This is the new Sony lens roadmap. Click on the image to see the large version! According to the roadmap there will be four new lenses this year and four new lenses in 2013. My guess based on rpevious rumors is that some of the 2013 lenses will be actually announced within 2012. If you read from top the lenses are:
G standard zoom (2013)
higher magnification zoom lens (2012)
standard zoom (2012)
wide zoom (2012)
middle magnification zoom lens (2013)
big aperture prime (2012)
middle range prime (2013)
pan cake (2013)
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it says G high performance standard zoom
high quality zoom
standard zoom
wide angle zoom
fast standard prime
medium telephoto
thin-type ‘snap’? not sure what it means
I guess the “thin snap” one is a pancake lens
so then the G standard zoom, middle range prime, and middle mag zoom lens have been delayed to 2013???
Well…damnit. I got the NEX-7 banking on the supposed “fact” of the G zoom coming out later this year…
The chart looks to me the “G standard zoom” is meant to be sold for Christmas 2012, instead of being delayed to 2013.
That’s being really, really hopeful.
Makes me wonder what that “other” standard zoom is. 5X image stabilized power zoom anyone?
supposed Fact? Its not a FACT until Sony says its making the lens and its shipping.
I think Sony have pulled a fast one here. Along with the roadmap, they’ve been showing lens mock ups for some time now. And they have since released all of them except the wide zoom and G zoom.Now they’re going to release it in maybe 10 months time ? With so few lenses and so many bodies, including a premium body, this really sucks. No doubt the NEX 6 will be out before this lens. Good grief, I might find myself getting a Samsung and their rumored 16-80.
Looks like a good variety, even though it’s taking them a while to develop and manufacture.
People should keep in mind that unlike many of the other imaging companies, Sony has had to maintain both a large DSLR product line AND a large mirrorless product line. Considering that, I think they’ve been doing a decent job without spreading their resources too thin.
So we have to be forgiven to them because they have to support another mount? Come on.
Carl Zeiss and G lens:
G standard zoom
Zoom lens:
higher magnification zoom lens
standard zoom
wide zoom
middle magnification zoom lens
Prime:
big aperture prime
middle range prime
pan cake
To wait for 50/1.8 OSS or not to wait? That is the question! 🙂
Not wait. I got an Olympus with an adapter
And what about OSS?
It will be worth the wait, should be out next month. It is going to be a fantastic lens, especially for people who prefer to do portraits in all natural light.
From top to down:
G High Performance Standard Zoom
Superzoom
Standard zoom
Ultra wide zoom
superzoom (not as “super” as the above)
Fast standard prime
medium telephoto prime
Pancake
Here’s the roadmap image with translations written in.
http://tinyuploads.com/pics2/nexroadmap.gif
“big aperture prime” ? That’s vague to say the least. Hopefully something short telephoto.
Zooms, bleugh.
Seriously…do we need 8 zoom lenses for the NEX? Assuming the standard zoom will be a 17-50 2.8 (and probably the eventual kit lens for the 7 series), what exactly would be the specs of a “middle magnification zoom”?
16-50 I guess
It’s much easier to design for such a short flange distance than for SLRs
Consumers like zooms.
Ever tried explaining a prime lens to a non-photographer. They look at you like you’re crazy, and think your camera is crap because it can’t zoom.
It’s especially fun when you’re using a huge telephoto. They totally expect it to be a 100x zoom or something.
The most asked question I get is “how many megapixels does it have”. I just shrug.
As usual, japanese camera companies don’t listen – no pancake for another ~1.5years is just disappointing – how hard could it be to make 30/2 like Samsung has or similar ? oh well..
And this is the reason I ultimately decided on the Olympus OM-D over the NEX-7. I arguably prefer the NEX-7 body (aside from AF speed and lack of weather seals), but no pancake primes until 2013 is ridiculous. A 30mm f/1.8 pancake should have been the very first lens Sony made for the NEX system.
By the end of the year even Fuji’s lens line up is going to be better IMO. Sony will have more lenses, but Fuji will have the better and more useful lenses. Sony needs to hire more photographers and fewer marketing guys.
an OM? i just hope you dont shoot with your left eye!
Sony definitively should have a few more lenses out to compete with the m43 folks, but … personally I find this to be no deal braker at all.
I intend to order the NEX7 + 1.8/24 this spring. Apart from that I already have a handful of manual primes in the range from 16 to 90mm, and they will fill most my needs for quite som time.
The G zoom will be probably be my next purchase … 2.8/24-70 would be great 🙂
30/2 without oss? Not interesting. For what?
It’s really compelling to those who want a tiny lense and don’t know enough about photography to care about OSS.
Give me a 30mm, f1.8 or faster WITH OSS and I don’t care if it’s the size of my 18-200!
I’m glad Sony doesn’t listen to these pancake fanatics.
I don’t know if you noticed, but most primes don’t have IS.
It seems to me that Sony makes more cameras than lenses.
They should call it, INTERCHANGEABLE CMAERA instead of interchangeable lens!
Good one! 🙂
Sadly, it is TRUE. 🙁
Good! 🙂
lol totally agree. Interchangeable camera system. I have lot of old minolta lens to be interchanged with new sony camera bodies. 😛
The next one shall be great at high ISO. I think Sony have made more camera bodies than ever made new lens. Mostly just Minolta re-badged 😛
Sometimes wonder how many people at Sony are developing lens. That department is clearly understaffed…
Totally true. But they really evolve since a100. Every body they produce is better than previous. Maybe, when they will perfect iso and mp level into limits, they may concentrate on glass. And 8 lens into 2 years is more than a-mount got in 4 years.
Most true thing I’ve ever read on this website!
G lens was supposed to be this year – sorry Sony, not willing to wait.
more prime lens please 😀 go sony goo 😀
andrea how about A-mount lens road map? 😀 thank you ^^
It would look like a roadmap of rural Iowa. A whole lotta nothing.
C’mon, Sony … too slow,
Put a wiggle in it!
It seems to me they only have one guy building those cameras. And probably he is having his vacation this year LOL.
How come all other vendors create lenses in a reasonable time?! SAD.
I wonder what kind of big aperture prime will be out? I wanna wait for the 50mm f1.8 price seem a steller !! Thanks for the info
A-Mount roadmap!!!!Pleaseeeeeeeee
It is really disappointing that Sony is so slow to make new lenses.
I was waiting for the G standard zoom this year and, of course, one good pancake.
I think that the lenses are made in Japan, not in Thailand…
There is no excuse for such slowness!!!
translation http://ow.ly/8WFho
Andrea & Sony
Show us the A-mount lenses, please 🙂
We need new lenses for a77!!!
Dont worry so much, tamron and sigma will show their e lens roadmap soon.
meh..
pancake 2013
I hope my new 17-50mm, constant f2.8 with active OS is in there!
Don’t care if is the same size as 18-200 lens.
Just make it BLACK PLEASE!!
higher magnification zoom lens (2012) .. but the 18-200 … what it is??
standard zoom (2012) .. and the 18-55??
I really don’t understand why they are duplicating the zoom line. video optimized zoom, maybe?
(the 17-50! – why not 16-50 😀 – would be a nice thing- )
P.S.
I really need a 20 mm pancake :d the zeiss one is too expensive!
Check out Sigma 19 f/2.8
So we can either have a big aperture prime or a pancake, why can’t we have both? I understand we can’t have a 35/2 pancake lens because of the flange distance, but can’t we have a 35/2 in the size of the Sigma 30/2.8? Why does a big aperture prime have to by physically huge? Bah. It’s a shame Samsung NX, Fuji mirrorless and m43 can pull it off but Sony can’t.
To be fair, the Fuji 35 f/1.4 isn’t a “pancake” lens (as small as the 16mm for e-mount), so if Sony can pull off a 35 like Fuji did, it would be nice for sure 🙂
It does make you wonder though: if it is a 35mm, and they alreay have a 50 (short portrait), 24 (wide-ish street), and 16 (wide-angle), what will the pancake be? Personally, I’m excited to see what Sony will do with the system 😉
I guess the wide aperture prime will be either 35 or 85.
*here hoping for 35/1.4*
Now that I finally have a NEX-7 coming and the Zeiss in my hands, I am really antsy about the lens situation. Seriously, screw the pancake. Give me a wider Zeiss! 35mm equivalent is nice, but I’d love a fast 24mm equivalent. With the G standard zoom, the Zeiss, the 50mm, and the 18-200, I’m almost have the set I want for the NEX. Just need an excellent macro.
Since Sony aren’t doing a pancake in 2012 it’ll give me more time to wait for the competition to develop their offerings.
Why they launch so many zoom lens, now we have:
1855 Standard Zoom
55210 tele zoom
18200 higher magnification zoom lens
My wild guess:
1650 2.8G high performance standard zoom (2013)
16105 3.5-6.3 higher magnification zoom lens (2012)
1870 3.5-5.6 standard zoom (2012)
1118 4.5-5.6 wide zoom (2012)
24-105 3.5-5.6 / 70-200 f4 middle magnification zoom lens (2013)
It’s nice to see a roadmap…
But from past experiences over the years roadmaps from Sony aren’t worth the paper (or however displayed) they are printer on.
I sometimes think that the roadmaps are just a tactic used by the marketing people to keep us the consumer interested and to keep us from moving to a different platform. Even as a Sony full-frame shooter, the hype generated by Sony and others about the a700 replacement and all of the new technologies around it (remember the rumor that the a700 replacement would have a useable ISO in the 100 of thousands) kept me from moving to a Nikon D700 as my second camera for street work, as I hoped that the new Sony a77 would better the Nikon’s ISO performance.
A roadmap can do the same buy telling users and prospect users that more stuff is on the way and go a head and buy into this growing platform.
I my case, the roadmap is making me Reconsider My Decision to switch from Canon DSLRs to the NEX 7. I will NOT be buying a Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 today, as I had planned. I need an 85mm soon, not in a year or two.
What I want is a small/light camera with HIGH QUALITY primes. I’m not a fanboy, so I don’t care who’s system I get. The Olympus E-M5 looks good, but the 75mm f/1.8 wont be available until the end of the year 🙁 The Fuji X-Pro1 has the high quality primes I need, 🙂 but it also has the Hybrid Viewfinder 🙁 Meh !!!
Maybe the best thing to do is wait for Canikon to bring out a PRO mirrorless system. My Canon DSLRs/lenses will work as well next week as they last week.
“What I want is a small/light camera with HIGH QUALITY primes” …
uhm… Samsung?
Samsung 30mm f2,
Samsung 85mm f1.4
Samsung 60mm f2.8 Macro
get a Samsung NX200 or just wait for the (not so far) NX20 if you need the viewfinder 🙂
I’ve never even seen a Samsung 🙂 Is the Samsung 85mm f1.4 as good as a Nikon 85mm f/1.4D ?
The camera will be used for commercial work, so an EVF is needed. I can’t hold a camera at arms length for an 8 hour shoot 🙂 🙂
When will the NX20 be announced? Until Samsung gives us a delivery date and price, it’s just vaporware 🙂
Maybe the best answer is to get an F to E mount adapter and hope that Nikon makes a mirrorless.
Canon “PRO” mirror less= system for fanboys who jack off on specs but can’t shoot worth a damn.
I have three lenses for my NEX, none of them are “great” but I sure am getting PRO results.
Canon is for people who don’t shoot, and just brag about specs. Which is why they are able to sell you crap for too much money.
Why whining about the lack of (pancake) primes? If the e-mount system doesn’t appeal to you, you shouldn’t have bought it or should not worry about it when you didn’t buy a NEX yet. I will patiently wait until sony releases a 30-35mm f2 prime. I will not buy any NEX until they release it, pancake or not.
I don’t understand the differences between all those zooms. A 16-50 is a standard zoom. However, that focal range can also be covered with the G zoom, or one of those may be a 16-80 or something like that. But then we have still a higher and a middle magnification zoom lens, what are those supposed to deliver?
My hopes are for the pancake and wide aperture prime. I really hope the wide aperture prime is a 30/35mm f1.4. I don’t care what size it is, I will buy it. What will the middle range prime be? There is already a 50mm, so will it be an 85mm? Not quite middle range…
Any suggestions about the colors of the lenses in the road map? focal length range or class?
Right- it should be a 35 mm or so prime. Hopefully faster than f2 but maybe not by much. Big question is if it will have OSS. Who cares what size it is.
i wonder how many potential NEX buyer Sony had lost becoz of their slow response on making lens.
aside from an enthusiast standpoint, probably majority of NEX/M4/3 buyers dont buy any other lens. so Sony “may” be doing the right thing from a financial stand point.
i would love to have a ~28mm F2 pancake. ~60mm F2 for portrait
some good zoom like 17-50 F2.8
24-105 F4.
i am really happy with my NEX 5n, (upgrade from NEX 3), willing to give up my big Canon 5dc if i can get some quality lens
I bought a nex5 as soon as it came out with a 16mm pancake and kit zoom. I love the nex but the lens availability is terrible. No normal prime less than f<3.5 for 3 years. This is how to kill a system
Not even close to 3 years. NEX-3 and NEX-5 were announced in May 2010.
ADMIN: Andrea could you please level with me… It seems like Sony is focusing all its efforts on Nex and its lenses and does’t really seem to take the pro market too seriously. The reason I’m concerned is I have invested alot of money into sony FF I have three sets of fully stocked camera bags. I love all my sony gear, and this is my sole source of income. I’m really starting to believe I should of stayed with canon. Please give me your honest opinion.
Best Anthony
Out of curiosity, what Sony pro lenses have you stocked up and which are the ones that are lacking ?
I own a studio and over the past years as I have expanded and made camera bags so I could shoot up to 3 wedding in a day. they all have a900 a 16-35z 24-70 70-200g 135z 85z I also have a few sigmas like the 50 1.4 and fish eye…ect I would like to see some updates better weather sealing a 12-24/35 2.8 an up dated 70-200 a pro level 50mm.
what really has me worried is all this talk of evf a99 I cant work with the a77 I tried its just not what i want in the studio or at a wedding I really love the a900 OVF canon and nikon see the value in it. also some of my a900 are getting glitchy. and im hesitant to keep buying 900s
IC, I think Sony will go EVF for its Alphas moving forward. Admin mentioned there may be one FF with OVF. But if they are able to implement another OLED with 5million DOTS in the EVF, with faster readout to processor and dynamic range, I think the EVF issue would be over.
Canikon has not moved to EVF purely they didnt bother to innovate beyond the existing skeleton. I think in the future EVF will just gets better and better =)
You know, people say this about weather sealing, but I’ve never had a lens damaged or anything else by rain.
Last time was my a850 and Zeiss 16-35/2.8 in a 2hr long torrential rainstorm in the Amazon jungle. That’s not normal rain – it’s like being in a shower at full blast.
Dried everything out, and not a single problem. I almost feel like the “weather sealing” thing is just marketing, and reassurance. And basically, Sony builds the cameras and lenses well but they don’t want to PROMISE that you can use it in the rain.
But I agree with you – we need a better 50 like Canon, and a super-wide 14-24 like Nikon!
Seriously, I’m not why people keep crying about pancake. I just opened my box for the Zeiss 24mm. My first thought was “Wow, it is smaller than I thought!” It is a lot smaller than it looks on the web. I will accept wide primes this size. Have those who are crying for pancake held one of the Zeiss? It is small and light!
I agree , I was expecting a big zeiss due to the box, end up I thought its quite small. Now is to wait for the NEX 7 to complement my other alphas and A mount lenses.
i agree with previous comments a 35/2 or 30/2 lens is essential, pancake or not. i’m using a canon fd 28/2 right now, but the adapter makes it bigger then i’d like. i would have gotten a 35/2 pancake if they had one planned, but am thinking of going ahead and getting a voigtlander 35/1.4 nokton now. going to cost at least $600 :[
Need faster standard zoom quickly.
Does Blue markers mean that it will be Carl Zeiss?
Grey for standard lences and Black for G lences?
If yes, It will be really great. If not, I go to FUJI.
Grey have all been announced at an earlier stage. The blue are new to the roadmap. Black is G, and already announced. The only G/Zeiss lens planned is the G-zoom.
Looking at the image and the lens positions it seems that the guessed “2013-lenses” are scheduled “Late 2012” and not “2013”?
You know what would be amazing?
If Voigtländer made e-mount primes.
^Agreed.
+++1
they make, you just need an adapter, their lenses are all manual focus…
The CV 21 f4 is one of my go to lenses on the NEX. Great color and crisp sharp images. Since the 24 1.8 has come out I use it less, but it is a true pancake if that is you deal
Holy Jesus almighty!! How many zoom lenses does one need?
Aren’t the 18-200 and 18-55 enough for the masses?
How about releasing some prime lenses proportional to the size of the cameras?
Well, Nikon currently stocks and sell 12 different zoom lenses for their APS-C format cameras. This has been the case for years. So clearly there is demand for various zooms.
Looks to me that announced “Standard Zoom” will only become a SEL-1855 replacement and some of these announced lenses could simply replace the SEL-16F28 or the SEL-18200, since these first generation E-Mounts don’t really match with the NEX-7’s and future sensors.
Anyway, beside the already known SEL-50F18 only that “Large Aperture Standard Prime” sounds really promising to me if it’ll include OSS.
I would have loved to see a VCL-ECA1 Anamorphic 1.33x Converter in the last section…
I’m not agree the 18-200 deliver very good results with the Nex 7 !
but we need a high quality zoom too !
and of course prime lenses
Where are the second pancake that have been announced to be delivered in 2012 at the Sony presentation in New-York (bhphotovideo store) ???????????
Some good news will be to have fast lenses with also good manual mechanical focus and not electronic, the electronic (in every nex lenses) is no precise for video shooting.
Not enough wide and ultra wide lenses, that´s disappointing for me. Voigtländer seems to be the only way to go in the near future.
I don’t understand many of the complaints. I’m positively surprised.
According to the RM, we might have the following scenario by 2013:
Sony NEX Primes: 16, 20(?), 24, 30, 35(?), 50, 60(?)
Sony NEX Zoom: Plenty (wide, standard, HP, super zoom etc)
So by 2013 we will have 15 Sony lenses covering almost all popular FL’s (exotic wides must be covered by legacy lenses or 3rd party it seems) plus 3rd party such as Tamron, Sigma etc. I just hope that there will but no more unnecessary low spec lenses such as the 30/3.5, this should’ve been an F2 or similar.
Fuji promise 9 lenses over the next two years, and we will probably never see a super zoom.
So both Sony and Fuji owners can be looking fwd to what seems to be a great future…Sony is just more to my taste.
Well said Spaceman.
Looks like a good lineup for a compact camera system imo
And third parties are jumping on board. Sigma, Tamron and Rokinon/Samyang already have lenses out.
The NEX is hot stuff, and it will be a complete system no doubt. It’s early days yet!!
Everyone is waiting for that 2fkin8 G zoom lens right? 😉
I agree with calxn. The 24 is nowhere near as large as people imagine. I dont care for pancakes as long as they perform as good as the 24. Has anyone here criticising its size has ever really tried it? its performance outweights its ‘size’. I have the 7 and with it I was able to delivery two assignments already. The nex 7 is the first camera that has truly won my love for shooting and the quality of the will make me sell my 5DII gear. True, its about a stop worse when it comes to ISO (I shot with both) but with a great lens like the 24 at 1.8 (I used the zeiss 35/2 for the canon) and its flexibility, it wins in my books.
I got a 35mm 1.2 nokton for it and it is, truly, a great combo. I am not in the need to wait for sonny to cover my basics (35, 50, and 24 or 21) because I got voigtlander and (if my wallet allows) zeiss with that dandy 15mm 2.8. In reality, if sony delivers a great 35mm delivering what the zeiss delivers, I dont care if its the same size and weight (which are still small for its respective apertures if you think of a 1.4 leica version)
Many here care for the small size but, as we have seen from the meagre 16mm, the price paid can be that of image quality. I am happy that Sony delivered the nex 7. The Fuji is tempting for its price (the body and lens combo is near a nex 7 with the 24mm zeiss) but its auto focus is said to be worse than sony’s. Also, that focus assist and peaking? brilliant, mate, brilliant.
Please Sony, deliver us quality primes because I know those in reportage agencies that would buy into your system in a blink.
PS: A final comment on people wanting primes and OSS at the same time. Learn to hold your cameras. With 1.4/1.8/2, and ISO 800/1600, only a bad pulse needs OSS.
On a final note for those thinking Samsung is new recipient of the optical gods’ gift to men… why dont you see:
http://www.photozone.de/samsungnx/695_samsungnx16f24 (16mm, only good at the centre and the rest is bollocks)
http://www.photozone.de/samsungnx/694_samsungnx20f28?start=1 (fares better than the 16mm but it wont be as good as the zeiss AND its only a 2.8, not a 1.8)
http://www.photozone.de/samsungnx/696_samsungnx30f2 (the better of the lot and the only real promising lens in Samsung. If Sony can deliver a similar lens for the NEX, we are nice and dandy…fast aperture and sharp)
If anyone doubts the 24mm… see
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1452/cat/82
The centre is like that at 1.8… very sharp
You think that sharp, see Pany 20/1.7: http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1295/cat/all
Both wide open, the 20mm is sharper. Stop the 20mm down a bit to f/2, and it’s incredibly sharp; the 24mm would have to be at f/2.8-4 to match. Overall, IQ is close. Even the FoV is not far off: 20mm is equivalent to 40mm on FF and the 24mm is 36mm. But, the 20/1.7 is smaller (1″) and cheaper (<$350) than the 24/1.8.
The 50mm OSS (http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1451/cat/all) is the other good E-Mount lens and is sharp wide open too but not as sharp as the Olympus 45mm (http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1443/cat/all) at the same aperture. The 45mm is a small but very good portrait lens with a 90mm equiv. FoV. The 50mm is equivalent to 75mm, which is not long enough for portraits (to me) and too long as a normal.
Same story with the kit zooms, the Oly 14-42mm (http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1400/cat/all) is way sharper and smaller than the E 18-55mm (http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1345/cat/all).
I know, m4/3 has a smaller sensor and NEX have very high IQ, blah, blah. Don't get me wrong, I like the NEX cams, especially the 7 and almost regretted getting a PEN when the NEX line was introduced. But, the m4/3 is a more complete system with better lenses and all PEN's can use real flash guns, where as only the NEX-7 have a standard Sony hotshoe. If I had a NEX, I would've gotten tired of waiting for interesting lenses.
Instead, I'm enjoying my 9-18mm, 20/1.7, 45/1.8, 14-42mm and 40-150mm, and probably will get the 75/1.8 when that comes out, provided it isn't more expensive than the 12/2.
Who knows, I might pick up a NEX body if a bright E 35mm is ever released. One can hope.
I want OSS and I don’t want to learn to hold ones more. I already did it every possible ways describing on photo forums. 3 month of traning gives me ~10-15% improvment of my hands, OSS gives me 3 to 4 stops directly and traning free. I also don’t want to use part working ISO 1600 on my 5N frequently. Give me 5 examples where you can do it with 1/8s-1/10s on 50mm and without OSS. Because with OSS I can.
effort has gone out of style hasn’t it
Sorry: RE: to Ronnbot.
But I know a magazine wouldnt take half-ass 12mp from Olympus or Panasonic and their 16mp sensor isnt that great.
This is a major disappointment. Sony has two very hot NEX bodies, the NEX-5n and the NEX-7, and only one genuinely “pro” quality lens: the Zeiss 24mm. But according to this roadmap, they aren’t planning to release any more Zeiss glass for the NEX system. So in reality, the only E-mount lens that is capable of matching the quality of the NEX bodies is that one Zeiss, and there won’t be any others. The G series and regular lenses are OK, but not stellar, and definitely not up to the high standard of the bodies. Why any manufacturer would design two great bodies without a kickass line of lenses to go with them just boggles my mind. Sony has totally dropped the ball with the NEX line.
Well said!
Having all tree lenses available 16/F2.8, 18-55/f3.5-5.6 and Zeiss 24mm/f1.8, on the Zeiss makes the cut, and it is indeed an fantastic lens.
One needs to remember that Sony traditionally is a (video) camera maker and only got into DSLR when purchasing Minolta camera division in 2006. It has not (yet) built a culture of lens making. I am not sure if any of the senior management is a photographer. Sony engineers are amazing and know how to build a camera but need cultural change to focus on lenses.
My wished would be:
– 20mm/f2.0 (pancake)
– 24-70mm/f2.8
– 85mm/f1.8
Adding the lenses available today:
24mm/f1.8
50mm/f1.8
55-210/f4.5-6.3
16mm/f2.8
18-55/f3.5-5.6
These together would be a great lineup!
I also agree with Edgars – Why keep it secret? Makes no sense to me.
Jack
I really didn’t get a point of such charts. Why to keep in secret lens details. Sony scared that Pany or Oly will make the same zoom or prime lens? It keeps me away of buying into NEX system.
For light trips will take a57 with few primes…
For the Nex 7 it’s true that we need high quality lens even if they are not small lenses !!
With the G mens i was hoping an other Zeiss lens, like a portrait lens for example !!
Please Sony give us an other CZ !!!!!
I agree, but they already have a non-Zeiss (not even a “G”) 50mm (if they ever get around to actually shipping it). Given Sony’s actions so far, I don’t see them offering a 50mm or 70mm Zeiss. They probably think they already have the portrait prime category adequately covered. Unfortunately.
Been on the fence, love the idea of the 7, but the range of m43 lenses is just so much better in term of size/quality/cost. This road map just confirmed it.
What I’d love to see now is a Sony sensor in a m43 body. Sony sensor, m43 lenses, best of both worlds.
I am shocked. People wants 17-50/2.8, 24-70/2.8…Somebody cares about weight?
If Panasonic can create fast zooms that are small and light, Sony should be able to, too.
Wow do you guys think “big aperture prime” could be a 35mm? 😀
Could be. They already have a big aperture 24mm and a big aperture 50mm. A 35mm would be equivalent to a 50mm lens on a full frame camera. It could also be a longer lens, like a 70mm.
According to the English version of the roadmap at DPR it says ‘Large Aperture Standard’. So I am definitely guessing 30-35mm 1.8 considering they already have a 50mm (which is the old ‘standard’ but 35mm approx on APS-C is standard). So unless they irritatingly release a 50 f1.4 I think it is fairly safe to assume a 35mm this year.
I guess it comes down to just how good the lenses are that come out……
But it is interesting that Sony doesn’t see a need to market most of the lenses as G-lenses or Zeiss.
Maybe Sony’s lenses are just that good…………………
Or
Maybe this camera is not important enough to Sony or have the correct mount to really build a future on for some reason.
The NEX-7 does make a nice still image and often an image just a bit better than the a77.
If this road map is accurate and current, it’s showing the already announced 50mm F1.8 OSS arriving more or less concurrently with 3 new zooms and a prime. That would suggest an announcement could be imminent since all the bar graphs representing these lenses start near the beginning of 2012.
Everyone just cries and cries.
The system isnt even 2 years old. Look back at the development of other systems and you will see we are not going that slow.
I have a 5n myself and would love to have more lenses, but everyone knows what they are into when entering a new system.
Actually, this road map has more lenses than the last one, so its not like youe are being let down in terms of quantity. If your not patient enough or dont like to use legacy lenses, then do go into a new system!
Thin “Snap” Prime… huh… Clearly they took my advice for a collapsible lens design, satisfying both IQ and those who hunger for sweet Pancakes.
And just what do you mean Sony, when you say, “Large-Aperture”? More f1.8’s? If so, please rethink and take a cue from Voigtlander and SLR Magic.
FYI Sony… We togs want LEGENDARY glass. Something we can’t get from other companies. Something that will rise in value over the years we use it. Something with a Signature Drawing Style that isn’t so easily duplicated by any other means. Please consult the Glass Gods and craft something spectacular.
Oh no! Nothing wider than the current 16mm planned for the next two years? OH NO!
Where is that 9-15mm f2 zoom?
Oh sorry, it clearly states “Wide angle zoom” at the beginning of this year, or sometime this year, or announced this year but released next year, or… I’m so confused.
Safe to assume released this year, unless they’re hit with yet another calamity.
Ooh, this “wide-angle zoom” has my heart beating a little faster. Sure, the 16mm at f/8 works fine, but if Sony came out with a nice 11-24 f/4 (aperture to keep the price down), that would be awesome 🙂
The standard zoom (17-50?) and fast-aperture prime (35?) seem nice too, but I’ll be happy with my old Canon glass. The Canon FD 50 f/1.4 on my NEX-5n is great for walking around, IMHO.
Also, as a side-thought, it seems unlikely that any of the lenses not in the “Carl-Zeiss/Sony G” section of the chart will have the aforementioned titles, sorry to say. It would be nice though!
Cheers, and happy shooting!
AJ
On Dpreview they say:
“The roadmap is understandably hazy about exactly when each lens will arrive but with the huge biennial Photokina trade show coming later in 2012, it seems reasonable to assume some will arrive then.”
Should wait till september???? … really?
It looks like the G high performance standard zoom is delayed until 2013?! 🙁
New ‘Standard Zoom’ – Guessing this is a more compact 18-55? Any thoughts? I know everyone wants a fast standard zoom (but that’s covered in the ‘G’) a fast 35mm, covered in the Large Aperture Standard, pancake (no idea what that will be), it isn’t the wide angle zoom which is presumably starting around 10mm, the Middle Telephoto will probably be a 60 or 85mm, HIgh Magnification Zoom will be what a 100-300 and Mid-Magnification Zoom will I assume be something like 16-105? The only one that doesn’t seem so obvious is the Standard Zoom…
No, the graph said delayed until late 2012… For me the picture showing all 8 lenses coming in 2012. Where you read 2013? All graphs starting before 2013 and not with and after 2013. Look at the graph of the announced SEL-50F18 to compare it.
I guess all 8 lenses will be announced this year, but not all will be available this year and Sony don´t want promise it for this year. But it could be, like the Sony guy said before at bbhphoto-show, that we see 6 of the 8 lenses this year.
I would bet the large-aperture standard zoom would be a Carl Zeiss 50/1.4 Planar or a 50/1.5 Sonnar.
The E50/1.8 has been reported to be a good performer and if Sony would introduce a better candidate at this focus length, I bet it would be a Zeiss. 🙂
I usually do not post any comments, but in this case I MUST write one: I hope that someone from Sony HQ reads this. With the NEX-7 Sony came out with a camera I dreamed of as a very serious amateur. I was waiting until a few moments ago, for the NEX-7 that I ordered last September…. I just canceled my order. With such a winner camera design and features I was certain that Sony/Zeiss would develop quality and fast lenses sooner than later. I want autofocus: I want Zeiss and G quality to take advantage of the 24Mp…. All that the brainless Sony people can think of are cheap zooms that the 24Mp sensor will only show how bad they are. ONLY 1 Zeiss and 1 G lens for all of 2012 and 2013??? Sony still thinks small when it comes to photographers: great e-mount bodies (finally) and a collection of lenses that are, in my opinion, good for Sunday amateurs (maybe not even). I am so disappointed and will wait for the Fuji X Pro-1 to arrive. Wake up SONY, and realize that great bodies are worthless if you have mostly cheap lenses. Only my 2 cents worth.
If the blue colored lines are CZ designed lenses this could be a very different road map . . . it would explain all the duplication of the zoom lenses which, quiet frankly, is a little silly since the “consumer” zooms Sony has covered with the 18-55 and 18-200. Sure they aren’t AMAZING but they hold their own for the price. Its really just the enthusiasts and pros who are really unhappy with them.
And I also think the “large aperture standard prime” will be a ~35mm lens to compete with the 35mm f1.4 released by Fuji.
The not so interesting E mount lens line up for 2012 (with the G lens delayed) might suggest that Sony is focusing on A mount this year (with 500/4 finally released, rumoured A9x full frame, Zeiss 50/1.4 etc….)
Maybe Sony is alternating their focus on the 2 mounts. 2011 was a big year for e mount with the release of NEX-7. 2012 focus on A mount with new full frame, and 2013 back to E mount again with pancakes, G lens and possible full frame NEX?.
I don’t know about you, but I’m confused
I had assumed that the NEX systems was Sony’s golden product and Sony would be doing everything possible to make it even a bigger hit and a better camera than it already is, but maybe not……………….
So, it looks as if there is a strong possibility that anyone who purchases into this platform thinking that Sony was planning to add high quality optics will be in the long run disappointed.
Look, a camera platform doesn’t need 130 plus different lens choices like Nikon and Canon does for its cameras or even the 31 lens available for Sony APC sensor A-mount cameras but maybe a only a dozen and half of them can be kit lenses and the other half Zeiss or G class optics to cover both the affordable price range and the high optical performance required by serious photographers, and it doesn’t look like we are going to get this from Sony for its NEX system.
That too bad!
I’m very disappointed in a way, but not so disappointed because I was skeptical when Sony said they changed their lenses roadmap – can you believe that it was worst than that? At the time I said, I will believe when I see it and so far I in disbelief.
Everybody assumed that when they talked about change, there would be something like 2 pancakes, or at least 1 pancake in 2012, but no, only in 2013 and just 1 pancake.
I expected at least more primes with good aperture like 35mm, maybe a portrait prime or a longer macro, maybe a 85mm f/1.4 is the “big aperture prime”, but I don’t really have much hope for Sony.
But I would prefer 3 Primes and just 1 zoom instead of 3 zooms and 1 prime because it’s very unlikely to have a zoom with big aperture.
I’ll say this again Sony, please copy Samsung’s roadmap. Lenses will be forever NEX’s Achilles’ heel, they are bigger than the others and Sony won’t deliver the lenses that people actually want.
It’s fun to use an adapter and manual lenses, but that’s not the point, I just feel disrespected to see other manufactures with decent lenses line ups/ roadmap while Sony is saying that they will launch more NEX cameras – but no significant lenses.
If it was last year or the year before, maybe people could be more patient but with this roadmap I just can’t see how. I can’t commit to the NEX system without the lenses, which is a shame with such good cameras.
You know… that standard zoom could just be the 18-55 in black for the NEX-7. A complete lens roadmap in use by the company for planning and presentation would include that lens.
Under http://blog.sony.com/emount you find the englisch version of the roadmap
Whatever Sony make, I hope they will never make and sell dogs like the 16/2.8.
It is better if they do not make any lenses themselves and leave that task to more competent firms.
Not very convincing for enthusiast photographers: Many low quality lenses – few HQ. Take the 300 macro for instance. Over at SLR Gear I think it is impossible to find a softer macro lens! Sony seems to continue on that trail.
The lens is equally imprortant as the camera. A NEX-7 really deserves much better than avareage or poor lenses!
I am considering m43 or Fuji Pro or NEX-7: Concerning Sony, even after this lens roadmap, lenses remain a showstopper.-If you have a Sony it seems HQ lenses are Zeiss or old Minolta. Sony simply a)Lacks understanding of advanced photo business, b) lack lens design competetence.
Nice cameras + shit lenses = Sony
I use my NEX regularly, but never with E-Mount lenses. It is a great little camera, but as I can not use the lenses on anything OTHER than NEX I wouldn’t invest money in them. Until E-Mount is in the SLTs I will not buy E-Mount lenses. I may have bought just one (and might still when it is finally released) and that is a 35mm f2 or better. Though I am more than happy using a cheapie A-Mount 35mm f1.8 on there and at least I can use it on my Alpha as well. For me my NEX as much as I enjoy it, it is a ‘play camera’ and I will not invest in E-Mount glass.
There is ZERO way I would spend $1000 on the E Zeiss 24mm, none whatsoever. I wouldn’t buy a G either for E-Mount. I would rather have a bigger lens on the front of my NEX that I can actually use on another system.
i think new large aperture standart prime would be 35mm/f1.4 or 85mm/1,8 😀
and thin snap prime pancake will be a 35mm/f2 or 28mm/f2 😀
i hope so 😀
I think more people are giving Sony a miss and choosing other systems instead. For example, I like the NEX7 enough to have bought the camera but chose instead to invest in a different CSC + lenses for the present. Even at Photokina, Focus, etc, Sony have had rough mock ups for 18 months, but little idea of anything remotely definite for spec or availability – hence lost camera sales. Sony need to give us a few more lenses not more roadmaps!
I’ll look at Sony NEX again when it shows signs of actually becoming a system, but of course there will be even more other choices by then.
This roadmap looks terrible. Some of us remember the mistakes Minolta made early on, after the 7000. Looks like Sony is repeating this. We needs top lenses and we need camera that bests the likes of nikon d4.
Getting the Zeiss Logo was a killer move, but, as we can see from the test results, some of the ZEISS Lenses for sony are clearly of lesser imaging quality compated to Sigma. this can not be.
Please Sony, if you can not make a Line Up to rival Canon/Nikon, give some super Lenses. You got Zeiss, where the heck is the HOLOGON for the n7! I’d buy the NEX system for that lense alone.
What’s wrong with the 24mm Zeiss for E-Mount? I got one two weeks ago and absolutely love it! And Kurt Munger already says it’s on par if not better than the 24mm for A-Mount – which really is a top notch lens.
And just out of curiosity, what’s a Hologon?
One top quality lens does not make a system…..
Well, you’re right. I was just wondering ‘cos minolta man bashed the Zeiss lens (or other Sony Zeiss lenses).
As far as pro lenses are considered, we really need a 85mm pro portrait lens and one f/1.2 or 1.4 lens. But hey, there are 8 lenses in the next 2 years, so in some years we’ll have anything we want. Until then – for studio work (where some “pro” lenses are mainly used) it’s not a problem using the LA-EA2 Adapter (price isn’t a problem anyways when it comes to pro lenses) and the two most important ones (24mm and G standard zoom) are already on the roadmap.
there is no super lens dude :p wake up!
Hmm.. what could the pancake be? I mean, they won’t make another 16mm or 24mm lens (well, it may be a 24mm, but then there’s no point buying it – it’s probably slower and worse than the Zeiss one), and 35mm should be supplied by the “big aperture prime”, so maybe a 40 or 60mm?
I would guess somewhere between 24 and 35, I’m not sure that it matters a great deal if it doubles up vs. one of the other lenses, since it’ll be way more compact and probably much cheaper (appealing to 5n and c3 users.
About a 24mm prime or pancake…. Really, it’s not going to compete with the CZ, particularly given the price difference. It doesn’t matter how great the CZ 24 is, I won’t buy it based on price. So, Sony can offer me a cheaper alternative…. or not. But I think a 24mm pancake would be great if they can keep the quality up.
This is what people want, not that Sony will listen. More stars=more important:
Pancakes
-16/2.8**
-18/2.8****
-24/2.8***
-30/2.8****
Primes
-16/2*
-24/1.8****
-35/1.4****
-50/1.4***
-75/1.4 or 85/1.4****
-105/2 or 135/2**
Pro Zooms
-11-16/2.8**
-16-50/2.8 OSS ****
-50-200/2.8 OSS***
Consumer Zooms
-11-18/4-5.6***
-18-55/3.5-5.6 (necessary, will not rate)
-55-200/4.5-5.6 ***
-18-200/3.5-5.6 ****
Other
-90/3.5 macro **
-8/3.5 fish-eye *
Currently Sony only has one pro 4* lens, the Zeiss.Even the 50 is a peculiar lens for APS-C photography. They have released a few other lenses that either aren’t useful or aren’t great quality – 16mm and 30mm macro included. They need to remember that q camera system primarily succeeds according to its reputation with pros, thus the pro lenses are the most important.
I’d totally be interested in a 35mm f/1.4 lens :: that 90mm f/3.5 Macro and a large aperture zoom lens
Thumbs up for the “Higher Magnification Zoom” to become something like 16-105/3.5-6.3 or better 16-80/3.5-4.5
Not only does Sony need more lenses, they also need more clever design – a good lens that collapses like the recent Panasonic one would be great.
After all, why would anyone buy a nice small camera, if it triples in size with the lens attached?
This probably applies more to complete NEX system, than any camera in particular.