Image on top shows the NEX-6. New A6000 will look just like it!
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I am finally making quantum leaps forward on the SR5 rumors. Not only about the next CP+ announcement but also on the next announcement in March! Today let’s talk about the A6000 and A79:
A6000:
I can now confirm that the A6000 (NEX-6/7 successor) is the only system camera that will be announced next week on February 12 . All those waiting for new A-mount camera or other E-mount cameras will have to wait til early April to get them right before the NAB show in las Vegas.
The A6000 looks almost exactly like the current NEX-6 and features a similar 24 Megapixel sensor. But the new sensor has phase detection pixel for improvement focusing on moving object.
A79:
And I can tell you now that the A79 is coming sooner than expected (likely in March). It will be announced short time after the A6000. More info coming soon…
A hint:
I know the A6000 will replace the NEX-7 but not look like it. Don’t worry, if you like the NEX-7 design more there might be a surprise from Sony at Photokina….so I have been told.
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Do You know if it will be exactly as nex-6 or similar? AF/MF switch as in NEX-7 maybe? Touch screen?
Since they’re dropping the 16MP sensor for a 24MP, I hope it’s a new, improved for less high-ISO noise! I’ve always preferred the NEX6 ( instead of 7 ) due to the better noise performance.
I expected a more Nex7-like body for the A6000… What about the buttons layout and the dials in this case?
A-mount is hopping around these days. Its coming… Its not coming… Its coming… Its not coming……..
🙂
Just hoping to get some good news and details soon
Really, dont worry 🙂
Any more news on this new RX camera for next week? A “RX20” ?
That’s what she said.
And this is why I have held off buying the A77. Looking forward to the arrival of the A79!
– An A-mount APS-C user
There will be a significant price difference between the A77 and the A79. The A77 is a bargain.
Hi, nice to know i’m not the only APS-C A-mount user left.
I’m using a Alpha 200 at the moment, which i’m happy with, and have a set of a-mount lenses i really like (and which are worth much more then the body) and just a few are full-frame. What should i do when my camera breaks and i want a (rather) new replacement, but i dont want to pay for a semi-pro body i dont need? Some E-mount body with adapter? My wife uses an Alpha 35 and it feels already too small for my hands… Will there be an amateur a-mount body in the future or am i supposed to switch to e-mount?
a57 or a67..
*a65 , sorry
Wait for the A77 to be discontinued and then buy a used A77 from eBay for peanuts. Don’t bother with the A57 or A65, pay the extra and thank me later. 😉
I reckon Sony are pushing APS-C users to E-mount.
Definitely looks that way at the low end. I’m still pretty excited about the a79 – the likely features are enough to justify the upgrade from my a77,but I won’t consider going ff a-mount until there’s more certainty about the future.
My thoughts about Sony’s A-mount line –
It’s going to continue alongside the E-mount, for sure. Many of the NEX / E-Mount users here are fairly new to the game and seem to be a lot more vocal than many of us A-mount users!
http://www.flickr.com/cameras/sony/
Look at how many A-mount cameras are used (8 A-mount cameras are in the top 20), and particularly how the A77 is ranked number 2; there is a huge customer base looking for an upgrade from the A77, A33, A55, A35, A57, A58…etc
There seems to be a fair amount of pessimism that is rather unwarranted, the bottom line is it has just been a while since Sony released a new A-mount camera.
The A77 is definitely a bargain. If the A79 is too pricey / not what I’m looking for, I’ll be jumping on that train, but just like the rest of you, I’m aching for Sony to release it already!
Even though only one A mount camera was released last year the A mount cameras still manage to sell close to double the E mount cameras based on the Japanese numbers. Don’t be confused by the trolls here but at least one of them seems to be very intelligent and gets people going. There are a few that use multiple usernames to post as a e mount user in a mount news but also they post as an a mount user in e mount posts. It’s the same people over in the m43 site playing Olympus and Panasonic off against each other.
Admin, thanks for the E-mount camera news.
Do you have any indication about RX1 successor?
Thanks (again) in advance!
It’s not a successor. It’s a different lens/sensor camera.
Come on Admin, more info about the RX1 😀 😀 😀
Got to be the RX-35 – APS sensor, 24/1.4 fixed lens giving a 35mm Full frame field of view.
Taking care of the Nikon Coldpix A and Ricoh GR sales….
Oh, please be a wide angle!
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease! More Infos!!!!
Only system camera? Does this mean rx cam will be announced.
Bummer.
Let’s hope that Photokina rumor is true. Would hate to see the NEX 7 replaced with a dumbed down camera.
Oh boy, *exactly* what I feared. This is NOT a N7 replacement AT ALL. Well, whatever…
Indeed. The rumored price tag was already a VERY bad sign. I like things to be cheap but unfortunately, in the real world, successor cameras don’t get cheaper than the predecessor unless they have less features.
Well, I will still be happy with my Nex7 for a little longer. Let’s cross our fingers that there will really be a good surprise at Photokina. Can’t wait.
I’m kind of waiting for this upcoming announcement (and initial reviews) before deciding if I will stay with APS-C or go to FF on e-mount, i.e. go from “Nex” to A7r or A7.
My current FF camera is a Nikon and APS-C is a Nex-7.
If you have an FF Nikon and a NEX-7 there is not much point in buying any other camera to “upgrade”. Better to get lenses, tripod head, bellows, etc.
If you are desperate to buy a camera, why not pick up a Sigma DP Merrill camera ? They are quite different from what you have and are very cheap now.
I already have a lot of mostly manual Nikkor lenses, and ancillary equipment, so this is not a “weakness” at my end. My main gripe with the Nex-7 is the noise it produces at higher ISO values. If the successor to the NEX-7 is not markedly better, then I probably will eventually end up taking a good long look at the A7/A7r.
The Nikon is a bit large and heavy. The Nex-7 is small, light and can use my Nikkor lenses. Both cameras are great, IMHO.
Besides my GF has kind of kidnapped my Nex-7… 😉
This might be exactly what Sony is speculating: Many NEX7-owners might consider migrating towards A7/R.
Having used the NEX7, however, I think the A7 feels pretty clunky. Too big for my needs. Having the full frame sensor and the better EVF is nice, but the A7 just doesn’t feel as smooth as the NEX7. In addition, I really dislike the shutter sound whereas I love the shutter sound of the NEX7.
Last not least, the resolution on the A7R, cropped down to APS-C corresponds to 16MPixel. Hence, the A7/R would be a step backwards in terms of resolution when using the old lenses.
If no correct NEX-7 with improved performance comes, I will not move to A7, I do not want a FF sensor, it is as simple as that. In that case I change the brand.
The only FF sensor camera that I would like to have is RX1, but for me it is too expensive. For what I would do, mainly street shooting, that camera is ideal.
So hope to see a real NEX-7 successor, with less noisy sensor and a body with all the features that Pana GX7 offers to us at the moment.
+1 Sony dropped the ball again. KTHXBAI.
NEX6/7? I see it more as a successor to the NEX5/6, which makes more sense in the numbering anyway:
– NEX3/5 –> A5000
– NEX5/6 –> A6000
– NEX6/7 –> A7000
I see the A7000 as being essentially an A7(R) with an APS-C sensor. Expect humps and similar ergonomics.
If it is true that the hump enables better viewfinder optics to be used, then that is more in fitting with an enthusiast camera priced at $1000+. The NEX-6/7 EVF optics were not particularly great.
Frankly, I am a bit disappointed. While I welcome the idea of a 24mp sensor, I had been hoping for that sensor in an A7 body. I’m not sure that this camera does more than build on the A5000 proof that the rangefinder emulation isn’t dead. To move the needle, Sony needs a sophisticated APS-C camera with the kind of features in the A7. To survive, Sony must capture a greater proportion of the American mass market. The NEX-6 and 7 proved that’s not going to happen with a camera that doesn’t look like a Nikon or Canon.
If this is truly the A6000, all it will do is lower the price of NEX-6 cameras at retailers – which means all the guys who didn’t realize the needed an EVF when they bought an NEX without one will scarf up the NEX-6 inventory. It’s unlikely to attract more new users. We will soon be treated to Craig’s Lists across America even more bulging with ludicrously overpriced NEX-3 and NEX-5 models than we see today, and angry posts on the DPR forum accusing Sony of killing the resale value of their EVF-less cameras.
Today, the financial media announced that Sony is selling off their PC division because of poor sales. An NEX-6 with a 24mp sensor in the same consumer-rejected body doesn’t keep the camera group any safer from a similar fate.
Yes, I see it the same way. I do not see the A6000 as a NEX 7 replacement simply because it lacks the “professional” user interface of tri-navi which is what makes that camera great. Would love to see the 24mp w/ PDAF sensor in a A7000 sooner rather than later. Photokina means on sale just in time for XMAS shopping.
So many people are so fixated on “making sense” of the numbering. It doesn’t make sense. It won’t make sense. These aren’t the 10 commandments emblazoned on stone directly from above. Some Sony executives & marketing people pick-out random letters & numbers and consumers have to decide if it is worthwhile based on the features & price not a model number.
Yep…
I don’t see the issue. The NEX-6 was a better camera than the NEX-7. Tri-navi was flawed and a metal body is hardly a pre-requisite.
It’s actually worrying that the A6000 only “features a similar 24 Megapixel sensor” but with PDAF. Sony seriously need to improve the ISO performance. If they haven’t then the 16mp sensor from the NEX-6 would have been preferable.
For those of us who want high resolution and the ability to crop strongly, and never use high ISOs, the 24 Mpix sensor is a step in the right direction.
How is the tri-navi flawed? And how is a mode dial better than a non-labelled one, which you can use for plenty of useful functions?
It was the best thing on the Nex7, certainly not flawed.
For pro photographers that do a lot of their shooting in manual exposure mode and are looking for something small and light (to carry along with their big gear) with fast and easy manual control of the three exposure variables, tri-navi is a godsend and not having a “modern” camera with it is a disappointment.
Meh, the NEX-6 has two dials with a third essentially one click away.
NEX-6 owner here 🙂
The only bad thing is the Auto AND Auto+ instead of (at least) one Memory
Yep!!! They’ve royally effed up the appearance of one of the best looking cameras ever–N7.
Plastic Body? And i can be sure there is no better High-end APSC NEX-like camera in preparation this year? If so … where i can pre-order? I own a NEX 5 (1. Gen) and want to spend my money for the best APSC e-mount cam to replace…
Yuck! Calling something without Trinavi, Mag-Alloy-Body and AF/MF-switch a ‘successor’ to the holy NEX7 feels like substituting a Ferrari with a Toyota. If this rumor turns out to be true then shame on you, Sony!
Nowhere does the rumour say it will be without those 3 features. It merely says looks almost like the current NEX6. An extra dial + a switch can be added and it will still look very much like the old 6. Given a textured and painted coating, you probably can’t tell if it’s magnesium alloy or not without actually holding one either. If an inbuilt flash stays I bet the 3rd dial will be on the front of the grip.
BS. That is like saying that NEX-3, NEX-5, NEX-6, NEX-7, and A7 all look the same.
Well, I admire your optimism, but if it looked like a NEX-7, they wouldn’t say it looked like a NEX-6.
Then admin would say it looks just like the NEX7 not NEX6.
Yes, if this is just a lame NEX-6 update (i.e. without tri navi, all-metal body etc.), and the 7 is discontinued, it will end in tears for many.
Without the trinavi system from the nex7 and (significantly) improved corner performance/color cast using CV wide angles, I find this camera quite useless for my needs. Standing this one over, me think …
What is the photokina rumor? please help? info….
How exactly is new onsensor “phase detection pixel” different from the already used one in NEX6 and A99. Is it now similar to Canon 70D’s Dual Pixel CMOS AF?
likely not. higher resolution, but the same ospdaf pixels.
The NEX-7 had a 24MP sensor, but no PDAF. The NEX-6 had PDAF, but only 16MP. The new sensor just combines the features: 24MP with PDAF, and probably also the NEX-6’s better high-ISO performance.
I wouldn’t get my hopes up on the iso performance.
So will the A6000 have a touch screen?
5 axis stabiliser is unique on the market . Can we count on this in Sony nex ?
Doubt it. I can’t see IBIS being put into a compact body.
Idk. I think it might be possible for the APS-C cameras. But, because it’s not possible for FF ones, they won’t put it in APS-C anyway 🙂
I can see them putting IBIS into larger APS-C E-mount bodies, just not the “NEX” sized ones.
Admin said no 🙁
don’t worry people. if the name is correct, it’s clear there WILL be an a7000 too, sooner or later.
hope that my beard will not grow to my feet until we see it coming, he is only at 1 1/2 feet length now. Then, all those who say that Ibis in such a body is impossible, they can then tell me how Pana squeezed it in the Gx7. I want simply, like most of us, a better sensor and the tri navy full metal body. Not more pixels, just better low light performance than the 24 mpix chip. I doubt that A6000 will here perform much better. Improving it from 400 to 800 iso is not a progress for most of us.
So little..so laye for A mount.
And virtually no prwsence in stores.
If after all this time the A79 turns out to be just another 24mp minor upgrade that will be real bad.
Bad for you. Not so bad for others.
Exactly who is it good for (other than CaNikon companies) that there’s not much of A-mount?
I fail to see how it’s good for E-mount that they keep plunging out these toys for you to play with instead of photography tools.
The failure of A mount will guarantee the failure of E mount.
No one with any sense will buy into th E system after they abandon the A system because you will be next.
E mount alone will not support the Sony camera devision…nor will A mount alone.
Andrea, the NEX6 has a 16 Megapixel sensor, not 24, and already has phase detection pixels (at least that is what Sony states). You probably refer to the NEX7, right?
“The A6000 looks almost exactly like the current NEX-6 and features a similar 24 Megapixel sensor. But the new sensor has phase detection pixel for improvement focusing on moving object.”
So in other words it’s going to have another horrible implementation of PDAF like all the previous NEX cameras? Nothing to see here folks, move along. Another pointless body. Sony better bring out some more lenses before the competition completely swallows them up.
So based on a rumor, with hardly any information yo can decide if a camera is good or bad? Wow! Do you mind I wait with my comments till after the release?
What part of ‘I can now confirm’ did you not understand?
Absolutely nowhere does it say the PDAF is exactly the same as the NEX-6 implementation. You are assuming Sony has made zero improvements.
How soon will the A79 info come ?
How about some SAR3 rumors – we really don’t mind if they are wrong, but they usually start a lot of discussions.
Makes sense, the NEX-7 is up against the X-pro1 which also wont be released until late 2014
IMO this is not correct – the N7 mk-II will stand against [already released] XT-1. So my guess is that Sony has nothing as of NOW to offer against the significantly superior OSPDAF from Fuji, esp. in the are of shooting really fast, dynamic action & tracking !!
From S’s perspective it is better to postpone their flagship APS-C Nex-& mk-II than rush something only 1/2-baked at best now 🙁 !!
However, after over two years of waiting for AF finally worthy its name on N7, most of N7’s owners are perhaps as fed up with constant postponements as myself 🙁 !!
My guess is that Sony actually considers the a7 to be the competitor to the X-T1. I am not seeing a bright future for APS-C in the Sony camp, as far as advanced cameras and lenses go.
Absolutely agree with everything you wrote. The rub is that I had the A7 and the N7 is still superior in many ways (including build, controls and operation). So N7 owners wanting a “natural upgrade”, namely better high ISO, faster AF, the newer EVF and menus, more costumization are just… well, **cked.
“So N7 owners wanting a “natural upgrade”, namely better high ISO, faster AF, the newer EVF and menus, more costumization are just… well, **cked.”
The A7 gives you all of those, plus weather-sealing. I guess FF is just not for you.
“the N7 is still superior in many ways (including build, controls and operation”.
That, quite frankly, is absolute b*llocks!
If the A5000 was the successor to the NEX-3 line and now the A6000 follows the NEX-6/7, what will the successor of the NEX-5 be??
This naming scheme is an absolute joke…
There is no more NEX-5 line. The entire line has shifted up.
Before it used to be: NEX-3 -> NEX-5 -> NEX-6 -> NEX-7.
Now it’s: a5000 -> a6000 -> a7000 (NEX-7 ‘replacement’) -> a7.
That still makes no sense to me.
If the A6000 really is the successor of NEX-6 AND NEX-7 as Admin says, then there’s no room number-wise for a NEX-5 follow-up (except A5500, which’d plain stupid). The A7000 you mention would be akin to a (non-existant) NEX-8 or NEX-9.
There is no NEX-5 follow up. Either get the lower end NEX-3 or step up to a NEX-6.
There is no NEX-5 follow up.
Either get the lower end NEX-3 or step up to a NEX-6.
Someone at Sony is trying to kill off the NEX line. They had a big hit with the NEX 5 and NEX 7. So they’ve eliminated both, changed the name of everything similar, and dramatically raised prices for the update models of the 3 and the 6.
Don’t say that, NEX5 series is best for price/performance ratio, stupid of them if they realy leave NEX5 🙁
What part of “Sonys naming is based on cracked smoking monkeys throwing dices” don’t you get? I thought that the strategy (read the the quote before) was pretty clear when they released two FF E-mount cameras with a 7 in (yes it goes against everything they’ve done before)
Well, I understand that the a5000 is the mixed successor of nex3/nex5.
and a6000 the mixed successor of nex6/nex7.
So, we have 2 types of nex-shape cameras instead 4.
In fact, the real successors of the nex7 are the a7/a7r, it’s great but we lose the nex-shape…
Hi Admin,
About the hint for Photokina, will it be FF or APS-C? As you know, there are many of us that prefer the NEX-7 form-factor better than the A7 body style.
+1
“…A6000 looks almost exactly like the current NEX-6…
The A6000 sounds a little disappointing, but, on the other hand, we won’t really know until the actual announcement.
a5000 was a boring update.
a6000 will be probably a boring update too…
c’mon Sony, 2014 is the 4k year, no?
2014 is the year for putting the new Bionz chip in all the Sony cameras.
No, it was supposed to be THE YEAR of A-Mount.
Not everything has to be the “year of” something. 2012 was the year of a-mount (by the end of the year every camera model had been updated to SLT / EVF design, the 24mp FF sensor debuted, RX1 was released and the MI shoe debuted). 2015 will probably kick off the next big phase with the stacked sensor technology (it would be nice if the sensor tech debuts at the end of the year in the a77 successor but that’s overly optimistic). Last year and this year will bring new & interesting cameras, but there have been such a slew of bodies from Sony, it would be nice if lens & accessories takes the focus.
Sony is really good at SURPRIZING us but its usually by NOT RELEASING stuff we expect them to release.
It would be nice if they surprized us by RELEASING something we dont expect.
I dont expect a 36mp A mount C size camera this year.
I also dont expect the new stacked 54mp sensor this year.
Unfortunately I also dont expect Sony to surprise me.
Given that the big sensor upgrade is over a year out, rather than releasing an endless parade of middling cameras a better path would be for Sony to: release an updated f60 flash with the thermal problem fixed and radio control built-in, release a radio controller, update the Sony Zeiss primes with SSM (85 & 135), release an aps-c RX-1000, release a tilt-shift lens, get 3rd parties on-board with the MIS, reduce the price on the 70-200 and super telephoto primes, release a couple of budget-friendly a-mount lenses, get a Sony support system going with service centers like Canon CPS and improve existing cameras with firmware based on the slew of feature requests and reported bugs.
If they did these things they would sell many more cameras when the next generation really is ready at the end of 2015. If they want to appeal to the higher end then they need to strengthen the ecosystem.
Sony NEX 6 is my favourite body in the NEX line and I’m glad they choose to continue this model line. I’m sure plastic/metal construction is a moot point for most mirrorless buyers, performance in a small body is key.
I’m glad you love your 6, and you’re getting an upgrade. But trust me, there is a CROWD of NEX7 lovers out there who still WANT the metal body, flat top plate and TriNavi with flush wheels, and SOny has entirely abandoned those people, wich is sorry because they’re the ones ready to spend 1100 on an APS-C high end body. No choice now but to move to Fuji XT-1.
you like the flat top plate, the magnesium alloy body,the tri-navi and you already stated that you hate de EVF hump of the alpha 7/7r and you decide to move to the Fuji XT-1?????
have you seen the camera? big hump like the Alpha 7/7r, top plate full of dial far from flat which also negate the tri-navi/fn button simple combo and a plastic/rubber outer shell. It’s the opposite of the nex 7.
I guess the real reason you move to Fuji it’s more what’s come out of this camera and had nothing to do with the fact that the A6000 looks much more like the nex 6 than the 7. If so you would wait for the uname camera for photokina that Andrea report will look like the nex 7.
Anyway enjoy your trip to Fuji, it look like a very nice indeed, but I will stick with Sony since I don’t like the color from the X-trans sensor.
PS: no need to start a thread about the color rendition of the fuji/Sony cameras.
Les goûts et les couleurs…..
Or maybe she doesn’t like the X-T1 that much, but it does work for her needs and she prefers the Fuji’s approach to lenses (for example)? T’as pensé à ça?
exactly my point, the decision to move to the Fuji XT-1 is all about the X-mount system and has nothing to do with what the Alpha6000 look like. I guess that even if the Alpha6000 was a twin of the NEX 7 she would have make the move anyway because the ergonomic and finish of the Alpha 6000 won’t change the system around the E-mount.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not blindfolded Sony fanboy, and I don’t blame her for shipping board since Fuji make really nice cameras.
What I was pointing out was the claim of how she love the NEX 7 body and the contradiction of her conclusion to shift to the XT-1 without explaining the core reason.
@usonien Yep, I got your point now.
Exactly ! I STILL prefer the N7 very much. But I’m tired of waiting for better high ISO, faster AF, better EVF, and yes… better glass 😉 So i’ll just get both and see what works best for me.
I would not start a thread… as I fully agree with you !! I too like the Sony colors and rendering over the Fuji 😉
But please realise not all humps are created equal. The XT’s hardly protrudes at all from the back of the camera, and is noticeably lower, than the A7’s, that protrudes like crazy and makes the camera much bigger than it needs to. Plus, if I *have* to live with a hump, I’d rather have fast AF and the world’s most beautiful EVF to look into. Don’t get me wrong, I’m getting the Fuji to try but ONLY because I think Sony massively *ucked up. We’ve waited long enough, what makes you think the new Photokina time line is ANY more reliable than ALL the previous N7 successor rumors we’ve have before (like, half a dozen…)
@ Claire, I have exactly the same opinion as you about the Nex7. I think also that I will buy the XT1. I owned already a Fuji XE1. I did not like the green color, so I just change a bit the white balance manualy to the right (a bit more red and yellow” and the color was fantastic. That should work! 🙂 La passion de la photo 🙂
I thought I was lonely regarding Fuji X-trans color rendition since every one seems to praise it. Glad I’m not.
I understand your rant against this part of the EVF, Sony really should have made a removeable eyepiece like the NEX 6/7 to keep the back flat. But on the bright side when you put the camera on his back it’s an efficient scratchrpoof shim for the screen.
regarding the quality of the EVF I never tried the XT-1’s one, so can’t compare but the one on my Alpha 7r is actually pretty impressive.
Since Andrea stated that the last year release of the new NEX 7 was canceled for a lack of innovation I do believe that the Photokina One will be the real deal according to the timing It could be in line with the delay necessary to rethink the spec. and put it in production, but it has to be a huge shift (FF E-mount on a NEX body or a very advanced APS-C camera).
Anyway have fun with your XT-1 and I hope it will work well for you (color rendition is really big turn-off for me), If not it’s gonna be an very expensive experience (cam+lens(es)).
Sony won’t leave the segment between 800$ and 1700$ empty. Why would they? Sony could have raised the a7000 price to fill this gap but they didn’t. It means that something else is coming, higher end, that will fill this price gap.
The question is: what? At this point, I mainly want to know if this a FF camera, possibly the rumored FF rangefinder. If the 800-1700$ gap will not be filled by a FF, that means that another APS-C will arrive, possibly at Photokina.
I think that the lens roadmap will give us clues as to what is coming. For instance, if a 16-50 f/2.8 is coming, then we’ll see a high-end APS-C camera.
I meant A6000 there.
Indeed, the question is what it is. Maybe it’s a an EVF-less FF camera. And they are replacing the NEX-6 here, a much newer camera than the NEX-7. Doesn’t sound good to me.
^^^This is the correct answer. A6, same as A7 but without EVF and maybe some other limitation to keep it from eating A7 sales. (limited audio/video input-outputs)
Another option is that Sony dropped the ball on the NEX-7 successor compared to what Fuji released. The rumored a6000 specs are competing against the GX-7 and cannot compete spec-wise against the EM-1 or XT-1. I think that the lens roadmap is going to be very informative regarding Sony’s direction for the 1200$ camera (i.e., FF or APS-C).
If Sony only announces FE lenses, then I will get into another system…
Great news!
Your obvious choice is not to move to Fuji but to go on using the NEX-7, which is a good camera.
I agree DOn, the N7 is still an amazing camera I use nearly daily. But tech marches on, and I want better low light perf and faster AF, not to mention better native glass (as much as I love my legacy lenses)…
So A6000 is a NEX 6 with phase detection for ‘faster’ autofocus.. such improvement, wow. Still, I think I’ll wait till 2015 for the Hasselblad version that for sure’s gonna be so much better, wooden grip and all.
This.
I think the main improvement of the A6000 over the NEX-6 will be the new Bionz chip.
As seen in DPReview comments about SAR site, this site is known by either Sony than its competitors so they can’t release all models at once too early before summer and take the risks to see competitors releasing new challengers which can steal the buzz during summer period… What do u think?
I am not sure the summer is a big buying period for cameras, especially advanced ones.
A brilliant reply to a breathtaking question.
Fuji led with their best. It created a lot of excitement and they have a preorder hit on their hands. Sony is leading with their weakest cameras and has no hit and reading the comments here disappointing most big fans. 🙁
There is no NEX-5 follow up. Either get the lower end NEX-3 or step up to a NEX-6.
That seems to be the general strategy.
A58 replaced both A37 and A57, and A79 will replace both A65 and A77.
If admin is correct, I will continue on with my Nex 7. I like the tri-navi too much and the 6000 doesn’t sound like much of an upgrade. I will hold off on buying anymore lenses as well in case there is no direct upgrade from the Nex 7. 24 Mp is enough for me as I just want better low light performance at this level of pixel count (should be enough for anybody now). Give me the Nex7 body design(quality construction of body like A7R) with another button or 2, IBIS, better/quicker focus, and better low light performance.
Same here. But I am thinking of moving to the a7/r, Sony seems to be doing a much better job at the FF level.
Likewise for me. I have a probably futile hope for a version of the A7r without the EVF “pentaprism,” i.e. flat top like N7, which would be a beauty, at a price in between A7 and A7r but able to use the accessory EVF. The total price would be a bit more, but it would look great and be smaller and lighter when used without the EVF.
Dang!! And I just ordered the A77!! Cuz I thought the a79 is due in June. But March is way sooner than I expected.
I hope for way more info soon as I have a month to return the A77. And if the price online is merely some 200-300€ with the 1680 more expensive than currently the A77, I would gladly pay a little more if it pays off in terms of tech and quality!!
Well they may (when the rumor is right) announce it then, but availability may be just in june or july!
He wrote that it might be available in March.
Andrea, do you know where is the research on organic sensors ? Thank you 🙂
I would love to see the dial layout of the A7 incooperated into the NEX6/7 replacement… :3
That would make me stay with SONY… while now I am looking at Fuji with their lovely X-T1… or the A7 itself… so many cameras so little money X’D
Ha! I would like to see the NEX-7 interface on the a7/r 🙂
What a disappointment. Fuji, here I come. Too bad I have so many E-Mount lenses 🙁
Funny. When the Fuji X-E2 was announced, almost everyone yawned and complained about the lack of innovation. It looked just like the X-E1 but was supposed to have faster AF. Sound familiar?
The manufacturers are not in the business of revolutionizing every single camera model. Sony just shook the ground not six months ago with the A7(r) cameras and now Fuji is taking their swing with the nice X-T1 while X-Pro users moan and wail about no replacement for their flat top cam on the horizon. Sound Familiar?
A little perspective people. Andrea has told us many times that Sony has some big exciting cameras coming this year, the A6000 probably isn’t one of them but that is ok.
You are right, of course, but if we forget Fuji for a second, what we see (based on the rumor) is that Sony is replacing a much newer camera than the NEX-7, while the replacement for the NEX-7 itself is nowhere to be seen. That’s enough perspective for me to make me annoyed, especially after seeing the a7/r with their weird button placement.
the replacement of the NEX 7 was due for the 4th quarter of last year but was drop for lack of innovation according to Andrea.
if they are redefining the camera specs it could take time. Maybe The real NEX 7 replacement is that E-mount FF in a NEX form factor that we heard about in rumor. A mix of the NEX 5 body with the layout control of the NEx 7 would be great.
Anyway I don’t see that hypothetic camera come with an EVF since Sony’s engineers stated that it was impossible to fit it in the body of the Alpha7/7r and when I compared mine with my NEX 6 the sole real difference in size is the hump (see the lensrental tear down of the Alpha 7r and you will see that the EVF fill all the space available in the hump).
Well, whatever the case, Sony always comes up with something interesting, at least for my taste 🙂 I just hope what we see now is a transition period and they will become a bit more consistent over time.
Admin, can you say if the surprise is APS-C or FF?
Clearly, Sony does not want to cannibalize their A7/r sales at this moment. So, the A6000 turns out to be a really dissapointing NEX 5/6 successor – for someone who wants an updated NEX 7. So even much more waiting for an A7000 that may never arrive… darn, I’m tired of waiting.
WHat’s wrong with your Nex7? I’ve been using mine since it was released and it is still as good as it was when I got it.
I don’t own one, just waiting to buy its successor.
The TriNavi is far superior to every other interface I used, so a NEX 6 interface doesn’t help.
Right now I’m thinking about buying the good old NEX 7, but I will be missing a touchscreen, WiFi, standard hotshoe and the non-NEX software interface – for all of which I was hoping with its successor.
A7 doesn’t help either, no touchscreen, too loud a shutter, way too big.
You can’t have everything it seems, but why?
OK, that makes sense. You could always buy a used one. That would keep you going for a while and then decide.
Skip this news and just buy the em1. That’s where it’s at!!
I think I’ve figured out why Sony is playing SAR so badly stringing all of us along with a lot meaningless drivel. All the hyperbole about a visionary CEO pushing revolutionary designs over evolutionary designs or the Year of the A-mount chest-thumping was all bluff. Sony’s got nothing. Nada. Just thickly sliced baloney (I’d like to use a stronger metaphor but this is a family site 😉 ). If this were a poker game I could beat their hand with a pair of deuces.
CES was a complete flop for Sony still photography-wise. The a5000 is a dog ranking #1,962 on Amazon. Really?
CP+? Yawn. The a6000 looks like a ho-hum predictable refresh. The only revelation is they’re merging 2 cameras so its feature set is trimmed for an NEX-7 but Sony will fill in the gap with an a8000 (or whatever) in time for Christmas sales (or a bit earlier) which will be the ‘real’ refresh of the NEX-7 that might be – FINALLY – a compact APS-C body most fans might be able to rally around.
If Sony thinks I really expect earth-shaking consumer camera announcements at NAB then I’d call that an early April fool’s joke.
Oh, and while I’m stirring up everyone with my gripes here goes the typical a-mount whine that Sony really hates us. Like I predicted yesterday – I’m more reliable than the clowns at Sony playing SAR with a dribble of weak tea rumors – no big a-mount announcements tied to any shows. Sony has no interest in giving the a79 any major stage time. Just some late Friday afternoon presser at corporate. They’ll pay for free donuts to encourage some journalists to attend. 😉
Sony’s reluctance to reveal anything about the a79 and disinterest in tying it to any show convince me it’s just another predictable refresh. Nothing really to see folks, move along.
The Sony ‘revolution’ was the a7/a7R. Yep, hats off to ’em. 1st FF compact mirrorless. But it looks like Sony will be riding that pony all 2014.
But I want to thank SAR. I can predict with almost 100% confidence even before Sony gives us the daily dribble of a spec here, a spec there that Sony won’t get a dime of my money this spring.
I have very little hope their a-mount FF will be of any interest to me because it is pretty clear it’s going to be priced higher than I’m interested in going. But that’s my only hope. I don’t know when it’ll come out but I suspect in the fall and, based on Sony’s incompetent marketing (a-mounts in particular, but true of all cameras), it won’t be heavily promoted so I expect they’ll botch Photokina. When you’re on a roll Sony might as well keep the streak going.
I probably deserve any blow-back I get for all this whining but back in a day I took marketing up to a graduate level (hold an MBA if anyone cares) and Sony deserves to the added to the Harvard case book as a textbook study in marketing incompetence.
Like I said yesterday. I’m ready for the 2015 SAR rumors. I’m pretty sure 2014 is a bust. I dare Sony to really show their hand and prove me wrong but I’m confident the pot in the middle of the table is all mine! 😉
Congratulations. That degree is working for you and you clearly have it all figured out.
I won’t argue on Sony’s marketing, they dropped the ball way too often, but your whole rant is basically about some huge expectation on your part, which Sony has never promised.
“Year of the A-mount chest-thumping was all bluff. Sony’s got nothing. Nada.”
Um, it’s February 4 😉 There’s a whole lot of the year left. And heck, if they go by Chinese years, it’s like the 4th day of the year 🙂
Good save for Sony. Year of the A-Mount wasn’t tied to the Julian calendar. Maybe the Mayan one? Wait! That doesn’t turn out so well for us! 🙂
ROFLOL
The next big Sony thing is always just few months away…
The bar has been set very low for what is “revolutionary”.
The move from film to digital was revolutionary. Instant publication of images to a worldwide audience was revolutionary.
But NOTHING about the A7/R is revolutionary.
Now if you want to talk from a perspective of what is interesting, that is different.
For me, the RX-1 has been the most interesting thing to come from Sony, as far as stills photography is concerned. It, too, was not at all revolutionary.
Bottom line: Sony is loaded with hyperbole. This may be a sign that their development staff is very small-minded, with very little perspective, which would make incremental improvements seem revolutionary in their cloistered world.
Don’t be fooled, make up your own mind.
“Bottom line: Sony is loaded with hyperbole. This may be a sign that their development staff is very small-minded, with very little perspective, which would make incremental improvements seem revolutionary in their cloistered world.”
Really? Then what does that say about the other companies?
First, I was only suggesting, and don’t have the certainty that you express.
Second, I have no opinion on other companies, as I don’t follow their press releases and leaks.
In the broader sense, the most recent “revolution” has been the possibility of instant worldwide publication, imo.
You never write on Twitter – Am I right! Please answere YES or NO
#lol
SO WE ALL BUY NEX-3N for 199,90-
Great news, especially since after the NEX-3 turned into α5000 and the NEX-6/7 into α6000 there’s an increased chance the NEX-7 form factor might be saved for a Full Frame α7 and the NEX-5 comes as such an α5 here: http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-super-compact-e-mount-full-frame-camera-patent
I don’t understand:
Quote:
“A6000: The A6000 looks almost exactly like the current NEX-6 and features a similar 24 Megapixel sensor”
Quote #2:
“A hint: I know the A6000 will replace the NEX-7 but not look like it”
So does it look like the NEX-6 or not? NEX-6 and NEX-7 look pretty much the same apart from tri-nav, don’t they?
Yes, similar apart from the dials, and thats some big deal if you are into he TriNavi.
Good news is, I can stay with my Nex-7 and don’t have to stay awake for the CP+ presentation…
It seems a minor upgrade just like the A5000.
OTOH if you’ve got a winner like the NEX-6, then why change it too much ?
Fuji seems to have won regarding innovative features ?
Waiting once more ?!
How can the A6000 also be a NEX-7 successor if there is supposed to be another camera that has NEX-7’s design? That doesn’t seem to make sense.
Andrea I’m so confused. This will be the flagship APSC E mount camera? Or in september on Photokina it will be release? Thank you
Well, is Sonys is being Sony, since they switched their efforts for the FF E-mount, APS-C ones will only get minor attention. And not long from now Sony can change their mind and focus again.
It’s a disappointment. Let’s hope there will be NEX 7 replacement. If there will be, I truely believe there will be IBIS. First, it rarely take Sony so long to release a successor model for a camera, apparently Sony likes to release new cameras more than new lenses, so I guess Sony must be spending time figuring out how to put IBIS into the camera; second, all the flagship models of mirrorless competitors have IBIS, Sony really cannot afford to not having one in their flagship model; third, if NEX 6 successor has 24mp sensor, the flagship model must have more significant differentiation, IBIS makes all the sense.
That is, IF (big if) there will be NEX 7 successor
Sony does like to release more bodies than decent lenses but when there is a shift in their focus, that changes. Look at the APS-C A-mount, there were tons of bodies in a single year and then, they completely let that aside.
Since now it’s E-mount FF’s turn, maybe APS-C won’t get as much attention and moreover, if there was a NEX-7 successor that could end up bothering A7/R’s sales so unfortunately, that seems to be Sony’s philosophy.
Sony needs to hire some folks over at Fuji! 🙂
I hope not.
Fuji knows how to build brand excitement. Sony not so much. With each Sony announcement more folks talk of switching to Fuji than sticking with Sony. 🙂
I think Sony makes better camera but can’t seem to convince anyone. 🙂
If you can live with X-Trans and don’t want to move up to FF (A7), then Fuji is probably a better alternative at the moment. With the X-T1 they have built a camera that really performs in terms of operational speed and AF – something that is very important to most photographers. On top of that, they build cameras that appeal to traditional photographers where Sony takes a more modern spin on camera design for better or worse.
Personally, I’m not a huge fan of X-Trans files and as an A900 shooter (still) the A7 just makes perfect sense as a compact companion, so Sony is where it is at for me, but I don’t pretend my position is representative of the majority in any way.
If I was living only in APS-C land, then the decision to stay with SONY would be much more tenuous.
I can build my own excitement, manufacturers just need to deliver proper tools 🙂 There are two things I like about Fuji and only two – their colors and the lens lineup. Admittedly, the latter is actually enough to make me interested in the system, but Fuji has way too many shortcomings to be a real replacement for my Sony. But then, who said one should own only one system? 🙂
they have some, Fuji makes the menu software for them.
This does not sound promissing from Sony. I have been waiting for the Nex 7 successor for a couple of months now. Since then the Fuji X-E2 and now the Fuji X-T1 have come out. If Sony does not come out with an updated Nex 7, then my business, and others I suspect, will go to the Fuji X-T1. APS-C sensors are the right size for me.
jorjitop: “APS-C sensors are the right size for me.” So, all NEX are APS-C! Just like the Fuji X-T1!
Hmm, considering how good the RX1 + 35mm combo is, I wonder will Sony make a RX1 + 21mm and RX1 + 50/85mm.
I have to agree with the disappointment that this camera is not a Nex 7 successor. The Nex 6 interface is at best o.k. But using the control wheel to adjust exposure compensation or the shutter (in M) is not good enough. A real pain in the but, with too high a risk of missing the click and changing the ISO instead. The Tri Navi system is the way to go. I was ready to upgrade this year too if the new camera had a Tri Navi system (ala Nex 7). The question now is to wait or look at other systems…
For me this is a deception. First, I await a better development on the 20 mpix sensor in a NEX-7 style body. Now, we have one more “noisy” sensor in the NEX6 body. Even if it makes a stop better than the NEX-7, the sensor remains too noisy and I doubt that beyond 800 Iso, there will be something usable. No one who uses a NEX-7 and is using the tri navy system will buy this A6000 as a replacement.
So, Photokina, almost a year more to wait before we see a real successor for the NEX-7. Now, surprise you say. I just hope that we will not have a NEX-7 style body without the prism style EVF and a FF sensor. I am not interested in a FF sensor. What I look for is a sensor that is hosted in a NEX-7 or A-7 style body, in APS-C and a correct high ISO ability, at least a correct IQ until 3200 ISO. The use of the 20 mpix sensor in low end cameras without a further development in a good body with EVF is a deception.
So, nothing really new here, just useless things in some way, and no real reason to sell now a NEX-6 or a NEX-7 for this A6000. It is not a replacement for none of the both, except, maybe, if they sell the kit for 750$.
Once again my guess about the future Sony α E-Mount line:
α3000 (E-Mount for DSLR body traditionalists)
α5000 (former NEX-3 series)
α6000 (High End APS-C successing NEX-6 and also NEX-7 image quality)
α5 = http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-super-compact-e-mount-full-frame-camera-patent
α6 (Full Frame α7 in a NEX-7 body)
α7 series (already released)
α9 series (probably the ultimate E-Mount to convice A-Mount users definetly with IBIS)
I’d be extremely satisfied with that looking forward myself to an α5…
where is A-7000, that is what we wait for here, not a NEX-7 compact FF camera. We want APSC NEX-7 real upgrade that can be called one. APSC sensor, even with less pixels like the 20 mpix one, better high ISO performance up to 3200 ISO clean, A7 style menu, evntually better EVF and IBIS if possible. That would be an upgrade and reason to buy a new body. One more compact FF mirrorless is ok, but only for FF freaks.
I’d bet Admin’s photokina surprise will become something like a Full Frame α7 in a NEX-7 body named α6 and I doubt there are really many users waiting for your α7000. Since the α5000 comes with 20MP already, the α6000 won’t have less, so 24MP as the NEX-7 are expectable. You might lose one Tri-Navi-Dial, but win at least On-Sensor Phase-Detection AF plus the menue system from α5000 and α7, Bionz X and probably improved image quality – sounds like a promising successor for NEX-6 and also NEX-7 to me.
Perhaps Sony might consider an α7000 in the future, but the mirrorless market is slowing down after it’s initial hype. That’s why Sony switched down to slow evolution already, while only Full E-Mount is Sony’s option to gain new market share as long as there are no other competitors (beside very expensive Leica).
In the meantime the NEX-7 will remain an excellent camera for quite a while…
+1
It may be as simple as the NEX-6 sold far more units than the NEX-7. It was a much better balance of price, performance and quality. Therefore, why would Sony rush to replace a camera that will sell less well?
except you gotta be kind of rich to afford those FF lenses or live forever with adapters. there is a big difference on spending $3K and getting just a body plus couple of lenses and spending the same $3K and getting a body and pretty nice set of lenses – assuming Sony will launch more decent lenses for APS-C E-mount, of course.
When I read the reactions of users in all those comments, it does not seems to me that most of us wait for your A6 model, but rather for my A7000. Those who want FF are served, they are fre to get one by now for a reasonable price. I do not say that making a NEX7 style body with FF is a bad idea, but still, not everyone wants a FF camera. You can have it’s advantages quiet fats with a fast lens on an APSC sensor, but you can not get the advantages of an APSC sensor on FF, what is more in depth sharpness in closer range. To ba able to shoot in all occasions, you need at least 3 different sensor sized cameras. APSC has his fans, and do not forget that many other brands, other than Canon, Sony and Nikon, have no FF digital and most of them are not even interested to compete in that market. If Sony does not brings a high end APSC A7000 as I described it, I will leave the brand and go Fuji, and many others will do. Until now Sony was quiet inventive, what make me change from Nikon to it, but if it starts Nikon crippled camera politics, I just change the brand once more. I can use adapters and all lenses on a Fuji as well, or on a GX7.
I’m pretty sure an improved NEX-7 in a NEX-6 body only lacking one of the Tri-Navi-Dials and named α6000 should fullfill most of these users desires, you’re talking about. It might not be worth an upgrade, but it’s already much more than NEX-5R to NEX-5T have been.
Fuji has a nice APS-C Lens range and decent cameras. Personally I’m not into their retro style, but many people are. Dealbreaker for me is I’m a Photography & Video Dual User and that’s where Fuji really fails (Samsung too). Also I’m still loving to use my old Canon FD and Leica R Glass, so Sony α E-Mount focussing on Full Frame is definetely a better choice for me, but this needn’t to your choice.
That looks like a good plan.
Your a5 and a6 are basically the same with some dials/body changes. I suspect that Sony releases an a6 that is the a7 without EVF and thats the end of it.
True, since NEX-5R and NEX-6 have been technically the same already. Since their α6000 is ready to release next week, Sony’s E-Mount camera section at the moment might only build their α7 into NEX-5 and NEX-7 bodies and focus on developing an α9. And I do fear a little too Sony might not release the patented FF-NEX-5 I’m expecting as α5, but on the other hand it’s their chance to offer the smallest Full Frame Interchangeable Lens Camera, which definetly would be Sony’s style.
Beside that I’m still hoping for improved dual-usability concerning video.
My predictions for the A79 are that this camera wil be in shops BEFORE the WK Soccer 2014 that start on 12 June 2014.
Sony don’t care. They didn’t get the A99 out before the Olympics, do you really think that care about the A79 and footy?
regarding the imaging division I don’t know, but Sony is an official sponsor of the world cup in Brazil and wasn’t in the Olympic games.
I guess their main focus during the World cup is selling TV more than camera.
If anything then they’ll be pushing mirrorless. Sports photography is owned by Canon so Sony won’t bother pushing A-mount especially APS-C, they might as well try flogging a dead horse. Their A-mount marketing is practically non-existent and it isn’t going to change any time soon!
Well, all this e-mount news is finally getting to me. I think I will return my Zeiss 50mm 1.4 today. I thought I didn’t care but it’s starting to get to me. I need to see what Alpha offers next before I commit anymore money. I’ll hold onto my 135mm, a900, etc. But seriously man. For the money there just is no reason Sony doesn’t have a sub 2k FF option I can buy new. It’s annoying the hell out of me expecially reading about how great these zeiss e-mount lenses are for much less. I never shoot at 1.4 anyway and I can’t deny that fact.
For folks confused here, the surprise being hinted at Photokinia is a FF camera in NEX-7 form factor. APSC line is done at the moment.
Yes!
Keep the same form, improve the EVF and processor and stick a FF sensor in it. Boom!
Price it at $1299 and you have a market monster.
And Sony makes 0 profit per unit. Sony is trying to increase its average selling price (and margin), not decrease!
Really? Have you seen the price of the A7?
Sony always leaks silly stuff to SAR this far out like Year of the A-Mount to get us excited. A **real** APS-C replacement for NEX-7 fits better between a6000 and a7 than a cheaper FF.
Stupid typo. Meant “than” not “and”. Don’t expect cheap FF compact under a7. But Sony may do something crazy like that. Who knows? No money out of my pocket;
So the new Nex 7 is going to be the new FF E-mount?
A79 replacement. That is great news. I’ll pick-it up, only if it’s a major improvement over the last. Hopefully I can use my current grip with it.
And video capabilities ? Inputs ? Compression ? Internal Steadyshot ?
Regards
I’m just curious to know about the new FF that will be announced. Will it be a high end alternative or will it be something in between the A7 and A7R? Also, I would be interested to know about any news on new lenses for NEX line of cameras. I own a NEX-6 since November 2012. I was one of the first to buy them at the stores. I’m considering now to buy a decent prime lens for it. I do not want to spend more for the Zeiss. I’m considering buying the 35mm f1.8 from Sony. I would have liked that to be around 24 to 28mm on an APSC. Is there any rumors on any E-Mount OSS lenses from Sony in the 24 to 30mm range? I would be glad to know.
This is great place to learn and know more about Sony cameras. Keep up all the good work so far!
I expect a down market move from the A7, ala A6 without EVF. Sony can leverage all the expenses of the A7 and just slap it in a new case without that expensive EVF part. Maybe ~1600 USD retail, 1500 street price.
Then you have:
a5000 598 retail, 498 street
a6000 900 retail, 800 street? (Hard to tell if it will be more expensive than the 6 or not. If only one model to replace 6 and 7, I could see an a6000 that is more expensive than the nex-6)
a6 1600 retail, 1500 street
a7 1999 retail, 1800-1900 street
a7r 2300 retail, 2300 street
I love my a900’s.
150,000 on one and still paying the bills.
If photography paid my rent I’d be with a fully supported system. I’d want to ensure that I could get rental/replacements at short notice and enjoy full availability and compatibility with third party add-ons and software etc.
Amen!
Speaking honestly, if Sony introduced the A850/900 with live view, I would likely buy it, even at 24mp (depending of course on price). A850/900 w/live view and 36+mp, that would be just fine by me.
You’ve just described a Nikon.
Maybe, but with native A-mount.
Honestly speaking, Sony put a tri navi on all nex 3/5/6&7 they won’t feel a pinch but will increase sales. Get rid of AA filter also won’t burn their fingers. What are they thinking?
FujiFilm most be happier than ever at the moment. No competition from Sony means they will actually make traction in the next two quarters or more. Who would have thought that Sony would bow down gracefully to the competition. Oh well, competition is good for the consumers, so it’s a win for everyone!
?????
There is no competition, there are only arrangements among manufacturers. I see that you have never been involved in the “electronics” business.
Competition from Fuji … with their X-T1 ?
But that’s a completely different camera, isn’t it ?
It’s twice the (supposed) price of the a6000.
In my book the A6000/Nex-6 is a consumer camera.
That X-T1 with 1600 EURO price tag … ?
That would mean a completely different Sony camera to compare with the X-T1.
That X-T1, although incredibly nice, is a beast compared to a Nex-6 with 16-50 or 16-70 zooms.
Lenses are faster, but quite large.
You need a separate flash unit as well (although small).
IMHO the NEX-7 looks MUCH nicer and smaller than any Fuji camera.
Admin, thanks for the info but this is really a mess of a statement:
“The A6000 looks almost exactly like the current NEX-6 and features a similar 24 Megapixel sensor. But the new sensor has phase detection pixel for improvement focusing on moving object.”
(1) The NEX-6 had a 16 megapixel sensor.
(2) It already had phase detection pixels.
So what is new here? Did you perhaps want to say that the sensor is similar to the NEX-7? It’s beginning to sound like the a6000 combines the worst from both NEX-6 and NEX-7.
So where is the upgrade path for NEX 7 owners who own some lenses? The rumored FF a6 with NEX 7 form factor would be a completely new system. And I doubt anybody would swap their NEX 7 for a A6000.
your doubts are right, I would never do that, I would possibly buy one as a complement if I want FF frame, but that is not what I look for, and if it was, I would have an A7 by now.
A6000 a clear indication that Sony sees the old NEX line as a beginner camera – and that they do not plan to compete with Fuji in the APS-C sensor size for interm. / advanced users – they expect the A7/r to be Fuji’s X-series competitor –
So A6000 will most likely not have Touch LCD and some of the nice features that folks love in the Micro Four Thirds cameras – so basically they have dropped the NEX7 top model and expect the old NEX7 users to buy the A7/r and have the old NEX6 update now called A6000 to be the top model for the beginners – where users basically just use the green Auto Mode – and do not care or need any more external dials –
Very disappointing – and explains why Sony has not been releasing any new E-Mount lenses like Fast Zooms etc. as they do not expect many beginners to buy to many extra lenses –
I personally this is sad – I have not gotten the A7/r as I realize that it is just not practical as the Full Frame lenses for the AE-mount will be about the same size as the current FF lenses and as heavy – just not practical except for plastic made Primes – Sony is not doing customers any favor by offering the not so fast FE mount 70-200mm F4.0 at $3000 – Canon is not even charging that much for their L 70-200mm F2.8 – go figure –
Now only the kit lens less than $800 for the A7/r – and rumor says that there will be no zooms faster than F4.0 – and again I can just not picture my self with the small body of the A7/r with the 70-200mm F4.0 – I would much rather have a full DSLR body like the A99 with a better grip –
So in reality the dream of a FF in a small body is just not practical –
Even Fuji is only producing a 24-70mm F2.8 but not the 70-200mm F2.8 due to size and weight –
I can see most of the old NEX7 users like me flock to Fuji X-T1 or X-E2 and the Panasonic GX7 and Olympus OMD-M1 – as it seems clear that Sony is not using the A6000 to compete with the likes of the Fuji X-T1 or Olympus OMD-M1 etc
This seems to colloborate what SAR said late last year that the NEX line would move more towards the consumer end. It’s ashame since a more pro aps-c would be nice for exta reach. If this is their intentions for this line, I may switch my aps-c camera to Fuji and spend more of my money on FE lenses for the A7R.
I liked the tri-nav, but I am not enamored with it. I just wanted to see a high end aps-c model. Seems like Sony is pruning their aps-c line in E and A mount.
“The A6000 looks almost exactly like the current NEX-6 and features a similar 24 Megapixel sensor. But the new sensor has phase detection pixel for improvement focusing on moving object.”
Huh? NEX-6 has 16-mpix sensor, so 24mpix one is not similar, and it already has phase detection pixels (not “pixel”), not that they really help.
Asmin, the thing you wrote about the A79:
Did you mean the info is coming in march or the camera should start selling in march?
Can you please clarify?
Thanks
Sorry, I meant Admin, of course!
Have people only just realised that NEX is a CONSUMER range of cameras? Enthusiasts amd pros have only had 4 decent lenses and 2 decent bodies in the life of the system to choose from.
If you want Zeiss, G lenses and Decent bodies, your choice is A7(r) or another brand!
Have you just realized that 95% of all cameras made on earth are not for “pros”? And FYI, the A7 and A7r are limited, prosumer grade cameras. Crappy video, great stills, slow auto focus, slow sped shooting. Most pros aren’t going to use an A7 or A7r for regular professional work.
+1= which is why I don’t own it yet.
Yep. Even cameras with pro in the title arent aimed at pros.
Anyway, I am using the A7r for pro work…
I used the nex7 for pro work
Hell, I’ve sold images made with a Canon S70
you can use whatever you want for pro work. The person using the equipment is the most important part.
Its all about the customer service. Every-time your on a job you’ve got to be marketing yourself. Setting yourself up for the next job.
A small dinky camera doesn’t leave a good impression when clients are paying big dollars for your services. Clients expect a full body, with grip, and maybe even a flash for most jobs even if you don’t need them. Its part of the package so you get repeat customers, recommendations.
Perfectly legit. And working a whole day with tiny tools ist mostly a pain, anyway.
But I wonder if even in the pro field miniaturization may take over. There are some jobs where a tiny camera has advantages, and others where it doesn’t hurt. Irritated clients are a problem, educating them maybe cumbersome. But I see a trend to making even pro things smaller, like the new Mac Pro.
When mirrorless image quality is equal to DSLR, you have good technique and can educate your clients – I’m sure you can still find work.
Just look at mirrorless evangelists like David Hobby (Fuji) and Will Crockett (Olympus/Panasonic) who do plenty of commercial work using mirrorless systems.
These guys say that clients are often intrigued by the small gear, and often strike up conversations by explaining how good the new gear is. So don’t be so dogmatic about the tools if you’ve got the talent to use them.
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Andrea, I meant to ask – are there lenses coming next week as well or only the A6000?
Thank you.
That is the question. Nex 6 and 7 are already fine, not perfect, but very good. But there are so few lenses that keep up with the sensors, and the zeiss ones among them are way overpriced.
I wonder how good the on sensor phase detection is… I think not so good still compared to the likes of Olympus.
Might be perfect time & place to launch multi mount 4K C100 competitor.
Wait,
other e-mount cameras in April??
1st of April to be precise, that’s the day for further jokes.
I kind of like the way this thing looks- a bit like a brick without the weight. Nice indeed.
Put a full frame sensor in the NEX-6 body and I’ll buy it.
you really don’t get the point
Yeah I actually prefer the NEX-6 body with the tiltable built-in flash and EVF to the side, rather than have the EVF hump on top. Perhaps Sony will make a cheaper, full frame body in this style and call it A5?
will this a6000 bring along the “problems” of noise from the nex-7, due to the high megapixel count?
i’ve chosen the nex-6 due to the noise… but i still can send it back to amazon and wait for the new one…
Noise “problems” of the NEX7?
In this discipline there are no differences at all.
There is only one real confirmed topic with the NEX7, and that was related to the MLA.
That means there will be no NEX-5 replacement. 🙁 The A5000 is really an NEX-3, without an accessory port. I like the NEX-5 series, because it’s very small, yet capable, and you could buy a radio trigger for external flashes from ebay. I’m sure the A6000 will be a nice camera, but noticeably bigger than the NEX-5. Still excited about the motion predictive AF.
Feels like Sony is merging nex 6 and nex 5 into 6000 series. And there will be 7000 (or whatever with 3 zeros) announced in photokina, which will be truly nex 7 successor, flagship in thousand series… with highest price tag.
It is OK if they merge the touch screen of the 5T with the EVF of the 6, with the current 24mp would be the current 5/6 replacement. But sure there needs to come more for a 7 replacement. Very underwhelmed otherwise.
Damn it. If only I knew if the E-mount model is FF or not I could decide on getting the a7R or waiting for what comes next. I’m really reluctant to buy first-gen models with many flaws as my only possible body for the next at least 3 years. And of course I’d avoid the ugliness of the design if at all possible.
I meant the E-mount model coming in April.
I realize it’s not ever gonna happen, but if Sony would use the NEX-6/7 body shape with EVF, a fast and fixed/retractable 24-120 mm lens and a 1″ sensor like the RX10(0) it would really sell, even more than the RX10 !
where’s IBIS?
I’m getting tired of following all these rumors of different camera bodies. Who cares what a camera will do if it doesn’t have a decent compliment of ones. Sure we like new features and new bodies Sony, but for crying out loud, focus your energy on good lens for your systems and you’ll do much better than releasing a new body every 6 months. How about some APS-C ultra wide angle primes, some decent macro lens (30mm was too short for most), or some telephoto primes, etc. Be nice to have a compliment of HQ native lens. Waiting YEARS for lenses to be released is ridiculous.
Correction: Ones + lens
Man this cold has got the worst of me 🙂 ones = lens 🙂
I’ll say it again, This camera looks pretty good. I like its non cluttered brick like exterior. Olympus, are you listening for those OMD’s?