Samyang launched that teaser image on their Facebook page. A couple of weeks ago I told you that Samyang is ready to launch their first autofocus lenses. And this is likely what athey will announce now! It will be exciting news for Sony too because Samyang is currently the only third party lenses offering APS-C and Full Frame lenses for the A and E-mount cameras (including FE lenses for the new A7-A7r series).
P.S.: Currently Samyang sells their lenses under different brands:
[shoplink 5759 ebay]Samyang[/shoplink]
[shoplink 5755 ebay]Walimex[/shoplink]
[shoplink 5756 ebay]Rokinon[/shoplink]
[shoplink 5757 ebay]Opteka[/shoplink]
[shoplink 5758 ebay]Falcon[/shoplink]
[shoplink 5760 ebay]Vivitar[/shoplink]
[shoplink 5761 ebay]Bower[/shoplink]
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I particularly like Samyang for not making AF but MF lenses… I’d be much more thrilled, if the announcement would bring the long-rumored 50mm F1.2 MF-lens. AF would most probably spoil that lens for me…
They said they cancelled the 50 1.2.
I hope they make the 85 1.4 AF for 400€
The main aspect to this launch would be the price. If the lenses are priced competitively, then it makes sense to go for these lenses.
Plus the auto-focus efficiency would be another factor to look into, as usual reverse engineered products end up with poor focusing results.
Not AF but smaller and E mount specific lenses would get my attention.
Im pretty sure they responded to someone asking about af lenses a fewbweeks agonon the facebook page. They said it wasnt coming.
I heard it was a 50mm f1.2 lens from SLR Lounge
http://www.slrlounge.com/samyang-announce-new-lens-friday-possibly-rumored-50mm-f1-2
From picture – it looks like 10mm f2.8: http://www.optyczne.pl/aparaty_image/9016_b_Samyang_10mm_side.jpg
They cancelled the 50 1.2.
Sony 35/2 FE Lens as big as the overpriced Sony 35/2.8 Zeiss please.
Autofocus, Canon, 35mm
I love the Samyang 14 mm f.2,8. But i would love it more if it came with a autofocus
The lens in their lineup where autofocus is least needed.
True! What I’d love to see, is a new lens to cover FF, that is UWA and with filter threads! Something between 15mm and 18mm with the performance of the 14mm would be a great landscape lens.
Really, if you can’t manually focus a 14mm lens you need a white cane.
IBIS was put on Sony cameras primarily to allow A mount users to purchase less expensive lenses.
Tamron and Sigma charge the same for Sony mount as for CanNikon and Sony lenses are not economical.
Samayang has only been making manual focus lenses.
This has effectively wiped out the IBIS advantages.
If Samayang makes high quality AF lenses without optical stabilization and maintains economical pricing this move will be particularly beneficial to A mount users.
“IBIS was put on Sony cameras primarily to allow A mount users to purchase less expensive lenses.”
Haha, oh wow. Way to fall for the Sony marketing hype. That’s simply not true. Sony lenses are usually priced equally or in most cases are moving expensive than their Canikon counterparts (which have IS).
IBIS on a-mount bodies, I believe, dates back to Minolta’s vision so I’m not sure Sony gets any credit for it. The irony here is Canikon went the lens OSS route. So what happens when Sony strikes it’s own way in mirrorless? NEX/axxx/ax bodies dump IBIS for lens OSS at a time when other companies like Olympus have smartened up and are putting high-quality IBIS in their bodies. Too funny.
There are all sorts of design choices which promise cheaper products and don’t deliver. Another prime example is mirrorless. It promised simpler, smaller designs that would cost less. Really?
Pricing of goods isn’t as simple as a set percentage mark-up over costs. It’s based on what a company feels the customer is willing to pay. Sony and other companies are just pocketing higher margins from simplified designs.
Reread my comment..that is exactly what I just said.
Heres my wishlist lens
90-300 f2.8-3.8 MACRO with high speed focus, focus limiter switch and removable tripod colar.
LOL
Hm, I wouldn’t expect too much. If I were Samyang I would start with AF lenses for mounts that are selling the most = Canon and Nikon. Or I would start where people don’t ge a good 35mm lens or only a very expensive one.
I’d definitely be interested, but I have reservations about their qc – some of the 24/1.4 samples seem pretty ropey.
Please have the 85mm f1.4 FE in the list T.T
Looking for a more tele portrait lens right now T.T
At a reasonable price of course ^_^
Hmm, I just bought that 85/1.4 Nikon mount for $220… let’s see if I’ll need to return it.
Add Bell + Howell to the list of Samyang lenses under different brands.
I think people are missing an important point, which applies to all third party AF lenses. Unless they have a recognised and unique lens identity code they won’t have full functionality (on A99) and can screw up other microadjust settings.
Perhaps users should bombard Sony with requests to allow better integration with other manufacturers, although they have always been dismal in that regard in the past!
The crazy thing is that they would likely be more successful in total (with greater sales) if they did co-operate. As it is, too many people see ther products as having compatibility issues (where are we going with the new flash shoe…???)
My Tamron 28-75 F2.8 works without issue on my A99, Tamron has a lot of experience reverse engineering lens integration. This will be a challenge for Samyang but one it must overcome if it plans on selling autofocus lenses. I’ve been using the Samyang 85mm 1.4 manual focus lens for several weeks and really like the image quality, if Samyang can build an autofocus version for a reasonable price I would be very interested. BTW the Tamron 28-75 F2.8 works fine using the micro focusing adjustment function, and only required a +1 adjustment. My Minolta Beer Can required a +3.
That is not very surprising as Tamron also made their lens for Sony as the 28-75/2.8 SAM lens. No need for Tamron doing reverse engineering as Sigma does.
Total side note – I have the tamron 28-75 as well, I had a chance to use some SAM/SSM glass recently, the difference is incredible. The AF is stupidly fast compared to that lens. Even the new FE lens for the A7, the AF was faster than my A77 is currently (with the tamron).
The Tamron will work, as will all lenses made for the A mount. However, if they have used the identity code for a Sony 24-70 (for example), when you set the AF microadjust for the Tamron it will alter the 24-70 to the same degree, even if it doesn’t need it.
I’m not saying there will be such conflicts, but that can happen as Sony will not allow other manufacturers access to use that data.
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It’s pretty easy to read the camera ID code – and I think some of the developers have accumulated a database of identifiers. So you would think that a reasonably smart engineer will check the listings for Sony lenses. Although I did run into a Sigma (28-105) that had the same Identifier as an old Minolta lens (28-75, I think).
Not necessarily. I doubt these new lenses will be for E/FE mount but one big advantage is that the basic E-mount spec is open. The limitation is that currently OSPDAF is limited to a subset of Sony only lenses. However the AF is *NOT* reverse engineered on the Tamron and Sigma E-mount lenses. The only problem is that E-mount is still a very small user base compared to Nikon and Canon. [mFT is also some what open though there are licensing/membership fees]
I know it would be an entirely new optical formula for them, but I hope they release something FF UWA with a filter thread. Between 15mm and 18mm would be great and keep the optical performance on par with a good copy of the 14/2.8 Currently the inability to use filters is the only thing stopping me from getting the 14/2.8
There is a filter adapter for the 14mm. It’s massive, but available and not very expensive.
where and what type of filters?
Well Samyang is selling under these brands PLUS LEICA, Leica lens production is under Samyang facility.
Samyang
Walimex
Rokinon
Opteka
Falcon
Vivitar
Bower
Samyang has nothing to do with Leica!
Yes they do, read the press release, Many Leica lenses are manufactured by Samyang. That’s why it was overpriced in MHO.
12mm f/2 for mirrorless?
http://photorumors.com/2013/09/01/clarification-on-the-upcoming-samyang-12mm-f2-mirrorless-lens/
This would be AMAZING if the size is small enough.
I wouldn’t be expecting any AF versions to come in E-Mount, sorry, unless they were an entirely new type of lens design. Ok they ‘could’ do E-Mount but I wouldn’t expect them to work any faster than EF mount lenses on an adapter.
Picture looks almost certainly like an AF version of the 14mm.
Well, that’s it, A-mount is 100% dead.
Hahaha.
And then next month when the A mount cameras have more rumors, we’ll say E-mount is 100% dead!
A-mount is dead, e-mount is dead. Blah blah blah. What about the BS mount?
A-mount is dead, E-mount is dead, FE-mount is dead, F-mount is dead, K-mount is dead, the 1-mount is dead, 4/3-mount is dead….even T-mount is dead.
But, 5leggedinsect, one mount remains for you to use – the FU-mount.
Get a life.
And by FE, I meant EF-mount. Oops.
AGAIN???
The Sony A-mount must have 9 lives. It keeps dying and coming back like a zombie apocalypse.
Silly question but… Rokinon sounding similar to Rokkor is simply coincidence? I assume there’s no connection/shared history?
No history, no connection
Thanks
Fact: Sony will not cooperate or collaborate on any focus related systems. Samyang will be completely on their own to reverse-engineer the focus system. Considering the imminent changes with the A-mount system, I wish them luck.
-Shadow
Contrary to popular belief, and possibly logic, even Tamron has to reverse engineer their Tamron branded A-mount lenses even when they produce virtually the same lens as Sony branded. They are not authorized to use the Sony auto-focus algorithms in Tamron branded lenses because they are not authorized to use the same physical drive mechanism (USD vs SSM, and Screw Drive vs SAM, etc).
Tamron gets no love from Sony, even though Sony owns >11% of Tamron.
-Shadow
FACT : You are correct w.r.t to Sony Alpha mount.
FACT : You are incorrect w.r.t. to Sony E mount.
FACT : Your facts are incorrect
Sony has given their mount specifications to allow 3rd party lens designers to make AF lenses.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony-E-Mount-NEX-Specifications-Go-Open-Source-183089.shtml
i wish samyang or sony could make a fast f2.8 lens 42mm (for its approximate human eye field of view). Until then, i will hold my horses buying a sony a7 due to a lack of fast prime lens. Or else, Sony could come out with a Rx2 with 42mm f1.8 lens.