DxOmark (Click here) already posted the full test of the new RX100MII. And indeed the camera manages to have score a 20% better high ISO result. And obviously the competition cannot match the RX100/RX100MII quality. DxO writes:
Until such time that rivals adopt the Sony unit, or something similar (like the sensors found in the Nikon 1 cameras), it’s unlikely that they’ll be able to compete on level terms. For the moment at least, the highly pocketable Sony Cyber-shot DSC RX100 and the new Mk II version have no real equal.
Here is the updated preorder list:
RX1 at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, WexUK, Sonystore US, Sony Canada, Sony Deutschland, Sony UK, Sony France, Sony Italy, Sony Netherland, Sony Belgium, Sony Austria, Sony Sweden, Sony Finland, Sony Spain.
RX100MII at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, WexUK, Sonystore US, Sony Canada, Sony Deutschland, Sony UK, Sony FR, Sony Italy, Sony Netherland, Sony Belgium, Sony Austria, Sony Sweden, Sony Finland, Sony Spain.
Sony HVL-F43M TTL flash at BHphoto and Adorama.
Sony VFA-49R1 Filter Adapter for the for RX-100 & RX-100M2 & RX-1R at BHphoto and Adorama.
Sony AG-R1 Attachment Grip for RX-100 & RX-100M2 & RX-100M2 at BHphoto and Adorama.
Sony Premium Leather-Like Jacket Case for RX-100 & RX-100M2 at Adorama.
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Nice. However, I can only see the value of the MKII in the hotshote, slip screen and 24/25p video modes.
For everyone else, the RX100 original should be more than enough.
Great minds think alike!
personally I felt Sony should’ve waited longer to release the RX100MK2 since the original had no competition and it was selling very well, instead I would like to see a RX10
Good point, them Leica X Vario and G1X need some competition in their turf.
On the other hand, now where the screen is flipping and it has a hotshoe there is little to upgrade…
I can’t think of any missing feature except of even better image quality and since we have only evolution over the years you can be happy with this mkII for many many years!
its not an upgrade, its the same spec revised which is the same for any camera. People will say the same thing when the A78, A66, A99mk2 comes out but none of those cameras are intended to be an upgrade.
Camera manufacturers do this to keep their product at the front of the stores windows, on the front pages of magazines and so on, not to reinvent the camera every year. People are incredibly short sighted if they expect massive changes with every tiny model number increment, considering that certain models are on their maybe 10th iteration, they should now be shooting pictures in complete darkness with photo realistic hologram result.
They should, but maybe they desperately need money.
Well, this is exactly what Olympus it’s doing with its lines of cameras: add a very small feature, change the number of the model, and price it 30% more than the previous model was at launch.
This strategy intends to take advantage of the weak yen. International distributors will buy from now on the new RX100 mkii, which in many foreign countries will have a price comparable to the original RX100. While, if priced correctly, it should be 30% less expensive (the yen collapsed in last months). This way Sony (and Oly, and, alas, the others) intends to make a lot more money by selling just the same old stuff…
Sure, I expect many of these cameras to sell much less in Japan (e.g. the Epl6 with the new price is out of the market, and without fire sales it will be a fiasco)
Yes, as expected the sensor performance is only marginally better, so the real improvements are in the flip screen and the possibility of using an EVF. Not bad, anyway.
I will have mine around 20 July
I see big value in the hotshoe to mount wireless flash trigger for studio shooting or strobist shooting
I will test it with an Elinchrom D Lite and with some cactus V5
that’s nice. can’t wait to see your next report about it man 😀
Nice. Can’t wait to receive my pre-ordered RX100 II.
The performance of the RX100 (1 or 2) is really astonishing, especially when compared to a camera with larger sensor. The NEX7, for example performs better than the RX100 which is of course expected because of the bigger sensor. However, the NEX7 is less than a full stop better when you look at the measurements. From the sensor size (3,31x bigger than RX100), you would expect a lead of approximately 1.7 stops. Now sensor tech improved since the NEX7 was created, but not by 0.7 stops. (just compare to the old RX100)
Anyone got a good explanation for this small advantage of the bigger-sensor-cameras?
No, I don’t 🙂
But my *guess* is maybe
1) advances in sensor technology
2) advantages of pairing a lens with a sensor
3) a sort of ‘law of diminishing returns’
I find this comparison interesting:
ISO performance
1″ RX100II 483
APS-C NEX-7 1016
APS-C Coolpix 1164
FF D3 3253
which by the way shows the difference is more than 1 stop, not half a stop.
to be precise: 1016 ISO vs 483 ISO is a 1.072805 stop difference.
Compared to the old RX100: 1016 vs 390 is a 1.381354 stop difference.
It’s a well-known fact that any standardized testing and data generated from such is always suspicious or outright wrong until they support your seat-of-the-pants impressions.
You seem to be new to the Intarwebz. 😉
Admin, any SONY FF news? 6D is on sale now and really cheap.
Buy the Canon. A99 isn’t going to be anywhere near the price of a 6D anytime soon. Maybe second hand in 2015. Sony is going for full on mirrorless EVF as Admin posted a few weeks ago. Sony can’t provide you now with a price match to what you would want to spend compared to the 6D.
Say it isn’t so. It just can’t be. It isn’t Canon or Nikon…
Sony has a pic on their website of the RX100 II and the EVF attached. It looks kind of odd considering how small the camera body is, but definitely a cool option to have.
I still find it hard to justify the price of the camera compared to an NEX system, even if there’s a Zeiss badge on it. Don’t some snobby NEX users still bash the m4/3 users and their tiny sensors?
We have a saying in England: ‘Mustn’t grumble!’ to this sort of thing. One might argue that this is just a sweetener invented by the directors to keep us interested and buying. Raise the price of the RX100 by tweaking it a little, a movable screen and add a hotshoe. THEN get them to purchase an accesory viewfinder for £279 or a cost similar to that price difference. Hey Presto!!! Bring profit in!!
But no,………….. mustn’t grumble. Be thankful for what you’re given. Snort and drool over this gimmicking.
I think you are mostly right.
OTOH, the original RX100 is dropping in price, and soon will cost the half of one year ago. I have the RX100, and my wife loves it as well. I guess I may buy another one for her…
Anything below 90 at DXO is pure trash, so now do the numbers..
Adding wi-fi, the multi port shoe & tilt screen are worth the extra $100 over ther the version 1. The small improvements to the sensor are just the icing given that the 1st gen takes excellent photos. My order will be in shortly.
Well,I’m new on this site which BTW I found to be an excellent source of news
regarding new releases.I do own RX100 and I think “picture taking & Video recording”
are great,but price ?
I do believe a new version should have some major improvements as follows :
1- F 1.4 from 28 to 35 mm.
2- F 1.8 from 36 to 50 mm.
3- F 2.8 from 51 to 70 mm.
4- F 4.0 from 71 to 100 mm.
5- Flash be moved toward the top center.This is important IMHO because it helps
camera handling and holding when the flash is raised .
I think the above major changes to the lens ( even if it increases the thickness
2 to 3 mm and the weight 40 to 50 grams )and flash be moved toward the center and
the option of some sort of FRONT GRIP ( just an option but of the type that
enhances holding the camera much more comfortably one-handed.
IMHO , I shall consider the above changes “SUBSTANTIAL” and worth $150 to $200
to the price,but makes the camera A MAJOR CONTENDER AMONG ENTHUSIAST PHOTOGRAPHERS.I do believe it will sell for many years and all interested parties
will benefit.