The Canon G1 X you see here will soon get a new competition from Sony!
That “news” came as a BIG surprise for me. According to some of my very trusted sources Sony is almost ready to launch a completely new product, a compact camera with fixed lens and…APS-C sensor! In 2005 Sony announced the [shoplink 11547 ebay]DSC-R1 (here on eBay)[/shoplink] which had a large 5x zoom. But the new camera has a compact zoom lens. Currently only the Canon G1 X (pictured on top) has a similar product with 4X zoom, while the Sigma DP series the Fuji X100 and Leica X1 do use a fixed prime lens.
The sources explicitly told me that the very interesting thing is the new compact zoom pancake lens that will come along the new camera. It will allow an extremely compact size and in short future “could” be offered as “separate lens” for the NEX system too! Can’t wait to see this!
Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
SR1=probably fake rumor
SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
SR4=rumor from known sources
SR5=almost certainly correct!
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“As you may know currently only Sigma and Canon are offering a similar product”
and :
– Fuji X100
– Ricoh GXR (almost)
– leica X1
Sorry made a mess. I intended to say that only Canon is offering a compactc amera with compact zoom lens. All the others are using primes.
why sony.. why? why everytime more and more camera´s?
This may actually be a good idea in a while. Rather than 1000 NEX bodies.
who know one day compact camera with ff sensor and fix zoom 12-500mm f0.95 release
Look at the size and price of 500mm F4 and you will understand why it’s not possible with larger sensor. Such a lens will be bigger and more expensive than several A380 Airbuses. .
I think he was joking…
at least I hope he was.
Of course he was 😛
Sony kinda did it first anyway with the R1.
Exactly. It was a great camera btw. Such a camera with a fix Zeiss lens would be great.
I am SO getting one if it has a leaf shutter like the R1.
Roman- It still is a great camera :). One of the best lenses ever put on a digicam, and base ISO-400 ISO still rivals DSLRS today.
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“Base ISO-400”? Base ISO was 160.
R1 was not a compact! It was a beast! Totally different category. fixed lens, yes. Compact, NO!
G1 X not exactly compact either 🙂
This reminds me of the very first reason I purchased a Sony Camera. The DSC-F828.
This makes absolutely sense to me – and I was expecting it. Form factor and size in combination with high quality sensor/lens is what drove the interest in the NEX system in the first place. Most NEX lens combinations are not pocketable, hence it makes sense to go fixed zoom for folks who are more into size than lens versatility. I welcome this, hope that it is considerably smaller than Canon’s G1X and offers manual video controls.
Well said!
What’s wrong with Sony this year?
Makes me remind the good ol’ DSC-R1.
good for business.
Interesting. And very interesting if it got manual exposure both in still
and video mode. And a good EVF. And price around 400-600$
But I guess Sony will spec it so people who want full manual control
must buy NEX or Alpha.
Sadly, I half believe this is exactly what they will do. Here’s hoping they don’t!
I often think of a NEX but I’d prefer a VF and a bit more compactness, even the expense of interchangeable lenses. Sometimes I think about a high end compact but I’m always put off by the little sensors. So, if Sony get this right, I think I know what I’ll be wanting for my birthday!
Might be interesting, as long as Sony don’t cripple it with a horrible touchscreen interface and by removing key features.
and up-to-date jpeg engine.
I predicted this a few weeks ago – NEX camera with non-interchangeable lens. I hope that it’s waterproof – the first really practical camera for divers. Even if it isn’t waterproof it makes perfect sense – RAW image quality from a walk around camera.
+1 waterproof or a cheap underwatercase available
Nice, I love both my NEX, but this could be the ultimate for dropping in a pocket for business trips. Needs some special glass on it though, either Zeiss or G rated with fixed f2.8 at least (f2.0 would be sensational).
f2.0 zoom throughout on a pancake style lens for an APS-C sensor???
Dream on buddy.
Admin:
Even if Sony comes up with a P&S camera like the DSC-R1, what makes you think it would be ugly like the Canon G1X? 🙂
I think Sony’s design has to be better. It’s almost impossible to beat the “uglyness” of the G1X 🙂
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agreed. And let us hope it beats the Canon in image quality too as I saw somewhere a not to favorable opinion of the Canon cam.
Make it look exactly like a NEX but with a fixed lens that is retractable, and flush (or at least recessed) when retracted. That would kill the competition.
I’d buy that for a dollar!
when i see uglyness make me remember of pentax 😀 lol…
>It’s almost impossible to beat the “uglyness” of the G1X
Heh, Pentax k01 tried and WON!
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Hahahaha… this is seriously funny.. but true.
The K01 is the perfect street candid camera. Every body smile when they saw it, and nobody can imagine it’s a serious camera and not a fisher price one 🙂
As ugly as the Canon, if it was more ugly and does videos well that would be an outstanding accomplishment. Can you image the screams you could get making horror videos with it, the screams would not be acting. 🙂
It would curdle milk instantly, very useful if you like cheese.
Seriously, if the Lens is Zeiss quality with one of the better Sony sensors it could be a real great camera.
I think the patent from Canon, in the last entry is for a similar type of camera. They all see the success of the X100 and figure lets do one also. Good for those of us who want a camera like that.
Okay… maybe, they could steal some of their Minolta genes…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50678983@N00/237653796/in/pool-46195334@N00/
That’s what I call style. Wish they would consider it.. 😉
I would love to se a minolta inspired, retro styled camera!
I dont really like the NEX sice. Its like small but to big at the same time.
Since it’s got an APS-C sensor people are thinking about the R1. But, if it’s on the ‘compact’ side, I guess we may see, finally, the evolution of the fantastic V1/V3 cameras (but now with a big sensor).
Let’s hope that the high-end market for compact cameras gets heated up again.
Unexpected but great news!
This is very interesting, my biggest gripe with NEX is compactness.
Exactly. I’m very close to buying the Canon G1. It’s compact, has manual control and a reasonable zoom. I don’t need a monster zoom but a low light compact camera. Having the A77 and A700 I’m not going to invest heaps of money into the NEX system to end up with almost the same size system as my DSLRs.
I am surprised… But in a bad way… It will be good if Sony surprised me with a FF…
+1
Will it come with the pixel binning that was announced earlier and produce incredible low light shooting. A fixed 16-50mm f2.8, RAW, full manual control and the A77 EVF please.
A fixed 16-50mm f2.8 will make it far bigger than a NEX with already large kitlens. And Sony likes variable aperture lenses, since they hardly offer fixed aperture lenses for A/E-mount. I quess it will get a 24-80/100mm 35mm equivalent lens, maybe f2.8-4, but I expect worse. Anyway, I’m afraid it will be to big and bulky, just like the Canon G1X, which is to be expected, honestly. At least, it should operate with dslr like speed, or it will be useless for me (that is, not worth buying considering my needs and expected price tag). Sony would really surprise me when they deliver a “compact” camera with a fastish zoom. However, when it includes the excellent EVF, it might be a winner for many.
Even it Sony could make a 16-50mm F2.8, that’s just too short FL to appeal to most people (myself included).
If they could pull something like a 24-120mm or 28-120mm, that’d be really nice (F3.5-F.56 perhaps? Too slow?).
This appeals to me as long as it is not menu driven like nex3-5.
Hmmm.. won’t this kill the NEX sales? Anyway looking forward to it!
What would they put as the lens i wonder. 16mm Zeiss Biogon f2?
How can this kill NEX sales? NEX is an interchangeable system. This is a digital camera.
If they could incorporate the digital zoom they used on the TX200V and equip this camera with a 24 megapixel sensor and good Zeiss lens, it really looks like a winner.
fixed lens or compact zoom lens…
I agree, if Sony release a high quality, fixed lens camera with a sensor and range similar or wider to a NEX with the kit lens it could very well eat big chunks from the NEX market. Sadly, a large % of the NEX market are buying the camera and not buying lenses, theyre not buying it as an interchangeable lens camera but a very high end P&S.
Who cares? That’s always been Sony’s strategy. If they’re going to lose sales, might as well be with their own products rather than over another manufacturers one. Win win.
Also I still disagree they will lose NEX sales over this. The people who really want a NEX will want interchangeable lenses. If you want interchangeable lenses, you won’t suddenly by a fixed lens camera without interchangeable lenses.
Nice, but in what price? Something near Nex 3?
Double it I would have thought.
I would like it to have a 35mm lens but I doubt it will because that would place it in direct competition with the Fuji X100.
Thanks for the info. Admin.
Fixed prime is too limiting for the average consumer and is too niche. It will definitely be a zoom.
Et tu, Sony?
Hopefully:
EVF in stead of OVF. A poor OVF like the one on G12/P7100/G1X is for emergency use at most. And please, an EVF not in the center like G12/p7100/G1X.
A lens that is brighter than the F3.5 that most kit zooms start with. F2.8 of G1X must be met or beaten.
A reasonable price. Should be a tad lower than A35 with the kit lens.
Reasonably compact, but not NEX5 compact. Somewhat more sleek than G1X.
If all these things can be met, this camera could be a better alternative for all the DSLR photogs that never buy another lens than the kit zoom. I could be interested as a replacement for my S95.
Price will be higher compared to an A35 with lens, considering the lens specs you want. This may not be an issue, since it will be the top of the line compact from Sony, with some advantages over entry-level DSLRs
Hopefully they keep the zoom lens fast like the Fuji X10.
Hopefully without x10’s white orb problem.. Hahahaha
loved my V1 but wanted to have lens options this woudl make a great kayak cam
I have used the Sony DSC-R1 for years, and the idea was a great one: use the same sensor as in a Nikon DSLR (i forget which one) und put in a “compact”. it was not, however, very compact, and overall very slow, that got in the way substantially. i remember switching between it and my old Contax rts III while street shooting out taxis and it made the contax seem insane in terms of speed.
but i digress: the DSC was a marvel of a camera, that was NOT the same as the fuji or leica compacts, it had a nice zoom range, not fixed focal, and it was not really compact. definitely larger than the current a55. which i liked, because i find the a55 too small to hold properly. but now the dsc will fit in any pocket.
hope sony gets the speed under control, then it would be a killer camera, but totally hurt their NEX sales.
DSC-R1 was a great camera. Great to handle and amazing IQ.
Hope to see something similar using latest technologies …
I think this will appeal more to people like me who will never buy NEX due to the size of the lenses. Depending on cost of course!
I’m not convinced that compact users and NEX users are the same. At the moment Sony are probably losing sales because NEX is too bulky, changing lenses is “complicated” and the Sony lenses are few and expensive.
The loss of NEX sales may actually produce a net gain from the additional number of compact sales.
Until we see spec and cost, this is all a moot point of course. 😀
This is what I predicted a while ago. 3 new NEX cameras according to rumors. 1 C3 replacement. 2 Fixed lens NEX and 3 semi pro VG20 (mostly just with XLRs maybe TRINAV equiv). The fixed will sit side by side with NEX-C3 replacement or below. It will have a basic ‘kit’ equiv lens, though may be a little longer/slightly faster and a lot smaller. There was a new ‘kit’ lens in the new roadmap, maybe that is the interchangeable version of what is going to be on the fixed NEX (NEX-1 I think it will be called).
If it has the stupid NEX or latest Cybershot menu system count me out. Deal breaker right out of the gate. Those divisions couldn’t make a good menu system to navigate to save their life.
It’s got my interest though- a Sony V series cam with an APS-C sensor perhaps?
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Actually, my only concern with this coming camera is the autofocus speed. Nex 7 is still way tomslow compared to the Panasonic or Olympus. The lack of lenses and the autofocus speed sadly pulls me of sony!….
Smartphones are eating up the compact camera market; could a fixed-lens, APS-C sensor based camera help stem this tide?
Your average smart-phone user isn’t going to want to carry this too.
No, but could help increase sales on the enthusiast side.
For some time companies ‘gave up’ making compact cameras for the enthusiast shooters, concentrating on the low-end level of the market (right, Kodak?).
But since most people on that side of the market are happy enough with their smartphones, companies need to do something “new” to keep selling compacts, don’t they?
TBH, I’d more inclined buying a G1X or this new Sony camera (depending on the price) than a ‘normal’ compact ILC (I already own dSLRs).
Yes, but the point was made about smart-phone users, not the enthusiast user.
A smart-phone user will not be interested in carrying a second camera that costs around the same as their iPhone 4S. 😀
The small sensor compact market is where smart-phones are killing sales.
We’re both saying the SAME thing but are having trouble understanding each other 😛
What I said is that: since the low-end market is being eaten up by the smartphones, companies will try to “compensate” that loss re-investing on the high-end market.
So, yes, low-end users will never buy those advanced cameras. In fact, even the low-end cameras they’re not going to buy either, since their smartphones are good enough.
But companies can’t simply abandon the P&S market. So, what to do? Concentrate on the other end 🙂
Anyway, those are just wild guesses. I do not work for any company, nor am into management or anything :p
Doh! The penny drops! Yes indeed! 😉
I have owned 3 R1’s and there is still one in our home. Truely wonderful camera. Others may disagree but I have yet to see Sony really screw up with a camera. They are always innovating and generally doing things a little differently. It’s risky but I have been a happy Sony fanboi for 20 years. Sounds to me they have another “hit” on their hands.
Correction- Sony used to innovate with the Cybershot line. Now they copy other manufactures and try to improve their ideas instead of coming up with their own. Funny too because Sony used to be a profitable company back then, and now…. OUCH.
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You have a strange obsession with trying to prove that Sony don’t innovate, you are like a broken record.
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What have they innovated that I haven’t already mentioned? Ball is in your court, don’t fumble.
Leave it up to someone who copies others to defend a company that copies others.
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what have you innovated?
That’s what I thought. You can’t come up with anything they’ve innovated other than what I already outlined.
You sound like a Sony advert in all of your replies- your astroturfing campaign is starting to become obvious.
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@MCP
You do realise that Frank’s response isn’t me?
Again, total FAIL!
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Yes ding dong I didn’t reply to him. Again, you fail to give any logical reply and answer the question. You are a paid astroturfer that is blowing cover.
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Watch your use of words, C., you’ve already blown yours. :;)
Well let’s see. If you are right: a few weeks back I was considering buying an R1 for the hell of it and started looking through some R1 threads. The general consensus for an updated R1 was interchangeable lenses, smaller body, faster AF – everything the NEX is and to some extent the a55/33/37. I remember thinking hmmm I wonder how these people feel now that they got what they were after? The NEX line is a direct descendant of the F828 and R1 along with the small SLTs. Sony don’t innovate and copy everyone else? Well if you are making cameras of course there are going to be similarities, but as far as innovation in cameras go, Sony is really leading the pack. Sony have a far greater ‘system’ of cameras that are interoperable than any other manufacturer. While most are just bringing out newer versions of the same old designs.
It’s the same as debating whether Apple / Microsoft / Samsung / Etc innovates / doesn’t innovate. Everyone creates and also copies on some level, consumers only care about the final product.
I would buy the camera could have a affordable waterproof housing I would totally be into it!! I love the Canon G1X and I am a diehard Sony user so this news is awesome!!
If they match R1, then it will be really interesting.. R1 was in lot of ways perfect all-in-one solution. Kinda still is, if you dont mind slow AF and writing to card.
Too funny when folks say APS-C lenses are too slow and too big for NEX bodies with great sensors…everyones waiting for full-frame sensor with smaller f2.0 or f2.8 lenses. Ha ha….good luck
This is what I would like to have. A ‘do quite a bit’ camera, with a aps-c sensor. But I wonder what the telephoto capabilities will be? We’ll see.
“A ‘do quite a bit’ camera”
Yup!
I’d not be concerned about longer focal lengths, I just want a pocket-able camera with an APS-C. Given the right speed and focal length this would make a great street camera.
If they are smart…, this camera will have an f2-3.5 Zeiss lens, minimum 16 mp (preferably higher) sensor, and an OLED viewfinder built in. For $1000 bucks…, and they won’t be competing with themselves.
There’s a serious market for these features and they need to outdo Canon. If it looks like a cool mod camera (like NEX 7, but unlike the disgusting Canon G1X), they’ll eat Canon’s lunch…, even at the higher price. Also, anticipating the potential for something similar from Leica at Photokina, pre-empt that too. Another reason for the Zeiss lens.
Well, in a way I’m concerned about the telephoto, in that often times cameramakers try to do a 24mm- 280mm combo lens type a deal. And then the lens is flawed because of it. Maybe if they do something like 24-135mm and offer the 2x smart converter button, that would be best. This way I could still get a decent shot of some wildlife, but I understand that this would not be its primary use.
That would be lovely!!!
It won’t have an aperture that large due to size. An APS-C sensor with a f2-3.5 lens means the camera would be pretty big. I’d expect something closer to the G1X but hopefully with a slightly larger max aperture at the tele end.
Hopefully it will be smaller than the Sherman tank-sized G1X
Hopefully it has at least x4 zoom (x5 would be awesome), swivel LCD and in-built flash and OVF.
Hope it would be the long awaited…R2!…which the NEX 7 never came to be.
Does “almost ready to launch” mean announcement on 13th of march?
so is this like a mirrorless type compact cam with a fixed lens and aps-c sensor? kinda call it a NEX fixed lens version??
Yes, It would be like a larger sensor version of the Leica D-Lux 5 and the Fuji X10. Another reason why the Zeiss lens, etc., are important.
and priced around the same, it might just be a winner.
I have been following with interest the Canon G1X but have been put off by the lack of EVF. If Sony puts an EVF or even some sort of optical VF in that exceeds the Canon attempt, I’ll buy it. I loved my R1 and only sold it due to its lack of OIS.
rugged features like shock/freeze/waterproof in it will be awsme thn, considerin its gona be very compact and not to worry abt the lens cuz its fixed types rather interchngble 🙂 so then we got a aps-c compact cam whch doesnt need a water proof case 😛
Sony has too many engineers and marketers. Always with too many products. They’re losing marketshare in segments they once dominated like gaming, music player, and television. They’re losing money on a regular basis. This company have incompetent managers. They need to wake up and stay focused. Sony will not stop till they have at least 20-30 actively selling interchangeable lens cameras.
What’s wrong with 20-30 interchangeable??
sony does not really need to compete with the Canon G1X. It may be ok to make one since Sony has this type of camera before but they have to make sure that they don’t go beyond the price of an NEX, otherwise, consumers will ignore this type of camera and go with an NEX instead.
Not if they want a compact camera they won’t.
Glad to hear it. Its long overdue… Let hope Sony include RAW, they are known to cripple their devices.
If its NEX sized or smaller, then I’ll probably be picking one up. Must haves:
– Decent Glass (zeiss or G)
– Good Range (24-105 Equiv)
– Stabilized
– at least 16mp
– 1080/60p
– Share NEX batteries
I agree. My wife has an HX9V and while the lens has its flaws I’m impressed with it in real-world shooting. I think Sony can pull it off. I just really hope that tech ends up in the NEX. Maybe that’s what the “Normal” zoom they’ve got coming up will be.
Has anyone who received an email from Sony about their Nex-7 Kit order (“new shipping date of Feb 17”) actually receive their Nex-7 Kit yet? Sony sales said that it was an automated email and that my order won’t ship until March 3.
For those who don’t mind being restricted to shooting exclusively with a slow zoom, this could be an interesting alternative. But it has to be really compact in order to make much sense. If it’s not, it starts to compete with compact system cameras, some of which are not only quite compact but also have relatively small lenses (primes and zooms)in their respective systems. But Sony seems to be quite good at miniaturization, so there’s hope that they will be able to produce an ultra compact APS-C zoom camera.
This might be a good LX5 replacement.. if the price is right. Though since it’s Sony, I doubt the price will be right. It’ll probably end up costing more than a NEX-5N kit.
Linh, Panasonic has hinted that they’ll also produce a large sensor compact. I expect it will have a smaller sensor (4/3 or Nikon CX size) but a much faster lens. It’s going to be an interesting year.
Sony needs vehicles to sell more sensors.
Nah, they have Nikon for that. 😀
Totally for this. I love the powerzooms but not their sensors. I might actually consider this when it comes out…if it has flash support.
Hi (@admin, amongst others),
it so happens that I still own the Sony R1 and that I still think it was a breakthrough that did not obtain the success it deserved. Be that as it may, there is ONE think I don’t understand. One of the very reasons of its poor success sprung from its relatively high weight that itself translated the incredible fast Zeiss zoom lens. But how could Sony reach anything of interest with a pancake zoom if it is not exceedingly slow?
Another point is that the ergonomics of the R1 were unique and I just hope that Sony borrows at little (top viewfinder, etc.) from this marvel.
This might be exactly what I was waiting/wishing for.
The cameras with interchangeable zoom lenses are much too big for my taste. I want something pocketable, as small as possible, but with DSLR like image quality and features. There isn’t really anything like that on the market right now. The Canon G1X is still too big for my taste, and the lens doesn’t appear to be that great/fast. The Olympus XZ-1 is nicely small, has a good lens, but the sensor is far too small and noisy. The Fujitsu X100 might come nearest to what I want, but I’d really like at least some amount of zoom. Maybe this new Sony will fit my needs exactly, if Sony manages to make it small enough, and if they don’t compromise on features and quality. I wouldn’t even mind if this one would end up being more expensive than the NEX-7 + kit zoom lens. I would be willing to pay that if quality is good and if it’s really compact in size.
I am afraid that your requirements are just not optically feasible. The zoom lens you are describing is something like a 17-50 or even 17-85 f2.8. And you want a large sensor, at leas APS-C. The size of such a lens on such a sensor are physically constrained by optics and they can’t be smaller than current reflex lenses with the same focal-range. You can save a bit of space with range-finder(ish) lenses design, which means symmetric retrofocus optics, but still they would be much larger than the Canon G1X. On the other hand, if you don’t care about shallow depth of field offerend by fast lenses, than maybe the future engineering of small sensors will allow for current dslr image quality even at high ISO. Then you’ll have a compact system with fast lens and good image quality. But no shallow depth of field, that is another limit imposed by optics.
Will suck customers from not just NEX, but SLT as well.
I think this camera is for the person who owns a 5 yr old p&s and hasn’t liked the the way compact cameraswere headed, too small or too big (nex with lenses will not fit in a purse or pocket
If this new camera is thinner than the G10, I think it will be a winner
5X zoom starting at 24mm
Fixed touch screen, this is not a camera for me, it’s for my wife that I wouldn’t mind using
A850/A77 owner
I think this camera is for the person who owns a 5 yr old p&s and hasn’t liked the the way compact cameraswere headed, too small or too big (nex with lenses will not fit in a purse or pocket
If this new camera is thinner than the G10, I think it will be a winner
5X zoom starting at 24mm
Fixed touch screen, this is not a camera for me, it’s for my wife that I wouldn’t mind using
A850/A77 owner.
Dude! A nex will easily fit in a purse!
Easily? The body alone: Sure. But not with a zoom lens attached.
Yes it will. Even with the kit zoom it’s only marginally larger than my old FZ18, which would fit my medium sized jacket pockets or a purse (easily).
I guess some people have big pockets and nothing esle to carry in them, the NEX and zoom is HUGE.
I want a compact sized APS-C camera INCLUDING lens.
I just double checked and it’s actually *smaller* (including kitzoom) in every direction than my FZ18, which isn’t huge by any stretch of the definition and which has spent countless hours in my gf’s purse and my regular wintercoat.
will Sony name it DSC-R2?
I had the R1 and I have been always thinking about what will the R2 be
My ideal (and realistic) compact camera would be a small aps-c camera with a fixed 35mm f/1.4 pancake’ish lens.
Um, the X100?
The x100 has a 23mm f/2.0 lens, so no… Also, it’s way too expensive.
It will all come down to how good the lens is. We already know that Sony’s APS-C sensors rock. But if this thing sports yet another mediocre zoom with a variable maximum aperture it will be a big disappointment.
Interesting rumor, it could be a killer camera. While mirrorless cameras have shown the simple users how important is the size of the sensor, they also demonstrated how difficult it is to make a compact APS-C system that has interchangeable lenses: either the body or the optics are bulky. A single lens system, instead, can be designed in order to minimize space as much as possible. I think this is what most users would end up buying.
It actually sounds great! Good upgrade from Sony HX series.
While using fixed zoom I believe that they don’t cross the 16Mpx barrier.
Please give me IBIS! (I wish my R1 had this feature).
They would be really dumb not to put some kind of stabilization in there, my bet is optical.
It will likely have IS. Although it’s less important if it’s IBIS or OIS since it’s a fixed lens camera. NEX ought to have IBIS.
Totally. I thought OIS was a mistake for NEX, but maybe there were engineering challenges.
Why not both?
They will find a way to screw it up. Probably leave out raw or some other fatal flaw trying to get users to upgrade- bait n switch.
Serious cybershot users were abandoned, OVF users probably left abandoned, SLT users will be abandoned. Sony need consistency not hyperbole products that don’t last.
Could be wrong but based on their track record probably not. Hope I’m wrong Sony are a very capable company they just make some boneheaded decisions.
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Admin,any info about which sensor? if is the 16mp and a 28-70mm range, im in.
I’m guessing 16 megapixel or less sensor, no EVF, a 3X – 4X compact zoom @ f3.5-5.6, capacitive touchscreen in OLED or WhiteMagic, OSS, no standard mic input / hotshoe, no weather sealing, infrared remote, GPS, MAYBE Tri-navi. I mention Tri-navi because if they don’t include it, they may end up having a hard time out-competing the G1X (at a similar pricepoint).
/conjecture
I’m guessing that as well. Sony’s 16mp sensor seems to be very popular.
Very excited about this! I’m a “prosumer” P&S upgrader. I eek good shots out of my little Canon elphs but desperately want higher IQ / DR / low light ability. I’ve been on the fence about buying a m4/3rds camera for a while. I like Sony but NEX has never appealed unfortunately due to the unbalanced camera to lens sizes.
The Canon G1X appeals but I hope this Sony could have a brighter lens at telephoto. I don’t care too much about how long the zoom is (3x is fine), but I hope it’s bright! Going with a sensor size somewhat smaller than APS-C (eg 4/3rds size) would have made a brighter lens more feasible so I’m not holding my breath but also understand using an APS-C sensor will mean better economies of scale and if those savings are passed to the consumer than this could be affordable.
Do we know roughly when this will be announced??
Why no one to invest film+digital SLR?
If this compact camera have a phone capability and a wi-fi, I’ll buy this. 🙂
Please please please please be a proper “V” series replacement, with NightShot, etc…
That’s awesome If it has a large aperture and it costs less than the canon gx1.Around 400 dollars .And yes I know I’m pushing it lol.
That’s awesome. If it has a large aperture and it costs less than the canon gx1. Something around 400 dollars. It will be a great deal !!!
If it has a large aperture and it costs less than the canon gx1. Something around 400 dollars. It will be a great deal !!!
Fast AF,large Aperture and Ziess or G lens.. And please be less than five hundred usd
Sorry 4 the multiple replies not intentional .
Interesting. I hope they include good video features (720p 60fps or high speed video recording and not just 1080p 60fps – since editing that is a pain). And I also hope that they don’t mess up where Canon messed up and price it out of its market as well as make it sluggish. Otherwise good idea and I look forward to it.
Is there an announcement date coming soon?
APS-C with a 10X (18-200) would be a real blow on the table
another thing, more of the same
When will it be released to masses?
If Sony would take the lens that DSC-R1 had, which is Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 14,3-71,5mm f/2,8-4,8 , make it an E-mount lens and sell it for the price of DSC-R1 ($999.95 or less), this would be a big hit.
But no, they don’t want to make the customers happy, they just want to make a lot of profit. Shitty company.
Any info on this rumor? I did not see any updates after the 13th announcement of a57. I think a fixed lens large(er) sensor camera would be pretty great.