First image sample taken with the Mitakon 50mm f/0.95 Full Frame E-mount lens.
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Hungry for speed lenses for your A7-A7r? A Beta tester of the new Mitakon 50mm f/0.95 Full Frame E-mount lens posted the fist image samples at Fengniao (Click here). As you know Mitakon already makes the [shoplink 14656 ebay]35mm f/0.95 lens for ASP-C E-mount cameras (they are on auction here on eBay)[/shoplink]. But this will be their first Full Frame lens. Price and Release are yet not known but this is the photographer holding the lens:
And here are some image samples taken at f/0.95 aperture (Click on them to enlarge):
So what’s your first impression from this (non-full size) image samples?
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Not too shabby.
There’s a lot of doubt on the forum about the DoF of the samples. It does seem a little suspicious. In some shots if one eye is perfectly in focus, then considering the aperture, the other should be out.
The guy claims that it’s sharper wide open than the Noctilux, but then the 50/0.95 from SLRmagic is already sharper wide open than the Noctilux.
Guess we won’t be able to say anything about the lens until its debut somewhere between early Feb. and late Apr.
Can someone please give me some advice?
If I want to buy an A7r with a zoom lens and have both in-hand (i.e. especially the lens) before February 1st, what is my best option at this point?
The kit lens for the A7 seemingly isn’t being sold separately yet, and the forthcoming FE mount zoom lens(es) won’t arrive until, what, January 24th at the earliest? (Meaning I would probably not be able to get one before Feb. 1st)
It seems like my only option at present would be some alternative non-FE glass and an adapter. Right?
(I am almost exclusively a travel photographer and need a good zoom lens.)
There are quite a few of SEL2870s on ebay.
I’d go for a ‘used’ kit 28-70 as well. I’m quite happy with that lens!
Thanks Vlad & SkyB. (The SEL2870 is that A7 kit lens, right? I think so.)
I’m mostly seeing eBay listings from South Korea. Should I be suspicious of those?
I’m also seeing Henry’s in Canada selling the Zeiss SAL-2470Z zoom lens. But that’s for the A77, right? An A-mount lens that would need an adapter for the A7/A7r? Is that the equivalent of the forthcoming FE Zeiss lens (the one that’s supposed to be out on Jan. 24th)?
That would be my choice (money permitting) 🙂
A7r + LA-EA4 adapter + the Zeiss A-mount 24-70 f2.8
M.O. – yeah, although I suspect that a A7r + LA-EA4 + SAL2470Z combo will be more than just the A7r + SEL2470Z (not to mention clunkier-looking!).
Although, that said, Henry’s is selling that open-box SAL2470Z for like half-off! 😮
I see one from UK. You should be careful as for any online purchase, check the seller etc.
The 2470 Zeiss is an outstanding lens, but it will be heavy and big, especially with the adapter. It really depends on your budget and how much you want to carry. If you want cheap, it will be hard to beat the ebay price on the kit zoom.
Good points. I don’t really want to carry around a lot – my interest in the A7/A7r is mainly due to the compactness. I don’t have a lot of room in my carry-on while traveling, so small size is important. (I am a n00b when it comes to mirrorless/exchangeable lens cameras – I’ve been using small Lumix FZ series cameras in recent years to keep the size down but still have a semi-decent zoom.)
So I’m probably good with the kit lens until I’m proficient enough to move up to the Vario-Tessar.
I’m Canadian and I can safely say that you will do just fine dealing with Henry’s. It’s the first place I go. Some of their pricing is very good some not so much so be educated on pricing in advance. Other than that have no fear of dealing with them
depends on what kind of quality your looking for. The only kit lens I ever used and liked was a sony 16-50mm 2.8 and a fuji 18-55mm. If you don’t mind manual focus maybe you can get a old MF zoom that will more than likely have better image quality than the A7 kit lens.
I don’t think I’m ready for MF lenses yet Wayne 🙂
Then I guess you can get the kit. The guy from stuckincustom.com did great work with nex kit lenses so I don’t see why you cant do the same. Manual focus on E-mount is not that hard at all. Sometimes it is faster and more accurate than Af after a while.
I am not sure how well these lenses work on a a7 or if they provide enough reach for you but they are not very big and should work with the sony adapter plus they are very cheap. My A7 won’t arrive until monday so I cant test them. You can try a La-ea4 with minolta 28-85 35-70, 100-200 they are not very big and have very good image quality and will probably run you less than or about 500.00 with the adapter.
I forgot to mention the minolta 28-135mm which has dropped in price recently. I saw one in very good condition for less than 200.00 I mention it since you were considering the 24-70 which is just as much a beast as this lens as far as weight. This lens is considered legendary by many and has a better range than the 24-70. All the lenses I mentioned are also faster than the kit lens as the stop at about f 4.5 on the long end. For less than 700.00 you can get the sony AF adapter plus 4 very good minolta full frame lenses all together.
To Riot Nrrrd: I have a mint Sony FE 28-70mm Sony A7 lens for sale, and i am located in Los Angeles, Ca.
no need to order from korea.
NCamera: On eBay?
NCamera: Was this you?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Alpha-FE-28-70mm-f-3-5-5-6-OSS-Kit-Lens-for-SONY-A7-A7R-E-mount-NEX-7-6-NEW-/331088375759
If you are using a Zoom try not to use any LA-EA. Without image stablization, you need to force it to high iso when handheld. LA-EA is preferably use with big aperture lenses or on tripod.
Good to know – thanks Mart! I will probably just stick to the kit lens until I get back from my holidays and the piggybank has filled up again enough to get the Zeiss …
If you are going to use the kit lens, using the A7r possibly is a waste of money. There were some tests where this lens was used on APS sized NEX with 16MP (I believe some NEX 3) and the lens already struggled on the APS corners (!). The 16MP NEX sensor has the same pixel size as the FF 36MP so I wouldn’t expect too much.
It is a good lens for 24mp FF and very good for a kit lens but if you’re going to buy an A7r, I wouldn’t skimp on glass, it just doesn’t make sense. I’d at least wait until the Zeiss 24-70 is available (should be in a month or so).
gintony: I think you missed the “before February 1st” in my post. I am going on a long trip and wanted to buy the camera before I leave. Having a body-only with no lens won’t do me much good …
Oh Sorry.
In that case, I’d either
1. get a completely different camera with the right lenses
2. get the Zeiss 35-70 3.4 for C/Y. Wide open it’s dreamy (still sharp in the center) but stopped down to f8 it’s sharp into the extreme corners. Here are some sample images captured on the A7r. http://www.digicamclub.de/showthread.php?t=18719. As you can see, the corners are much better than you could ever expect from the native kit lens. I believe you can find better image sample from the combo if you devote some time to googeling.
gintony:
(1) I’m reading this site/post because I believe an A7 or an A7r is the right camera.
(2) I’m reading that the Zeiss 35-70 3.4 lens for C/Y is considered a manual focus lens. Waaaaaay too in over my head for that right now.
If you are also considering the A7, I’d just go with the A7 kit. It’s cheaper and if you are using the same kit lens, the results will almost be identical as the kit lens doesn’t resolve well enough for 36mp.
The A7 has other added bonuses: phase detection AF, and EFCS (electronic first curtain shutter) which means that the shutter is less noisy (I think that’s quite a big deal personally) and you get less shutter shock.
A7r and the kit lens is just fine. Some people here on SAR is a little bit lika English “Antiques Roadshow”.
The kit lens is not the best but is probably good enough and better than most old lenses.
Later buy a better FE zoom if you want 🙂
lol … for some “the kit lens is just fine” … for others “the kit lens doesn’t resolve well enough” … nothing like consensus 😀
Well, at least there was a consensus at Sony. They were probably concerned that people could complain that the R version doesn’t offer any advantage in resolution over the plain version when using the kit lens. Otherwise they’d just have offered A7r kits. And in general there’s nothing wrong with going with the manufacturers suggestion.
I have one Sony FE 28-70mm for sale on Kijiji Montreal, Canada. It should be there in a few minutes.
Shots look good, wonder how much pp was used, and how the lens handles flare & such. Also wonder what percent of shots had to be tossed for being OOF… .95 on full frame is crazy-thin DOF, with a subject 8 feet away it’s only 6 inches!
I noticed that too, Benji. Her face is in focus but her hand isn’t? Yikes! Holy shallow DOF, Batman!
Looks good.
Wow. I was expecting to pass on this lens, but those look great, at least at these sizes.
Picture of a canon shooter?
Any adapter to get this on the a99……??
so far there has not been a e-mount to A-mount adapter but that may change or may not change now that e-mount has gone full frame but I kinda suspect it may not be possible since they have adapters for everything else.
Yeah, as I though :(. Perhaps Mitakon will bring out other mounts which are adaptable since they did a m4/3 and fuji x for the 35mm version…
It’s simply impossible to adapt any lens made for shorter flange distances (all mirrorless and rangefinder lenses) on a DSLR with a longer flange distance.
That’s why there will never be any adapter from e to a-mount.
That is kinda what I thought but since I am not that good at the technical stuff I didn’t want to say something I was not sure of. Thank you for confirming.
That makes sense – good to know!
Hmm, rather soft, not so bad, about what you can expect.
A lot of colour fringing on the book!! I am sure it is a nice lens. But no way is it any good wide open like any fast lens. Would need to see it 100% to be even able to properly gauge its sharpness…
not bad, her knee and the book seams to have a lot of purple fringing
Anyone know what type of image circle the 35mm f.095 produces when used (un-cropped) on full frame?
Looks like there are some samples here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mint-Zhong-Yi-Optics-Mitakon-35mm-f-0-95-for-Sony-Nex3-5-7-a7-7R-35-f0-95-/310830097612
Google 3d Kraft. He has some examples in one of his latest articles and it’s at least bigger than APS. I forgot by how much though.
Around APS-H. But I don’t remember the source.
所有的图片均为机身直出jpg
The OP said all the photo are straight out of JPEG.
Better bokeh than this: 100/2, 85/1.4, 200/2.8, 135/1.8, 135 STF, …
any of them are 50mm lenses? Any of them are low light lenses? Apples and oranges…
all much slower and i guess four times the price
Doesn’t matter if it’s 0.95 if the images look soft. Could be same quality and origin as Noctor: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/noktor/
That lens you mention is not full frame.
You can show me all the bokeh you want, but it doesn’t make the lens FF.
Which isn’t to say these pics aren’t bad. But the price is very high IMO.
How can you say the price is high when the price hasn’t even been announced yet?
Somebody came to bash this lens. Maybe because it’s a chinese product, so it’s automatically considered a mediocre and overpriced lens, no matter what price and quality will be 😉
What is so difficult to understand in the 3 sentences of this news article? This is a FF lens with native E-mount made for the Sony A7 FF sensor.
Quick fix for color fringes, convert to B&W ! This might be a beautiful black and white portrait lens.
I’m shooting my Noctilux on an A7R. My results are a bit sharper. However, this probably isn’t an $11KUS lens and perhaps still in “beta” form. As for focus and DOF at .95, on my M9 I’m lucky to hit 50% of my shots looking good while on the A7R I estimate a 95% success rate… focusing with focus peaking is so superior to the old-style rangefinder. If these folks can bring this lens in somewhere in the $2KUS price range and the shots look as good as this and probably even better, this will be a terrific lens to add to the A7R bag.
Well, on the Chinese forum the producer is talking about pricing around us$800-1000.
There are more alternatives:
– SLR Magic Hyperprime 50mm T/0.95 (f/0.92), for about $4000 (reviews and lab tests put it almost in line with the Noctilux)
– Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f/1.1, for about $1200
The Mitakon is entering an already crowded market, it seems.
Read through the forum, the 100% crop looks fake as the depth of field is too deep.
To me the DOF in the top image looks like the f stop is really f/1.4 and they have just made their 35mm cover FF.
hmm so you really think they will just write 50mm on a 35mm lens and let us people believe it’s a 50? 😉
Haha, if their apsc 35/0.95 did cover a FF sensor is it still a 35mm or a 50mm lens?
They both look to be very good very good lens though.
I just want to more ZEISS lens . I admit I’m a ZEISS fanboy .
To: Riot Nrrrd
No that is not my ad.
i dont have an ebay listing on the lens
mines is on Los Angeles craigslist for $345.00
reachout to me from there, and we can communicate
through email.
I am a ebay user, but haven’t sold anything on there in a longtime
and dont feel like dealing with the fees, and what not.
If it’s real and with the alleged price of 7000rmb which is roughly 1160usd, it’s a very tempting lens indeed!
Creamy! Nice!
Very stellar lens indeed. Probably much superior to Zeiss FE 55/1.8
Uh, no. Sorry.
The girl reminds me in an irritating way of “Saw”…Anyone else?
Funny
The pictures look rather good and at $1160 it looks like a good buy.
It is your lucky day: http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/first-image-of-the-new-mitakon-50mm-f0-95-full-frame-e-mount-lens/
They will be selling it for $799 USD
I like the lady
Hopefully it won’t be uselessly soft wide open, like the Canon 50mm f/1.4.