You still remember that nice 50mm f/1.8 NEX lens? Yeah, it has been announced six months ago and is still not in Stock anywhere! But at least in USA you can preorder the lens at BHphoto (Click here) and it will ship from February 25th! And they are now also accepting preorders on the NEX-7+Black 18-55mm kit lens (Click here). That will ship on March 1st. The NEX-7 is already in Stock in Germany at Amazon (Click here).
Meanwhile Amazon (Click here) had to remove the preorder option from the Sony sensor powered Nikon D800. The reason? Too many preorders!!!
Sony…why not start to seriously compete against the big ones? Instead of giving Nikon the exclusivity on the sensor they should release such a camera first and than give it to Nikon a couple of months after. I do not need a 36 megapixel sensor but it sounds a bit pity that Sony will have to wait at least one year before they can use the same D800 sensor inside their own camera 🙁
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D800 is a beast and I will be very tempted, but holding out to see what Sony offers in 2012.
The IP licensed is worth more than the camera considering volume for Nikon and Cost to produce.
P.S. SONY, PLEASE offer these lenses in BLACK too!!!
Are you referring to NEX lenses?
Yesssss.
I really thought the same that Andrea does sometimes now. Why is Sony waiting so lang until they release cams with the same sensor the build for Nikon? Wasn’t it the same with the A900?
“Why is Sony waiting so lang until they release cams with the same sensor the build for Nikon?”
well if the sensor is really manufactured by Sony and engineered by Nikon then i’d guess Nikon has reserved exclusive rights for it before Sony can use it. On the SOny side this also makes a lot of sense since – as we unfortunately have to agree – their strength seems to be the manufacturing of sensors and not the design of cameras that push canikon from their throne(at least for now :-)). Seems they consider the money they make form the exclusive sensor production as beeing big enough to accept the delay in releasing it on their own cameras ..
Sony will make this sensor better during this year :)) “Let’s give the sensor to Nikon and see, what will happen…”
I agree with you conny. A sensor itself doesn’t make the camera, and Sony still has what to learn in making good cameras.
Plus as you said it was engineered by Nikon, so I don’t see necessary to make that big noise and claim that the sensor is from SONY as it was just manufactured there.
Sony makes great stuff, but so Nikon does.
I think they know better how to collaborate for the best of both companies!
The sensor is clearly ready and available. I can only assume Sony are perfecting the EVF and other aspects of the camera.
Remember, the EVF has to be at least close to the quality of the A900’s OVF. Can they do it? Don’t know, but if they can’t, then they need to release an OVF model in tandem with the EVF model.
“Why is Sony waiting so lang until they release cams with the same sensor the build for Nikon? Wasn’t it the same with the A900?”
Sony say they are evaluating the acceptance of the A77.
I say BS Sony are ALL IN with EVF.
I believe the are having problems with the FF SLT mirror + they are considering to have it lock up for CDAF with no loss of light which would mean a complete redesign of the mirror box.
I’m sure they are also making big improvements for their 3rd generation EVF
According to DPReview
Sony A900 was announced Sept 9 2008
Nikon D3x was announced Dec 1 2008
Sony A700 announced Sept 6 2007
Nikon D300 announced Aug 23 2007
When the A99 is released it will be almost 1 year old tech but who know what goodies Sony have in store.
The FF market segment is very small and it is owned by CaNikon. All Sony can gain is brand awareness.
Pentax users have been waiting forever for a FF camera.
🙂
I just hope my preorder ships soon!
Sony Blew it. If they release a 36MP camera in a year no one will really care, most will have purchased the Nikon D800 (Maybe me). The only way I can see them coming out on top is to produce a 40MP+ camera. PLEASE SONY give us a reason to hang around, and SOON!
You mean the most recent announcement of the 500mm G isn’t enough to keep the faith J? Seems like they bring that up when they desperately need something to talk about. In March, they’ll probably announce it’s available in “Hot Pink Wood Trim” Anniversary Collectors Edition… No small feat for the longest running undelivered lens rumor of all time.
Sarcastic rant over…
I don’t understand Sony not getting 36mp until 2013, and claiming it to be the same chip used in D800 is like advertising it will be year old technology by the time of release. That new honeymoon feeling will be long gone by then. Those who wait may wonder why they just didn’t get the D800 a year earlier. Surely Sony can see the Amazon sales data confirms that people want 36mp.
Apparently the d800 was ready last Summer but was delayed with floods, earthquake etc
d800 test shots on the internet confirm that it was in photographers hands last July.
So if Sony launches 36mp in 2013, it will be two year old already :-$
Sony/Nikon back room negotiations…
Nikon:
“We’ll order 100,000 36mp chips as long as you don’t release the same thing for another year. And when you do, you must keep your noise levels higher than ours”.
Sony:
“OK deal”!
that is probably very accurate
no it is not.
The sensor is not everything. Don’t forget Nikon’s excellent Expeed 3 processor too.
Great for Nikon quality jpegs and such. But I’m confident that for speed, the Sony FF offering will blow those 4-6 fps out of the water with their Bionz chip. And then shoot RAW to negate jpeg differences. 😉
I would not be surprised it not to be true to some extent
The Sony division that produces sensors is completely separate from the camera design, manufacturing and production group. The sensor group is looking for customers and Nikon and others represent a larger customer that Sony does itself. Sony, like Nikon is a customer and a much smaller customer.
In a past life, I was involved in similar negations and it’s not that unusual
36Mp Sensor? Lets see at list 50/1.8 OSS in stock. How much time NEX users must wait for it? 🙁
D800 won’t magically change the way you shoot. If you can’t get great results using a850/900, Nikon won’t help. I doubt anyone here sell prints bigger than what a900 can deliver. Relax, people
+1 The a900 with 24mp is a beast and produces some fine images!!! People need to lay off the strange kool aid and chill. I am tired of hearing everyone say I am going to jump! Jump already then!!! Makes me think the ones saying this are actually Nikon or Canon users trying to convince people that Sony is toast.
OR so rich that they can just re buy all there lenses. Im also sick of people saying Sony needs to learn to make cameras. 70% off what on TV is shot with Sony Camera. And in the STILL side its all minolta engineers. I think they know what they are doing.
I’m sure it will have better autofocus though
The a850 is a great camera, but 9AF points is outdated now
The center point is fantastic, but the outer ones are all still very close to the center, so they aren’t very accurate with 1.4 lenses. I find that with 85/1.4 or 85/1.4, I can only really trust the middle one.
I just manually focus at 1.4. With an M screen it’s no beef to do so.
On a moving subject in low light? My eyes definitely aren’t up to that.
Say a bride walking up the aisle in a dark church. You need ISO3200 and f2 to get a shutter speed of 1/125 to avoid motion blur. On the a900 you can only do that reliably with the center focus point.
Well, I agree, but I don’t shoot weddings.
Pin-sharp continuous autofocus in light too dim to see comfortably in is quite a strain for even the best phase detect autofocus sensors.
Damn u Sony. When the 5d mark 3 is announce, they still have nothing On the table then I am out. Sony can play around with all mid range and entry cameras.
Is not the camera it’s you- go learn to shoot.
It is not the camera it’s you- go learn to shoot. If you think you can’t do something with current cameras, you’re just making excuses.
According to Sony’s “road map”, the 50/1.8 was “released” last year.
Why is it a news?!?
When will see new NEX cameras? Where can we pre-order NEX-D3, NEX-C5 and NEX-5Nb? LOL!
They still haven’t produced enough Nex 7’s… if they let you pre-order those three wish list cameras in April, when do you think you’ll actually have one in your hands? This time next year?
Instead of announcing what they’re GOING to put out, how about announcing when you’re going to fulfill your promises from 6 months ago. I still haven’t been able to get a straight answer from Sony as to when my Nex 7 pre-order will ship, I’ve been told mid-Feb for sure to end of march maybe and everything in between.
“According to Sony’s “road map”, the 50/1.8 was “released” last year.”
No it wasn’t – the roadmap says 2012.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/hot-new-sony-nex-lens-roadmap-need-help-for-translation/
It was to be released initally in December 2011. I ordered it in November with a ship date of Dec 16. Obviously that has changed.
Thai floods disaster and the subsequent problems are one thing and is understandable.
However, if they are ready to launch 3 more NEX cams very soon and have not delivered the 7 or the lenses, then all the sympathy goes down the drain. 🙁
The new sony nex cameras will probably be video cameras.
Where did ‘3 NEX cameras’ come from????!!
Read it here: http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/new-nex-lens-roadmap-and-three-new-nex-cameras-coming-within-2012/
Even if the number is 1 instead of 3, with the paucity of lenses, it is a big problem. Don’t you think? 🙂
The 24/1.8 is a decent lens. With a grip to stabilize the NEX-7, it could be a fabulous lens. => I would like a grip for the NEX-7.
I also would like a more versatile (than the HVL-20) but a small sized flash .
Are these too much to ask for?
So, Sony, instead of new NEX cams, bring out somethings that are really useful, first and then flood the market with hundred different NEX models. 🙂
Amen to that!
Sony still wins here.. it’s their sensor, if Nikon sells a lot of D800, so as sony selling a lot of sensors. I think they just made a dopey 36mp sensor for nikon and let them tweak it themselves, they (sony) have more something under their sleeve for a more polished-premium 36mp sensor that will beat that inside of the D800. We’ll see when the Sony a88 (or whatever they call it) is released as i’m sure this would be head to head with Canon’s 5D MK III and that of the D800 in terms of noise and most esp video quality.
I sincerely hope you’re right, the problem is time though. If you leave it too long everyone will have bought into those other systems and getting them back will be twice as difficult.
Where does it say that D800 and D4 is Sony sensor? Any links? Thx.
Yeah Sony may win but what about their FF users?
We’re a hardy bunch. No one buys expensive Sony gear without releasing Sony has their own (often frustrating) way of doing things.
+1. Proprietary mounts and hot-shoes and memory sticks? Bring them on.
The first two were Minolta’s doing.
Engadget today is showing a video and some pictures of Sony 500mm f/4 lens.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/10/sony-500mm-f-4-g-ssm-lens-hands-on-video/
Oh joy. That’s really going to affect my Sony purchases.
are they ever going to bring the Nex7 to the UK. I’m about to give up and just buy something else. I’m FURIOUS that the world get it but I can’t…wtf
Well Eric at least Sony shop in UK it says “Available for pre-order
Delivers within 5 days of release” http://www.sony.co.uk/product/dsb-nex-7/nex-7k after months of absence.
We’re in the same boat here in Canada, haven’t been able to get a consistent answer as to when it’ll be coming either. I’m giving them till the end of Feb, then I’ll be switching my pre-order to a Fuji X-Pro or Olympus OMD.
It’s already been in the uk since December. I have 2 Nex7s.
It may be that Nikon is heavily involved in the development of their sensors, both engineering and financing. Even if Sony does the production and some of the engineering.
Sony cannot compete with Nikon/Canon, no matter how many cameras they crank out, unless they have a lens line-up on the same level as the competitors have. It has to be HQ, MQ and entry level Q. It has to cover many different needs. On Canonrumors the talk about Canon will introduce a record number of new lenses during 2012 – it is a moving target.
Both Canon and Nikon sells huge amounts of lenses and makes profit too.
Andrea (Admin), I have two questions for you?
1-Are you expecting the new Nex to be better then Nex 7? I think you already said no but wanted to check if you still feel that way. So, wait 3, 4 more months or buy 7 now cause nothing better is coming in the near future?
2-Should I buy Nex 7 with kit lens or buy body only and wait for the G zoom. I don’t want to spend money on overlapping zooms cause I am not rich 🙂 I am ok using primes till the G comes out if it will come out by early 2013. Will the G zoom be worth waiting over the current kit in terms of size and performance?
1) No!
2) buy it with kit lens!
Thanks for the reply Andrea. I guess I’ll order the Nex 7 then.. and I am tired of waiting anyway..But I wish they didn’t change the roadmap on the G though..
Maybe it is a part of the deal , to let Nikon use the sensor first . By providing the sensors to Nikon , Sony makes money without having to do all the marketing ,retail .
Except people who buy DSLR the first time , Most people who love Sony or have a lot of Sony lens will wait and buy Sony anyway.Even if Sony launch a99 first, Nikon fan with several Nikon lens are not likely to switch to Sony . I think , looking at the bottom line , it is a smart move.
You are right. I think Sony should concentrate on developing sensors and get out of the SLR or SLT development and leave that to the professionals. They are just late to the dance. I am really intrigued with the new Nikon camera. Because Sony waits so long between FF offerings a switch may be in my future. I will definately be trying out the 800. The Canon will be too expensive I think.
NIkon people with Nikon gear wouldn’t switch to Sony unless Sony did something extraordinary
But Sony shooters WILL switch to a more trusted system if they think Sony isn’t serious about professional users. Personally I’m on the edge.. I’ll wait a few more months for a firm full frame announcement. If not, d800 here I come.
I am with you!
+1
Count me in !
I switched 6 weeks ago to Canon FF – why didn’t I do this sooner? Good bye Sony – no hard feelings but you did not work hard enough to earn my business
Ordered the 50/1.8, thanks. 😀
I am hoping that the new NEX is a NEX-7 with a 5N sensor. I am a Nikon Shooter with a D700 but I have no real need to go 36MP. I done even need 24Mp but i do want a small camera that I can travel with that has an EVF in a RF style body with great IQ and low light performance. I am using a Pana LX3 to meet that need but it drives me crazy with the lack of ISO performance
You can keep your 5N sensor. I hope it will be a much improved 24mp sensor with equal/better ISO performance than the 16mp.
I would prefer Sony delays bringing out the 36Mp FF camera until 2013. They are firmly committed to SLT/EVF so the A9x should be a real state-of-the-art camera. I have the A77 (just got it back from Sony repair) running 1.04 FW and judging by a lot of posts it still needs tweaking.
I think Sony will come out with their 1st FF which will be an A8x 24Mp camera with improved EVF, low noise and maybe 15fps…
Then the A9x with 36Mp, awesome EVF, really low noise and possibly 20fps shooting… 2 year old sensor?… Who cares! It’s what the CAMERA does with the sensor that’s important…
Regarding the D800: It is not about the Megapixels, it is about the overall package with this body coupled with a decent lens and the FF experience which often feels very good when taking photos. Frankly, it would not matter much if this were 36mp or if was 12mp, the body will most probably be very very nice in the right hands.
Nikon Sendai to produce 30,000 D800 and 5,000 D4 cameras per month
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/02/10/nikon-sendai-to-produce-30000-d800-and-5000-d4-cameras-per-month.aspx/
I reckon by 2014 there may one or two available in my neck of the woods or perhaps on the online. There goes the cigarette money.
Some shops say you should be lucky to receive the D4 by august if you preorder now. And some thought only Sony was having issues. 😉
Don’t you know that these two company (NIKON and SONY) have an agreement? For Nikon here’s a deal, you can supply me your image sensor provided that you will not make a camera with that sensor until 1 year. If you make a FF camera make sure you stay on EVF because if you will go back to OVF then you’re crossing the line. Therefore SONY have to wait and never go back to OVF so people could have a choice. If you like OVF then go for Nikon. If you like EVF then go for Sony. These two company have symbiosis.
Nice we have a member of the board from both companies.
🙂
So, what you’re claiming is a conspiracy between Nikon and Sony.
Nikon will buy sensors from Sony but only if Sony agrees never to make a camera as good as or better than Nikon?
I would love to see proof of that if true.
But it would explain everything, and answer all of the questions raised on this site and other photographic sites everywhere.
Why does Sony basically refuse to succeed at every opportunity given to them and why does Sony management continually sabotage their camera lines.
Yes, it would explain why the obvious never happens.
A nice plot for a fiction novel.
The world is flat
Elvis is alive and well
Man didn’t land on the moon
911 was an American plot
😉
These complaints about the cameras are getting old.
If someone complains about missing NEX lenses, yes, well justified desperation there. Partly due to the disasters and due to some questionable decisions made by Sony.
But for cameras, Come on? Is there anyone here who doesn’t already own a DSLR (maybe more than one)? Is it still working?
What is stopping you from shooting and processing / printing and sharing?
Unless most of us are professional/semi-professional and keep losing job opportunities because their camera is not FF or ISO1600 has ‘too much noise’, we might be missing something.
I’ll tell you one reason it’s a problem that Sony doesn’t keep up with the Jone’s. As a thirty five year self employed photographer, there are many instances where I’ll shoot an executive portrait, or a doctor/lawyer, or even an ad for some notable art director… and guess what… I know for a fact that many of them are going to pull out their brand new Nikon D800 to show it off, to me, the photographer they hired. They will offer me to use their camera to do their shoot with. They’ll be so proud of it and eager to seek praise from a working pro that they wont’ be able to contain themselves.
It’s a matter of perception. If I pull out the same camera, then as far as they are concerned, they are just as good of a photographer than I am. Little do they know that doesn’t make them a photographer any more than buying a stethoscope makes me a high priced brain surgeon. But they have the money to buy into the game. And it is a mind game of sorts. A working pro today has to walk into the job with more than a nice smile and a good portfolio.
Shooting Alpha with 20 year old Maxxum lenses will completely diffuse the camera competition game. They think it’s cool that I shoot their job with lenses that aren’t made any longer, and cannot be put on their CaNikon. They’ve been shown another way. They’ve been intrigued beyond what their photo forums recommend. They can’t compete with the kit I’ve built.
I can’t wait for the NEX-7 to arrive so as to attach the series of 50 year old Pen FT lenses. That will be the only way I can deflate their big CaNikon pridejoy.
What did Confucius say? “No one can strive with the man who doesn’t strive”… Something like that.
Point is, it’s important to me and my client relations to not be perceived as struggling to keep up with their expensive toy purchases. One trick to effective business identity (branding the artist) is to shoot with gear that is obscure, rare, and completely far away from the gear that any rich man can purchase to fit in with the rest of the crowd on the Alaskan Cruise Ship deck.
For them, the megapixel race is a way of justifying their life, just as much as the car they drive. I cannot begin to want to compete with that. I’d be more successful showing up with a Holga or a Polaroid SX70.
If Sony had a 36-40mp camera, EVF or NEX style… Then my clients ask themselves “What does he know that I don’t”… And that’s exactly what I want them to ask themselves.
Sounds like you need to buy a Hasselblad H4X. Or a Hasselblad mock-up. Or maybe just put some black tape over the name plate and create some real mystery.
The Leica S2 looks viable too.
Retro+high end? How about grafting a medium format digital back on to an old TLR?
I think you’ve got something there Carl. I’ve often longed for a digital cartridge to insert into my Polaroid SX-70. The film pack for that camera each contained a battery with enough juice to finish the pack. The chip size would be like a Fuji GX680. I envision interchangeable digi packs that power the camera while filling the self contained SSD. All collapsible to smaller than an iPad.
The reason for stopping me from shooting and processing is, I always confronted by the people who couldn’t understand what am I doing. They thought that I’m stalking somebody or spying a place to plan the attack. Attack of what? Attack of Photowalker.
There is a lot of whining about why Sony is under-derlivering to its customers by not releasing an 36mpx FF today just by virtue it has a sensor. If there is anything learned from A77 debacle is that you do not release anything until it is perfect. (specially pro gear) Nikon has worked for a year on the D800.
Second, Sony currently line-up of cameras (non-mirror) is absolutely the best.
No camera today beats NEX-7 if you take into account the whole package.
Fujis new cam are good on paper, but we do not have any shipped ones and thus we do not know the IQ and video quality and it is expensive as hell.
Look at m4/3, with the exception of the new OM-D, they suck. Their sensors are old and low light capability and video quality is no match for NEX-7 and NEX-5n for that matter. I tried the new Panny GX1, nice but at 800:- CHF it is to expensive. IQ did not match my NEX-5n which is sold today for 550:- (50% less)
Yes, the lenses (NEX) are its weakness for the moment and yes, I would like the company would put an effort here instead of new Alpha models, but I have the Zeiss 24mm/f1.8 and it is amazing. It is the sharpest & fastest lens I have owned and at 225g one of the lightest. But the company needs to deliver the 50mm/f.18 and the 55-210 asap.
I do not believe for a moment that Sony would not release its FF if it was ready just to give Nikon a head start. Lets hope Sony takes its time and get the new alpha line perfect while fixing outstanding issue on the A77.
Jack
If Nikon was working on the 800 for a year, what was Sony waiting for. Did Sony just wake up a few years after releasing the 850 and decide maybe we should start working on a new improved FF. We heard that there was suppose to release a FF this Spring. I imagined they have been working on it for sometime. Now we have not heard much about since finding out that it was pushed back to the fall. My guess, and I hope I am wrong because it will signal my move to Nikon, Sony is have problems with their prototype FF SLT. If they fail with this effort they may never recover in the FF market.
I guess Sony was working on NEX-7, A77, A65, million models of TVs, PS4, etc during 2010/2011.
The D700 came out in 2008, and has struggled (natural disasters, appropriate sensors etc etc) and it took them 4 years to update it. FF cameras is difficult as it is directed to pros and they are tough crowd.
Jack,
I can agree with you on the 7 and 77 since Sony seem to have difficulty even supplying them, but the TV and PS4 are different divisions. You could have thrown in audio as well. I sure hope the TV and game console divisions are not splitting time with making cameras. That would be like GE saying we won’t be getting your MRI to you this month because we also make light bulbs. I too hope they get it right, but if they lag too far behind Nikon it will hurt sales of their camera from new people getting into photography and Sony users on the fence. If sales are poor they may eventually trash their DSLR or SLT production and that does not help any of us.
Have a great day!
+1
Someone from Sony was quoted on this site a few months back had used the word challenging in describing the difficulty making the FF SLT camera.
I’m not a fanboy but a photographer that has an investment in this platform. I had planned to replace my a850’s in 2013 and I’m resigned to, if necessary move to a different system that I can continue to invest in without all of the drama.
As I said, I’m a photographer not a fanboy and the camera is nothing more than a tool that I use to create images for my customers.
Sony, Canon or Nikon no big deal all of the are great cameras.
The last sentence pretty much sums it up. Cameras from the same generation and price point are more similar than different.
Some on the internet like to generate hysteria over some of the most pathetically minor differences between cameras, acting like a five point difference in DXO scores will spell the difference between them finding paid work or not or something.
+1!
+2
“In terms of creating Translucent Mirror for full-frame, I think everyone knows the challenges of creating a Translucent Mirror, particularly creating one of size, so it’s not for the faint of heart, but we’ll see.” – Mark Weir
FF SLT camera may take more time to develop than A77.
Don’t look at camera brand, just look at the camera to fit your needs.
“FF SLT camera may take more time to develop than A77”
That’s it in a nut shell.
Between the FF SLT mirror and making as big a leap in improvement of the EVF of the A99 as was from the A55 to A77.
Maybe more.
More time in development is not an excuse. Ford and Macintosh don’t stop making existing products under the reasoning that new tech hasn’t been fully developed yet.
Sorry, you can’t get a new Mac right now because we haven’t figured it out yet?
Sony would do very well with releasing an updated a901, with the 36mp chip… right now. Don’t make any changes to the a900 whatsoever, except for a larger chip. It would sell like hot cakes.
In fact, they could even strip it down, no automation, full manual (even focusing), lower the buffer rates and settle for more noise than the Nikon… and it would still sell great, right now. People would buy it on the merit of the 36mp chip alone. I would.
The D800E is a tempting camera thanks to no AA filter and having a 100% OVF. It will be great for landscapes & Nikon has 3 T/S lenses
The real problem is that Alpha is dead. Why use an Alpha body, when you can mount ANY lens on a NEX. A FF NEX, with an EVF, that is what is needed.
Yes I am impressed with the Nikon D800, but if Sony releases the rumored hybrid body, in a more robust body than the present NEX. I will drop the idea of switching to Nikon. The All Lens camera that could be the future, and the NEX may deliver it.
I am just not sure, if Sony’s top management has enough vision to see that. And they have to do something. All those little point and shoot pocket cameras, Sony relies on today, will be annihilated by future personal digital devices like iPhones, Androids, etc.
It would not be the first time, that Sony did not hear the right signals.
And one more thing…
Sony can probably make more money by selling sensors to Nikon, than selling their own FF bodies.
Wow!
Very well said!
“Why use an Alpha body, when you can mount ANY lens on a NEX. A FF NEX, with an EVF, that is what is needed.”
Maybe to hand hold a 400mm lens.
Maybe to have full manual control without menu diving.
Maybe to have IBIS.
Maybe the option to have vertical grip with 2 batteries to shoot all day.
😉
“Why use an Alpha body, when you can mount ANY lens on a NEX. A FF NEX, with an EVF, that is what is needed.
Maybe to hand hold a 400mm lens.
Maybe to have full manual control without menu diving.
Maybe to have IBIS.
Maybe the option to have vertical grip with 2 batteries to shoot all day.”
That can all be incorporated in a NEX.
Maybe with an A-mount sized body wrapped around an 18 mm flange back E-mount ergonomics would would allow hand holding large lenses and provide better manual control but why bother?
When PDAF is on sensor just remove the mirror like Pentax did with there K01 all be it with CDAF
If IBIS was possible with NEX E-mount I think we would have seen it in the $1200 Nex7
All A-mount have IBIS why not NEX?
Small 18mm flange back E-mount bodies come at a price of ergonomics,lack of IBIS,lens design,weak corners,CA
Maybe with the weakly rumored Hybrid A/E FF-mount coming in 20?? I might agree with you but at what price?
🙂
A big full frame ibis nex is exactly what I want. Right now I’m using a nex and a 5dII , both with mostly legacy lenses.
I’m stitching together 800 megapixel images a lot of the time.
I’m thinking about getting the d800 , but a big nex would serve my needs the best short of going to medium format.
Any news on the availability of the nex-7 kit in Australia?
Hi guys, quick question for those who tried the Nex-7. Will there be an option to turn off LCD viewfinding or turn the LCD layout to the same as DSLR’s, I think it could save battery power.
Ha ha. This is sort of like floating around in fantasy land.
Discussing future availability dates of Sony cameras with a straight face. Describing the value of NEX-7 models when people on pre-orders for over half a year are still waiting, lenses are long delayed, and said cameras sell used for a premium on auction sites, so scarce are they in the real world.
Nikon as a company shows a level of maturity in manufacturing and marketing that makes Sony look like amateurs. Sony announced NEX-7 but through a combination of bad luck and bad business- but most of all, failure to insure a shippable quantity of stock prior to announcement- lets it fail to ship product for months and months with hardly a note of criticism by fanboys and shills.
Nikon by contrast announces a brand new camera line with new dedicated lenses (Nikon One family), and ships within a couple weeks of announcement. Nikon realizes it is unable to actually ship the new product (D800) so delays announcement until it is sure it has a reliable pipeline of product to deliver.
The lesson is that while both may have (allegedly) good products, one is unreliable at best, the other is a mature business partner.
This must drive the design engineers crazy, but it’s not an accident. No one forces Sony to pre-announce vaporware, it’s a conscious decision. And it takes a long long time to build back credibility.
Unfortunately cannot argue the point. It may be the reason some may jump to the 800 in the coming months. The only question will be the 800 or the 800E.
Yeah, it was pretty dumb of Sony to announce their flagship cameras right before the flooding. They should have delayed the floods till after everybody has received a camera.
If Sony had release 36mp camera, everybody will gone berserk. So Sony let Nikon does the talk because Nikon produces real photographic gear, so 36mp must be good. After that, Sony can sell big MP camera. Pretty smart from business point of view.
We just got the 50mm, we were very suprised to get him this early. We took some shots at the zoo of Antwerp: http://nexblog.be/2012/02/13/50mm-e-mount-eerste-indruk-en-fotos/762/ My colleague was very impressed.
hmm surprised (not really) with how many are complaining about Sony not using the 36MP first.. We know that if Sony had used it first, (nearly) everyone would be complaining about TOO MANY MP & NOISE, but because Nikon engineered it and are using it, the complaints are that Sony is stupid for not using the 36MP sensor and debating to use a 24 or 28 MP (and chose the 24, for better low light and fps) when people we’re shouting for Sony to keep the MP on the A99 down after the A77 w/ 24MP APSC down.. People will always find fault and excuses to complain and/or justify their envy of what they don’t have but another does.