Within the next days Sony will announce the NEX-5T. But don’t get too excited about it. This is basically just a NEX-5R with some minor new features. It has NFC, FN-button control like on SLT cameras, new Menu Interface and a couple of more things.
The real major news will be the new 16-70mm High Quality zoom. I should get the final specs soon. Stay tuned!
P.S.: I work damn hard on the NEX-FF rumor. And I made some progress I will be able to share soon too! Personal note: My vacation was no vacation because of that 🙁
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I remember you saying you were going on vacation….and all the good info just kept coming in!
But what does “vacation” mean when your job is running a website from a computer?
vacation = no need to carry a laptop all day.
No new autofocus system? :/
We can all hold our breaths for the FF NEX rumours.
Do not sacrifice your time and holidays for something we are already getting for free.
We appreciate the effort but know when to take a break.
To be honest, it’s me that cannot hold the breathe. I am that(!) close to get all info now! I alreayd got reliable FF lens info. And all I can say is WOW. Now trying to double check the info but I am 99% sure it is correct 🙂
You are killing us with this excitement! 🙂 Can’t wait to see your post on it!!!
just 1 single Question, will that Len blow CZ 24/1.8 away?!
Yes, that lens will blow every single lens in existence away. It’s over 9000, and filled with laser sharks.
new menu alone is worthy of a upgrade (if it is good)
I don’t understand why they didn’t use the tabbed settings menus of the DSLRs in the first place. (Just one example of the strange menus)
Zeiss 16-70mm?
G not Zeiss, and f/3.5-5.6.
“FN-button control like on SLT cameras, new Menu Interface”.
Actually, a lot of people might get very excited by that.
Saying that, you can’t beat Quick-navi via the Fn button on the NEX-6 in conjunction with using the EVF. I wonder if Quick-navi is available when you attach an EVF to the NEX-5T (did they offer it on the 5R?).
Andrea, any news on whether the 5T will have the new MIS hotshoe instead of the Smart Accessory Terminal?
All Sony cameras releases (with a hotshot) should have the multiport shoe – certainly all alphas & RXs.
Thank you so much for giving your time Andrea !
Uhhhhh new menu interface.
Hear hear, this is good news.
Best thing ever would be to spread it down all the way to the good old nex3/5
What happened to the dslrbstyled nex and the nex7.
Big Thank you Andrea
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What does “High Quality 16-70mm” mean?
Sharp f/2.8-4.0 with Image Stabilisation?
Sharp f/2.8-4.0 without Image Stabilisation?
Sharp f/3.5-5.6 with Image Stabilisation?
I would only call the first one an “High Quality” as the other 2 options really have some downsides!
A simpler question Andrea: the zoom is a G lens or Zeiss? Because if it is Zeiss I probably can’t afford it in the near future… 🙁
I am waiting for the final specs now. But I have been told it’s rather epxensive!
So that’s the “High Performance Standard Zoom” from the Sony roadmap?
Do you know if the “Mid-magnification Zoom” is still planned for 2013?
I find it somehow confusing that one rumor was about Sony making NEX the entry level camera and now they are said to do more expensive lenses. Well, what ever. If the new 7 will appear and focus as fast as the OMD and will be sold with this lens as a weather sealed kit – I am probably sold. A christmas present for my self.
I hope it’s a set f2.8 lens! Need that for video, can’t work with variable speeds…
We’re talking Sony here. Expensive isn’t much of a clue 😉
Thank you Andrea! I really appreciate your hard work 🙂
Maybe all 2.8 (with or without OSS that should be high quality).
Missing IS is compensated by pushing up speed and that is compensated by pushing up ISO
the SS in my a77 and a99 usally gave me 3,5-4,5 f-stops, so that means i loose 4 f-stops which is a loose in image Quality.
If i shoot ISO 800 or 12’800 makes a _huge_ difference. I dont need a lense which can give me only on a tripod and at good weather, good results
after reading more posts the lens is expensive, for example $ 800, can sony sell it as an entry level kit lens with the nex 3 and 5 , there is a demand for such lenses but they are for the higher cameras next 7 and ff. I would prefer your second option for smaller, lighter lens without stabilizer as we can expect the new nexes to have built in camera ibis , sony now has the Olympus patents, let them implement it in these compacts.
There might be a lot of disappointed people when this and the NEX 7 replacement, when it comes next year, isn’t released with IBIS.
I hope for 2.8-4.0 with OIS, too. That would be a great standard to carry all day.
whether nex-5T has a inner flash?
capacitive touchscreen?
I’m actually slightly disappointed to hear this. I have the Nex-5N and it has served me well since it launched over one and half years ago. I would find it hard to upgrade if, two generations later, the 5T doesn’t have a 1) new sensor, 2) PDAF like the NEX6. Things like extra buttons, potentially a flash, new menus are great, but I don’t think that is worth spending $650+ to upgrade it. Sounds like I’ll be sticking to the 5N for another generation..
I actually just remembered that the NEX 5R does have PDAF, so I stand corrected!
Yes, NEX-5R and NEX-6 are technically the same cameras in different bodies. They also come with the same user manual. Anyway new user interface sounds interesting, since that’s the the second worst after the user manuals since the introduction of NEX-cameras.
You shouldn’t get too excited about PDAF, in real life it makes close to *zero* difference 🙁
I totally agree. I even think the on-sensor PDAF is a HOAX, a pure fake. I looked on the sensor with a loupe and did not see anything that could be PDAF sensors, no pattern of little dots or so. And the af is not faster than on my NEX5N.
If PDAF is purely pixels with an AF function rather than traditional image gathering, there is nothing to say they would look any different.
Nope, PDAF isn’t necessarily much faster, but the thing I noticed is that there is far less propensity for the focus to ‘breathe’ while acquiring a lock.
Besides, weren’t speed increases of PDAF supposed to be limited to AF-C mode?
I’ve got the nex5r, and I am very happy about the 2nd dial for manual mode.
Only thing, when i look at the new GX7 from panasonic, thicker than the NEX but has in body stabilisation.
The GX7 have a thicker body + smaller Sensor.
With APS-C even the size of GX7 would not be enough to make an sufficent Image Stabilisation.
Probably.
Let’s see how Sony-Oly hopefully deal with that in the nex7n and Nex(9?)FF.
I dont know why i have to say this that often in discussions about NEX but
Even Sony is not able to break the law of physics.
Wifi too if you’re into that 😉
I too have the 5n, and though it’s easy to get caught up in all these rumors and look for almost any reason to upgrade as I find myself contemplating often, every now and then I look at my camera and think, you know what, I love this little thing, why would I think of replacing it?! (I don’t have the money to just buy a second body right now so that option is outta the question)
It really has served me well as you it has for you. The things that would make me upgrade though are relatively minor such as larger grip, two actual control dials (I hate the current implementation on the 5r and 6 where all they’ve done is move the rear dial’s function to the top dial in any mode other than manual), and integrated viewfinder as I’m always afraid my external viewfinder is vulnerable to damage as I’m walking around with it around my neck.
I’ve been particularly interested in the NEX7 rumors as that camera seems to be the obvious update for me since it has the control, larger grip, and int. viewfinder I’d want. But often, I also like to just stick the 16mm pancake lens on, remove the viewfinder, and throw it in my messenger bag whenever I go out and it’s as if I have one of those new point and shoots with an APSC sensor! Take that cell phone camera, f*** you! I love the compactness of the 5n for this reason and the low light capability with low noise is amazing, but I do love the ergonomics of the 7 too.
Hmm, I guess the only solution really is two bodies, I guess I gotta start saving up!
If you are sticking with a 5X camera, then you aren’t going to see massive changes, the Nex format has settled itslef now and Sony are never going to add any major features to the 5 range for fear of devaluing higher cameras. If you want a newer camera with better/more features, then buy a camera higher in the range, not the same model after an annual update.
A new menu interface is surely a welcome change to the NEX system as it seems that may be one thing holding some potential customers from taking the plunge into NEX land. All reviewers consistently hark on this element but honestly, I don’t find it that bad at all. I came from a point and shoot camera so maybe that’s why? I can easily see why dslr people would find it very frustrating though. I admit it’s confusing at first but I got used to it after a while, and once you set up the customizable keys to your liking, you really don’t even need to go menu diving after that. If you tend to shoot both raw and jpeg however, or even just jpeg, you may have to dumpster dive since there are so many precise settings to get the jpegs processed the way you want, so maybe that’s one reason it has been so easy for me to avoid the menu since I only shoot raw and therefore really only have limited options available to me to worry about.
What does NFC mean?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4469135385441
Thanks.
A dealbreaker for new cameras for many, if not now, then soon.
IMHO of course.
just another slow af body. gogo sony, we need more bodies!
I am little disappointed by the 5T, but at least its release is gonna drop the price of the 5R. Still waiting for a NEX with Viewfinder AND Touchscreen. And no, I don’t want to put a huge VF on a small NEX 5.
Unfortunatly there is no alternative from MFT neither. OMD and GX7 are just expansive for a second camera to me.
Hope you have a small nose
Don’t the 3 + 5 series usually ship with a lesser kit lens? I never saw any kits of the 5r with the new 16-50 (not from manufacturer anyway). If there is in fact a new high quality zoom, I would expect the new nex6 or 7 to come along with it.
The rumour doesn’t say the 16-70mm will ship as a kit with the 5T. BTW, both the NEX-3N and 5R ship with the 16-50mm PZ.
If you mean the 18-55mm when referring to the lesser kit lens, I’d have to disagree. The only thing the 16-50mm has going for it is its size. Optically it’s no better or worse than the 18-55mm in my experience, but the power zoom aspect makes it annoying to use for stills.
nah I was talking about the alleged “high quality” zoom lens. no way it will ship with the 5t.
No, it’s been a little different: Initially Sony sold the NEX-5RL with SEL-P1650 only in the US and in Europe only the NEX-5RK with SEL-1855. After a while the NEX-5RL got introduced in Europe additionally, while this model discontinued in the US. Hopefully the NEX-5T will be switchable between NTSC and PAL…
I’m more interested in that lens as I already own 5R and 6. Hard to believe they would couple a $1000 lens with a “5” series. Unless they also plan to offer a cheaper kit with one of the two lesser kit lenses (1855 or 1650).
Most likely, if this is a G lens, it won’t be the standard kit lens.
so the new lens is 16-70m and not the 16-80m f2,8-f4 you mentionnend in the NEX-7 replacement rumor?
much less interesting 🙁
bad new there are so few improvements for NEX5-R replacement: One year ago, NEX 5R and NEX6 were great cameras, but with the arrival of Pana GX7 and Oly PEN EP5, there are many things to improve now!
That extra 10mm at the long-end is pretty insignificant, especially if it keeps size down and means it can maintain aperture sizes at longer focal lengths.
Admin – go on vacation! It is hard earned. It won’t be the end of the world if we don’t get rumors for a couple of days.
+1, it would be the best for all of us and you, Andrea
Try to find a good substitute and take a rest for some time.
What’s happen ding with Nex 7 successor? Could that be released with the 5T or early September?
Please try to obtain more info about Nex-7 Successor and Full-Frame Nex.
I’d still like a longer pancake’ish zoom. I fear the new zooms will be bigger and pricier than I want for my 5R and not in keeping with the nex line’s size advantage over DSLRs. I thought the 3N’s zoom lever was a sign we’d get more collapsible zooms in the style of the 16-50mm kit but seems not unless there are some surprises around the corner.
Is the lens for the ff Nex?
APS-C
Andrea,
any news on Firmware updates? Back in spring you posted some rumors about upcomming FW updates to NEXes possibly going all the way back to 5n and 7
not yet. But I will have info soon.
A quality 16-70 lens around f4 at the long end could be the thing that moves me to Sony. A 16-80 would be better, but I could live with 70. Given the popularity of the Canon 24-105 and Nikon 24-120 I have to wonder why it has taken Sony (and Panasonic, my current brand) so long to catch on.
Im really interested in this lense. Its always complicated to do such lenses for the NEX System as they have to be
1. Fast
2. Light
3. With Image Stabilisation
Most lenses right now are either not fast or dont have image stabilisation. I wonder if this lense will have both.
I was really disappointed about the 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6, i wanted to give my girlfriend an NEX3 with that lense for birthday but not for that aperture.
All 16-50mm lenses normally provide f/2.8, this is the only one with 3.5-5.6
I think im now going to get her an A58 with the Sony 16-50 f/2.8 or the Sigma EX 17-50 f/2.8
I read a quote of about 1000 for the 16-70 only… Is that plausible ? If so, they are NUTS, lol
That’s the price of the Zeiss 16-80. E-mount lenses are currently all more expensive than their A-mount versions so
:)g-lens f2.8-4.0:) €1k?
Andrea, thank you for your work.
That s really interesting…
2G high quality zooms
16-70 (2.8-4 ?)
55-150 (2.8-4?)
Just afraid about the prices…
Typically when you compare A moint lenses with their equivalent in E mount (SEL 35 & 50, SEL 18-200)
Just waiting fot the SEL85 and the tour is done (for me):
Nex6
PZ1650 for lazy days
SEL 35 and 85 will be used the most
SEL 18200LE for outiside and travels…
Thanks Sony!
Is another shorter “High Quality” all 2.8 coming along too?
What an odd choice to make it 70mm instead of 50mm and shorter & faster 😐
I would be happy with 2.8-4 or even 3.5-5.6 if IQ is not compromised.
16-40/2.8 would be nicer for me but there are many peopel thta buy NEX and it may be that more of them prefer 16-70/2.8-4.
Anyway at least one great quality zoom will be nice tohave. 1000 Euro/USD is steep but seems liekly if IQ is great. Look at similar lens from Nikon & Canon & even Sony
I use an NEX-5N with EVF and the NEX-7 and see nothing in the NEX-5R worth upgrading and if the rumored specs of the NEX-5T are true, no reason to upgrade to the NEX-5T as well. I am however looking foward to an NEX FF.
Sony has cross-licensing agreement with Aptina and the upcoming Sony mirrorless A-mount and the NEX-5T makes me wonder whether Sony has taken advantage of the cross-licensing agreement with Aptina to introduce a new generation of APS-C sensor with integrated PDAF using the Aptina “magic sauce”. If the sensor in the upcoming NEX-5T incorporates the same PDAF features as the Aptina 1″ sensor used in the Nikon 1 series, then AF whether single or continuous will be very fast. Matched to a new fast 16-70mm zoom, this combo could prove to be very interesting.
This would be awesome if the lens was a constant f2.8 and was the kit lens for NEX 9…
A 17-50mm f2.8 would be perfect!, and for NEX I’m pretty sure you can do smaller than the SAL1650. I really wish a fast and constant aperture Zoom for my NEX, if Sony cannot offer something similar, then i just simply go to M4/3 system. Right now i’m using booth system with a OM-D and a NEX 5n, the NEX 5n with the EVF has been on the shelf waiting for a good zoom, because all my manual lenses are working with the OM-D because the 5-axis stabilization (a bless). M4/3 have the Lumix 12-35 and 35-100 booth at F2.8, a 60mm f2.8 macro and are weather resistant.
Please don’t come with the APSC vs m4/3 size debate here, the NEX system was revolutionary 3 years ago but the new generation M4/3 cameras is catching up, and have a extensive line of good lenses, primes and zooms.
I hope Sony can understand that!
Maybe the firmware update that is stuck in limbo will add this new menu system to older models? I hope that it is actually better than the old version–although it would be hard to do much worse.
16-70 = SAL1680?
So they shaved 10mm off the long end to make it smaller? It better be G or Zeiss speced.
If NEX-5T is getting the new interface similar to RX100 and A77, that would be awesome, I would upgrade just for that! The current NEX menu system is too cumbersome for advanced users.
Only if you’re not “advanced” enough to work around it 😉
work arounds take time, you just can’t put lipstick on a pig
Wonder will the new NEX line have a PAL/NTSC toggle like the RX100 Mkii. That alone would give me a reason to pick one up.
Andrea, any news on new FF A-Mount SLT cameras?
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