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Sony A7-A7r, NEX-5T/R and NEX-6 firmware announced!!!!

It’s here! The new Sony firmware has been announced and I kindly ask you to check the most important of the new additions: The Image quality improvement of the A7-A7r cameras. Let’s see if it’s a “real” noticeable improvement! Here are the download links:

A7R
Mac – Sony US, Sony Germany, Sony UK, Sony France, Sony Spain, Sony Italy, Sony Holland, Sony Belgium, Sony Austria, Sony Switzerland, Sony Finland, Sony Sweden, Sony Norway, Sony Portugal, Sony Australia
Windows – Sony US, Sony Germany, Sony UK, Sony France, Sony Spain, Sony Italy, Sony Holland, Sony Belgium, Sony Austria, Sony Switzerland, Sony Finland, Sony Sweden, Sony Norway, Sony Portugal, Sony Australia

A7
Mac – Sony US, Sony Germany, Sony UK, Sony France, Sony Spain, Sony Italy, Sony Holland, Sony Belgium, Sony Austria, Sony Switzerland, Sony Finland, Sony Sweden, Sony Norway, Sony Portugal, Sony Australia
Windows – Sony US, Sony Germany, Sony UK, Sony France, Sony Spain, Sony Italy, Sony Holland, Sony Belgium, Sony Austria, Sony Switzerland, Sony Finland, Sony Sweden, Sony Norway, Sony Portugal, Sony Australia

NEX5R
Mac – Sony US, Sony Australia
Windows – Sony US, Sony Australia

NEX5T
Mac – Sony US, Sony Australia
Windows – Sony US, Sony Australia

NEX6
Mac – Sony US, Sony Australia
Windows – Sony US, Sony Australia

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Thanks Puggs for the links!

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  1. Spot the errors on the Sony site! Oh wait I mean spot the errors on the Sony Alpha Rumors site… Really Andrea, iOS?

      1. I’m not, honestly we pick on every mistake on the Sony site but mentioning mistakes on the site that does this is being a douche bag? Point is mistakes get made, making a big fuss about them is, well, kind of pointless.

    1. Copied and pasted the message I got. Sorry, dind’t see that the msg said “ios” instead of “mac”.

  2. I find it particularly interesting that they are saying that they will provide fast hybrid AF support to all lenses in the future on the 5R, 5T, 6 and A7…. So no longer need to update cameras to support new lenses, which is certainly an improvement, so well done Sony! I guess they changed the protocols for the way hybrid AF is detected in lenses, perhaps they were at some stage maybe trying to use as more of a point of difference. Anyway, nice to see three discontinued cameras getting this support all the way back to the first models supporting hybrid AF… Who says Fuji are the only ones supporting their customers (with their fixes for their crap betaware).

    1. For the last sentence, you suck.
      I don’t have a Fuji but I wish I had the money for one.
      I have a Nex 6, and it barely had 1 firmware (arguably 2) updates while it was in production.
      Compare the additions in the firmware option to the actual improvements Fuji bring, and try to be objective instead of a fanboy.

      1. Well I have had an X100 and an X-E1 and have ‘experienced’ the ‘Fuji awesomeness of Betaware and constant fixes’. Maybe you should be more objective and stop reading things on the internet written by fanboys about how great they are. Even after many many updates, neither of those cameras really pass as ‘good’ I’m afraid. Yes the newer ones are ‘probably’ better, but thus my comments on Betaware, the earlier cameras were exactly that. The only real ‘addition’ Fuji brought to those cameras was a poorly implemented focus peaking, just like Sony did way back on the original NEX-3 and NEX-5. So yes, Fuji and their updates are freakin’ lame… The only good they have done for anyone is Fuji and their reputation.

        1. Ok, you may be right about that, I don’t have hand-on experience.
          But even if you compare to Sony’s mostly lens support updates, Fuji did push out updates for very old models, like the X100.
          Compare that to my previous camera for example, the Nex F3.
          Anyway, the way it looks to me, neither maker is without flaws, but to me Fuji seems to be pushing more in the support dept.

          1. I agree they are, but in all honesty Sony’s products are far far more polished and ‘complete’ than Fuji’s have been in the past. That’s not to say that we wouldn’t ‘like’ sony to add new features or make thing more customisable etc, but most of what Fuji have done with updates is fix really fatal flaws with their products that just weren’t ready for the prime time. Saying that, my X100 is still one of my favourite all time cameras and still miss it, X-E1 though is completely ‘meh’. If you want Sony to learn from someone about product updates, they could learn a thing or two from Ricoh… They ALL could.

          2. Yes and I appreciate that, but as I say most of their fixes are just that, fixes. F3 was a repackaged C3/5N, there wasn’t a whole lot to add or fix by this time.

        2. Can’t agree with so call Beta for fuji, I had a first release XE1, all functions are working. I think sony need to learn a lot from Fuji, at least in term of lens system and commitment support to their user base.
          I’m sure they did that for their reputation, but why sony doesn’t care about their reputation?

          1. Well the AF is glacial and MF is horrible, combined with the disaster that is the EVF and in anything other than good light you simply cannot focus the thing. If it had decent MF I would forgive it, but it is worse than the AF. Don’t get me started about what’s wrong with the rest of the camera, but apart from some sexy looks and a nice control scheme the X-E1 is a junker, hell s/h they go for less than a decent NEX-6 which was cheaper and supposedly less desirable.

            So far as lenses, I can well and truly argue that Sony have Fuji beat. But it’s unlikely anyone who believes what Fuji have been doing to be ‘good’ would ever believe that to be possible.

  3. So no lens correction profiles, esp. for “old”er models like 5n, F3, etc.? I shoot RAW anyways but I still use correction for EVF/LV view. Or are the correction parameters supplied by the lens itself?

    I didn’t expect it anyways but too bad they didn’t fix any of the quirks with the 6.

  4. When you say, “The EU and US firmware update links are not available yet”, we cannot use the firmware from Australian site to update my a7 bought in USA?

      1. Luckily the camera battery works with DC 😉 The camera itself never comes in contact with 50 or 60hz and AC

        I uses the Australian update without problems

        1. Its not about that at all. When the video is at 60p in a 50 Hz country like Australia in AC lights it affects the video thats why the Australian models only does 50p.

          1. Not quite. That is the historical origin of the 25/50 fps standard, but that’s not why the Australian model doesn’t support 60p. That’s a marketing/region locking thing, not a technical requirement.

  5. What happened to the long awaited A77 firmware update? This is suppose to be Sony’s ‘top of the line’ and most expensive APS-C camera they have and yet they seem to be lacking to support there users I find… Very sad!

    I understand the A77II is on it’s way but top of the line camera’s are generally around for 3-6 years before getting replaced and should be supported for longer being a flagship product one would think?

    Please Sony don’t forget about your A77 users… It’s a very capable camera and allot of features/tweaks people have asked for are software/firmware related and not issues with the camera’s hardware…etc..

    1. I’d also love to see a new update, but somehow, especially with the rumours about the A77-II, i lost hope on a firmware update. If there will be updates, guess they are only for support of new lenses.

    1. RAW was never 10 bit. RAW is 14 bit on A7 and is compressed to write 7 bits per pixel within a group of 16 pixels and the further bits min and max values are stored for the whole group….

      Before this happens RAW 14 bit signal goes through gamma curve that reduces it to 11 bits….

      1. can you explain this in real terms i.e. how it effects quality….I’m a bit lost with this stuff but gather it is pretty relevant

        Thanks

    2. ?? All cameras shooting 24 odd MP create a 24 ish MB RAW file…that’s normal…I can’t see any issues that worry me having compared the file to their Canon and Nikon brethren…

  6. NEX5r notes: “… and compatible E mount lenses in the future …”
    Meh, I don’t want in the future, I want in the past. Been mailing with Tamron every couple of months for the past year about getting hybrid AF to their 18-200 lens, but they keep brushing me off with saying it is being tested in the Japanese labs. For over a year? Sure.
    To me the Sony 18-200LE is just a rebranded Tamron and the Sony lens supports it, so why not the Tarom one? Oh well, not that I expect miracles from getting hybrid AF, but now my only option would be to trade in the Tamron and get the Sony.
    First world problems …

    1. I have the Tamron 18-200 and the firmware updates adds hybrid AF for it!! (I have the 5T which is basically identical) This firmware adds hybrid support for all E mount lenses, it no longer needs a lens with a special firmware 🙂 as it’s now all done by the camera, happy days

        1. Why do russians keep insisting to write in russian on english forums.. .. Come here, translate.google.ru…. sigh.

          1. Sorry. A couple of remarks (a) this is not Russian but Bulgarian. (b) whaeva was translating to me “improves image quality” which is equally meaningless in Bulgarian.

            Again apologies for the weird postings

          2. That is not russian. Looks like bulgarian. Although, russians got an idea what they spoke 🙂

          3. I speak fluent Russian/Ukrainian (die Putler, die) and hardly got any clues what they were talking about. Sentence structure is different.

  7. No minimum shutter speed on auto-iso, no change on using timer with bracketing… 🙁
    Good point for the auto-focus speed update though. Need to see if it is noticeable in real usage.

      1. You have to be the worst troll ever. Sent from hell to gospel about Canon and bash Sony. why dont you just feck off and go back the the lavapit you came from. Why do you do it? Do you feel a certain satisfaction bashing Sony and write “Canon is best” everywhere you troll? My god, you must be like..14?

    1. I had this on my NEX-7. Just re-try the upgrade process. I guess errors happen occsionally.

    2. I used the Mac version and it “brick” my A7. I then use a Windows and use the windows version, and it successfully updated my A7 hence “unbrick” it. I didn’t try the Mac version on my A7R. I use the Windows version on A7R and its fine.

        1. Actually what he is talking about is often referred to as a “soft brick” since it was rendered unusable after the software was run, a “hard brick” would be a situation where he’d be unable to recover it at all.

      1. same here, it is the 8th time i am doing the update, and still not working.
        Sony has no skills in writing software. Can they not put the firmware on a card like everybody else?
        Even the apps install system is horrible.

    1. Yes they listen, but they don’t understand. This is why serious photogs use Canon or Nikon. I am no fan of either moloch, this is the simple truth.

    1. Sometimes Sony updates IQ but doesn’t say so in the firmware update. I had an A37 and kept the stock firmware as subsequent firmware updates only supported auto correction of a few lenses in JPEG mode which I didn’t care for.

      Finally one day in an act of boredom I updated the firmware and to my surprise high ISO IQ improved noticeably.

      Also be honest what was ailing the NEX6 that could be fixed with a firmware update ? It was already a good camera.

      1. Agreed that the NEX-6 is pretty good – I was hoping to get a bit of the mysterious picture improvements announced for the A7/r.

        1. Ha ha, well no harm in always expecting the best from your equipment. 🙂

          However since the 16 MP sensor in your NEX6 has been around for some time now Sony knows how to get the best out of it.

          The new 36 MP sensor in the A7r probably received a few slight tweaks to the IQ.

  8. Wow, you must be shooting 500mm f4 lenses at ISO 2500000 for 60 seconds? I think you need to look at your technique.

        1. battery grip can not necessarily, was not comfortable with sony a7r, already proven light leak problem and shutter vibration (tele lenses 100 up 200/300) Light leak repair and shutter vibration has been no concrete steps in terms of hardware repair sony, HALLO SONY, corrective action to Light leak and shutter vibration? really disappointing to buy a product is not perfect, the complaints from buyers, I finally decided not to use sony 7r, I just keep it in a dry box

          1. The battery grip is not comfortable?? But the shutter issue is tripod related??
            Most cameras light leak in extreme situations…
            Sounds like you are not open to a solution…Do you just like a good moan??…You should probably change brands…

    1. Translation – we tuned the jpeg engine for improved cat photos. Doubt they’ve touched raw…

  9. Disappointing – it seems that only FUJI delivers firmware to enhance their products as professional service.

    1. That might appear to be the case, until you realize that you are actually updating a camera that came with beta-ish firmware in the first place.

    2. Yes their firmware update does add newer features which is commendable but honestly as people have pointed out they sold they cameras with a TON of bugs and glitches.

      Most of the firmwares were just to fix bugs.

  10. This update is 1.02 and it says that it also includes – „Dual AF“: SAL24F20Z, SAL85F14Z, SAL135F18Z,
    SAL70300G, SAL70200G, SAL35F14G, SAL1635Z, SAL100M28, SAL50M28,
    SAL85F28, SAL300F28G, SAL70400G2, SAL50F14Z

    and automatice compansation for SAL100M28, SAL50M28, SAL85F28, SAL18200, SAL20F28, SAL28F28

    Strange I never saw the 1.01 version for ILCE-7.

    PS this is for A7.

    1. because the cameras were shipped with 1.01 firmware. In the update process this can be seen (or in the camera menu)

    2. Where are you looking?

      That looks very much like the A99 firmware update. The A7 doesn’t have Dual AF.

  11. WHAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW IS:

    1) This is a minor update to shut up the community.
    2) The next update if any, will be in the next year or so.
    3) Sony has been using this release strategy for some time now since the A99

  12. Did you try the upgrade? Maybe they did something to lessen the shutter vibration issue. As for the light leak, I am afraid that Sony and the rest of the camera companies are guilty of that problem. Though Sony is supposedly working on a hardware fix. Can you let us know what the firmware fixed on your A7 (or A7R)? I wasn’t quite sure which of the cameras you owned and thus have an issue with.

    1. Same for me on A7R, reduced from about 4 seconds to 1. AF in challenging low contrast against backlight seems to be improved too.

      1. 1. Stop cooking raw files against magenta cast (was ok with ver1.0)
        2. Stop applying noise reduction in raw files making noise less random and more blotched (was ok with ver1.0)
        3. Allow using remote control with bracketing
        4. Allow using focus zoom with native lenses the same way it is used with non-native lenses (don’t focus assist in when the zoom ring is touched, but do allow to show up the focus assist when the assigned button was pressed)

        I suggest A7R and A7 owners NOT TO UPDATE, because every time Sony made “firmware that is enhancing image quality” it was actually worse!

    1. If it left your camera in a state such that you could retry it, your camera was not bricked. The update may have failed, but the camera was not bricked. That word does not mean what you think it means.

      1. Well, I could not start the cam before the 4th try. But anyway, WTF Sony, are you not testing your updates before releasing them? It was also only a minor update. but at least the starting time is quicker.

  13. A7r: Startup is now 1 sec..Much faster. AF seems faster now as i tested it with the same lens on the NEX6 and it used to be slower now it’s faster!
    NEX6: my 2470Z and 55Z are both now supported byt he camera with OSS (2470) and PDAF. Previously wasn’t.. Overall, it’s an update that actually improved something..Let’s hope Sony keeps this up.

  14. Awesome! Definitely some improvements to AF and start up time but I’m still uncertain where the “image quality improvements” are….has anybody done any in-depth comparisons??

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  15. More PlayMemory support, yummy. No really, even M43 is a serious system compared to this. And they also have the shutter shock error. Go on crazy headless corporate monster!

    1. Thank you for your meaning full contribution.Its that clear you have first hand experience, NOT.
      Another day, another troll.

        1. I’ve never called my aging flickr account art. I don’t even consider myself an artist. Just someone who likes to take photos.

          http://mikee.vsco.co/ I take photographs for fun, I don’t sell prints so yes m43 and smartphones would work just fine for what I do. But I happen to be a camera enthusiast and love technology and am not the one going on websites for companies I don’t care for and bashing them. That is just a waste of time.

          As an early adopter of M43, as good as their camera body may be now, it’s still limited with a small sensor. So if I saw someone shooting a magazine spread with an m43 only system, I’d wonder about large scale prints.

    2. The comments below show 1) ignorance of basic English constructs 2) ignorance LOL.
      Why do you Bollox come here? Because kids like those make you feel superior. Same here LOL, I must be insecure. PlayMemories LOL Sony must be on drugs, worse than those M43 toy makers.

  16. I am in no hurry (No AF lenses to use/worry about). I will observe if there are improvements from the actual users to decide if I should update the FW.

    “Hey, the hump is gone after the update :)”

    comment is actually encouraging though. 🙂

  17. if the hump was gone it would be such a pleasure to have only the lcd,
    right? getting tiresome seeing this complaint about this ‘hump’ thing.
    who cares? just go out and use the friggin camera and stop looking at the stupid hump in pictures on the internet or from
    the lazyboy chair, or worrying about what others think about its looks and the hump will go away if you’re out busy actually
    taking shots. it’s goddam trivial.

  18. I don’t see any comment about the traduction, in fact, of the upgrade of th image quatity ? What is really improved ? High ISO ? Jpeg traitment ? Dynamic ? 14bit informations in raw files to improve LR / capture one or apperture experience ? What about the pixel peeking ? With my a7 I can’t use focus peaking with MF help …

        1. This is going to be great for the 8 people in the world who buy a full frame camera to shoot JPGs. (kidding, just kidding)

    1. Luck of the draw, I suppose. I goofed and updated my A7R with A7 firmware, and now it’s gone down in resolution.

      1. As if it cant get worse, now I tried to reverse the process and I updated it with my PC’s software – my A7R is now running Windows 7 Pro!

        Though it is pretty cool browsing the web on it. I’m typing using my A7R right now!

    2. That’s nothin’ ! I updated my A7 with Canon 5DmIII firmware, and now it has a mirrorbox and grey hair sprouting from it!!!

  19. I wish to see new firmware to sony nex fs100 .
    18-105 f4 demands ,
    70-200 f4 seems very hot cake .
    S-log ( the most important )

    But as we know Sony is not going to do that .

      1. Yes I know f4 , but other hands , this lens has OSS and it does not wight 1,5kg , just 800g . Any way S-log is the most important and I am ready to pay for it like canon c100 user can do with their new firmware .

    1. I once tried eating a 70-200 f4 but you need LOTS of syrup to make it go down smoothly.

      Not recommended. Stick to the actual hot cakes.

  20. What a pity Sony created so much hype with those cameras and then… LOL but they get enhanced PlayMemories support LOL

    1. I do not own them, but improved start up time, faster AF and superior JPEGs are nothing to scoff at.

    2. Was the amount of hype any different than any other camera introduction? If so I really didn’t notice it. Guess I don’t understand what your point is, are you talking about the camera or the update?

    3. Those cameras need way more than an update. They need a broader mount to
      design lenses more easily; they need artifact-free RAW – and I have
      seen multiple types of artifacts; they need a fix for the shutter shock
      error.
      Sony products need better quality overall, before they hit
      the market. This update brings a fix, which a proper product would not
      need, because it is already optimized.

      1. I’m sorry but does anyone on here actually believe this?? that the E mount is not “broad” enough to design lenses easily enough? Because it seems like ignorant blather… Is it terribly hard for Leica, Voigtlander and Zeiss to design high quality lenses for the M-Mount? I mean, CMIIW but the E mount seems a smidge “broader” than the M mount and I don’t really see anyone complaining about that lot of glass… I don’t have specs in front of me but I do have a Voigtlander VM Close Focus adapter on my A7R most of the day and the difference is minimal, and I would put my money on the M being narrower. So what say you NotSonyQC?

        1. The mount is too narrow given it has a very short flange distance. Longer flange and same width would be OK. You can easily picture this in your mind – provided average grey equipment.
          You could also learn to ask politely, since you are not exactly an expert.

      2. AND wikipedia confirms my suspicions….

        Sony E-Mount Outer Diameter: 46.1 mm

        Leica M-Mount Outer Diameter: 44.0 mm

        By the way, what would say if you just spent three times the amount you would shell out for an A7R and within the first year (or the first week even!) your sensor inexplicably cracked? Because many new owners of the $7k Leica M9 have had this exact issue (some even beyond their initial year of ownership thus rendering them SOL on warranty.)

        Let’s be honest here and play Chevy Chase/Richard Pryor word assocation:

        I say: Leica

        You say: “Quality”

        An effen inexplicably CRACKED sensor…

        Yeah, fix that with a firmware update funboy….

      1. It was originally supposed to be released before the the NEX/A7 updates, but clearly that didnt happen. I’m not sure. But it’s done and it would be downright foolish to withhold it. I’d say within the next few weeks.

    1. Not actual. There will not further SLT firmware updates for exist models.

      Whoever your source is, he is wrong.

      1. I am my source – I’m not getting this second hand!

        If you are in ‘the know’ that there wont be any more updates released, that’s really sad. What a waste of time that was.

  21. I have a brick7 now wtf

    the camera don’t turn on, the access lamp is red and thats it. Someone know how to hard reset it?

      1. retard ever heard of good editing? also where’s the changelog for sony nex-6 5r/t???????that link is a worthless piece of shit. think before you press a reply button troll.

  22. NEX and the PDAF for future lenses remark: even with lenses that do not support PDAF it is possible to enable the PDAF option in the menu. Was this always the case? In any case it is very hard to determine whether or not a lens that does support PDAF is really using it now. Which says something about the value of PDAF I guess if you cannot tell the difference …

    1. Perhaps the RX-1 is already performing at its peak and Sony can’t do anything to improve it via a firmware update. 🙂

    2. Why is always when a firmware update for some camera(s) are released, the users of all other cameras are moaning… I do not understand it…

  23. Can anyone here who has updated their camera can speak to the “image improvement” that Sony claims this Firmware update does? What exactly does it improve? JPEG quality? different RAW format? High ISO noise? anyone???

  24. Has Sony consigned the previous flagship NEX7 users to the scrap heap? Or are they simply suggesting serious camera buyers should change gear as quickly as underware? If Sony wants to be taken seriously then they must improve their support to equipment.

    1. You must understand that the NEX7 is a 2011 model and in the mirrorless world that is extremely old.. Sony had already released a firmware for the NEX7. These firmware updates are for newer models and the NEX7 is a 2011 model. I don’t believe Sony will ever release another firmware update for this model.

      1. Granted the NEX7 is a 2011 model, but due to circumstances beyond their control, they only shipped the units in any meaningful quantities from April/May 2012. Given that the NEX7 was still a current model up until very recently, it still seems that Sony would do well to provide active support for their flagship products. These cameras are not the simple dump or discard when the next shiny bauble arrives. They are a long term commitment when you consider the additional investment in the E-mount system.
        Don’t get me wrong, I’m not unhappy with the NEX7 but it would be nice to know Sony have not just enticed me into a system, grabbed my cash and set sail to do the same to the next lot of enthusiasts.

        1. Honestly most camera companies release firmware updates if a) There is still some IQ improvements possible b) If there is any issue that needs to be fixed and c)to add functionality.

          My guess is that there is little Sony can do to enhance the NEX7 that they didn’t already do with firmware 1.03.

          Most of these firmware releases is to add lens compatibility for the fast hybrid AF feature which the NEX7 lacks.

          Even the recently launched A3000 hasn’t got a firmware upgrade because it also lacks the fast hybrid AF feature.

    2. Just read what is new in e.g. the NEX-5R/T and NEX-6 updates: news on the the hybrid-AF – which is not present in a NEX-7 sensor.

  25. None of Sony’s cameras exist in the professional market (that market is for their many customers like Nikon and Canon). Therefore they won’t maintain firmware like one would expect in the professional market. Sony are a huge and ruthless company that does things purely by the numbers. People need to remember this when purchasing their consumer products (and also their professional products).

  26. When you want answer about NEX6 or A7

    A : say

    I thought I had it all figured out between the nex 6 and 7, but with the new Alpha 7 and 7R coming out early next year I have no idea anymore. I realize that since they are available yet, this is not an easy question, but was hoping that just going by the info out there someone might have an opinion?

    What I’m looking for is something decent to catch shots of siberian huskies, which run like the wind 🙂 I would also be taking kids pics and vacation pics too. I had it all narrowed down to the nex 6 over the 7. Now I’m wondering if maybe the new A7 will be a good choice?

    B : say

    What are your reasons for considering the Nex 6 or 7? What more do you think the 7 or 7R will give you?

    Generally, the dSLR cameras, like a Canon Rebel, will focus faster, if that is a major consideration. And picture quality will be similar to a NEX 7.

    There’s no doubt the new 7 and 7R are going to have great image quality. Important if you are making very large prints, but most system cameras today produce high quality images. And the selection of Sony lenses for the 7 is going to be limited for a while, and expensive. And telephoto lenses are not going to be small.

    More : http://webcamerawebcamera.com/detail.php?id_detail=109

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