The just announced QX cameras are already bestsellers at Amazon Overall Digital Camera Ranking (Click here). The ranking includes orders and preorders and the ranking changes hourly. Amazon also issued a High Demand Warning you can read on the QX homepage (Click here):
Note on Availability: Due to high demand we anticipate being unable to fulfill all customer orders with our first allocation. Product supply from Sony is very limited. Your place in line will be maintained, and we will not charge your credit card until we ship the product.
So will this kind of cameras soon replace the compact camera market?
Here are all direct links to preorders in USA/Canada:
QX100: Amazon (Click here), SonyUS (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here), SonyCA (Click here).
Soft Carrying Case for DSC-QX100 at Amazon (Click here).
Black QX10: Amazon (Click here), SonyUS (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here), SonyCA (Click here).
White QX10: Amazon (Click here), SonyUS (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
Soft Carrying Case for DSC-QX10 Amazon (Click here).
Xperia Z case with QX mount on Amazon (Click here).
Sony AX1 4K camcorder Amazon (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
AS30V action camera: Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
HDR-MV1 Music Camcorder at Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
Here are all direct links to preorders in Europe:
Black QX100 at SonyDE, Amazon.de (via DealsRunner), Amazon France (via DL), SonyUK, SonyES, SonyIT, SonyNL, SonyBE, SonyAT, SonyCH, SonySE, SonyFI, SonyNo.
Black QX10 at SonyDE, Amazon.de (via DealsRunner), Amazon France (via DL), SonyUK, SonyES, SonyIT, SonyNL, SonyBE, SonyAT, SonyCH, SonySE, SonyFI, SonyNo.
White QX10 at SonyDE, Amazon.de (via DealsRunner), Amazon France (via DL), SonyUK, SonyES, SonyIT, SonyNL, SonyBE, SonyAT, SonyCH, SonySE, SonyFI, SonyNo.
Xperia Z1 at SonyDE, SonyUK, SonyES, SonyIT, SonyNL, SonyBE, SonyAT, SonyCH, SonySE, SonyFI, SonyNo.
AS30V camera: SonyDE.
X9 4K Ultra HD-Fernseher at SonyDE, SonyUK, SonyES, SonyIT, SonyNL, SonyBE, SonyAT, SonyCH, SonySE, SonyFI, SonyNo.
4K FDR-AX1 camcorder at SonyDE, SonyUK, SonyES, SonyIT, SonyNL, SonyBE, SonyAT, SonyCH, SonySE, SonyFI, SonyNo.
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This is going to be pivotal.
This is the product line that can make or break Sony. Sure, these first two are going to be for ametuers. But just wait until 6 months from now, they release a full frame 36 megapixel QX lens-camera with a 24-85 F4 lens.
THE END of DSLR’s as well as professional photography as we know it.
How could anyone possibly deny that this will happen? Think about it. It’s certainly coming.
And the VF will suddenly become unimportant to photographers?
…and ergonomics and long zooms and wide angles and wide apertures and fast AF and….
There is a long list of reasons why dSLR is going to be around for a while!
Who would have guessed, after many heated debates of evf & ovf folks, that n(o)vf camera stands a chance of denting canon / nikon sales figures.
Whether it *Should* happen is another story…(I’m die hard OVF guy). But it IS happening. People dont care. Obviously, from these sales numbers.
Its all about “Good Enough” photos. People dont really see the thoughtful, creative professional as a necessary thing anymore.
SO SAD.
The only reason why this is a hot product is because phone cameras suck so bad, not because somehow people don’t care about ovf/evf, egronomics, zooms, fast lenses, etc, etc, etc…
If a cell phone had equivalent of QX10 with 1/3rd of its zoom built in, (that is a good lens, with a good sensor and a 24-75 FF equivalent zoom), no one would even look twice at QX100 or would try to come up with a cheap/crappy zoom lens, that’s magnetically mounted on a phone body(photojojo stuff)…
All compact digital cameras would be dead overnight.
…and hot shoes, physical controls, longer battery life.
GoPro camera with no viewfinder whatsoever is selling just good.
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SLT – A Mount – Models?? Any remaining ?? Posts say there might be.
Are there 1 or 2 SLTs left ff or crop?? We’ve got Amount glass investment here.
APS-C SLT A Mount models or crop or FF – Anything? Even just
SLT Amounts with Minor Updates to current SLT models
DATES? – Any release or ship targets dates for with these above
SLTs rumored above – Would be appreciated.
Thank You.
Photozone editors claiming beginning of the end for a-mount. Hard to argue against, if e-mount sells and a-mount does not.
This never ends, huh? A-mount is lenses. As long as these lenses are supported and can be used properly, A-mount isn’t dead.
If you see Photozone’s Sony reviews, you will see a gigantic bias against the brand itself. It is as if they are insulted that the walkman maker can challenge big brands, even when it pairs itself with a notable German brand.
Using photozone verbage: Indeed, one of the main reason I went from Canon land to Sony was indeed because of their mostly positive reviews, at least in APS-C gang.
Funny. 🙂
Returns on this thing are going to be epic.
So a QX lens with spec 24-85 f4 with full frame sensor? It will be the size of a can of cola. I can’t imagine people bringing it with them anywhere.
If the options are:
1) Large Pro DSLR body (or even mirrorless body) + 24-85 F4 lens + Smartphone (carry all the time anyway)
OR
2) Smartphone (carry with you anyway) + 24-85 F4 lens
Um….yeah. I think most people would choose option 2. Reducing bulk.
Umm, no, people would choose #1, because a 24-85 F/4 FF Lens, with Sensor, batteries, card slot, and extra processing electronics would be much bulkier than a Pro DSLR body with a 24-85 F/4 lens that doesn’t have all that crap in it. Just compare the scalability issues of WX10 scaled to QX10 versus RX100 scaled to QX100. Now take a Canon 24-70 F/4 (the closest I could find in the constant F/4 range), and scale that… The damn thing is already 93mm long and 83mm wide, which in itself is a hefty chunk wider than any phone available today (excluding phablets like Galaxy Note). On top of that it weighs 600g. Add all electronics to it and you might as well carry a telescope with you…
You’re thinking userbase will be point and shooters. Initially, yes. I’m saying, eventually, it will be Pros, too.
For tablet? That will be awesome! I wonder if this lenscam works with Samsung galaxy camera.. hahaha
That’s not true. where the 500m f4 lens.
I didnt say “the end of DSLRs” I said the “end of DSLR’s as we know it”
They’ll be around, but ONLY for very specialized uses. People will no longer think “DSLR” as “High end”
The DSLR will be viewed much the same as we currently view a medium format or large format camera.
The end of the DSLR, and the beginning of 3rd-party camera cases with built-in grip and external flash hotshoe.
Who’d want to buy this in such quantites? I can’t see any appeal in QX cameras… it’s just another device which needs to be carried around, charged seperatly and doesn’t work without a phone.
Well it obviously isn’t aimed at you then.
+1 haha!
The QX is a gadget. As is it may or not be an harbinger of the direction of ‘picture taking’. Photography is something else.
As any good gadget, it has a novelty to it not found anywhere else, it is overprice for what it does but as a cachet from both Sony and Zeiss attached to its label. The typical buyer of the ‘thing’ is someone who ‘needs’ the latest gizmo, the ‘I’m waiting for the Iphone 7’ type.
By the way the hi-end smartphone market is huge, over 5,000,000 millions Iphone 5 where sold the week-end that it debuted, over 800,000 sold daily. Let’s do the simple math. 1% means 8,000 QX a day sold, close to a quarter of a million a month, 3,000,000 a year. 2%? 3%? 5% This only for the Iphone crowd, then there are the Galaxy and others.
For Sony (this is a Sony product, not a Sony-Minolta heritage one) this is the return of Walkman time. A must have gadget with a must have name.
A 1″ type sensor with a 1.8 lens that hooks up to your phone, that can be used remotely from it, that sends images to your phone as well as saving them in its own SD card compartment giving you the advantage of sharing, there an then, an image as if it was taken with the RX100…that is overpriced?
For many this convenience is worth paying for.
It is not for photographers, per se, but for those who want a better camera in their phones (that cant have this type of IQ) to be able to share whatever they want to share instamatically. They wont think is overpriced. Its more than just a novelty, its a different experience altogether.
I disagree, i’d rather carry RX100 with me, which would take up less space, together with the phone in my pocket, than QX100 alone.
If QX100 was of a QX10 size, then it would be a completely different story.
“Photography is something else.”
>And what is it? Let’s see if you can actually define that.
“As any good gadget, it has a novelty to it not found anywhere else, it is overprice for what it does but as a cachet from both Sony and Zeiss attached to its label. The typical buyer of the ‘thing’ is someone who ‘needs’ the latest gizmo…”
>Or the buyer is someone who wants the novelty which cannot be found anywhere else. How about that? As to the price, show me the 1″ sensor 28-100 zoom wireless camera that is cheaper.
About Photography, I’m not Susan Sontag, nor Roland Barthes and certainly not Umberto Eco who has written both on photography and the cell phone. So for proper answer to your question, start with them.
Or try Vladimir Zworykin and Philo Farnsworth, the fathers of modern electronic television, and a digital camera is always an electronic sensor. The latter view on television being well known.
For most people, 99.999999% of pictures taken, photography is about capturing memories.
For one in 10,000, it is about something else, is it art? Weege certainly never considered himself an artist, but Cartier-Bresson did.
Sorry to dissapoint you, but after 50 years of taking pictures and once in a while a photography and making a living with it for years, I cannot answer your question.
The QX, like all gadget is overprice. If it takes off as I predict it will, Sony may make as much as $100 per item sold. At a modest 2,000,000 units on year one, this is quite a contribution to the bottom line. A year from now, some chinese knock off will be on the market for half price and still people will flock to the Sony. Same happened to the Walkman, Sony’s true last hit. Everyone got into the bandwagon, some claiming better spec, remember wow and flutter? Better price, still a real Walkman was a Sony, as was a real Discman later.
You see this is a unique product, this Xmas, your gadget freak cousin will have one to show, he doesn’t care about photography, nor does he cares about the spec of his Iphone, he wants to have one.
When was the last time someone (like folds on the street, not pixel peepers) wanted a Sony?
Benjamin Lowy got the cover of Time Magazine with a phone photograph.
Ed Kashi was also assigned by Time on that day.
They are both represented by the most prestigious documentary/reportage agencies in the world.
Phone photography what?
But you are not talented, this is why you need to rant here.
Let off steam accumulated through your own hypocrisy naming photography philosophers because maybe that would give you the accreditation to express your disappointment at a product that you won’t buy.
And that is the hypocrisy of it all… you won’t buy it and you try to tell everyone how wise you are in your conclusion that this module is a toy.
Of course, the names above did so much more with their lesser-gadgets than you could have imagined, for a world class publication.
I respect your 50 year photographic career but I have to say you are showing lack of creativity for the particular market this gadget is aimed at.
A lot of people laughed at Panasonic and Olympus when they said they would make 4/3 sensors for their digital future.
Who’s laughing at them now?
Well, I thought so. Of course you can’t answer my question, because photography, be it capturing memories or art (which are not necessarily two different things), doesn’t really depend on the tool.
“The QX, like all gadget is overprice.”
Repeating that won’t make it an argument.
Hendrik and I are great artists, our works are as good as our English. And we are also dumb and buy overpriced gadgets, and insult non-nerds who don’t.
Our Vlad ask for a definition of photography. Smart… Are you going to buy this new gadget Vlad? And your friend Hendrik too? Is it a party? Mommy baked a cake? I can see you having fun together and taking bad pictures of the candles…
Haha, stalker, you have some serious issues. 30 years of studying and practicing photography didn’t help you much.
Since it is impossible to reply directly to the insults of some here, let’s recap the news.
A) I don’t know what photography is. Are people snapping pictures of a concert from their cellphones ‘photographers’? Then what are we calling the guy up front taking pictures of the group, composing their shots? Picturers? Unfortunately I read and I think. I also try to understand the languages that I write in. Another subject it seems.
B) My lack of talent is acknowledged by AP and my colleagues in the press, magazine and advertising world. I will discuss a reimbursement of the money I’ve made over the last 50 years of so, starting with the $2.00 received at 13 from a now defunct Montreal morning daily.
C) Where on earth did I write that phonecell photography is bad? At my age, my memory can be falling, please show me where.
I will repeat that the QX is a gadget. As was the Polaroid. The Andy Wharol Polaroid self-portrait is worth a quarter of a million at auction. But maybe a real photo can only be taken by a Polaroid 20*24 camera.
And it’s a live saver for Sony because it reinvent something. Back in the 60’s, I bought a Phillips cassette portable recorder, that I modified to accept a pair of headphone. In a way I built a Walkman, from easy to follow instruction in a magazine. I would never have worn that in the street, yet today’s kid do.
And to understand what the QX truly is, you have to go back to the 60’s and the cassette player. Developped by Philips it had one design criteria, it had to fit in an European DIN car radio opening, the then 8 tracks tape cassette didn’t. It had to be stereo from day one and play 30 minutes per side. And Phillips made it available to all for a small royalties (not free as some Wiki says). My Phillips was the size of a book, weighted a couple of pounds, took D batteries that lasted 2 hours, but it liberated me from listening to music at a fixed place.
When Sony designed the Walkman, earbuds where much better than in the 60’s. And you could use the machine anywhere without bringing strange looks. In the bus, on the street, in bed.
Quality was horrendous compared to listening to a reel to reel machine or a fine tunetable, who cared?
And it was a Sony. Quality. And it was a must have, one of the first wide market electronic gizmo that YOU MUST HAD unless you wanted to look like a freak carrying his boombox on his shoulder.
So is the QX. It is a gadget. Now. I predict incredible sales and a change in the paradigm of what a camera is and what photography is also. As was the Walkman it is a liberator, an interface modifier and radical change of what is the relation between the photographer and the object or person that he is taking a picture of.
For Sony, it is another Walkman moment, regaining the leadership that was expected of them in Japan. Creating a desirable object that is usefull. Something that sadly they had not done in decades.
Durocher, let’s agree right now that I haven’t insulted you even once, just to clear that up. The reason I challenged you to define photography was that you cannot say “Photography is something else.” based on the type of camera. That is my point, no matter how you define it, it won’t include any specific type of camera. Hence, the QX is a very valid tool for picture taking.
“Are people snapping pictures of a concert from their cellphones ‘photographers’?”
Of course they are. The issue is rather whether they’ll capture worthy images. Unless you define ‘photographer’ as someone who is capturing only worthy images. Yet again, though, the type of camera does not matter.
it can work without a phone
Who is going to the the first to stick a OVF on this thing? They make 28mm ones, so that would work at the long end, just need to add frame lines for other zoom settings.
no it can’t. doesn’t have a screen or VF. no one will use it without pointing device or unable to control the accurate focus… don’t fool yourself.
yeah you can use it without a phone.
I guess you can use it without a phone but you won’t know what the camera is seeing. You can use it on anything that has the sony app though.
That’s great! SONY could really use a hit.
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Great news.
This is exactly what we need for Sony.
If they see they are doing well in the markets (RX100, RX100/2, RX1, NEX) then there will be motivation to drive innovative ideas forwards.
We are already getting the FF NEX so thats the road we should all be supportive of.
I agree, this is what Sony needs. They are the only innovative company in the camera business. And now they found a best-seller. It isn’t for me, but it will help them to develop new ground-breaking innovations. Watch out Canikon, soon you will be last year’s news…
Exactly what I thought, too.
“It isn’t for me, but it will help them to develop new ground-breaking innovations.”
This is the kind of thought that many here on SAR should practice more.
A mount news: not interested? thats OK, but don’t rant about the need of E mount blah blah.
Same goes the other way around.
Same goes for those who never cared about the RX series.
And especially same goes for those who come to SAR just to disrespect the readers promoting their ‘investment’ on ‘the right’ brands.
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Yes, it is good news! It is a cool concept that could give birth to another category of cameras. I just didn’t think “people” would go for it.
Now make an attachment to fit SSM and SAM lenses 😀
These cameras aren’t for me but it’s good to see Sony getting a bit more momentum in the market.
I don’t see how these cameras would ever be a replacement for enthusiast mirrorless or DSLR/DSLT cameras. So for that reason I don’t see why lack of RAW should be a problem.
By the way we heard a lot about a new JPEG engine for the Z1 smartphone announced this week and its 20mp camera. Any word on this?
I feel it is less of an alternative to smartphone but defiantly an alternative for p&s cameras. It will be good for creative photography. If the Qx line evolves into APS-C modules or FF think about the possibilities. You don’t need too worry about changing lenses. You can have more than one leans camera connected to a single smartphone or you can quickly change the connection. No need to worry about dust while changing etc.
Not for me but I hope they sell well and fill Sony’s R&D coffers 🙂
Wow, now they’re at the first, second and fourth place O_O
the good thing to me is, the white/goldish version is the latter, meaning that maybe -hopefully – these are more requested by amateurs or enthusiast wanting a nice camera in a little space, rather than girls with an glittered iPhone 😀 so I intimately hope they will give the chance to record in raw format… I think that’s the only feature these cameralenses miss to be quite a hit for everyone.
But for now, I think Sony deserves some credit for being able to come up with something like that 🙂
i just hope we can get magic lantern like features via apps for this thing.. ie: time-lapse with dawn and dusk exposures or sound and motion activated shutters or video recording for starters and finishing off with magic lantern RAW like video recording etc.. 🙂 all we need is sony to play nicely with the hackers for this thing and it could be the end game for canons rebel line in no time 😛 ie: magic lantern is the ONLY reason I brought a 550d
I thought the QX time was over? lol
Personally I’m seeing much more disadvantages than advantages compared to using an RX100, especially since you’re not carrying around that much more stuff and you don’t have to connect it to your smart phone before using it. I doubt this product could please this sort of users for longer, but additionally Sony’s opening their WiFi-API to developers also including NEX-6, 5T and 5R, so there might come many other uses in the future: http://presscentre.sony.eu//content/detail.aspx?ReleaseID=9087&NewsAreaID=2
I think the advantages are in the software and what could potentially be done with some custom apps making use of the lenses. All the way from shooting, to editing, and sharing.
That’s huge news. I was hoping they would do that, but given Sony’s history of closed ecosystems – I didn’t think it would happen.
Sony really seems to be opening up, one step at the time. Perhaps because they’ve finaly understood they have to. Now we have standard SD card cameras, with standard ISO hotshoe – and open API’s. Yay 🙂
Over here, the RX100II is 67% more expensive than the QX100. Those that can live with the disadvantages, must be liking that big price difference too.
Price is a huge advantage here for people who wants a quality camera like the RX100M2 but cant afford it. This is the next best thing for them, and a cool idea at that. Now they have something to show off to their friends. I myself would not buy a RX100 simply because of the price but the QX100 offering at much lower cost then I’ll jump on it. Having said that I do have a Sony SLT so I’m not missing anything.
Bedroom cam and spy cam. People are crazy.
I’ve decided that this is completely not for me, BUT I’m very happy to see Sony get some initial success. Now if they can maintain this interest and really generate some traction, we might see new and improved versions of this that could make more sense to more of us photographers.
The QX10 because of small size and using it for remote shooting with Wi-Fi…
ok I see some people will use it so. Also more interesting if people
can make custom app’s for these cameras. Maybe even take RAW images, but
most users I don’t believe know what RAW is.
A success? I don’t believe so, but time will tell.
Ok, end of story.
Now only RX and NEX FF news please 🙂
I think many of us may underestimate this line of product because we are familiar with a lot that goes with serious photography. More than 70% people I know, know nothing about RAW, nothing about manual exposure, or ISO. That’s huge chunk of people who don’t know much about a camera. What they want is a camera that takes quality pics. No P&S offer better quality than the RX100s, so this is a very interesting product for them.
If only the Auto mode on the RX100 didn’t drop the shutter speed to 1/30s in low light. Otherwise, I would agree that AUTO mode could work well.
This isn’t for me, BUT, if they make a model that shoots RAW and has a 50mm 1.8 lens I could be tempted. Could be a nice last resort backup in case of a camera malfunction, and a convenient “carry in your bag just in case” camera alternative.
Does anybody have a ballpark figure of the number of units one needs to sell to be #1 on amazon cameras ?
I dont think it works by numbers, i think its a sales rate. 500 per hour, or 1000 per hour, sort of ranking.
Go Sony go!
When will Apple put NFC in the iPhone?
Never. The price of being “different”.
The iPhone about to be announced will have NFC.
All this proves is that sony can not compete with Nikon and Canon in the
DSLR Market They are looking to sells camera of any kind.
Canikon and Apple are yesterday’s news, Sony is innovative and delivering tomorrow’s news!
This was intended as a reply to Zohee35, maybe I screwed up, sorry for that.
Zohee didn’t talk about Canikon – Kevin did and you replied to him. Weird browser you got there? 🙂
Does not matter as long as they are developing products that sell and that gives quality that is comparable! RX100, RX1, Nexes, QXs etc…
You’re all wrong. Its not that they CANT compete with CaNikon. They dont want to. Sony doesn’t believe in Canon’s theory. Sony doesn’t believe in Nikon’s theory.
They want to re-invent photography. Honestly, its the ONLY way to be competitive.
And if they succeed, ten years from now, you’ll think back to the good ol days when Nikon and Canon were camera companies.
Minolta tried and failed. Sony released the cheapest FF ever.. failed. Again. Canikon released cheap FF, it’s a big hit! See, nobody can compete with Canikon in DSLR business. Their users reject anything but Canikon’s product. Better to sell other products such as mirrorless and lenscam.
I wish Sony makes one with watch shape next, then I’ll buy one!
I am going to buy this. I am going to use it to create art, as usual but even better. Forgive my English.
I didn’t’ think this would be big at all. Of course it’s the same thing I thought when apple came out with the iPad. I am glad Sony may hit a home run here. They need one to become pertinent again. The more people using Sony photo gear the better for all of us.
And the WHITE QX10 is in at #8 as I write this.
Andrea, how did the beer from CNET taste?
Oh yes,did cnet send beer to admin ?
The power of QX or future FF lenscamera will be truly unlocked when they are coupled to Google Glass or other eye-based mobile gadget. Watch out, it will revolutionize camera and photography. This is the beginning of a new era. Suddenly, keeping my Leica Lenses may not be a good investment.
Sure, it’s not for me, and I do agree with the gadget/hype view of its early success. I think to the face of real world use, the interest will thin out and dwindle considerably. The whole concept seems very impractical in real life. As others have said a truly competent camera unit in a cell phone is the way to go. Larger sensor with good optics, all the sharability is already built-in.
I for one am yawning while hipsters are running to get in line, which doesn’t mean Sony will not make a fortune with the thing, maybe they will (though I doubt it).
At least it has early success and money. Sony DSLRs didn’t even have that. Sony already has made all the R&D cost in just the pre orders. That’s success by itself.
10-years development:
QX goes smaller so you can implant it instead of your left eye. Than you can get smart-phone chip in your head and we will become a lot of 7of9 running around. Than connect all smart-phone chips together in permanent network a-la facebook+skype and we will have a real borg collective.
The future is so crazy close.
And star trek nerds are really such a predictive genies! 😉
I see a ton of these selling … and then 99% being used for a week before they sit on a shelf. If I’m out in jeans and a t-shirt, where do I carry this? Not in my jeans pocket, that’s for sure. Even if I’m wearing cargo shorts/pants, do I want something like this flopping around in there, hitting whatever I walk by? I don’t even like doing that with m4/3 pancake lenses and they are smaller. Maybe, if I were a women carrying a purse everywhere.
If I were thinking about a QX-100, I can pick up a used RX100 for less or a used RX100MII for $150 more. If I were thinking about a QX-10, I can pick up any number of cheap P&S’s that are much smaller and thinner. People don’t not want P&S, because it’s a second device when your camera phone works well enough, but so is this … only bigger and less flat.
Even if these do sell initially, it will only be until equivalent flat P&S’s become smart-phone enabled, too. I see almost no long-term sustainable market for anything that isn’t flat. Once you can’t put it into a pocket, you might as well go for a system camera.
Now, I can see a DSLR or MILC (EVIL, DSLM, or whatever you call it) being made with no rear LCD or controls, but rather with a spot to click in your cellphone.
Voice command through Google Glass, that will be how you use the camera. People don’t even know you are taking photo or video. With processors in cell phone become as powerful as labtop and wireless/cloud, the possibility can get very creative.
thanks for all the updates. QX10 on order, maybe QX100 when funds allow.