Vladimir Markov posted these Zeiss Ikon digital concept pictures at Cargocollective.com. As you probably know Zeiss once designed a superb [shoplink 23713 ebay]Zeiss Ikon M-mount camera (to find here on eBay)[/shoplink]. It was a sort of cheaper Leica M alternative. I would certainly welcome Zeiss designing an E-mount FF cameras a simple and elegant as the Zeiss Ikon ZM!
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looks ok but I don’t like the shutter button
Who is he? Design doesn’t appeal to me. Maybe Philip Stark can do better?
This looks superbe ! I wish cameras companies would do more on the design aspect.
Who needs handling anyway
Despite of this is a New Year, this thing looks utterly fugly, especially for concept camera.
Are those programmable function buttons on the front?
This is the grip 🙂 I could’ve done a regular rectagular piece of fake leather, but that would’ve been boring, so I went for something less conventional.
Looks like the Nikon V1.
looks like chicken pox
LMAO on the mode dial? 😀
the camera seems to be quite unpractical. The same guy however designed his own dream camera 2 years earlier inspired by the NEX7. Looks more practial to me … So in the last 2 years he became a real “designer” and finally knows how a brick is supposed to look like, yawn…
http://cargocollective.com/iovokitangra/Snima-Iris
The dial works ok, at least based on the rough mockup I made. As a bonus, it is impossible to bump 🙂
Anyway, it is a way thousands time better than the “Hasselbleed” wood shell.
And I can’t wait to see how ugly the Hasselbleed version would be…
I don’t care what the concept looks like, this is a brilliant idea. YES! Digital Ikon, bring it on. I will buy it.
That design looks horrible.
Good to at least see some attempts to integrate modern design into cameras, successful or not. The current craze of “retro design” is getting old, and in some cases inappropriate like the Quasimodo Nikon DF. Time to move on and stop catering to old folks with whiffs of nostalgia clouding their vision : -)
Like many initial “dream objects” this Ikon Digital lacks the discipline of practicality. It looks smooth a baby’s bottom and slippery as an eel … nice on a shelf at MoMa perhaps, but I wonder how nice it’ll look after the first crash to the cement?
– Marc
From what I’ve observed, it’s not old folks who go for retro designs. I shoot a lot of film and whenever random old people ask me questions about a film camera that I might be using, they are more like “why on earth are you using some old piece of junk like that” (even if it’s a brandnew camera). Old folks who’ve gone from film to digital have the same tone religious converts have. I.e. they swear the new one is much better and the old one was crap. What I’ve noticed old people liking are lots if mechanical buttons on their cameras.
As for who likes retro, from what I’ve seen it’s mostly the younger hipster types who secretly dream about owning a Leica.
Of course these are all based on what I’ve just seen.
Yes, I am not a particular fan of retro designs. The idea here was simply to experiment with the visual and interface aspects. Consider it as a car concept – it will probably never be on the market, it is just research.
Interesting remark. ???! Do you crash test your cameras to the cement ? I dont as I would be wary of breaking them but we each have our ways. I respect your views for crashing your cameras to the cement although I doubt of its usefulness…
Marc Newson inspired design???
At equal performances I would rather buy a nicely and minimalist designed but well thought camera rather than the utilitarian only type… Even if it was more expensive I’d pay for that extra that is the design and which I value.
I could not design such a device therefore from that perspective the negative post here are a bit disappointing. I find the approach very nice and I would like to see a purist camera for manual focus lenses only without fluff and stuff like the disappointing spaceship A7 attempt. I think the time is overdue for such a camera and tech is all there. Fuji and Sony are showing it to us with focus magnification, peaking etc. pp. And the appearance of modern IKON iterations from time to time prove that there would be a market, not a mainstream market but a market for those who appreciate the Zeiss quality. Certainly a market big enough to make a profit or at least a device to support the great Zeiss lens line to its best. Thanks!
+1
I can’t design cameras either and I find every effort laudable since 99% of the camera designs we see today are finished products that still get bashed anyway.
At least you get to see someone’s ideas on potential design. I neither find the design great nor poor, since after all every design of every camera I have seen one can always find ways of “improving” them.
Good work. Thanks for sharing and keep polishing the ideas.
Thanks for the kind words! 🙂 No worries with the negative comments, it’s inevitable with any creative work. As long as there are no insults, they are feedback.
OK, I would like to know your concept of finding focus.
With on sensor focusing it would be possible to get a focus confirmation on every point on the sensor, what needs a practical button layout to move the point of focus efficiently and to apply the magnification/peaking easily. Maybe a joystick that serves as a magnification button in one? This would emphasize the EVF advantage over OVF. I see a multi-function-wheel on the back of your camera but I doubt that a multifunction wheel would serve as good as a special focusing arrangement would. Such a thing must work instinctively and certainly without fiddling and taking care not to activate unwanted other functions.
Just to make me think about and as a compliment to your work.
The thing is that I use these designs as practice and research, and give myself different objectives every time. If you look at my website, the Snima Iris was made to have as much analog functionality as possible and I didn’t even think much about the actual look. The Square Fit was made to be super simple. The Zeiss concept is entirely different, I wanted to keep it as clean of a brick as possible, only add the buttons and dials that are absolutely needed. I am simply switching the challenge each time and each challenge is very focused, hence some omissions on secondary fronts, which I simply accept, as these projects already take a lot of time, just as they are.
All of this to say that I entirely agree with your suggestion about a dedicated focus interface. Joystick would be the best choice here, I believe, as it doesn’t take much space.
Awful.
I would never buy something like that. And it doesn’t have anything to deal with “Ikon”.
Admin, any 12 year old kid can come up with their own design. Why make a post about it?
+1
It’s no rumor, no news and it’s not even slightly related to Sony.
Because it helps me. I am doing this as simple design practice and research for myself, but I still need some feedback 🙂 Surprising as it may seem, it actually takes quite some time and effort to make even this simple model, figure out what dials and buttons to include, their dimensions, space between them, etc.
Then I wish you good luck!
id rather they make a full line of lenses for Sony… there are enough cameras as it is.
what about the new ILCE A700 or whatever next NEX 7 name will be? will it be announced in 5~8 days or yes?
Vlad designed a really brilliant concept camera before, as mentioned above : http://cargocollective.com/iovokitangra/Snima-Iris
He also seems to have the patience of a saint, responding so kindly to some of the moronic postings above . 😉
It is indeed very difficult to design a camera, not to mention the modeling part .
Vlad, I like the new camera, even though it’s not for me; but I think the earlier Snima-Iris is pure genius !
I like the color/ finish and compact size. My preference would probably be for more dials not recessed into the body, with buttons on the back and more conservative styling.
We can dream can’t we?
I don’t mind the design, but it has a digital viewfinder which detracts from the Zeiss Ikon, for me. I like not having to look at a screen all the time.