[UPDATE] According to PR, the X-M1 will have focus peaking, but no digital split image focusing.
Digicame just leaked the specs for the 2 new Fuji lenses here.
The price of the 27mm should be of 45,000 yen (converted: $460 – € 350) and released in July. The XC 16-50 should cost 40,000 yen (converted: $407 – €310) and released together with the X-M1 brown version in September.
From readers, we have to provide information specs and price of the interchangeable lens of two new Fujifilm, on the Release Date.
Specifications XF27mm F2.8 are as follows.
– Seven five groups, lens configuration is one glass mold aspherical lens
– Seven pieces, feathers aperture circular aperture
– HT-EBC coating
– Focusing feeding of five four front group
– Minimum focusing distance Standard: 0.6m, macro: 0.34m
– 0.1 times maximum magnification
– Filter diameter 39mm
– Total length 23mm, maximum diameter of 61.2mm
– 78g Weight
– Expected Release Date July 27
– Estimated retail price 45,000 yen
Specification of F3.5-5.6 OIS XC16-50mm are as follows.
– 12 pieces in 10 groups, 3 aspherical lens, lens configuration is one ED lens
– Seven pieces, feathers aperture circular aperture
– Optical image stabilization
– Minimum focusing distance Standard: 0.6m, Macro: Wide Angle 0.3m, 0.4m telephoto
– 0.15 times maximum magnification
– Filter diameter 58mm
– Total length 65.2mm, maximum diameter 62.6mm
– 195g Weight
– Will be released in September
– Estimated retail price of around 40,000 yen
47 Responses
not exactly cheap lenses…
I agree, the lenses are not cheap. I think the 27mm at roughly £300 is pricey but if the build quality is up there with the 18mm and optically it is good, it might be worth it, loss of aperture ring is a disappointment, it is one of the key features i went for when i bought into the fuji x system. cheer jon
I’d expect some attractive kit pricing.
It can hardly be attractive for the masses, I’m afraid…
Looks like Fuji is slowly but steadily sailing away from the “Pro” and experienced amateur niche they were supposedly aiming to when they launched the X system. I hoped the system would get better, not worse as time went. I bought the X-Pro1 and primes for their quality and aperture rings, you may discuss if an aperture ring is necessary or not but it is what Fuji put on the table when they launched the line and now they look elsewhere. The market is probably too little for the X-Pro1 segment and they have to go for a broader more profitable audience, seems like you can’t have it all. Well, our illusions of a poor man’s M are vanished (and I am sure that Fuji ha the red dot in mind when they marketed the system, even launching their own M adapter). Damn, they were close enough to make the disappointment bigger.
Why does it matter for you? You don’t have to buy this body, which is still a lot more serious than a regular nex5..
@ohwow – Do you seriously think that Pro’s using say Canon’s 1DX have a massive cry everytime they release a new 600D, 650D, 700D… EOS M… year after year and question the brands loyalty to their top users? When their high end products only see a refresh every 3-4 years?
Pro’s wouldn’t whinge because they’re too busy making money. I’m no pro, but I at least have the good sense to understand when a company expands its range looking at increased revenue and user base.
Keeping the Fuji system dedicated to high end users while moving less units than any of their competion would be financial suicide. Open your eyes.
Sure, assuming they get enough resources to grow. Fuji’s not Canon (yet.)
Wow, and I thought Sony’s NEX 20mm f/2.8 pancake was expensive.
I’m curious about this new “XC” lens designation. I wonder what XF and XC stand for (if anything), what the difference is between the two, and if more XC lenses will be released.
Rico Pfirstinger says, “XF: This is a no-brainer and simply means that the lens is suitable for X-Mount cameras from Fujifilm.” Maybe it’s not such a no-brainer…
Perhaps the C stands for Cheap – low end consumer quality. F for high end ‘Fuji’ quality.
Cheap, Crappy, Compact, Consumer, Convenient… pick your choice!
Hopefully the C will eventually stand for Cool. I just want the mythical 10-24 before I grow old. And hope it is not Cheap, Crappy, Consumer level. This whole low end camera and zoom thing has changed my perception of the Fuji quality. I bought it to be the Leica I always wanted, now they name their low end camera M – not to be confused with a quality Leica M.
It’s not compact, òr convenient. 😉
I pick consumer.
Try “Full” for “F” and “Compact” for “C”
F means Full Frame compatible, C means Crop Frame only
Oh how one could wish….
Then the 18-55/2.8-4 would be waaaaay too small. 🙂
That 27 shoulda been a 2.0, just as the Canon 40 shoulda been a 2.0, just as the Voigtlander 40mm 2.0 pancake IS a 2.0, and is fantastic. 2.8 normal primes, lame.
+1
I was looking forward to this lens. But now that I know the price and particulars I may not get it. I think my money will be better spent on the 14mm.
Not for me, either. I just want the Fuji 10-24 zoom, assuming it is not cheap quality and includes an aperture ring. After these announcements I am suspect about they direction Fuji is going.
I don’t really understand the critique in the comments. It isnt like they decided to discontinue the higher end xseries. This camera+lenses are aimed at people with a budget and amateurs. Mainly the nex3/5, eos m, Nikon v1/j1, micro 4/3 (lower end) crowd. They will continue to develop the higher end cameras. And probably people who start with the lower end cameras will eventually upgrade to the higher end ones. Like many of us started with x10 or x100 and upgraded to xpro1/xe1.
The current line of fujinon lenses are fantastic already. A few lower end ones won’t suddenly make them crap. If you don’t like the 2 cheaper lenses then don’t buy them. The 27 mm pancake has obviously ditched the aperture ring to be as compact as possible. The 16-50mm is a obviously an affordable “kit” lens, if you want a better zoom buy the 18-55mm so what is the problem? When the 18-55mm was reviewed, many already commented how good it was and shouldn’t be called a “kit” lens
Like you say, the pancake was obviously maimed for this, and who knows what else will, so there’s the fear and critique.
If ‘…people with a budget and amateurs…’ can buy a Nex-3 + 16-50mm zoom for a mere € 387, Fuji is clearly aiming wrong with this pricing.
The image quality+build quality both will be better. The nex 16-50 lens is anything, but good.
Right on, Jim. If Fuji needs to have product to market to a lower end user so that they can continue to produce a few high end cameras and lenses, I’m all for it. I love my XP1 and the lenses, and I’ll bet the XP2, when/if it comes out next year, will incorporate all the functionality that Fuji is teasing us with one feature at a time.
It seems to me that with this pancake, Fuji tried hard not to kill an X100 line. And they’ve succeeded – nice tactical move, but a total lack of strategic planning. I’ve been complaining about aliens from outer space working in Fuji’s usability department; now it looks like they’ve got Russians in their marketing.
Oh, and the XF lens roadmap – it’s more like a guideline anyway.
That’s what i said !
It though that just waiting long enough after the x100 to release it, plus limiting it to ‘only’ F2.8 would be enough, but it seems they thought it not.
But maybe that means they are far from done with the X100 series, so that’s good.
People commenting their own comments make me dizzy. 😉
Whatever they do, for good or for bad, they are evolving, and evolving rather quickly – unlike Leica, which does so at a glacial pace.
My biggest gripe with Fuji X – they obviously lack any target audience per se, it’s a marketing experiment in progress, without any aim. “Let’s make this and that and see how general public reacts”. Unfortunately, there’s no such thing as general public. What appeals to working pros might be disgusting for fine art photographers, and the features that totally resonate with artists might be completely misunderstood by “vacation” photographers. Focus, Fuji, focus and concentration, and what was that other thing again?…
Then maybe they should have two product lines with the same mount, as Nikon does for example. The 27 original pictures featured the aperture ring, I call that misleading.
Canon has the Rebel, Nikon has the D3200. Now Fuji has the X-M1. Something for everyone. Lighten up, people!
Ben & Jerry’s has really good ice cream !
Too bad the prices will be in a different league…
Now THAT’S the spirit!!! And yes, yes they do.
The XM-1 is clearly just showing Fuji’s desire to expand their product lineup and target a consumer looking to get the X-trans sensor in a cheaper package, nothing more, nothing less. It’s hits a lower price point so they can evolve their higher end products further. A three camera product segmentation makes total sense. All this talk about Fuji not targeting certain markets or not knowing what they’re doing is complete nonsense. They have rolled out an excellent lens line up in a short amount of time with more fantastic choices coming shortly – and they all hit a very direct point in the market. Not one other manufacturer in the mirrorless marketplace has managed to do this in such a short amount of time.
Does the pancake really not have an aperture ring or is the photo just misleading… or is Fuji heading away from that as the zooms don’t have aperture rings either.
The 18-55 does have one ! It’s just variable.
Yeah, so does the 55-200.
Both zooms are extremely good. In fact, if neither of them had aperture controls and were “Canon” lenses, they would be close to L status. The 55-200 is the only long lens for a mirrorless system that has come close to the 100-400L I have for the 5d mkii.
Indeed. Just hope they keep it that way for future lenses.
What are people concerned about?
1. Diluting the FujiFilm X brand
2. Slowing down high-end X-mount development (lenses, bodies, etc.) because FujiFilm can’t supposedly do it in parallel?
Seems to me Fuji is stretching the range (which happened with X-E1 last year), stripping some features while adding others (with X-E1 it was no OVF but better EVF, for example), maybe in a more accelerated manner with the X-M1.
The question FujiFilm needs to answer is whether the core of X they choose to be (arguably X-Trans sensor combined with Fuji’s unique in-camera processing) is strong enough to stand on its own if you remove the manual controls, loss of high-end-only lenses (still <$1,000 per lens is a low price for die-hard Canon L consumers…), OVF, loss of aperture ring, camera styling, etc.
This reminds me to Toyota and the Prius. Initially (for several years) – one model, no other car got their Hybrid system. As time passed, they added the hybrid system to "normal looking cars", added more models and variety to the Prius brand, etc.
Seems to me what Fuji is doing is standard industry practice to expand the original point wedge into the market. Toyota added more hybrid cars, Crocs added more types of shoes using their core material, and Fuji may one day actually release a standard aluminum X-Trans body, if their market research / gut feeling tells them that they will truly expand rather than sell cheaper cameras to people who would otherwise buy more expensive ones.
Does your camera become any different if there's a newer model out there? No. Will the X-M1 make a lot of X-E1 / X-Pro1 owners replace their cameras? Very doubtful.
I, for one, am still waiting (and by waiting I mean taking lots of photos…) for the X-E2 sorts of camera with phase-detection AF, and hopeful for that July firmware for my X-E1 that would let me determine minimum shutter speed, maybe add focus peeking, name custom settings, etc.
Wow, now I’m not sure if I want the pancake. I’d have to really really want that compact size, considering for the same price I could get the 35mm f1.4 used. Even the 18-55mm is slowly dropping in the used market. I’d get the 18mm but I’m not a huge fan of that focal length. Maybe I’ll just get the cheap new zoom, and wait for the pancake to come down to like $250 lol
Immediately after posting this I decided to check ebay again. And even though it’s not my ideal focal length, someone was selling the 18mm for $350. And there were only 2 available. I had to jump on it, since I’ve been using manual focus lenses for 6 months now, and I’m not very good at that. I can always crop lol.
Well good, the corners aren’t very good anyway. 😛
lol ok, I’ll keep that in mind