brilliant engineers at Sony would be able to fit a recorder inside the current A7 battery grip design. Cause I know some people was wondering why the battery grip is kinda huge for the A7/A7r.
That makes sense..so they dont need to make a totally new desighn for each model.
Perhaps it will be available with and withough recorder and both will fit all a7 camera models..in that case we have already seen the first of these 2 models.
Stainless steel mount for lenses… 4K recorder… I don’t know how you can fit a recorder in a mount… ?????
If the stainless steel mount is for lenses..makes sense…then the battery grip / 4k recorder will obviously attach somewhere else.
Well, Barry, they spoke about a stainless steel lens mount, that’s why I went “????” 😉
But I do agree with you: for those interested in a nice 4K recorder, one that can be screwed in the tripod mount would be a nice addition.
And maybe, who knows, is on its way already.
Take care.
This would be great. Sadly, I don’t think Sony is clever enough to have the right connection for this on the camera. I suppose if they came out with a battery grip with an hdmi input, that might work, but then it wouldn’t really be a battery grip. The gh4 has this solution set up pretty well, which gives us an idea of the size needed for that to work.
It is always good when companies listen to customers. A7s does indeed capture alot of what people wanted in a video camera.
Hopefully they won’t mess up the price.
I want this sooo bad. I always need more low light. I think $2000 is ok price for this. I hope they don’t get crazy with pricing like Nikon Df.
Hey, just wait ’til September when it’ll be reduced to $1000 :-p
I hope they do not price it like the RX1 European prices (definite no buy for me in that case!).
For the auto focus in the video function, is there a aperture limit/cut off at f/3.5?
f3.5 limit only on slt. with ospdaf it shouldnt a problem
A7S doesnt use OSPDAF. It is using Contrast detection only therefore it will be a very slow focus for video and sports shooting. This is when I will EA4 adapter for faster AF w/ my A-mount lenses. I’m not expecting a superb AF performance like A99’s dual AF but as long it can focus in the dark then it is gunna be great for me.
I don’t know why Sony is limiting AF feature at f3.5 but I’m thinking because they don’t want their high end video cameras to be cannibalized by their Alpha series cameras. And I’m not buying the “it cannot autofocus properly with a wider aperture than f/3.5” because it can definitely autofocus at f1.8 very well on a77 if you do the lens aperture trick.
As for my video use, I will definitely use a wider lens and mount this baby of a stabilizer. I know I will miss the video steady shot feature but maybe Sony will someday make a DSLR type E-mount camera with a video steadyshot…I’m hoping for it someday but til now, I just cant wait to get my hands on this baby.
You don’t have to do the lenes aperture trick (assuming by that we mean phisically jam the aperture lever wide open). All you have to do is use autofocus then press AF/MF to drop into manual focus. As soon as you do that, you of course go into manual, but an undocumented feature is that you are also wide open and still in focus.
You have to also go into settings to make AF/MF a toggle rather than a ‘keep pressed to maintain change’. I think its the latter by default, which is why so few people have stumbled upon this nice little hack 🙂
Every event photographers out there need atleast a minimum of 2 cameras. If it’s strategically priced around $2k then I might get myself a pair with a native FE 35mm f/2.8 for video, battery grips, extra batteries, and an LAEA4 adapter for my A-mount lenses. Sony will sell more A7S if the price is affordable and ofcourse they will make more profit from the accessories.
if it sub 2000 im in…
i guess sony allready sent one to dxomark.
if it score 5000+ on high iso mark, it’ll be the new king on high iso sports category, but im affraid it’ll cost like DF
Max 2.5k if not I’ll wait for price to come down.
I’m here at NAB and the guy at the Sony booth said it’ll be more than the A7R. He threw out $2500 but it was a guess. I did crank it up to ISO 400k and it was so obnoxiously bright. Awesome. The guy said on this camera up to 64k ISO is pretty clean and what most would consider very usable. 64000! Crazy.
Maybe he’s talking about ISO6,400?? People seldom use that ISO, it’s 51,200 or 102,400.
What is the point of the show if the cameras are not available to be tried?? The Sony guy at the presentation said ISO400K!
4K Killer Combination from Atomos and Sony:
http://www.cinema5d.com/news/?p=24676
Atomos 7” Shogun and Sony A7S a nice 4K recording combo:
http://www.atomos.com/shogun/
NAB 2014: Atomos Shogun 4K recorder for Sony a7S:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-THzgdsRTZM
2000$ is too much . If you want 4K you need to spend another 2000$ for Atomos recorder . This is 4000$ for 4K . Panasonic offer 4K for just 1600$ . Of course gh4 is not low light killer but iso 3200 looks enough good . Who needs ISO 50-409600 ? This is not natural to change night into day .
There is something to be said about full frame. If you don’t appreciate it, then it’s not for you. The GH4 is a great machine. Lots of choices out there.
This is why the A7s only records 4K on an external recorder:
http://www.androidcentral.com/gapping-and-4k-heat-reported-sony-xperia-z2-owners
haha, I was just reading the same thing a second ago and thought of the a7s. Sony is slowly winning me over…. first with the a7r, now with the z2 (I just need it to come out on VZW!!)
Will we ever see another alpha A-MOUNT again?
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I see this camera as the final kick in the balls to alpha mount users. Damage is done now- you can’t offer this in a-mount but you continue to offer the overpriced a99?
“Alpha follows high end product cycles”- hog wash. People can keep saying this but it makes ZERO sense. Pro users want to be able to offer their clients the latest technology and a pro line should offer it first. There pinching users hoping they’ll buckle and just pick up an alpha A7(S/R).
We now have more e-mount FF cameras then we have EVER been offered in alpha mount. Message is clear.
Of course. Admin has said repeatedly the a77II announcement is a few weeks away. Unfortunately, I’m not getting my hopes up it’ll be something I’d upgrade to. Sony doesn’t appear to be the least interested in taking my money. ;^)
This is a breathless camera. Not only does it free the photographer from tripods, flash and lighting rigs, it also opens up the unlit spaces like never before. Finally true artistic freedom.
Sony sprang this up on us out of nowhere. Truly grateful to Sony. I’m switching.
So from reading around the web I see the price all over the place. Sony might have generated all these rumored prices to see how the market reacts.
Admin you can introduce a poll for the A7s price range to help sony a bit.
For me $1700 will be probably a buy. For $2000 the reviews will have to praise the camera. Anything above $2K, I will either invest in another system or wait few months for the price to drop where I can handle it.
We need a LF sony camera. Just a fixed 65mm will do like th RX1. 12 Megapixes and ISO up to 100000. I want to take pictures of a hockey match in pitch dark.
I still don’t like the ergonomics of the A7. To me this really is the biggest problem. I’d have bought one if not for the horrible grip. It’s to damn thin. I need a bit more substance and at least an interchangable grip if your not going to put a real decent sized one on it. Cameras shouldn’t be so fixed like this. No matter how small it gets I want an L shaped grip around the same dimensions of an A99.
Maybe Sony should’ve left the grippy bit of the body then had the add-on battery grip styled more like an old Nikon FM winder/motor-drive.
I’m waiting for the days when Sony will create an all purpose camera with a slot for ejectable sensors whenever upgrades come out.
This video footage looks amazing. If the quality is any indicator of it’s high ISO photography potential, then they need to put this into an Alpha SLT style body (with or without slt tech) and it will be the Sony camera I have been dreaming of!
Holly shit ISO 80000 looks amazing seriously! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td_YyG00cOI