Dyxum forum user DukeOfDucth (Click here) spotted the A3000 (or ILC3000) E-mount camera with the 16-70mm Zeiss lens! You can also read some specs on the card (20 megapixel and ISO 16,000). Have to say the DSLR shaped E-mount camera looks great!
Thanks Tyler for sharing the link!
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Now I feel this camera will be a hit. Even the 230K screen will not be a detterent.
It is still double the pixels per inch of a 1080p LCD monitor.
The camera looks sweet…and should help the early adaptors.
But I still love my Nex for the small size…because I choose it..to be small whenever I want with a pancake lens.
The comparison of a 1080p monitor with an EVF as if that means anything is totally nonsense, it’s like saying that’s still a good EVF because you like apple juice.
Where does it say EVF? The 230K is the LCD screen on the camera. Comparing different LCD screens by ppi is certainly valid, whether you like apple juice or not.
looks like a A-Mount only smaller.
This will be bad for NEX unfortunately. Most people still want a traditional looking camera and this is it. The low end NEX offerings will have a hard time as for many buyer the price won’t justify the upgrade when this looks and ‘feels’ like a safer option.
I don’t know what Sony are thinking. FF bodies start at $1500. The NEX line is expensive for a crop body and users don’t understand the advantages to make a premium worth is.
Sony can’t say it wants to be in the lens business because they’re terrible at releasing lenses.
I can only assume Sony know’s the high-end crop body is dead outside very professional models with extreme niche appeal. Thus this kind of camera is the ILC competitor to phones. Then people can step up to either a high-end NEX 7 type body or a cheap FF.
The market for $500+ rangefinder style crop bodies looks weak for Sony with this on offer. After all, digital bodies are essentially disposable. Build quality only has to be good enough to last 3-years.
“FF bodies start at $1500. The NEX line is expensive for a crop body”
By that logic every APS-C line would be expensive. The NEX at least has the dimensions to differentiate itself.
“Sony can’t say it wants to be in the lens business because they’re terrible at releasing lenses.”
I wouldn’t go so far as “terrible”. But, you must admit, it is tricky to release and price lenses for a system which can adapt everything out there.
“Then people can step up to either a high-end NEX 7 type body or a cheap FF.”
Or A-mount. I believe, that is precisely the point.
“The market for $500+ rangefinder style crop bodies looks weak for Sony with this on offer.”
Or it looks great and they are trying to use it to move the A-mount cameras or make NEX even more popular.
It’s not named a NEX but it is essentially still a NEX camera more than a A-Mount alpha camera. In this sense it’s hardly bad for the line. Rather it complements it with a a low cost EVF model, which has always been lacking from the NEX series. At the same time it doesn’t harm the high end models because of differences in form factor and quality.
If anything, this could have a negative impact on low end NEX because these are models that really offer less for the same price, except for a size difference. It’s too early to tell but from the images, the difference between NEX and a3k looks negligible compared to the difference between a3k and the other SLRs, still offering the size advantage of mirrorless.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
This is very good for the NEX line because people wanting the SLR body will have first hand experience with NEX lenses and the NEX ‘core idea’.
When they decide to step up from what they have, they can do so with a NEX 7 for advanced features.
Consolidation around a single mount is excellent news.
The introduction of the FF NEX will bring even more Zeiss lenses which will work on crop nex just like EF glass works on EF-s cameras.
We will then have mirrorless, dslr styled and pro-fullframe cameras – all sharing lenses and adapters.
Sony have been very creative and imaginative in filling out the system!.
I don’t get what you mean by consolidation over a single mount ? This is an E mount camera and you can’t use E mount lenses on an A mount camera.
Sony hasn’t made any sort of statement saying they will have only one mount in future or anything. In fact they have said on numerous occasions that they will be launching more A mount cameras.
I think he means that the writing is on the wall for A-mount.
Sony is saying all the right things about continuing A-mount, but the writing is clearly on the wall.
We will get further confirmation when the ILC-5000 and -7000 show up.
Gotta ebay my A mount gear before it’s too late.. hahaha.
I think Sony just thought: “Ok, so we have to eliminate the SLT mirror, we have no other choice, it is undermining the image quality, unnecessarily crippling our sensors performance. And as for the auto-focus problem, we will solve it later on the platform as technology evolves, but the lack of very fast AF is no reason not to release the platform now to establish the brand, and improve the AF later. Oh, and the A-mount lenses are just too big for today’s world, let’s just concentrate on the smaller E-mount from now on”.
🙂
Cool story.
Despite all the “DSLR Gear No Idea” ads and marketing about NEX sensor sizes, personally I think this camera is simply about Sony finally realising that the only way to sell a NEX camera to people who think a DSLR is best, is to just make a NEX camera look like a DSLR.
The token of your logic says that any SLR shaped camera is an SLR. A3000 is shaped like an SLR much like:
Olympus OM-D
Panasonic G6
Samsung whatever
This fits around that line.
I’m not quite sure I understand what you are saying, but I am certainly not claiming that any SLR-shaped camera is an SLR. My comment was worded carefully: I think this camera is about selling to people who _think_ a DSLR is best, and I think the only way to do that is to just make a NEX camera _look like_ a DSLR.
Sony made a patent sharing agreement with the manufacturer of the Nikon V1/J1 sensor which currently has the fastest on-sensor PDAF implmentation. Expect a boost in AF performance to rival dslrs soon!.
The 1 series cameras work best with only native Nikon 1 lenses. With the adapter the AF becomes tedious and slow !
I mean with the adapter Nikon DSLR lenses still have slow AF performance. And the adapter only adds another point of failure to the system. Not a very nice proposition to most people.
What does the adapter should have to do with a new AF system designed for Sony cameras and Sony lenses?
They will use the Nikon AF tech, but tailored for the Sony system.
It will work like a charm.
I think PDAF works well with any lens design. The only time native mirrorless lens works faster than adapted lens is when the body uses CDAF. With CDAF, the lens focus must be moved 2-3 point to approximate focus. PDAF on the other hand doesn’t need to move anything while calculating focus distance, it moves focusing group only when the focus is already acquired. As for the V1, maybe its motor is not powerful enough to move the focusing ring as fast as DSLR. But not sure about that, I read that it uses the same type of battery as its big brother.
That 16-10 looks great, a comfortable size for the NEX. If it performs like the 16-80 ZA, a definite buy.
That’d be 16-70, obviously.
It’s a Vario TESSAR, not a Vario SONNAR like the ZA 16-80. This implies a simpler and hopefully (much) cheaper lens. The Vario TESSAR designation is used mostly for compact cameras and videocams, not for exchangeable lenses for dslr-type cameras. A $300-400 price tag would be my guesstimate, and don’t expect stellar performance.
Its branded Zeiss ! Anything less than $1000 will be big surprise.
I am not surprise that DXO or some review site will rate it having almost same sharpness as the 18-55mm or 18-200mm and will find a slight difference if you super super pixel peep…
+1
I’m disappointed :
A vario-Tessar… So sad
A f4 … So slow
And this might the high quality standard zoom lens that Sony have developed since 2011 ???????
Wow, you are right, I didn’t even see the designation in my excitement.
With tags attached, looks like this camera is going to ship immediately (within a week) after announcement.
thats a very good sign indeed 😀
Lens mount looks plastic, could be wrong but oh dear. Actually I think that a budget NEX will have absolutely no impact on the market. All the action (and lenses) are on A mount.
time will tell, but i think people who don’t mind the EVF would like this for the smaller size with the dslr grip
Sales of A mount cameras are really low. NEX is not great, but doing much better than A.
Oh, good to know. Can we see those numbers?
Yet another misleading perception of the photographic world shaped in the mind of a stubborn customer.
Yes, can we see those numbers, and the quotes from a reliable source?
Brilliant ! Hope you have all the sales figures to back up your statement. 🙂
Nex cameras are among the most seen around the neck of people in the capitals of the world and the best touristic spots.
Alpha cameras are also seen much more than they were previous a900 and SLT.
Before that, you could hardly see any Sony Dslr on the street of the world. Since the nex and SLT you see a lot of Sony cameras that are not just P&S.
Why do you say the mount is plastic? What little I can see of it has a metalic shine. I know plenty of cheap lenses have plastic mounts but are there any camera bodies that have this? I can’t believe Sony would do this as it would be a very stupid idea (particularly considering the size and probable weight of the new 18-105 G) and, anyway, the mounts are a standard part on all NEX’s and so the unit cost will be very low
Having said that I don’t like the concept of this camera and am concerned that it is pushing NEX in an undesireable direction
Yep, there is a camera with a plastic mount and it is made by Sony – the A58.
David Kilpatrick on A58:
“It’s by far the worst Alpha body ever manufactured, and the first to have a plastic lens mount where machined metal is normally used. The whole physical feel of this Thai-made camera is inferior; it even has a slightly rough external texture which picks up handling marks the moment a store customer (or cynical on-line orderer intending to try, but return for a refund) so much as touches it.”
http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2013/06/05/2020-vision-sony-alpha-58-review/
Wow, I never realised… thanks for the info!
How can you fit something like a 70-200/2.8 to a plastic mount without worrying that it will drop off?
What were they thinking when they released that camera?
This is a welcome addition to the NEX line. Finally a body to hold well with bigger hands.
Now what the E system still misses is pro-grade lenses, rather than the miniaturized plastic stuff they are offering.
Dare to compare anything Sony E with Canon L?
What I am still waiting for is the Sony E full frame to use some vintage lenses. For anything else I am pretty happy with my EOS 6D.
“Finally a body to hold well with bigger hands.
Now what the E system still misses is pro-grade lenses, rather than the miniaturized plastic stuff they are offering”
Well, there is A-mount for all of that.
“Dare to compare anything Sony E with Canon L?”
Sure, I do.
I wouldn’t call the Zeiss lenses ‘miniaturized plastic stuff’ … And Sony E got plenty of them – 12, 24, 32, 50, 16-70mm and pretty sure more soon.
It’s been done, idiot:
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/index.php
Pick any APS-C for Canon vs any APS-C on Sony.
Do it. Come back to us when you have done so.
I thought this ‘Icki’ phenomena was a sarcastic character that admin Andrea recently told to go away and never come back. Apparently he (she? it?) being back, likes SAR news feeds after all.
Exciting day. I prever this body to the NEX ones. Very promising for the FF. I’ll keep my NEX and add to it the FF version if the price is reasonable.
My guess is we will have to wait till Photokina 2014 to get the A9000. The NEX-9 seems to be first on their list.
But I’m in your boat. The new body size is a much better match for all that FF-SLR lenses around. Add IBIS with the possibility to dial in the focal length and even longer lenses will be more useful than ever on an E-Mount body.
With OSPDAF and a motorized adapter for all those wonderful A-Mount lenses the camera would have all I could dream of at the moment.
Oh wait! Configurable ISO and the possibility to set the peaking level via wheel are very high on my wish list too. Would even be nice to see it in the next NEX-7 firmware update.
Ima not gonna upgrade. Ima not gonna upgrade. *drool*drool*drool
Camera looks like it could be a good addition to the line, but again, more cameras have come out then lenses. Maybe that is the finance people telling Sony that is where the money is, but until there are more lenses (more good quality lenses) then I will continue on with my other system. As far as the full frame NEX, everyone is talking about it costing 3,000.00, or twice the price of a Canon 6D. Hardly affordable to the vast majority of people clamoring for a full frame NEX, It will be another niche camera for the well heeled.
i’m looking forward to hearing more about this camera as it released. personally i prefer the rangefinder style of the NEX better and i’m waiting for NEX FF
I hope this doesn’t mean that IBIS will be reserved for the higher end ILC E mount cameras and not be fitted into the NEX though, i really wish FF NEX has IBIS 😀
A 5-points IBIS will be more difficult on a full frame sensor than on a m4/3 sensor or APS-C sensor.
One disadvantage of IBIS is the need to send the camera to the camera service center for sensor cleaning to avoid causing problems arising from cleaning the sensor mounted on an IBIS.
i agree that the FF IBIS would be more difficult to implement, but i wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t already have some in production for a FF sensor for the rumored IBIS FF NEX(or at least a couple of prototypes around)
fingers crossed 😀
It’s not actually hard to fix the problem of cleaning IBIS sensors. They just need a parked mode.
True, but it could be very fragile and prone to get broken(pure speculation).
I agree with you. A viewfinder on the left side of a camera is better located for viewing with right eye. Unfortunately many people the viewfinder above the lens where it had to be located in the old SLR times. There is no reason for it now just the customer’s habits.
Jan
Sorry wrong link had to be above.
Jan
Hmmmm … why the rather odd ISO 16000 setting?
the nex 7 max is 16000, maybe it’ll be 25600 with boost? its not long till its announced anyway 😀 all will be revealed
It won’t have a boost.
It’s just like the NEX-3, it had the same sensor as the NEX-5 but being a low-end product it was limited to a lower high ISO, ISO 16000 is already with boost. NEX-7 had a lower ISO 16000 probably due to the pixel density, the 24MP sensor couldn’t perform like the 16MP one.
Are there any reliable rumors about the AF system? Something like FAST from Olympus?
(Any rumors about a firmwareupdate for oder NEX with faster AF)
A balanced form factor with the SEL18200. Cant wait, im all about the IQ. My NEX7 is still my fave NEX. im going to wait out what do they have to offer for the A-Mount. Good job Sony.
A detail : the lens hood looks much more cheaper than the one on the Zeiss 24mm 1.8.
It’s a Vario TESSAR lens. A cheaper class of lens.
Yeah sadly ..
And 1000€ for this kit lens is just a crazy price !!
Definitively, it’s not the blue color of the logo, which can just justify such highest price…
So, basically what it looks like we have here is the overall body style of the HX300 (similar mode and shutter button configuration) and HX200 (the more flat “Sony” label in front of the viewfinder); the E-mount of the NEX series; the viewfinder and LCD from the SLT-A37; and the 20 mp APS-C sensor from the SLT-A58. Not a bad entry-level combination, especially if it comes in under $500 with kit lens.
It also looks like the ring around the shutter button is a zoom toggle like that on the HX-series and the NEX-3N. If so, that’s an interesting choice if the kit lens is indeed the SEL1855 which is not a power zoom.
Oh, and it looks like it has a full accessory shoe in addition to stereo mics up top.
I could be wrong on the shutter zoom toggle… the A58 has a similar toggle for On-Off in that position.
But still this is a very interesting entry. Looks like this will be the replacement for the entry-level A37, but now moving to mirrorless tech E-mount instead of A-mount SLT.
I’d also expect an eventual a5000 or a7000 to add PDAF to the sensor, as with the NEX-5R and NEX-6.
The zoom toggle is more than likely for the E-16-50 compact power zoom lens, the same as on the NEX-3n. This in fact may be the kit lens with the a-3000. Either that or the iconic E 18-55.
actually it is not A58 sensor.It is a new 20mp sensor.
Marketing (and rumor) say it’s a new sensor, that’s all.
wow,it has hotshoe!
Time to upgrade from Nex-f3
So what I am looking at is a $300 camera with a $1000 lens. That is a bit odd…
Any hint of AF improvement for that model ? Buyers of DSLR form factor are gonna expect DSLR AF performance. How does Sony plan to deal with that ?? (considering PDAF in the 6 is still wayyyy slower than any DSLR).
OK. So there are 10-18 and 16-70 f/4 lenses. I wonder what’s NEXt. Maybe 50-150mm f/4 OIS lens?
Why is he holding it this funny way?
Trying to view the low resolution lcd.
Now let’s see it will have mic in or not.
Will A3000 going to have new menu and JPEG system?
A $1k standard zoom won’t appeal to many buyers of a $400 entry level camera, so this cobo will be a rare sight…
I’d expect the ILC-3000 to be of similar (cheap) plasticky quality body (and plastic mount) as the A58.
Overall, Sony seems confused if not desperate, not being able to make any serious new inroads to the camera market while general camera sales are collapsing. Dslr didn’t work. SLT didn’t work. So now there’s a new mix called ILC. How will this appeal to the average first-time high school kid buyer, dreaming of a Canon dslr or (if he’s a little advanced) maybe even a Nikon dslr? Will it appeal at all?
I want to see the back of this thing.
Alpha menu = hit. NEX menu = meh.
I think I see a touch of a metal lens mount. Surely, on this model, it should be plastic… right?
No that is certainly a metal mount, as all E-mount lenses (NEX) have been, right from the start. This camera is essentially a NEX mirrorless camera inside a cheap SLR-styled body with a cheap 230K screen. Up against the Panasonic G6 and the Canon Rebel 100D only at a much lower price, Sony should sell a million of the darned things.
And NEX owners who need a second body that comes with an EVF and a 20 mp sensor will be buying a lot of them.
Looks very interesting. I tried to scan the barely visible QR-Code from the orange label with an QR-scanner but (like I thought) it’s to low quality to work. Too bad! Think the complete information about ILC-3000 is already online. We only need a very high res photo of the QR-Code!
My initial impression is that it looks THICK. As in DSLR thickness. Hopefully it’s just the angle in the photo that looks this way though.
Why didn’t the make it a bit thinner like the NEX bodies? Look at the Samsung NX-20: great DSLR-style ergonomics but much thinner. Or the Olympus OM-D for that matter.
This ugly thing makes me sad.
Another bad day for good design.
I’m not convinced that hoods make sense on high ratio zooms. Anyway, Camera looks great!.
Since both lenses already shown have OSS, I conclude this camera doesn’t have Steady Shot, right? That’s too bad, with the SLR-like body I’m sure it has the necessary room for that! Anyway, let’s wait and see the features it has before any further comment…!
… Lucas
in body stabilization probably saved for higher end models, this is quite the cheapie
Please note that this is not a NEX model, it’s an A/ILC model.
Nex is no in-body stabilization. A (and ILC apparently) do incklude in-body stabilization.
If ILC (as it seems) is gradually replacing A (no more mirrors, A-lenses via E-adapter only), it makes a lot of sense to see in-body stabilization in ILC cameras.
You are making quite a few assumptions there.
If this camera does not have IBIS it will reduce not be a universal camera and will not appeal to users if other cameras.
Personally I would only be looking at a higher end version when it comes out.
I am hoping that the higher end e mount cameras will have IBIS.
And 80MP sensor, Barry.
Good thing about thick body is the sensor won’t overheat as fast as it is on NEX body
Barry is right, no IBIS = yawn
Might as well buy a Canon, least you actually have a lens range to pick from.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/9583185983_7e0387877c_b.jpg
Please note that this lens is a E ZA 16-70 Vario TESSAR design, whereas the well-known ZA 16-80 $1k lens is a Vario SONNAR design.
The Tessar desination is used by Zeiss for simpler, less expensive designs, typically for compact cameras. Not for dslrs.
Seeing that this new lens is a Tessar design, I willnowexpect it to be considerably cheaper than the Zeiss lenses we have seen so far for A and E mount. $300-400 would be my guesstimate….
That would make sense.
A kit lens for a $300 camera would need to inexpensive.
We might have to level our expectations though, to a slightly-less-than-stellar performance from this lens.
At least it will be a lot better than the existing 18-55 and 16-50 PZ, right?
If so, i’ll get this lens, assuming the price is cheaper than ZA 16-80 vario sonnar
Don’t expect too much !
I’m pretty sure it will give slightly same performance than the sel18-200 in the same range …
from official Zeiss web page
Vario-Tessar vs. Vario-Sonnar ? which one is better?
It is not a matter of one being better. They are just different.
Vario-Tessar makes for smaller lenses (because of smaller zoom ratios and lower speed, like f/3.5). Vario-Sonnar is bigger and enables higher zoom ratios -like 6x, 12x and
beyond- at higher speeds – like f/2.0.
Resulting image quality of either zoom lens version is on the same high Carl Zeiss level.
no one said this would be kit lens though, i bet its just giving the new products to a photographer (new lens and body) and then sony will release a video later saying how they gave it to someone to test it out in the wild and then use those photos they took as promo
they did the exact same thing with the NEX 6 and 16-50 PZ lens
I would like to know what the screen is like on the rear panel. No indication yet. Is it a rotating, articulating screen with an axis connection like on the Alpha series? Or, does it adhere to the NEX type of screens which merely flip upwards and downwards.
looks good for emount not sure how i feel about the 16-70z (for sure its not the kit lens )
seems a bit sily to put a 1k$ projected lens on a 300$ body
this body tho woudl at least look good with the bigger lens that are out or in the works
neat thing is the speed booster shoudl work jsut fine on this and that could be lots of fun
Again: Cute!!!
This is a “pre-market” trial camera, to test out the feedback and as a early stage designed of the “next real new design camera”
Which is a more professional/prosumer e mount mirrorless with dslr shape.
Sony usually do this
ok…I need mic in and 460,000 LCD please..
bennywong wrote: ““next real new design camera […] is a more professional/prosumer e mount mirrorless with dslr shape.”
To replace the Alpha line…
Andrea can we expect some nex-7x news soon??
If this hits the US market at $300 then it is potentially a game changer. Sony is going for the win.
It’s interesting that as Sony releases this APS-C mirrorless that companies like Olympus and Panasonic are raising their prices on their flagship m4/3 models. Why I don’t know. In fact Canon and Nikon are also taking pains to reduce pricing on dslrs, esp. FF models. So it’s an interesting dynamic: cameras with bigger sensors are getting cheaper, while m4/3 is getting more expensive.
If Sony can deliver this to market at US$300, then there is no reason why Oly needs to charge $1500 for its upcoming new m4/3 camera with smaller sensor. I am sure the Oly will have some nice features this Sony camera will not have, but the magnitude of the cost differential does not seem to be justified.
How bout the price difference between the 1dx and the 6d? Are the features justified?
@true homer
The E-M1 is rumored to have the same old sensor as the E-M5/E-P5/E-PL5 etc which is behind the last gen 16mp Sony APS sensor.I will be surprised if they have genuinely solved the problems of fast AF with the FT glass and any kind of decent C-AF or tracking. So you get the exacr same image quality as the E-M5 which already has the 5-axis IS, weathered body etc if i owned an E-M5 I do not see anything that would make me want an E-M1 $1500 is lot to pay for a better EVF
Comparing this A3000 to the E-M1 is comparing an EOS 1100D to the EOS 7D. Makes no sense. This A3000 will be just a NEX-3 with EVF in a different package. Not bad, Panasonic does it successfully with the Gx series. But is isn’t going to be a game changer or something like that.
When I saw this body, the first good thing come up in my mind is that I can have a RIGHT camera body to use with my E18-200 and E1016. The reality is E mount lens can never be small, especially for large aperture zoom. Sony with this new line of E mount body, designers can be relieved from the burden of “must be small to match small nex body”
IS this really “mirrorless” ???
cause the body is rather thick (a37 thick) i expected a lot slimmer body if mirrorless (you can put a mirror in that body)
would not be ironic that this new camera had SLT mirror… lol
maybe, its the roumored hybrid camera!
sony say, well, NEX AF sucks (the ones with OSPDAF too, litlle less but still suck)
we cant put a mirror in a NEX (or already do with the slt adapter)
but we CAN make a SLT that can take E mount lenses… NOW, that will be a surprise!!!
A rather stupid surprise. Why would they trade their better alpha minolta arsenal for the crappy nex?
Some of you guys and girls, are very tiring; never happy, always moaning: if there isn’t one thing there is the other…come on!; This is a rumour site, lets wait to final REALITY and then judge with clever.
For my part, I like the ILC-3000 and like the new objetives for what we know now. The two quality zooms are exactly what NEX needs: zooms with quality without the need for a ¿pushcart? (sorry for my english). And the ILC is a clever move: the NEX system is not only a miniaturized system: is a full-digital system with a different handling…
Sony offers a little DSLRized NEX? ¡OK! I like to have one when it comes to ILC-5000 or 7000 or whatever.
I’m agree, but the problem is that there is NO high quality lens for e mount.
I don’t need a power zoom like the G which is for video..
And what can we expect form a vario-TESSAR which is obviously f4 ….
So, since 2011, and the first roadmap, I missed having a HIGH quality standard zoom lens for my Nex-7 …
Looking for HIGH quality, huh? Get rid of zooms, buy primes. A LOT of those on the market, that will all blow all zooms out of the game.
I agree.
I have the sel 50mm, Zeiss 24mm and 12mm, they are all very good, but I need for versatility afast zoom. My sel18-200 is not fast enough in low light condition when shooting people …
Looks an interesting camera, that will be sold like hot cakes. Good competitor to the Canon 100D (is Nikon going to launch a low-cost DSLR too?)
I will not buy it (already have NEX-5n & 6), but wait for a higher level ILC or the FF-NEX.
A couple of E-mount f2.8 quality zooms (24-70 & 70-210) would be highly appreciated too.
If Gustav (the man holding the camera) says it is good then it probably is good. How well it will sell is another story…
Does this body include a lunch box or has one to carry a lot of air inside it?
A TOY sorry Sony but is this the real size?
some people would to have cut their fingers away to hold the body or is thus thing for kids… seriosly: for what market or paying people was this designed? SONY: you have too many sizes etc in your line but for whitch customers?
Is it possible to use this 16-70 zeiss lens on my a 77
Nope. Can’t happen. Alpha bodies are too thick for E-mount lenses.