I got some info from trusted sources about the A6000:
– 24,3 Megapixel Exmor-R sensor
– Improved RGB filter
– Hybrid focusing, contrast and phase detection (though phase detection pixels)
– Fastest AF of all E-mount cameras
– Bionz X processor with adaptive noise reduction, increased sharpness and diffraction reduction
– ISO 100 up to 25,600
– Price around 650 Euro for body only.
– Built-in EVF in the corner just like the NEX-6 (an anonymous non verified source said it has the same quality of the A7/A7r EVF).
– On the back similar controls as the current NEX-6
– Camera replaces both the NEX-6 and NEX-7 cameras
I also have been told there will be no real new E-mount lens. But as you know one more (bigger) announcement has to come in 4-6 weeks from now. So there is hope to see new E and FE lenses by than!
The A6000 announcement will be made on Wednesday (Feb 12) at 5-6 am London time.
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so no proper NEX-7 replacement coming? wtf?
Correct me if I am wrong, but the only difference a NEX-7 successor would have, is a third configurable dial (while the NEX-6 has the same amount of dials, but one of them is a dedicated non-configurable mode Switch), isn’t it?
no from a marketing point of view there should be a camera in a 1000-1300 price range to compete with X-T1 (and so fourth), while the A7 occupy the high 1700 range. thus one should expect a tri-nav, metal premium built camera with more professional features.
There is – its called the A7.
Yawn. I’ve heard that many times now.
Once and for all:
The A7 is a nice camera, but not an upgrade to the NEX7.
Most important differences:
– A lot bigger (the hump alone makes me lose interest)
– Much louder (the shutter makes Klack-Klack instead of ssss-t)
– bigger and more expensive lenses
– Aps-C lenses are ‘less worth’ on an A7 (only 10 MPixel remaining when cropped to APS-C)
– No fully configurable Tri-Navi
Yes, it’s nice that it’s full-frame. But please understand that not everyone wants FF, even if it’s affordable. Unless of course if it fits into the same package as NEX7 AND has the same or comparable pixel-density as the NEX7. (around 54 MPixel)
I think DenGen summarized it quite well. Only one not getting this seems to be Sony and their marketing department.
Oh, I forgot one point for the NEX7
– Higher frame rate (A7 feels more like my old Alpha 300 than my NEX7)
Joe is complaining that his camera replacement is cheaper lol. If this new camera was priced at 1000+ he’d be happy even if it had the same specs as what’s rumoured.
We should wait and see how the camera performs. This camera may actually be a nex-7 replacement. I liked my nex-6 better than my nex-7 and only wished the nex-6 had a mic input and the video did not overheat. The tri navi is nice but its not that big of a deal. The plastic nex-6 build was fine to me and I did not find much of a difference in quality, metal is not always better. Overall the nex-6 was a better camera so replacing the 6&7 makes sense to me since they were not that different to begin with and if it is cheaper than the X-T1 and can compete I don’t see a problem.
That third configurable dial is a big deal for me. Especially given how uncomfortable the back dial is. Also, having dial over dial as on the NEX-6 sucks when you use gloves.
Sounds pretty interesting to me.
I would highly appreciate if the A6k can handle the corner issues of the 1670Z better than the NEX7 does. Additionally a faster AF and a brighter EVF and the 650 for body only makes it worth for me.
This IS the NEX 6/7 replacement. Oh, it doesn’t meet your precise specifications? What a shame.
Well, if the AF is a real improvement over what the NEX 6 can deliver I am probably in for 650€…
Admin, do you have any further information what your sources mean by “Camera replaces both the NEX-6 and NEX-7 cameras”?
Will there never be an A7000? Will there be an A5 in a NEX style body that hits the 1000€ price point? Or is it just marketing BS so we don‘t wait for the NEX 7 successor and invest now?
Sound great! Will it have direct sensor readout for video?
Superb ! Looks like a no-brainer.
Only thing I would really appreciate, as others stated, to learn from Andrea is whether there will be a true NEX-7 successor … because if so I would surely wait for it !
And UHS-2 card speed support?
Are you sure it’s an R sensor? Because that would mean it’s backside illuminated, which would make it the first Sony still camera sensor larger than “1 inch”, to have that technology. I’d expect a regular Exmor (non R).
Exmor R would allow substantially higher res without loss of ISO
Since this sensor is not higher res than the old one I xo not see any reason for the change unless this sensor is much faster than previos sensors.
I would lean towards believing this is a typo since Sony info has been quite prone to typos.
An Exmor R scaled up from the current HX 300 sensor to C size would exceed 100mp
Although I have spoken for Exmor R.unless this is a super senive high ISO night camera it seems more likely this is Exmor.
Can those phase detection pixels be used for faster A mount lenses focusing?
Hybrid AF doesn’t work with the LA-EA1 or LA-EA3 adapter.
To get fast AF you have to use the LA-EA2 and LA-EA4 which have built in Phase Detection AF anyway.
Hey Admin, what does “”improved” RGB filter” mean?
Didn’t gt info about that.
See below, there are two possibilities:
, either they have
– a stronger colour filter (less wavelength width) which means, that colour rendition is better but low light capabilitys decreases
– a weaker colour filter (more wavelength width) which means more light hits the sensor but you loose colour information.
It’s a tradeoff, to this date Sony apted for a comparatively strong colour filter thus the better colour bit slightly worse low light performance than the Nikon cameras with the same sensors.
I think weaker colour filters are more likely because that would result in higher DXO-Rankings. But the Colours would get worse and I like the current Sony vectors.
They can have both (RGBW sensor). But raw converters are not ready so many ppl will complain.
In discussions about ISO on Luminous Landscape, relating to the new SONY Phase One collaboration, it was mentioned that one way to improve ISO is to allow more yellow to leak into the greens. However, Phase One decided against allowing that in order to maintain the best colors possible. I am guessing that SONY went the other way, and go for bragging rights on ISO, rather than keeping the best colors.
If this is back illuminated that would result in less light spilling from pixel to pixel.
If Exmor R is not a typo that would definitely qualify as improved rgb filter.
Exmor-R? Is that a typo, or are we actually looking at the first back-illuminated APS-C sensor here?
It’ll certainly be interesting to see how the low-light performance is if that’s true, even though the advantages of BSI supposedly diminish as the size of the photosite goes up.
Will it have a touchscreen?
I fear that improved color filters mean, that they trade color-accuracy for low-light capabilitys, just like Nikon.
This is the reason why Nikon has better Low-Light-Noise but worse colour accuracy than Sony with the same sensor (e.g. D600 vs A7 or A7r vs D800), they have weaker colourfilters. This means more light reaches the sensor but you loose colorinformation.
A very real possibility…
Is it possible that the opposite may be true and that the backlit sensor is able to compensate for the reduced light transmission through stronger colour filters; therefore improving colour rendition (I have no idea if this is possible/realistic or not – just trying to join the dots…)
Exmor-R
R?
I see lots of people wanting a replacement for THEIR favourite NEX. The fact is there were too many models in the NEX line-up which confused the average buyer.
So now you have the A3000 for happy snappers who like the look of DSLR’s, the A5000 for people who want small like the NEX 5, and the A6000 for the NEX 6/7 fans. If you don’t think the A6000 is a worthy successor to the NEX 7, then save for an A7.
Sony don’t make cameras specifically for YOU. They make them to make profit. They are not a charity devoted to YOU.
Get real people.
Sure. Also the price of say the Fuji X-T1 is not that much lower than what you pay for the A7. But maybe Sony should do a better job of communicating that. Otherwise people might wait or buy from another manufacturer instead.
+1
Sony’s marketing department is doing extremely poor job. Otherwise Sony would have rued mirrorless camera and even got a significant market share from Canikon DSLR market by now.
Both Fuji X-T1 and OM-D EM1 are good cameras. But they are way over priced. If Sony marketing department do their job properly, they can grab the lion share of mirrorless market with NEX and A7/A7R.
I think the EM1 is definetly overpriced by about 3-400 dollars. They do now have the EM10 for 699.00. However, no weather sealing, 3 axis vs 5 axis. The EM5 is now overpriced. The are offering 200 off the em5 and another 200 off of most of their lenses right now. That makes the price pretty attractive but how long will it last? The Fuji offers a lot of bang for the buck all things considered but I also think it’s 300 overpriced.
You can get A7 for slightly more but no IBIS and not so fast AF. For a lot of people that is a huge no. I do see the A6000 as pretty competitive if they market it right.
In reality the price of the Fuji X-T1 is right where it needs to be. Especially compared to the A7. For about 300 less then the A7 you get a full magnesium alloy body instead of a partial one. The A7 is plastic on the front. You also get a better ‘more true’ weather sealing. I mean, the card door on the A7 isnt sealed. Whaaaa…?
True, the A7 is FF but the Xtrans sensor in the X series is a mean little device capable of stunning imagery and is top notch. There is no AA filter which is very nice. The Fuji is priced just about where my NEX 7 was a couple of years ago and I can tell you after holding and shooting with the X-T1 it is the nicer camera by light years.
And the Fuji has those three neat little words that you dont see much anymore that still matter to me…MADE IN JAPAN.
Its a bargain for everything you get.
Everything about Sony just hasnt impressed me recently. After giving the Fujinon lenses a good look Im almost embarrassed by the E mount selection. Sony is still all over the place on its camera roadmap and lets not talk about killing the NEX name. It seems to be one misstep after another.
Im very dissapointed in this 6/7 replacement. I mean, I give them Kudos for coming out with the first full frame interchangeable lens mirrorless camera. The A7 is really sweet. But the A6000 is the best they came come up with in TWO YEARS to replace my NEX 7? Even making it in China or Thailad instead of Japan?
Sorry Sony…you just lost a customer. And no, Im not a Fuji fanboy. Got the pics from my NEX 7 to prove it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8539414@N07/
Nice pics man….
Glad you don’t work in business. Successful companies go between your extremes, you produce for profit but you listen to your customer base, hopefully you can merge the two into a killer product. The tech worlds seen a number of companies follow your example here today gone tomorrow.
Actually, I do work in business. Sony look at trends and discuss with professional photographers like any other camera manufacturer. Listen to their customers? These cameras can spend years in development and feedback from customers takes time to materialise in products.
I don’t presume to know whether you work in business or not, but you are clearly don’t know anything about R&D.
Lol, yeah, you sure know a lot.
FYI: It’s been a while since the last time Sony made any serious profit on anything.
Oh, so they don’t make them to make profit then? Please.
A5000 is a 3N replacement. it does not have two wheels like the 5R and 5T do.
and a6000 does not have flipping screen for self-shots.
So Sony have to make cameras with the same controls and features as previous models to keep you happy? Like I said, get real.
I think people just want a new model to be better than the previous model at the same price. For most digital cameras and most companies that has been constantly true. For some reason SONY has decided to make the new models be less good than the previous models at the same price. Maybe the crazy name games are all a way to try to hide that.
+1
Exactly my thoughts. Applies to any other industry and any other manufacturer, except Sony. If I buy a 518-series BMW, I will be able to buy a better-in-every-regard 518-series BMW two years later. An iPhone 5 is better in every regard compared to an iPhone 4. Only the Nex-7 is discontinued in all probability. And no, the A7/R is not an upgrade path, not as long as I have got E-lenses worth a few thousand dollars. They will look a little bit overdressed mounted on a Nex-6-successor-plastic-box 🙁
Of course, they do. Unless the controls are better. Geez, do you even take photos?
+1000
As the owner of a NEX 5R, I chose it for all those reasons (dials, flip screen, better than NEX 3) including the touch screen. I don’t care about viewfinders — it’s a waste of space and money. I want a better NEX 5 camera… not some stupid incomprehensible Alpha thing.
Lol, what a bunch of nonsense. There have been four NEX models (3,5,6 and 7) and now there are three. Finally, nobody will get confused anymore, what a relief!
Sony makes cameras _exactly_ for me. When they stop doing that, I don’t buy it. Charity, lol.
Thanks for making my point for me. The bottom line is, if you are no longer happy with what Sony are offering, take your money elsewhere.
«Improved» RGB filter may mean higher quantum efficiency that will lead into lower color separation, i.e. worse colors and better high ISO performance. Once I switched from Pentax I liked Sony colors very much. I hope I am wrong with my pessimism.
If this is true then this would be the first backlit aps-c sensor right? At least I think that is what the exmor r is (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor).
Extremely unlikely.
Back/front illuminated has nothing to do with the type of CFA on top of it.
oops, sorry, i misunderstood it, “exmor r” does really mean BSI, but i think it’s a mistake
Sony’s message is clear: if you want the latest and greatest in mirrorless, forget APS-C.
The tech-factor has closed the performance gap between FF and APS-C before. Technology level matters, not just size and usually we get the newest technology in the smaller sensors first. I have both a NEX 7 and an A7r and they both have their advantages. Shallow depth of field isn’t everything in this world. Sometimes in certain situations it’s more of a pain.
This is where people are delusional… current small sensors have reduced the gaps that older small sensors of the same size had against big sensors back then but against modern sensors, the gap in performance is primarily determined by the sensor size.
FourThirds users have been saying the same thing forever, but as every generation of cameras come along, FourThirds (now microFourThirds) is left behind. It’s true that some of the newer technologies make it to smaller sensors first and they do improve the relative performance but the size differences between, mFT vs. APS-C, and APS-C vs. FF and FF vs. DMF, etc. are too large just to close with such minute improvements in technology.
FF has a good 1 stop over APS-C… take a look at how long it has taken APS-C tech has taken to improve the noise by 1 whole stop. If you bought a Sony a900 back in 2009, it still has lower noise than the latest and greatest APS-C that Sony has to offer and the a900 was generations behind even at the time of release. Canon’s best APS-C 70D also barely touches the 1Ds from 2002… but here you are thinking the gap is nothing.
And no… DOF and noise is not the only things going for full-frame. Equivalent lenses on FF are better than what you get on APS-C simply because of physics. Again… you can’t get around these.
“Equivalent lenses on FF are better than what you get on APS-C simply because of physics. Again… you can’t get around these.”
That’s the only thing I’d question in your statement. How do you figure? I’ve never seen any comparison’s proving this.
Also, aside from the current sensor size argument, the type of sensors on the horizon might change that story. Sigma’s faveon type sensors offer 30% better noise performance over similar sized chips. This type of sensor in a MTF would raise the bar dramatically. Coupled with the increased resolution and ability to squeeze even more MP’s out of a chip…..what we’ve experienced thus far in terms of sensor tech I don’t think will remain true in the near future.
There are 2 reasons – less linear resolution requirements for larger format lenses and depending on the lens, less demanding optical requirements.
Assuming the same megapixel count, a larger sensor has less linear resolution and therefore, the demand on optical design are lessened. This is somewhat offset by needing to cover a larger area but basically, it comes down to lenses for larger formats don’t need to provide the same resolution. This isn’t quite as big a deal these days, but it is still the case that a 24MP APS-C camera like the NEX-7 will challenge optical designers more than even a 36MP FF camera like the A7R will (the latter camera has less resolution than even the 16MP NEX-6).
The other factor is focal length – there are inherent difficulties in designing particular focal lengths. The “sweet spot” is from about 50mm to 200mm. Any wider or longer and it becomes increasingly harder to deal with various aberrations.
So beyond the issue of resolution, a 50mm lens on FF (or 80mm on MF) is a simpler design than a 35mm on APS-C or 25mm on 4/3. Likewise, a 24mm is already a challenge to design on 35mm FF but the 16mm equivalent on APS-C is very very difficult. APS-C ultrawide lenses tend to have very complex distortion patterns. On the flip side, MF ultrawides like the old Pentax 35mm will blow away any FF lens in terms of field flatness and corner resolution.
m4/3 (and 4/3 before it) dealt with this by using in-body lens correction – all 4/3 and m4/3 lenses have firmware chips that store correction data and it used to be that using Panny lenses on Oly bodies, or vice versa, would cause the corrections to not get properly applied (not sure if this is still the case or not). Fuji does this as well and yes, all three of these manufacturers cook the corrections into RAW files. Sony does this with the RX100 as well, not sure of the RX10.
Foveon x3 sensor is slightly better ONLY in B&W. If we are talking about colors, it’s far behind and has lower DR.
aah, another one, it’s color separation is much more dependant on temperature than of bayer sensor.
As I said, it’s because of physics that equivalent lenses on larger formats are easier to design. For example, when do you think anyone will make a 44mm f/0.35 lens that can easily out-resolve a 300 megapixel full-frame sensor wide open? Any idea? I have no idea either… but for the 8×10″ format, it was done in 1944.
Just like a wider bucket gathers more water than one with a smaller opening when exposed to the same rain for the same amount of time, a larger sensor gathers more photons (signal) for the same exposure duration than a smaller sensor. Lens equivalence is when you use a brighter lens on the smaller sensor to compensate for its area disadvantage. There’s a mathematical relationship here and hence the reason why APS-C needs a lens that’s approximately 1 stop faster than a lens on FF to match everything (primarily noise and DOF).
The physics part I mentioned comes in designing lenses of different maximum apertures. Light rays needs to bend around more inside a f/1.4 lens than they would in a f/2 lens and so on… the more they bend, the more “fractures” they get. So while a ~35mm f/1.4 lens on APS-C is fully equivalent to a 50mm f/2 lens on FF on paper, because of the extra acrobatics that light rays need to do in the faster lens, the quality is compromised.
Actually, if we are talking about Four-thirds, they used to be 2.5 stops behind FF in terms of “high ISO” and they are now only 1.5 stops behind, so there is a bit of truth!
Canon hasn’t improve their sensors much, Sony has.
I guess you missed the part where I said “it’s true that some of the newer technologies…” 🙂
There’s more to equivalence that’s beyond what the simplified DxO/optimised-for-web version of it captures 🙂 Even with the same number of megapixels, a larger sensor produces a higher quality image than a smaller sensor when using equivalent lenses. I’ve explained the reasons for this in my reply to THKPIC.
That’s not the message I am getting. I am getting the fact that Sony wants the buyer to get a great camera for a reasonable price. I would think the flagship APS-C E mount will support 4k recording (which this probably won’t). If the tool is good, people will buy it. If I can have something that I could use for 650, instead of 900, I’d be happy.
Don’t you have to wait for photo samples & reviews to make that conclusion?
NEX / APS-C E-mount users complain that a7/FE users get the best quality and marketing from Sony and about consolidation of their camera bodies; FE users complain about corner sharpness, IBIS, lack of lenses & a-mount users, and the a-mount owners complain about SLT light loss, EVF vs OVF, impending doom, E-mount users and lack of releases.
What to do? Go all 7 – Buy an NEX-7, an a7r and an a77 – then you can hate everything Sony and every user.
The only thing clear to me about Sony Camera Imaging products is to stay in a holding pattern until the dust settles. I’m still circumspect about their A-mount intentions and don’t want to go whole-hog into E-mount if it’s actually FE that is the priority.
Yep, precisely.
When will they release a 4K camera?
Does A6000 do 4K or is capable of doing 4K by firmware release?
Will they release something 4K in Nex shape this year?
Exmor R = backside illuminated? Would be the first sensor of this size to have that.
I think that’s a typo, the bigger the sensor the less efficiency the BIS
Care to explain why earlier non-BSI 1/1.7″ and 1/2.3″ sensors has PER UNIT of area MORE efficient than their larger contemporary sensors, and not the reverse?
More importantly, BSI allows to almost get rid of colorshift and digital vignetting issues.
Which non “front” illuminated 1/1.7″ and 1/2.3″ sensor models would that be and where can we find their efficiency measurements compared?
Delete “non”. So which front illuminated sensors…
http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/DxOMark-review-for-advanced-compacts
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One can conclude from this analysis that the Canon G11 and S90 sensor has a much higher performance per unit of surface than the Olympus EP1 or the Nikon D3x sensors.
end quote
(more than 1 stop advantage! here, G11, S90, D3X have FSI CCD sensors and EP1 has FSI CMOS sensor)
It does not look like smaller sensors ever had systemically lower QE than larger ones
http://www.sensorgen.info/
I am a big proponent of backside illumination.
I hope it will have a touchscreen
Integrated evf + touchscreen? That be the end of my 5r 🙂
So the processor is the same as the A7?
There is NO touch screen? Or did I miss something?
Touch control of focus is the biggest thing I miss from my Panasonics — and the thing that will cause me to switch back if Sony can’t get with the program.
the one feature i would love that only panasonic seems to have implemented with the GX7 is a tiltable/articulating viewfinder. i use the optional attachment for my 5R and never take it off because the tilting EVF is so useful.
Will A6000 be capable of continuous video and no overheating?
I am 99% sure it will not have that problem. Sony has fixed that problem. If only they fix that problem with there flash system.
I like what I read !! The price is pretty reasonable, too.
DOES IT HAVE FULL CLEAR CODEC and READOUT?
If not it is the nex(t) worse pice of crapp you can not
sell in those days. not for more than 349,90-$
Do SONY think people are idiots?
Do they?
i do not mention about button is now 1cm up and finish of chapi chapi
is there.. WHAT IS 2014 with THIS CAMERA?
a58 has worsest filmproblems
nex7 is only litte usabel but come on, for 1000usd,-$ you sit
435 litte bucks away from bmc 2,5 k normal cam and soon gh4 and
so on.
My daly film cam is a normal F3..it is a damed good pice of
SONY-CRAFTMANS_WORK… this i want also se on such things like
A6000.. and not a kidish-smartphone-all3 weeke-buy-nex(t) for
the garbageshredderbox…
and also waht this pain in the ass not to put all buttons on one cam
and tilt moni and so on.
ONE NEX now ONE A but this one A ROCKS….
6 years later i will buy nex(T)….
is this message incomeing in sony-brain-less-head-quater
do you coppy….. huston?
Film? As in Nikon F3? They would run over $1000 today, adjusted for inflation.
I am sure that hardbonemac is referring to the Sony true Super 35 mm PMW-F3 Digital Motion Picture Camera. They would run over $16000 today (basic price). 🙂
And that is considered to be EXTREMELY CHEAP for a camera of this caliber…
Film as in Movie cam.
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Franken-Nex. A compilation of old used parts to make a new camera. I have to say one thing, if I were going bankrupt this what I’d do too. I thought from senior management at Sony it was not going to release any cameras until there is a substantial advance in technology. Here we have absolutely no advancement whatsoever, actually the opposite, everything in this camera comes from another camera. I’d say this is goodnight for Sony. This as they hit the one year anneversery of the no release of anything A-mount. Fuji is going to clobber them in the enthusiast APS-c market this year.
Dan
ye canikon innovates a lot in each gen, t5i = t4i.
A Nokia Lumia phone with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, 4-inch touch screen, GPS and 8 GB internal storage can be had for 129 euros, but Sony can’t get touch screen and GPS included in a 650 euro camera?
I don’t want a touch screen, but it’s such a commodity that it should be included in every camera made today, and probably adds max $10 to the costs.
Point being: Every feature included in 400 euro camera should be included in a 650 euro camera. If touch screen doesn’t add any value for most customers, then they shouldn’t include it in any model.
The camera market needs to be re-invented.
Franken-Nex. A compilation of old used parts to make a new camera. I have to say one thing, if I were going bankrupt this what I’d do too. I thought from senior management at Sony it was not going to release any cameras until there is a substantial advance in technology. Here we have absolutely no advancement whatsoever, actually the opposite, everything in this camera comes from another camera. I’d say this is goodnight for Sony. This as they hit the one year anneversery of the no release of anything A-mount. Fuji is going to clobber them in the enthusiast APS-c market this year.
Dan
Incremental upgrades are nice. It shows a degree of consistency in the line-up. This is what Nikon/Canon often do. Sony innovates but that worries clients : they wonder if they are going to abandon the a-mount, or that they will abandon APS-C e-mount.
Moreover, incremental upgrades are more likely to happen in lower-end cameras. Look at Canon and how often they reused the 18MP sensor.
At that price, the A6000 looks like a fine camera. Faster/more accurate AF is the most important piece. For now, I’d rather see Sony focus on lenses.
The main change compared to the NEX-6 is the new Bionz chip.
Putting the new chip in cameras across the board is the main thing Sony is doing this year. This involves quite a lot of work.
Among other things, a faster chip should be able to speed up focussing.
Sony has enough arm chair CEOs, don’t quit your day job.
Unlike the majority posts here, I think this cam will be quite interesting and useful. If the price is correct then it could be a worthy upgrade for NEX-6/7.
Why? If you have either the Nex 6 or Nex 7, why would you buy this Franken-Nex? If you have the Nex 6, you only get more MP, and Nex 7 a bit of on sensor pixels. I guess if you have money to blow for no good reason just buy a better camera, just buy the Fuji Xt-1 2 weeks later, or the A7, if you have no need for lenses.
Dan
I agree, Vivek. The NEX6 and NEX7 are already great cameras and an upgrade seems not really necessary , but if you can afford and feel for it, a faster AF and more pixels (compared to NEX6) are welcome further developments. I think we cannot expect any more that a new generation of cameras will always bring some entirely great new inventions. At today’s level of technology and quality, it is no problem to skip one or two update generations. I still hope for that Z-shift sensor though, that would rule the camera world.
Great. Can we get some lenses please? The only decent 35 equivalent is the Zeiss and it is way too expensive. I think there are enough e mount bodies out there. In fact, I think there are more bodies than lenses. I’m happy with my NEX 6. Now, give me some lenses.
If the NEX6/7 successor does not fit my taste I am stuck with the choice between an A7+55mm1.8 or X-T1+56mm1.2 ;___;
My favorite would be the NEX6 sensor in a NEX7 body and an 85mm1.8 lens OSS…. :3
i don’t find mentioned setups comparable. the 55 zeiss on the a7 is more like the Fuji with the 35mm 1.4 on it.
I take the longest prime I can get 😀
Admin, please clarify: backlit (BSI) APS-C sensor?
Oh dear it looks like Sony has divorced itself from APSC at the top end to protect and indulge itself with it’s current full frame whim. I will not be going the heavy FE mount lens route. That is the problem with Sony, they are like a speedboat without a driver -it may be fun for a while but you will probably get thrown overboard sooner or later!
Lol, current full frame whim? The 36x24mm frame has been the dominant image capture size for 40+ years.
Amen!
If Sony is a speed boat then Canon and Nikon = oil tankers; no fun and no change of direction!
I’don’t understand why they still disclaim on IBIS. A lot of Problems could been solved with that. They could close the gap between A-/E-mount.
Admin
Please tell us if you know
Is this Exmor R or Exmor?
are there really no new lenses?
It seems like these Tri Nav is very difficult to produce, Sony will take ten years to recover the lost of producing Nex 7. Maybe the circuitry is too near to put two dials side by side, it seems like they burnt one million motherboard when one Nex 7 is produced. I really can’t give Sony any better excused for not earning everyone money. Wahahah!
Extra dials costs money. You want more dials then buy the A99.
the Tri-Navi dials are very usefull especially when your moving the focus point around for fine tuning manual focus. 1 dial for horizontal movement and 1 dial for vertical.
I shoot nikon primes on a lens turbo. The smooth top plate on the Nex7 is also nice. I really dislike the bump on the Nex7 for the mode dial.
After not using a mode dial for the last 6 months since I got D800 I now know why. Photographers that use a mode button wonder why anyone would want a mode dial. And I know why one would want a mode dial.
A6000 needs a decent buffer too. Nex7 at least got 11 raw shots from the 10fps speed priority burst.
I can wait for a true nex7 replacement.
I just want a Nex7 replacement to have the sensor that the D5200 or D5300 has because of the minimal or non existent moiré in video and the ability to change settings in 1/3 stops instead of full stops. Video can be recorded at ANY ISO not limited like Nex7.
And _if_ A6000 has a touchscreen not having Tri-Navi is still so relevant?
I agree, Iso limit 1600 in most sony cameras , is wtf.. and in video if you want to change settings you loose af, or the limit on 3.5 aperture for af..
If Exmor R is true, this camera will be a game changer.
Exmor R is a more advanced technology than Exmor and esential for smaller sensors.
With the introduction of new stacked sensors Sony will have 3 sensor technologies to support.
It seens logical to phase one out.
Since no one will want Exmor when stacked comes out this would be the most logical one to phase out and replace withe Exmor R.
So although this is a logical move Sony is not known for making logical moves.
I am anxious to see if this is true..mayby all the new A mount cameras will be Exmor R prior to introduction of stcked sensors.
One big issue for me is that the NEX-6 style body doesn’t allow back button autofocus, like the NEX-7. If the new camera lacks this, I’ll have to pass on it, even if the image quality is better.
Any idea of this does full pixel read out for video?
Glad to hear it has an Exmor R sensor – so I assume it is back lit like the other Exmor R sensors like in the HX50v and the RX100m2 –
I was watching an interview with a Sony rep shortly after the RX100m2 came out and he stated that Sony would not be doing any back lit technology on sensors larger then the one in the RX100m2 or the 1 inch sensor and stated some technical barrier that just did not make it do-able. Well I am hoping that he was wrong on his statement – and maybe it was just a ploy to fool the competition –
It seems that the Mega Pixel race is pretty much over – at least for now – of course I agree that more MP can mean more detail and some freedom with cropping – but to many can make the sensor to dense and therefore not as good in low light –
So if new sensor is back lit then that is good news
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Did the sources ever mention anything about waveguides or multi-layer filters/micro lenses? If so, that could make sense for a rumor that discussed both a BSI sensor and improved RGB filter.
That is, in terms of area fill factor for these large diameter photodiodes, there isn’t as much bang-for-your-buck for using BSI (as compared to those tiny smartphone photodiodes). However, eliminating the circuitry around the photodiode might allow you to be more creative with the RGB micro lenses. Its that creativity that might allow you to capture the few extra percent of light that could not have been captured in a FSI sensor.
“fill factor” used to be significant before microlenses came. After it, it’s almost completely irrelevant.
Is there a chance for a firmware update for faster af on the A7? Maybe uncompressed raw? Any rumors on that?
And here’s a firt pic of the A6000!
http://digicame-info.com/2014/02/6000-2.html
Sony messed up the NEX line-up. They had four price- and feature-wise clearly differentiated models (3,5,6,7), and since buyers generally have a specific price point in mind, any given buyer would have chosen between 3 and 5, 5 and 6, or 6 and 7. Basically two alternatives for every buyer, not confusing at all. There were also room for a full frame NEX-9 at the top of the line-up.
Now we have the cheap, DSLR-styled A3000, the cheap, NEX-styled A5000 which supposedly replaces the NEX-3N, the medium-priced NEX-styled A6000 which replaces both NEX-6 and -7, and finally the DSLR-styled A7/A7R at the high end. And no room left for a NEX-5 replacement between A5000 and A6000. A marketing disaster!