The official Sony FE lens roadmap.
Well, a trusted source told me that Sony is really pushing the FE lens development and we will soon get a new announcement. While I still have no SR5 ranked rumor to give you about the possible lens specs I got some tidbits from an anonymous source: He said a total of 14 FE lenses will be available by end 2014. This includes the manual focusing Zeiss lenses that will be announced at Photokina. In short these could be all FE lenses we could have by end 2014 (ordered by focal length):
wide angle Zeiss zoom (to be announced soon in Spring)
24-70mm FE Zeiss (Available now at [shopcountry 24939])
28-70mm FE Sony (Available now at [shopcountry 24940])
28-135mm f/4.0 Powerzoom lens.
35mm FE Zeiss (Available now at [shopcountry 24941])
55mm FE Zeiss (Available now at [shopcountry 24942])
70-200mm FE Sony (Available now at [shopcountry 24943])
fast prime FE Zeiss (portrait lens? to be announced soon in Spring)
macro Sony prime lens (to be announced before Photokina)
+ five manual focusing Zeiss primes. High Quality, Pricey and compact (not all of them).
Note that Zeiss itself already confirmed they will make such manual focusing lenses for the FE system.A nd they will be announced at Photokina! They said they will launch five such lenses but it’s possible one of them may be announced later in 2015.
Anyway, if by end of 2014 we will really have these lenses I will be happy. All I am concerned now is….the price of such lenses. Have mercy on us Sony and Zeiss!
For reference only: These are the Zeiss manual focusing lenses for the “Full Frame” ZM camera (some of them would be nice to have for the FE system!):
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Still a little irritated that the 28-135 is powerzoom. If it was mechanical it would have been perfect for me…
It isn’t your standard power zoom, it is more like an ENG lens… and it’s freakin’ massive!
Yeah, like MdB said, it’s gonna be massive, even though it’s only a f4 constant it appears to be the size of a 70-200 lens
Now that they have the very video-oriented A7s, it’s only fair/reasonable that they also offer a standard/travel video lens like the 28-135. I think such a lens is not un-expected.
You have not seen the photos of it have you… travel video lens size it is not.
As stated, it’s like a cine or eng lens, there are aperture, focus and zoom rings – you will be able to go full manual. It’s also huge and will probably be the most expensive e-mount lens by quite a bit. If its sharp across the range and under $2500 this will be my new video workhorse.
Powerzoom pissed me off. Not much pisses me off, but that did. I hope, for selfish reasons, they sell zero of them and never divert resources to that again (until they have a complete and quality photographic line)
The powerzoom is clearly a video-orientated lens, so why you feel the need to throw your rattle out of the pram over something clearly not designed for still photography beats me. Bear in mind that, besides the A7s, Sony have some dedicated video cameras that use E-Mount, and it seems almost certain that there will be more. Are you seriously suggesting that Sony ignores the video market? A company has to invest where it sees a return, and I assume sees this lens as a key priority.
Very selfish reasons. They clearly have scant lens design and development resources – and if they get on one of those “ooooo, shiny things” kicks on making powerzoom video lenses, that means fewer lenses for photographers.
Or does it…
If its sharp across the ange, I’m buying one.
If it pleases the professional motion guys then maybe they’ll also get Sony to stop using AVCHD as their low-end Codec, that sounds like a trade we stills guys (read: occasional video guys) may benefit from too.
How is this news? Wow super special secret sources can look at a road map and make guesstimates? Amazing! Oh except they are short at least one lens…
Why not a 14-24/12-24 f.2,8 or better
Because a 2.8 ff UWA zoom is huge. Look at the Nikon 14-24 f2.8. It’s an extreme design and it won’t ballance well on a small body like the A7.
That means that you can forget a telephotolens on A7 if you are thinking of well balanced equipment
As I see it, balance and size will have to go out the window if they’re seriously thinking about killing off the a-mount.
They won’t kill the A mount in the near future. Not until they finish the FE lenses roadmap. My guess is that the new A77 and a future replacement for the A99 will be the last SLT pro/prosumer bodies.
Basically all the zooms will be f4, at least until they finish the roadmap. After that, who knows? Maybe a new bigger body with a larger mp sensor count and faster zoom lenses.
Looking forward to the UWA-zoom, hopefully it’s good and not too expensive. Since it’s Zeiss-branded I guess the “not too expensive”-part might be difficult to attain. With an UWA-lens and a portrait lens, I’m pretty much set with what I’ll need.
the UWA zoom will be 16-35mm f/4…
my guess would be similar to the 24-70mm FE price…..around $1100
I wouldn’t mind that price if the lens has good sharpness across the focal length and acceptable sharpness at the corners….wishful thinking here
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Same for me; the portrait lens and the wide zoom are what I’m waiting for and hopefully fairly soon.
(and f4 suites me fine for the wide angle, assuming they keep it compact for landscape use, and let it take filters)
I am REALLY curious to see what MF Zeiss lenses come out.
RALLY curious.
I only wish for a 35mm as good as the RX1 and as fast, at least.
I hear that they are basically FE mount versions of the ZF lenses…
From where do you hear this?
Do you mean to say that they are only changing the housing of the ZF lenses?
Or do you mean to say that the same line up on the ZF (focal length and aperture) will be the same as the FE line up?
I think the latter is relatively assumed already since even the ZM line up has a lot of overlapping.
I doubt Zeiss would do a Samyang…just make a difference housing so it fits natively…
Forget ZF, it’s XXI century now! I would expect something in line with modern Otuses, compromised for size, vignetting and perhaps price.
someone tell sony that we need new A-mount lenses, not E-mount. enough is enough,.
Let me tell you,
A-mount is dead.
Um right cos e-mount so has all the bases covered…
BUT E-MOUNT GOT SWAG, MAN
A-mount died in 2006 with Minolta’s system. You’re only a few years late…
Shhhhhhh! Don’t tell my clients.
What lenses does A-mount need?
What lenses does FE mount not need?
Wake up, Cori! Stop living in your dream world! A-mount is dead! I know it sounds harsh, but it’s true… Don’t cry, Cori, don’t cry…
What a stupid statement. There are 20 full frame A-mount lenses from fisheye to 500mm available covering every focal length in between. FE has just 5 lenses which cover 24mm to 200mm. Wake up and stop spewing nonsense.
What is A-mount? I think you’re thinking of Minolta’s old failed system.
Enough is enough? I’m still waiting for a single FE e-mount lens worth owning.
Sony E 70-300 ?
I want one too! The 70-200 f4 isn’t for me, I prefer longer reach in a lighter package.
The roadmap looks good but I hope Sony will not stumble again and offer mediocre lenses like the 24-70 f4 oss…The uwa zoom might be a candidate…
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I’m really looking forward to some *small*, fast lenses. I’m OK with giving up AF in order to achieve that, but I just hope Zeiss makes them small enough (ala Leica).
Samyang might deliver those. Zeiss- not much of a hope. They are into making huge lenses.
Small lenses- Leica still are the best bet.
But wide angles below 28mm Leica can still have edge and corner issues like smudge and colour casts so they are still not “the” solution on that camp.
On the 28mm+ focal lengths Zeiss, Leica and Voigtlander offer great choice among them and not chiefly one superior to the others.
Yes, vastly superior to the others. One has to try it and experience it to know it. 🙂
small fast lenses = not D. to make a lens digital (until curved sensor) You have to collimate the light. To collimate the light requires a tele-centric design. Usually this requires the lens to be much longer then a lens designed for film. So you either have to go with the extreme microlens curve of leica sensors (expensive) a7r is sort of like this but not fully, Make tele-centric lenses, or accept edge of frame issues.
I thought Sony planned to have 10 lenses (plus the 5 Zeiss) by the end of 2014. 5 new lenses per year. This means they now plan on 9 by the end of 2014.
No, the ‘source’ doesn’t know anything. Still 5 new lenses this year on top of the 5 already released. The Zeiss MF lenses are their own business, but if they do produce 5 that will be 20-odd lenses by the end of the year (Samyang make FE lenses too). Still 10 Sony native AF lenses though.
Possibly 6 as I have some doubt that the video lens was on the roadmap posted.
It’s a BS rumor that is based on fantasy, not reality.
Definitely curious about the UWA zoom, but I fear it may be too pricey 😐
Not too impressed….
It will be interesting too see if Sony can develop a real (24mm or less) wide angle lens. Experience shows that WA lenses from 3rd party (Leica, Zeiss) do not perform well in corners. It remains to be seen if such short flange to FF sensor distance allows for HQ other than in center. I have my doubts – but hope I am wrong.
Any new on OSS? I’m torn between an a7 and an a77ii… If there’s going to be a 50/1.8 or 1.4 oss and a 90/100mm oss macro then I’d seriously consider changing mount.
Wow. Yet another news which is not news at all. Great work! And by the way, there is no such thing as a ZM “Full Frame” camera. ZM stands for Zeiss M-mount (Leica), as ZA stands for Zeiss A-Mount, and not some imaginary ZA “Full Frame”.
No, there is a ZM full frame camera. It’s an M mount rangefinder called the “Zeiss Ikon,” which Cosina produced until relatively recently. http://www.kenrockwell.com/zeiss/ikon.htm
This is a Zeiss Ikon camera (with Leica M mount), not a “ZM camera”.
ZM stands for Zeiss M mount, but it is not proper to Leica, it was amount made in cooperation with Leica, Zeiss, and Voigtlaender. At beginning Leica used the 39mm screw mount prior to step to Voigtlaender’s M-mount found on the Bessa to replace the 39mm mount. All German rangefinders, and also some Canon, Nikon, and few Japanese, and Russian cameras finally adopted M-mount for their rangefinders. I would love to see Sony doing a Manual focusing only camera with no video to challenge rangefinders, even in M-mount would not disturb me if they made lenses for it.
“ZA” is a designation used for Zeiss-branded lenses marketed by Sony. “ZA” therefore can be understood to stand for “Zeiss for (Sony) Alpha”, whether that’s Alpha A-Mount or Alpha E-mount.
From 5 to 14 is simply not going to happen. They can announce things all they want, that doesn’t make them available. In 2014 we will be very lucky to see 7 or 8 lenses shipping.
“This includes the manual focusing Zeiss”
that means 4 new lenses from Sony.
The manual focus Zeiss are not due out until 2015. Similarly, Sony will not ship 4 additional FE lenses in 2014. Like I said this is just a pipe dream with zero basis in reality. Just because this is what somebody wishes for, does not make it a rumor, it makes it a wish.
What ever 🙂
All I need is 135 2 & 85 1.8, nothing more.
Why Sony does not present such a map for the cameras – still do not know when (if at all) will have some A9 and what the successor to the A99?
To produce a roadmap you need a plan in the first place. Sony merely produce cameras to see what sticks.
We are now expecting that rumored compact MF camera. 🙂
The A7S took most of us completely by surprise, so as far as Sony are concerned absolutely anything could be announced at absolutely any time at the moment. Just make yourself comfortable, buckle your seat belt and enjoy the ride!
Yes because ALL the other manufacturers provide a road map of their upcoming cameras 😛
Why would they develop a successor of a failed camera in a failed mount?
User “E-mount” stop trolling.. it’s annoying 😛
Is it trolling if it’s true? 😉
Don’t make a fool out of yourself, you don’t amuse anybody here and are just showing how you lack any knowledge of what you’re talking about!
its simple, if they did a roadmap for cameras, customers would skip several cameras, for example if they had announced an a7000 several people would have skipped the a6000.
Is there any information on whether the high-end Zeiss glass will have aperture rings? Like the ZF.2 mounts. Please, will they do something for those who actually like full manual.
http://preferredaperture.com/
So year of the A-mount actually meant year of the Alpha mount, leaving A-mount to continue to decline. Sony really love their new FE toys, I wonder what new system they will move onto next year…
What is A-mount?
Wasn’t that Minolta’s mount? Sony uses E-mount.
LOL
What ever happened to the patent that Tamron supposedly filed for a 300 2.8 e-mount? And how about the rumour of a 70-400 e-mount version? The e-mount system could sure use some fast teles and/or longer range.
They probably didnt want to take the risk.
SR5 New Upcoming Sony Full Frame lenses:
Sony 24mm f/2.4 OSS FE
Sony 35mm f/2 OSS FE
Sony 50mm f/2 OSS FE
Sony 85mm f/2 OSS FE
Sony 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 FE
Sony 24-70mm f/2.8 OSS FE
Sony 70-200mm f/2.8 OSS FE
Sony 24-50mm f/4-6.3 OSS PZ FE Pancake
I will bet a LOT of money that there will be no 70-200mm f2.8 OR 24-70mm f2.8 lenses. 🙂
24-120mm seems legit and necessary so even an 85mm f2.
why not? I can see the 70-210 f2.8 being a beast on a7 but a 24-70 seems feasible if unlikely.
Well for one Sony seems to be making a clear indication that the E mount will never get fast lenses. So zooms will be max f4 and primes max f1.8.
They already launched a 24-70mm f4 and 70-200mm f4 zooms which are both very premium lenses so chances of f2.8 versions are extremely remote.
the 24-70 f4 zeiss seems to not be such an amazingly premium lens based on reviews of it. I get what you mean though.
f2, is that the best they can do? Even a 85$ cine lens in C-mount has 1.6 today and a 13 blade iris.I bought one in HD C-mount, 35/1.6 that really rocks on a NEX7, for 75$ on e-bay. And guess what, it is is sharp to 99% of the surface, a tiny bit of blur can be seen in the corners at full open aperture.
here an idea about what it does on the NEX-7. CCTV HD lens 35mm 1.6, bought on e-bay for 75$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-F1-6-HD-Movie-Lens-C-to-Sony-NEX-3-5-6-7-E-mount-Adapter-Lens-Hood-/171287910923?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item27e18e1a0b
that is the link, and the adapter is included in the price. Take it out of the box, and put it on your camera. No need to tell you how much I love to play with that fancy thing.
Sharp across the frame? Really? The $30 ones aren’t. Care for another example?
i agree, most 30$ ones are crappy, I was just surprised about this one since it is announced as HD lens. It is not the first I bought an that ended in the trash, but for 80$, agree, it is worth to give it a trial. I permanently buy old lenses from the MF film past for nuts, just to give it a trial and some do well, amazingly well. I manual focus only, so for me it doesn’t matters. Some give me that old film camera looks too, and some give me toy camera effects. Photography is also a field of action where some like to play, we never stop being children anyway.
Yeah… but what about an example where critical sharpness in the corners matter? You saying that it is one thing unfortunately doesn’t matter much (sorry). 🙂
An 85mm @ f/2 is perfect for people & portraits.
Sony 24-70 f/2.8 – not going to happen. Faster lenses are reserved to A-Mount. If Sony ever released this lens, that would mean that A-Mount is over.
When there is an UWA zoom for FE and it has decent corners, color me happy! Ultimate landscape rig.
I’m praying for that….been wanting a compact FE uwa zoom since the a7/r release!
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Is the Large aperture Zeiss prime and UW zoom Zeiss f4 — going to be released as — AF or MF ????
If its Sony Zeiss then its AF but if its Contax Zeiss then its MF.
If you are referring to the road map then its Sony Zeiss so AF. 🙂
Ok thanks. I’m expecting that large aperture prime to be a 80-85mm f1.2 or f1.4, with OSS. of course.
It won’t be 1.2 for sure. They’re going for “compact” lenses. I’d rather have a 1.8 or 2, with OSS, to keep it small. You can always use Amount 85 1.4 if you want to go big anyways-.
How do you know for sure? People like to dream. Let them.
I will bet money it will be an f2 lens. Sony seems to be making it clear that they won’t be making fast lenses for NEX. So f1.8 is max for primes and f4 for zooms.
A well corrected Zeiss 85 f/.8 AF would be perfect, especially if it had the look of the Zeiss 55 f/1.8 AF.
Fuck you Sony and Zeiss! Place that overpriced lenses to your ass! Give us at least good quality lenses as you did for crop ned system before FE introduction with reasonable price and OSS. And don’t forget about Crop NEX lenses too!
Why all the slow lenses? These lenses are SLOOOOOW. 70-200mm f4? That’s called a beer can at 1/15th the cost. We already have better options in a-mount- no comparison. Now we even have the amazing Sigma 50mm 1.4 ART. Wake me up when the FE hype is over.
I can’t understand why some say “a mount is dead”… just
because sony does not release a “new” camera every 6 months? For
example: a900 was available since Oct. 2009. a99 was available since end
of 2012. That’s three years. You can guess when a “a99 II” will be available…Same
thing with a37/a58… a year in between. But… but cameras were a major upgrade to
their predecessors. The a99 beaten nearly every other available DSLR at this
time and still does so. So, to me it
seems as if sony plays with the e-mount and then applies all good things to a
major a-mount upgrade.
That’s one side… the other side is using a e-mount camera with a 70-200/2.8
SSM G with adaptor on a “alpha-NEX”… really a well balanced system with a very
small camera housing without grip…. With my old a850 – no problem… and UWA
lenses? Or fish-eye? Or macro (1:1)? Or simply something beyond 200mm?
If the e-mount is the mount for the future… tell me why nearly no native
AF e-mount lenses from third companies are available; and no AF FE lenses from
major third party company…?
And yes… I can’t tell anyone what the future plans of sony are… maybe we
will lose the a-mount some days. But I’m pretty convinced that wouldn’t happen
that or the next decade. And if it’s gonna happen… Hello Canon/Nikon, here I am
after 20 (now; 35 then…) years of a-mount!
That’s all… 😉
Sony have been in the dSLR game since 1985, yet their only bodies are the A58, A77 and A99 (the A65 will be dropped soon) with a selection of ageing lens designs that a Minolta badge wouldn’t look out of place on. They have never really been committed to dSLR and it shows when compared to CaNikon.
I reckon that the reason third-party lens manufacturers aren’t pumping out a full range of E-mount is that, like us A-mount users, they have no faith in Sony sticking to a new system, they have bee burnt before with A-mount lenses and flashes.
Had Sony demonstrated faith in its own A-mount system, then third-party manufacturers AND retailers would be supporting Sony more.
Sony are only committing to imaging now because they have nowhere else to get revenues from. It isn’t a visionary act, it is an act of desperation.
This is ALSO why 3rd party are slow to adopt to FE and E mount lenses.
They know Sony is impulsive, and there’s absolutely nothing saying they wont (and past history saying they will) drop E-mount in a year or two and try something else.
There’s no stability, no reliability, hense no support. No one is going to invest in a bubble.
Sony is absolutely screwing themselves.
Sony have “been in the dSLR game” since 2006.
They made many cameras that slightly resembled a dslr before they bought the camera division of Minolta in 2006
Exactly! Everything that is done on E-mount could be done better on A-mount!
Except for adaptation of legacy lenses that is. For many people, that’s a huge bonus not available to A-mount.
And for many people, tiny body together with almost universally required use of adapters is a huge minus.
No way in hell i’m going to move to a smaller camera than my A65, when A65 is about the bottom of what I consider comfortable. I used to have A55 and that was just too small. Even A7{x} variants are thinner, with the smaller grip.
It’s not profitable to Sony if people use old lenses.
They need to sell new lenses to make money.
I think you’re confused – A-mount was Minolta’s mount. E-mount is Sony’s mount.
We probably haven’t seen any AF FE mount lenses from third parties because there are currently only two cameras which use it and they don’t yet have market saturation. Give it time.
http://photorumors.com/2014/01/27/updated-sony-fe-lens-roadmap/
14 lenses, and one fast one only, the legendary 50/1.5. I do not know what camera companies find so attracting to the dust catching format of 50mm. A fast 24 mm, 28 mm, 35mm, with 1.4 aperture makes sense, and in longer a 85mm, 105mm, but please, Sony, Sigma, and all others, delivers us from this eternal 50mm nonsense.
Really? You really want companies to stop making 50mm lenses? If you can’t understand the worth of a standard lens, it’s only an indication of your inability to compose an interesting photo.
Professional photojournalist for over 30 years, I’ve never used a 50mm except when I needed a macro. It’s personal preference, I don’t find the focal length pleasing, has nothing to do ability to compose a photo.
No self respecting pro photojournalist would use Minolta/Sony gear.
I’m calling BS on this.
The Sony RX1 is the best lil camera around. I really don’t care if I look like a pro-photojournalist or not, that ego left a long time ago, it’s all about getting the image. Sometimes you don’t want to carry a Domke bag full of gear around and go incognito (or I could go on about all my former co-workers over the years with sore backs from carrying around heavy gear. A reason to be interested in Sony.) If there were more lenses available for Sony’s full-frame cameras I’d even consider switching over completely, they’re thinking outside the box with features Canon and Nikon don’t have. Most pros aren’t gear heads but we do have to keep up a lil with what’s out there.
I never said we couldn’t have our preferences. My statement was aimed at Shamael’s “50mm [is] nonsense” claim.
+1
If this is true than I will be one happy camper! 🙂 ….except for my wallet…which will be empty and sad lol
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It might sound harsh, but there’s nothing new in this news.
I’m actually waiting eagerly for the specs of the FE lenses to be released this year, since this might affect whether I consider some not-so-optimal third party lenses (e.g. Sigma 105mm f/2.8 macro, if the incoming macro is too short, as Sony did with the stupid SEL30M35) and just get them now, or wait.
Also, the UWA zoom specs would be very welcome. I’m using SEL1018 as a stop-gap measure, but I would really like to know if the new zoom is going to be 12-24mm, 15-35mm or something else, as it will affect my buying choices for other lenses.
where is thge A-mount road map?
What’s A-mount?
Message for Sony: A-mount is the mount, what most loyal customers shoot. Customers, who have spent between 1000 – 15 000 € to A-mount system.
Message from Sony: “Oh, if I understand correctly, you want more E-mount? Ok!”
This sounds a lot like when Olympus switched from Four-Thirds to Micro-Four-Thirds. Mirrorless is the future for Sony in order to compete with Nikon and Canon, but they will never announce the death of A-mount. They’ll just keep it in the corner and not talk about it…
There is no real comparison, 4/3rds always had lackluster sales and Olympus was down in the dumps financially. Sony’s camera division is still in the black so they can afford to support two systems.
Isn’t the A-mount lineup pretty well fleshed out? It seems to me that A-mount isn’t really in need of a lot of new lenses. You may want them, but most of you don’t need them. The same cannot be said for FE.
It is fleshed out with AMAZING cameras and INFERIOR lenses.
We have the range covered, but it’s covered with garbage lenses.
The ONLY good lenses in the current A-mount lineup are as follows:
Sony 135 Z
Sony 24-70 Z
Sony 70-400 G
Sony 50 Z
Sony 85 Z
The telephoto primes are below standard
The 70-200 G and GII are below standard
The macro lenses are severely lacking
The wide angle primes downright suck
The teleconverters suck
So…yeah.
And dont say we have ‘third party options’. Any system that relies on 3rd party lenses to be up to par is quite telling of it’s support and future (or lack there of). Third party dont count.
+1
You forgot plenty of gems like the 50mm f1.8, 35mm f1.8, 85mm f2.8. I even love the Minolta 35mm f1.4. Sure it doesn’t measure well but I love the character of that lens.
Even the 16-105mm is a superb lens. One of the few really useable superzooms starting at 16mm. The other one- Tokina 16.5-135mm is a crappy lens.
Gems are not made out of cheap plastic….
Ha ha, well to each their own. I can buy 10 plastic lenses that will take photos practically indistinguishable to the expensive lenses.
Then you should also add the 500mm f4 and 300mm f2.8 lenses while you are at it.
I was referring to the nice lenses on Sony which are plenty. 🙂
Dabbledabble, all the lenses you mentioned need an update too with SSM and WR
I’m pretty sure the 50 Z, 24-70 Z and 70-400 G all have updated SSM.
I wouldn’t want lenses rush to market years ahead of schedule. They planned to have 15 by 2016 I can see slipping a couple from 2015 to Q4 2014.. anything more than that would be asking for trouble. Good products take planning and testing.. skip that and you get problems like oil spitting shutters and lenses with QA variations.. SO no buying it. Assume some A-mounts being confused as Sony has NO lens announcements yet.
Hope to hear about A-mount.
1986 called, they want their nostalgia back.
The sanatorium called. The are still looking for you !!! 😛
People always make the analogy that A-mount is on life support. Wrong!
A-mount was sick from 1995-2006
A-mount was put on life support in 2006
Sony never pulled the plug on the machine, they just stopped going in the room and checking on the patient!
A-mount is GOING to perish, but Sony is not going to announce it. Sony is just ignoring a patient who’s terminally ill, and focusing on others that can be saved.
Agree! It might still be on life support, but Sony isnt monitoring it anymore. They’ve abandoned it.
As a former A-mount advocate, I must agree. For a company that never seems to release lens roadmaps to be releasing an E-mount map, calling it “Alpha Mount” and “Full Frame Future” and COMPLETELY ignoring A-mount for over a year now…it’s quite clear to me that they’re DONE with A-mount. Done.
Tell you want I’m going to do. I’m going to take my A900 and Z 24-70 and take them to work. See, I work at a sheet metal forming plant, and we have access to 275 and 700 ton presses. I’m going to place my camera and lens in the 700 ton press, and slowly compact it into a flat disk about 3 feet in diameter. Then I’m going to have all my friends who also own A-mount gear sign it with a sharpie, and I’m going to mail the camera ‘disk’ to Sony’s headquarters as a token of our appreciation.
Will update with photos during the process.
Would love to see this.
Will hurt at the same time.
Sweet, I’ll send u another lens to smoosh. Let me know your info.
Waste of a perfectly lovely A900.
Funny, I use my A900 on almost all my paid shoots and it still compares favorably to my A7 at low-mid ISO. The A-mount lens offerings are plentiful and of high quality so I’m to busy using what I have to agonize over what is next.
Start playing taps now….
Good god…
Am I the only one who thought he was joking…???
SRSLY?!?
No, it’s photoshop.
Dat is FAKE. Nice try.
LOL Yeah, fake.
Just had to get a few of you going! Real story is my company wont let me use the press to destroy a camera for liability reasons…dang it.
I was going to ask for a video as well please
Yeah, the writing is definitely on the wall. I think they were sending a message with the pricing of their Gen 2 release of the 70-200mm f/2.8 G, too – they priced it so high that no one would buy it and they wouldn’t have to produce many of them. I mean, c’mon – $3000? $1000 price hike over the previous version? Go to B&H and you won’t find a single review on the lens because nobody’s buying it.
Yep. Sony’s almost out of gas on the a-mount. Losing interest in the e-mount APS-C. How long will the flirtation with FEs last? Certainly not long enough to complete a system. Sony has yet to complete one. They got closest with the a-mount lenses and much of that is leftover bits from Minolta.
I’ll keep hoping for Sony to want to take my money for a bit longer. For the rest of the year to be sure. If not, I’ll eventually move over to another maker. I get why many SAR users like e-mounts but they simply aren’t for me and, frankly, I don’t see them ever getting broad system support except through adapter compromises.
I would love to see a Distagon T* 2,8/15 ZFE.
I would love to see a Distagon T* 2,8/300 ZFE.
Dont you mean Sonnar or Tessar? A Distagon 300mm? Huh?
I don’t read SAR on a regular basis! Where is the news/rumors in this post???Hasn’t this been said many times?
I think it’s important to note that this diagram is titled “Introducing the Future of Sony Full Frame Lenses”
It does not say “Introducing the Future of Sony E-mount Full Frame Lenses”
They ARE telling us something here, plain as day. Some people choose to ignore it with their head in the sand.
The future of Sony Full Frame is E-mount!
The Sony A77 MKII will likely be the alpha mount E-mount and be called the A7000
I believe this 100%.
+1
I think it’s interesting every time this topic comes up, ADMIN doesnt say a word about it.
Normally he defends really wrong theories…
This is something to pay attention to.
I will bet you a lot of money you are dead wrong. Not to say there won’t be a A7000 but a A77 MK II will be A mount.
An educated guess about the price of the fast MF lenses?
Also, are they designed by Zeiss themselves?
Answers: Expensive. Yes.
Expensive is relative.
2k+?
Possibly less. I would wager in the $1k – $1.5k range. A few might be a bit cheaper like a 50mm f1.4 or 35mm f2 might fall below $1k.
Let me add my 2 cents. despite being an A mount user I’m not blind.
Sony A77 II
Mirrorless, E Mount with image stabilization.
Can admin be more specific and less general?
Yes there was that odd question that Admin asked a sources through the forum about a month ago.. “Are you sure it is E mount”..But has never let on what that was about…My pick is that it was about the A77II…It will be E mount.
I do believe that being more specific automatically has the added effect of being less general. LOL.
You may not be blind but expecting the A77 II to be E mount is pretty darn foolish.
If it was an E mount camera, Sony has plenty of other names to choose than existing A mount camera.
The A77 II is an A mount camera NOT an E mount camera.
,,,And the A-Mount lens roadmap is?
What is A-mount?
Oh, that old system that has been abandoned by Sony?
That’s the one
I found it, here it is:
So, all Alpha users should switch to Nikon?
I’d hate to deal with non-rotatable screen and OVF again… 🙁
No one is going to buy out A-mount cause Sony isnt going to sell it. They’re not going out of business…they’re only focusing on E-mount.
Sony’s just letting A-mount die. So either we switch (or use converters) to E-mount, or move to Canikon. I hate canon cause they’re so boring, and nikon cause they have so many QC problems. And I’m not using adapters for E-mount.
So I guess I’ll be using my Sony A-mount cameras till they die, and figure things out then.
It’s really bad because they were the only real cameras with IBIS.
Yep. Then Sony expects you to buy an adopter and lose 2 stops with your old lenses on an e-mount body. Really? ;^)
not to mention there’s no FE f2.8 zoom lens neither they are planned in the roadmap.
you can buy a Tamron SP 24-70mm F/2.8 Di VC USD for 1200$ way much better than a Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm F4 ZA OS for the same price!!!!
1000$ for a Sony Sonnar T* FE 55mm f/1.8 ZA????
you can get a Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D for 330$!!!
sony retard pricing.
I’m +1 here. Will hang on to my A65 with 16-50, Tamron 70-300 until it goes up in smoke. I can’t see myself getting an E-Mount FF offering anytime soon. Its just not an attractive offering, period.
No IBIS
Small and uncomfortable body
Slow native lenses (No, i will not use adapters)
Native zoom lenses are expensive and have horrid distortion.
The first two are being the most important factors for me.
Its pointless to go with A7, when my A65 is just as capable in low light, when you consider that it has IBIS. I just drop the shutter speed 2-3 stops and good to go.
If Canon or Nikon will not move to EVF or at least Hybrid EVF/OVF, I don’t know where I’ll move for a FF camera. I’m definitely not going to switch to OVF. Tried my brother’s A7000 and my friend’s 5D, and completely hated it. No exposure preview, dark viewfinder in low light, small VF on APSC, extremely limited setting overview, etc etc.
Yeah, I’m with you.
The irony is mirrorless is supposed to be so exciting yet I don’t find any of the Sony e/fe bodies compelling buys. If Admin is wrong and no more a-mount bodies come out – while I’ll be sorely disappointed – I’ll hold onto my a65 2-3 more years. FleaBay my dozens lenses. Half of them are Minoltas which hold their value. Who know where I’ll fly? Probably Canikon. Unlikely Sony being burned once by a company disinterested in building complete systems and committed to supporting them. Heck, Sony is already losing interest in e-mount APS-Cs. ;^)
But hey this is “the year of the A-mount”
:-/
more like
http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/zyi/kMq/zyikMqrcE.jpeg
“wide angle Zeiss zoom (to be announced soon in Spring)”
The astronomical spring (Northern Hemisphere) 2014 began on
Thursday, March 20
STILL WAITING!!!!!!
my issue with E mount FE lens is that they are all zeiss G wich means uber expensive..
So, 6 of them basically already exist, 5 are manual focus Zeiss lenses (no AF and astronomical price, woo-hoo!), leaving 3 real lenses. Why can’t sony adopt the philosophy of two clear lines of lenses (like Canon with its regular lenses and L lenses)? Cheap lenses (primes, like 35mm f/2) to attract people to the system, and something to step up to (eg 35mm f/1.4) so they stay in the system and there’s a constant flow of cash? Makes sense in every way!
I’ll take a Zeiss FE 18mm f4, manual focus, electronic aperture with a nice leather case to go please! Oh and can I get some weather seals with that?
Great camera bodies but the lenses are either underwhelming or ridiculously priced. Not smart Sony. Enjoy remaining a distant third to Nikon/Canon globally. It’s a pity cause the cameras are innovative and good value. Just a really terrible lens lineup.
I would tend to agree. It was the poor quality lenses that pushed me away from Sony. I liked the 24mm but it was nothing amazing and at £850 it should have been. Fuji’s 23mm was £160 when I bought it at is a lot better.
It’s a shame really as they really are inventive when it comes to camera designs.
A Sony rep who was promoting the A7/R at Samy’s in Pasadena last month said something similar: 15 lenses by this time next year.
Do note than there will be only 3 lenses from Sony. Most others will be MF prime lenses from other manufacturers.
I’m fine with that. I for one love shooting with primes. Right now I’m waiting to see if Sony/Zeiss will release faster 35mm prime, and I sincerely hope to see an 85mm f/2 or faster prime in the next few months.
An FE mount future is great for Sony. It seems that those shooters who are complaining, are holding onto old gear reminiscing about the past..and things were so much better in the good old days…Back then we had a thing called respect for your elders…
Stop being dinosaurs…Embrace the future…How can you complain about better image quality??….Great lenses (Stop moaning about the price!…How many times do you need to buy a 50mm lens?)…with plenty more to come…..Modular built cameras (as the A7 is designed) giving us new image technology coming to market faster than ever before…No more 4 year cycles…This type of camera system is attractive to the next generation of shooters, that have no desire to hold on to the same camera, for half a decade…That’s the future…
First off, not all of us can afford new stuff. Secondly an adapter is hardly a good solution. I have 2 extension tubes that have stopped working. That $400 will meet the same fate sooner than later. What about people with more than one A mount body ?
And not everyone likes tiny cameras that are available in E mount. Plus costly f4 zooms ain’t my cup of tea. There are just so many lens options for A mount that only those who are willing to get a $400 every 2 – 3 years will go for.
Unless Sony comes up with a much better/economical solution than a $400 adapter people are going to continue to crib.
How many times do you buy a 50/55mm lens? Hmmmm… if your a Sony fan quite a lot.
How many SAR users bought lenses for an a-mount, moved onto the e-mount ASP-C because it looked like the bright future and, now that Sony’s consolidating e-mount ASP-Cs and apparently losing interest there, are moving right on to outfitting FEs? That’s until Sony’s done making a few popular lenses there and sucking the easy profits out of the system.
I’m losing all faith in Sony. Sure, when I bought into the system with my humble a65 a few years ago I realized they were also-rans against Canikon and their lens system was weak but, hey, I’m an amateur. My needs are modest. I discovered the wonderful Minolta glass. The rest is history.
I’ve said it a zillion times. Arrogant e-mount fanboys cheering the death of the a-mount because this is their brief moment in the sun, for me the ergonomic of the puny e-mount ASP-Cs absolutely suck. Even if they didn’t, there’s not an ASP-C that can beat the IQ of my humble a65. Yep, it actually shocked me how the a6000 ‘flagship’ didn’t bump the needle a micron. Take out IBIS if I buy an expensive adapter and my old a65 I hope to upgrade beats the puny a6000 in low light.
So, your solution is I should buy an a7/a7R which cost double or more what I paid for may a65 new? Really? But, hey, I’ve got the money. I pondered it but neither of the cameras are well-rounded for my needs plus share the problems of all e-mounts mentioned above.
So what this “dinosaur” – realizing how completely unreasonable it is according to a-mount fanboys to expect a major camera manufacturer to support a mount – is for Sony to offer a new a-mount which offers me the a7R’s bump in IQ. And, naturally, bump up other specs like better low light to match the new state of the art.
I trust SAR that Sony has a few more a-mount bodies in its future. I hope to buy one if it seems like a credible upgrade. In any case, when Sony dumps the a-mount – a decision which I think points to monumental marketing incompetence – I’m done with Sony. I frankly won’t trust the brand again.
I thought Sony was better than the other weakling also-rans like Fuji, Pentax, Olympus (my favorite SLR in the film era), Lumix, etc. I’d like to hold onto some faint hope I was right but it’s looking grim.
I don’t get me wrong..I am not cheering the death of A-mount… Just not buying into the doom and gloom “The end is nigh” vibe around here. As so eloquently expressed by yourself…You never know, you may get your dream camera yet…
As for your “miracle” A65…Yeah nah…is there such a thing as an A-mount APS-C fanboy….
Straw man alert! Did I use the term “miracle”? Nope. Just pointing out the a6000 so many are thumping their chests about can’t beat it in IQ and that’s sad. Reading SAR posting for a least the 3rd time the same tired rumor the new a77II is a (disappointing) incremental upgrade it appears to me Sony is losing interest in ASP-C. Fearful of cannibalizing FFs, specifically the a7/a7R?
Despite all the conventional wisdom to the contrary, I suspect nearly bankrupt Sony isn’t as committed to camera systems – any system – as some folks assume the massive conglomerate is. While Canikon has its issues too, at least their core business is meeting the needs of photographers so they treat it more seriously.
But is missing from the A mount?
You have it all, what do you need more???
And with the new curved sensors, all of the old (currently new) FE lenses will be useless, because of the poor performance on the new sensor type.
However, this doesn’t really matter, because if you are truly happy with the results you’re getting from your current fantastic photo equipment, why worry about anything new? Buy some extra bodies cheap (in the near future) and go make photos.
Just got the A7r, mostly for my Pentax Limited glass (have K-3) and find this Sony thing is definitely the future. Hopefully the MkII will iron out the problems of AF, shutter slap and frames per second, but Sony is going in the right direction. Above all it’s light. Never again will I buy a heavy camera.
Hopefully the next A7 camera will combine all the best qualities of the A7r with the best of the A7s and an AF system like the A6000 has. Never thought I’d like shooting Sony, but I do!
On the subject of native lenses at least we have Zeiss on our side.
Would like the following AF lenses:
14/2.8 or even f4 if it keeps the size down, or perhaps a Tri-Elmar sort of design;
35/1.4 (to outperform the Leica Summilux 35mm FLE);
50/1.2 or even a 0.95;
85/1.4 (make the Sony Zeiss 85/1.4 an E-mount, perhaps a little work to sort out LoCA);
135/1.8 (just make Sony Zeiss 135/1.8 an E-mount, this glass of legend already).
The days of the big heavy DSLR will soon be over in my opinion. Never thought I’d say that either.