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For the source: A new source sent us some info about the A57. I want to thank him for that and also add a private message. Sorry for not posting this earlier but I always try to double check info before to post a rumor. Want to avoid to post false rumors. As you can imagine sometimes I get “fake rumors”. One more question…when is the A57 coming?
For the readers: The new A57 will use a 16 megapixel sensor and has the 12fps function of the A77. It also uses the same battery as the A77. Menu structure is again the same of the A77… same focusing modes as A77. The EVF looks similar to the A77 (might not be but very good) and the response time an manual mode very fast with no lag on settings. It has a swivel screen that looks very much like the same as the A77 and an ISO button on top.
UPDATE: Trusted sources confirmed the specs (with only a small correction). The A57 Specs are right! No articulated LCD screen but swivable. A77 Vertical Grip fits on the A57. No Top LCD.NO GPS. Finally exciting times are ahead of us. I also heard about a new NEX camera but don’t know if it will be announced yet and be available in April. Or if it will be announced in April and available in April.
UPDATE_2: No magnesium alloy!
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Sony A77 in stock status check: [shopcountry 8461].
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Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
SR1=probably fake rumor
SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
SR4=rumor from known sources
SR5=almost certainly correct!
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Damn. No FF. 🙁
At least one CZ lens coming soon?
What? Another one? Nooooo
I hope it truly is the new high ISO king.
hahaha… my camera finally have a younger brother.
If they made the body bigger it would be great, but nooo. The a77 should be the king and above it all, as it looks more professional and is more advanced not some small camera. Why couldn’t they just put an 18mpx or 16mpx in the a77.
It really pisses me off, because I really want the 77, but ISO kinda bothers me.
Sony has some weird logic, I think.
No, you do. If “ISO bothers you”, steer clear from photography as a whole.
I swear this place is just a herd of sheep.
The A77/NEX-7 would NOT have been better if it had been 16MP or 18MP.
The sensor in the A77/NEX-7 is superior overall to the 5N sensor. Okay, the ISO isn’t quite as good, but the difference between the NEX-5N and NEX-7 is negligable in terms of ISO. In everyday, real-world photography, you would even stuggle to see the difference between the ISO performance of the 5N and A77.
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/(appareil1)/734%7C0/(brand)/Sony/(appareil2)/736%7C0/(brand2)/Sony/(appareil3)/737%7C0/(brand3)/Sony
Having used the A580 and the A77 side by side shooting concerts – sorry, the Sony 16MP sensor is noticeably cleaner from ISO 1600 up. DXOMark is not the end all and be all of ratings.
You clearly don’t know how dxo compare sensors then. There isn’t much of a difference between the A580 and A77 which is astounding considering the increase in mpix.
When you understand the dxo testing methodology you’ll also understand why people like me say there isn’t much of a difference.
After understanding this you’ll then learn how to post process your A77 images properly and see something more like the output from the A580 at higher ISO.
Educate yourself, it’s worth the effort.
*continue with my trusty sony a850* for weddings shoots.
Wow, you must be a real pro 😮
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replacement for A55 – if the price is sweet enough, will generate more SLT interests.
yeah, great news! 16MP, no top lcd, no stupid gps… hopefully two control-wheels still, hopefully better buffer since 16MP… pity about no articulated LCD screen, but it’s ok. if the price will be lower than a77 (something around a65) and the cam is going together with 16-50/2,8 kit it will be really just the perfect choice for me. All I only need, is the A57 release before my birthday in June 😉
IMO GPS would be very nice. And a full magnesium alloy-body.
Why is GPS “stupid”? If you don’t want it, turn it off.
yes, you are right – stupid was the wrong word…
but anyway – for me it’s useless, and I think the cam could be much-much less expensive without such for the “normal” photography useless stuff like gps, tons of artistic filters etc. Me personally, I’d really like better to spare some moneys and to have no one of these gimmisks. To pay just for essential stuff you know… But probably I’m too unrealistic, and it will actually change nothing on the price.
Artistic filters don’t cost money, at least at hardware level. I can’t comment on GPS, I never use one.
I second all your statements/wishes, except for the birthday (mine isn’t in June 🙂 ). I wouldn’t mind if the price was in between the A55 and the A65, though…With regards to some of the replies to your post, I agree that one can turn off the GPS if/when not needed, but since I don’t want it at all, why pay a higher price for a unit that has it?
It won’t have two control wheels. The a65 doesn’t have two control wheels; therefore it makes no sense that this camera would.
IMHO Sony went out of their way to put as many features, buttons, controls etc… As they could into the a77 because that’s what potential owners (a lot of a700 owners) wanted and because it’s their flagship aps-c camera. Sony listened to most and that’s why you have a weather sealed, very comfortable ergonomic camera with loads of programmable options and features.
The only other camera that Sony will put that kind of time and effort into will be the FF models. The lower models are regurgitated on a yearly basis without much model specific R and D so they can get them out the door faster. Again JMHO.
Correct.
If it has all the specs of the A77 and a better (as everyone say) sensor, what was the damn point of releasing the A77, to upset all A77 buyers?
not everyone says this. only those uneducated about digital photography. the A77 is a superior camera to this in every way, as is the sensor.
The A5x series sensor is not “better”, you have been reading too many ill-informed comments on the Internet…
Noooooooo!!!!!! why must you this!!!!
Just when I was about to go out to buy more 35mm f1.4g ohh well.
its not like my camera explodes when its released :3
Relax… 35mm f1.4g is not so good lens… Better wait for Sigma 35mm F1.4, becouse i had 35mm G-Lens from Sony, and it was terrible! Not so sharp on F1,4 to F/2,8 and terrible AF…
Ha, yeah, some don’t like it. The AF is good on that lens, it must be your body. It has the lower contrast, colour and bokeh that Minolta lovers appreciate – goes very well with 58/1.2 & 85/1.4. Zeiss users or new digital users don’t usually appreciate these qualities, which is fine with me, means they float around on the used market quite happily 🙂
The 35/1.4 is great. Maybe not for clinical test chart pixel peeping. But for real photos, its awesome. Great rendering of highlights, bokeh is great, and on my a850, the autofocus is fine. Not the fastest, I’ll admit. And sometimes it hunts, but it does work well and is accurate.
you were clearly using the 35/1.4G on an APS-C body… where it is still a top notch lens. Wait for the Sigma because you either had a bad copy or didn’t realize what you had…? crazy talk.
Where this baby really shines in on the A900 FF. My favorite walk around lens on the A900 easily… AF is extremely good, and yes you need to stop down to around F2 for sharpness, but this is characteristic of most primes from almost any brand. Most lenses are not sharp at their widest aperture, nature of lens design. There are a few exceptions from anyone… the 135Zeiss however is fabulous wide open at F1.8.
yes! that’s exactly what I’ve waited for! hope the rumor is true and it will not cost too much. 🙂
I need this in A77 body!
Down-sample your images and you’ve already got it in the A77.
downsampling is a very stupid thing, it work only for the web, if you print it Doesn’t Work at all
If you print, you don’t need to.
LOL (and agreed)
if you print you don’t need to downsample .. so noise is visible
@kess are you planning to look at your prints under a microscope? Do you look at them with your nose right up against the paper? What is your obsession with “noise”?
Nonsense, it works just as well, or you just print at a higher dpi and from the same viewing distance, the noise will look similar.
Don’t bother, it seems some people here are now expecting to examine prints under a microscope now…sigh…
@kess
Printing almost always involves up-sizing or down-sizing as it would be an incredible coincidence if the native resolution of a printer happened to be identical to that of the sensor. Of course that re-sizing might be done in the print-driver, but it’s there all the same.
In fact downsizing works just as well for a given resolution for print as web albeit that different optimisations may be appropriate.
No you don’t.
So …
This is what the A65 should be from the start?
I’m betting on a higher price than the A65.
Also, might be willing to replace my 500 and 700 for this if it lives up to it’s “hype”.
And I am still eagerly awaiting FF news. My 850 is not getting any younger …
A new NEX!? I’ve not received my NEX7 yet : ( finger hovering to cancel the preorder as we speak….
wonder where this leaves the A65?
They must have increased the size of this 5 series then for the A77 grip to fit it. I don’t see it myself as it makes it MUCH bigger than the A55 and bigger than the A65 too.
Why would Sony release a bigger body and faster fps that positions a 5 series over the A65?
yeah makes no sense, I think it will stay the size of the A55 with a lesser EVF, I’ll be pretty disappointed if this turned out to be what my A65 should be
because they may have realised that a lot of people directly bought the a77? for me it makes sense: a3x as entry level with small body, a5x as some sort of “middle-class” with a normal/big body but not that much mpx and a a7x as a semi-pro and full frame for pro.
Which makes the A65….?
Useless? As already mentioned by others, I think this new camera is what the a65 should have been…
A57 might not be the final name. From reading the description, this sounds alot more like “A75”. Same design as A77 (able to use A77 grip), plastic outer shell rather than mag, 16MP sensor.
Sony ‘might be’ streamlining the line-up. So, we could end up with, A35 (and replacement, A37?), A57, A77, A99 (or A97?).
So is this better than my A77? Sounds like it has better specs than mine (eg. 16mp instead of that 24mp, probably better ISO performance.)
It does not have better specs. I much prefer the resolution of the 24mp over very high ISO that I don’t care about. But then I’m not one for pixel peeping ISO 6400 images of my pets, it appears to be an obsession for some here.
no… which AF will be in the a57 ? The a-55-65 one, not the a77 one… so will be the EVF and screen… and so on…
why are there so many idiots here?
nooooo!! make a fullframe high iso king
I am starting to wonder about Sony’s naming convention, is this actually a 7 series camera as in A5(7), A7(7) and the 5 series camera are A3(5), A5(5) and A6(5). Or am I being a bit dum?
the first number used to be the indication for the class
a 16 MPix sensor in a kind of an A77 body 😀
if the price is around the A65 body that is great
the question is when will we get that camera
Is it always the same 16MP CMOS chip in the (Sony, Nikon, Pentax) A580, A35, A55, A57, NEX-C3, NEX-5N, D5100, D7000, K-5 ??? If not, what is the difference ?
It’s the firmwareupdate for the A55 🙂
LOL
Classic Sony joke! 😉
This sounded very strange to me, since the A57 seems to be positioned above the a65. Maybe it is because Sony actually listened to the high-ISO screams, and a 16 MP sensor in an upgraded A67 is even weirder, as it will be regarded as a downgrade and its too new. So in the end there is logic behind it.
If this rumour is true, we might get a high ISO king, but then they have to improve the sensor to get performance in line with or better then the NEX 5N. However, I don’t think it will dethrone the A77, it lacks some specs, but I’m really curious about some things:
-will it have a magnesium alloy body?
-AF micro adjust?
-AF illuminator?
-Buffer depth?
-double dials (I think it will, because the compatible A77 grip also has 2 dials)?
It is indeed a good move from Sony, if it happens soon enough.
My estimation based on Sony’s recent lineup.
-will it have a magnesium alloy body? No
-AF micro adjust? No
-AF illuminator? No
-Buffer depth? less than the A77
And it won’t have the OLED EVF
Sony current line up of cameras are very good, in my opinion much better value than the competition.
Price NEX-7, 5n, A65, A77 against m4/3, Canon, Nikon and Fuji cameras and one gets so much more for your money.
BUT – We need urgently more and better lenses, below 10’000 euro if possible 🙂
If that is not possible, lets try to make the ones we already have announced.
We still can’t get at all the SEL-55-210 nor the SEL-50mm/f1.8 here and the Zeiss 24mm /f1.8 is still difficult to find.
It would be very stupid to announce a new NEX series while people are still waiting to get their 7s ordered last year.
I have been very impressed with Sony engineers but senior management suck !
Agree with you. I am hopping that Sony lens will be re-batch with SSM, weather seal. New lenses will be awesome.
Guys
Did you try the 16mps before ? it can’t compete with the 24 mps in low iso, so much details in the 24mps and so much 3d effect due to the high pixel number.
The A77 is not the high iso king but clearly a fantastic tool for landscape, studio and sport (in certain condition)
Don’t bother, people here are only interested in taking pictures in the dark…
maybe I’m not concerned by A0 print, and maybe I want a buffer which can go further than 1 sec of continuous shooting, and maybe I do not want to bother with high stabilisation or high shutter speed that is needed to provide highest image quality…
What?
Then go spend $5000-$6,000 on the competition.
sport? fail
fail for sports? really… odd I didn’t realize that any of the competition could adjust focus, white balance, & exposure in between every single high speed frame… oh and there are 12 of them every second (13 with AF and EXP locked)… and with Sony’s much hated memory stick (of the HG variety) I can get up to 28 full RAW shots before buffer lag (at least 2 seconds continuous shooting, to the guy above who complains otherwise… blame your class 6 or 10 SD card, buddy)
The Canon 7D looks a little intimidated by comparison…
Woah! Really insightful post AlphaGuy. I’ll definitley take note to buy a memorystick HG to use with the A77
I want a NEX with GPS 😉
New NEX wit 36MP Sensor? YEs Yes YES !!!!
Shix
I want it more than what is now on my hand – A77
You want the A57 more than your current A77? Are you nuts!?
Really? o yes ! because A77 is a totally crap!
then you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Can anyone tell me WHY IN GODS NAME the Nex7 REFUSES to come to the F*CKING UK!?!?!?!?
I have 2 (from preorders) that I received in December and I’m in the UK. Try UK Digital, they seem to have a reliable line into Sony.
Sounds good. Now, get rid of that ridiculously large crop when shooting videos by allowing the user to turn off electronic steady shot. And add audio in level control.
If the rumors are true, though, thank you Sony!
Well the next firmware upgrade better make the A77 amazing or there will be a lot of pissed 77 owners. Surely this is not the way to treat your customers. By the Rolls Royce version but the cheaper version will be better. If this is true, this will be the first time I have tought about leaving sony as a brand.
In what way do you think it is “better”?
You think an A35 offers better image quality than an A65/A77 too?
Your getting your shorts in a knot over a rumored camera and specs. I assume you own an a77 otherwise why would you care.
Why would anyone think that Sony would release a 5x camera that would out perform, handle or spec better than the a77. Holy crap people give your head a shake.
+1
Same here
I am not certain that I understand what “No articulated LCD screen but swivable.” actually means. What’s the difference between articulated screen and swivable?
I suppose this screen is similar to the screen of a580. Can’t be like a55 since it can use the vertical grip of a77.
Sounds very intriguing.
I think it is similar to NEX7’s.
Very strange news. If A57 is compatible with A77 grip, so it must be bigger then A55. And what about AF system? A57 position will be higher the A65? If it will be the same sensor that NEX-5N owns, there will be no new ISO king. It is very simple calculation. 1/3 stop less. Maximum working IS0 -> ~800.
Please could you show the workings of your “calculation”? Since when is maximum working ISO only 800? The 5N is perfectly usable (I know that’s subjective) at ISO 3200/6400, so how did you arrive at ISO 800?
I am currently owner A580 and NEX-5N myself(after long trip from Minolta 5D, throw A300 and A700). Both “partusable” at 1600 and totally unusable at >1600.
That isn’t showing the workings of your calculation.
The general consensus is that both the A580 and NEX-5N are more than usable at ISO 1600 and above. Even my older NEX-5 is fine using ISO 3200.
You’re doing it wrong.
The calculation was already delivered by DxO Mark and it is very close to practice in all sony cameras I owned. The telling about megerment noise level normalized to 8Mpix printed on 8″x12″ (20cmx30cm) at 300dpi.
I am comparing it to my filling using noiseware plag-in that must eleminate noise without viewed damage to photo with “70” gradient noise reduction and “80” for color noise reduction with downsize to 4Mpix from 16. The results of DxO Mark and my fillings was and is very close. There is no croped sensor fully capable to work with ISO 1600. The only one very close to full work with 1600 is 16Mpix APS-H from Canon.
you humor me.
I have to agree with others… check your technique, your results are flawed… maybe post some images and EXIF and we can help you correct the situation…
The NEX5N has been widely shown to be totally usable at 1600, very usable at 3200 (a feat for most cameras, let alone a Sony after the last 4 – 5 years), and 6400 is passable depending on your intended use. Above that I wouldn’t use it for demanding applications, but the pictures are hardly unusable… check your settings…
You are clearly a Sony guy with a couple bodies, but may I kindly suggest you spend more time taking pictures with your cameras than reading the DxO scores.
Getting a bit tired of these “high ISO king” lines, Pierre Chris/ Andrea.
Ofcourse it won’t be, it’s an SLT. If that’s the modt important thing, being the king (even if differences are down to just half a stop or less….), you’re looking at the wrong brand and wrong format. Period.
It will probably be similar to the A35/A55/A65/A77, when displayed at the same size. Headlines such as those, even as a question, will undoubtly lead to disappointment again.
Thanks for the adjustment, comment above no longer applicable.
How can it be the “NEW HIGH ISO KING” when it will have an TRANSLUCENT MIRROR THAT EATS UP 0,5 EV OF LIGHT?!? (compared to NEX 5N)
Why delete the GPS? Why can’t Sony just improve a camera without taking things away?
It can’t.
IMO to really trigger A580/A35/A55 owners who still find the A77/A65 too expensive, the A57 should have 18-20 MP unless Canon 600D will be the winner
If you have invested in lenses, then the 600D isn’t going to make you want to swap brands.
Canon 600D can be a winner compare to the A580 only to those who buy “DSLR” as some thing big and black, to use it with kit lens always firing by on-body flash direct to the faces. For those every Canon is a winner not only 600D. Yes 600D have more options to drive external light using internal flash but all those will never open even datasheet or user manul.
Are you sure it isn’t an a77 alike grip rather than the actual a77 grip? I still believe that the a55 replacement will be a ‘premium compact’ SLT. Like the a77 for the small form factor 33/37/55. ‘3’ will denote compact, ‘5’ premium compact, ‘6’ enthusiast or full size and ‘7’ premium enthusiast.
I too think it’s more likely to be misinformation. It’s probably more like the A57 will have a grip like the A77 has one, rather than the A57 sharing the SAME grip and therefore being the same physical size as the A77.
Is today A57 really a “Rumor” if you can expect official Sony news tomorrow at the CP+ ? 😉
ok, just to re-assure you A77 owners that it wont devalue your purchase, I can add to this rumor by telling you that a friend of a friend of a man I passed in the street says that Sony are aware of this. To prevent this effect they’ve decided not to sell it body-only, you have to buy it with the “kit lens”… which is the 500mm F4, estimated street price £14,000, honest! 😉
i will still wait for a99 or a95 😀 lallalallala 😀
News about A38 (A35 successor)?
Differences between A38 and A57?
Come on Andrea!
Work a little harder !
😉
Please don’t spread false rumor/hope. A SLT design will NEVER be better than a SLR design, high ISO performance wise. Thanks.
That depends on the sensor. 😉
thanks oracle.
A850 -> D800
great, i hope the iso perfs will be ok so that i can sell my a77 and invest in an a57…
hum,
let’s speculate here:
A77 grip compatible, means dial on the back of the body and swiveling screen a la canon 60D and size of the current A77.
the only benefit of owning the A77 will be for travelers and studio shooters (durability, high pixel count and GPS).
What are you doing to me Sony? I was heading towards the 77 but it looks like I will have a better option now!
I shoot weddings and only in available light, the low light capability are likely to be better than the current A77/65 and pretty much the rest of the market.
I think the price will be the same as the A65 or slightly less.
Bring it on ASAP!!
@Admin: Andrea, you mentioned “… fast responding user interface…” ! This sounds good and gives hope for a new firmware release for A77.
WHERE IS IT????
Any news about it?
is the a57 also weatherseal and what about the AF?
can someone make a comparison (a77 vs. a57)
i want to buy the a77 in march but now i’m unsure…
Even the A77 is not weathersealed, so why should the A57 be?
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1037&message=39745783&changemode=1
3:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al1BI82nV9A
Daniel i have to reply on this post, because it´s not possible on your last.
I´m thinking strongly about buying a A77 and of course i knew this video. And surely the A77 will not explode if one or two raindrops will hit it. Thats not the matter.
Fact is, it is not so wetherproofed that you could shoot in rain. That´s the answer i got from sony.
So if you shoot in rain, on your one risk. And thats for me not weatherproofed. I can show you a video from a E5 which was shooted in a pool completly under water, without a special waterhousing. Or look at the new E-M5, thats also a camera which also would work in the strongest rain. But if Sony says it´s not desingned for working in rain, i believe them. And Sony in germany also printing only against dust and moisture on that product. So weatherproofed?
I´m sorry for your ipod.
thx for the info!
A77 is weathersealed !
No, only against dust and moisture and not against rain. That´s not weathersealed!
i know that i can’t go swimming with my a77 but it should be no problem if there were a few raindrops on the body/buttons.
have you seen the video?
a few raindrops on a button at the a65 can break your camera.
off topic: ones i pressed the home button on my iphone with a wet thumb and it was destroyed…
(i’m from austria, please don’t blame me for my english)
@Werda…
Don’t talk about things you don’t have experience with. I shoot outside with the A77 a lot, and it is not afraid of rain (little or a lot)… yes, as someone pointed out I am not taking it in the pool with me, but water doesn’t hurt it.
There have been video reviews where they pour water over the body with the 16-50 kit lens attached. Please understand what you are saying before you comment.
@AlphaGuyNorthAmerica
U misunderstood me, im didn´t talked about my own expirience with a A77. Perhaps next week i will get one.
Are you saying you know the product better than the manufactor? If you speak german, i can show you the offical answer i got from sony. Thats all i said. I was first happy as everyone was reporting, A77 is weatherproofed. But as i read only against dust and moisture i thought my self also against rain and wrote a email to sony.
So what, should i believe the producer or you?
Surely it could work in rain, now doubt. But for me it´s not weatherproofed if the producer say´s it´s not desinged to work in rain. Thats all. You can use it in rain, sure but for your own risk.
If you can show me a offical document from sony that´s say´s you can shoot in rain than i believe you. What uninformated reviewer do, count´s nothing to me because they don´t have to pay for that. If Kay throw´s the A77 out of the 8th floor and the camera worked fine after that, would you try it with your own camera if sony say´s, it´s not build for throwing it out of the window?
Please understand this right, thats no bashing its more a worning because of so many misunderstood “against dust and moisture” as weatherproofed.
I would be happy if the A77 would be weatherproofed.
hey guys stop to carp at Werda and read what she/he says: Sony says it’s not designed for working in rain. Point. So if you are lucky for a some time and have got no damages under the rain – it is ok. But shit happens, you know, sometimes. And than you have no warranty, and sony actually did warn you. So let it rain on your around 1,5k $, play with it. But do not attack people, who are a bit sceptical, especially if they have some reasonable arguments to do it.
This shows that Sony have been listening to user comments on MP vs ISO. If nothing else, it shows that Sony can respond to user requests faster than the competition.
btw andrea, is it a replacement of the a55 or the a580? it sounds more like a replacement of the a580 if we can attach a grip on it…is it a SLT or a DSLR?
if the naming holds out to be true its a SLT as the DSLR woudl be A570 (i woudl really likek to see that option but i know thats not happening )
yep this is what the A65 shoudl have been tho i do see how they wanted to have duel 24mp slts for 2 price points
why do i see the need for a S = sport body and L= landscapers with high MP
this might well help me jump from my A330 to slt as i dont need a A65/77 24mp (im not a pro). and really all i wanted the A580 for was the video and other slight bump ups in specs. i ll jsut have to keep my eyes open to see how the EVF loooks and if i still dont like it i might pick up a A580 as they disco it
In my dreams – a57 = a55 + better sensor + fully articulated LCD (like the A77 or the Canon 600d) + video mode with full manual controls
it doesnt make sense if we consider the naming is a57, this will upset plenty of a65 user. I really believe that this camera is the A75 that was rumored few months ago..almost identical to size and shape, but with lower MP sensor
That isn’t going to happen and people need to get over it. There will be no A77 with a lower MP sensor and there doesn’t need to be. Sony have made their decision to go high MP, and they will not be going back on it.
Sony have a high ISO king. But that High iso king looks like Shrek comparing to the Nikon high ISO king which look like prince Charming.
haha! nice comparison there—it may be shrek but still the protagonist 😉
As someone who is currently deciding between an A55 and a Nikon D5100, this news is very interesting. If the A57 has the A77/65’s EVF, manual controls during video shooting and has high ISO comparable to Nikon’s D5100 (I tend to take pictures in low light situation), I’m sold on the A57! Come on Sony, give the A57 the A77’s EVF!!!!
Absolutely! I’m in the same situation.
If not, maybe I wait for GH3 which must be coming very soon
a camera is not “a gps device”, nothing more than a gps logger and you can have those for less then 20 euro (portable, so with their own battery and case) so stop whining about the price, you will not cut 100+ euro by not having it.
And since you can disable it when you don’t want to use it (like you should do with bluetooth and other ‘gimmicks’ on our gadgets) to save battery juice, it is rather silly of Sony (again) to drop small extra’s like this to make the differences between models more “obvious” for customers. Like they always drop tethering for “amateurs or below”; they lose more than they think to win…
Actually it looks pretty good.
Fuuuuuuu…!!! Just bought the A65.
But then, I needed it and I’m pretty happy with its specs. I will anxiously wait and see where does Sony position this new freak.
You A65 will still have a MUCH better EVF.
not to mention the superior resolution and low-light advantages offered by said resolution (if you have a fucking brain anyways)
Are you sure it is compatible with A77 grip? Why not fit with A5xx grip which make more sense? A77 grip means it has front and back dial?
Strange how Sony make it is more desirable than A65? So A65 is really A55 replacement while A57 is A77 little brother?
Am I the only one that see’s that Sony releasing a new NEX model while most of us are still waiting for a NEX 7 is a major slap in the face? Waiting months to get a NEX 7 only to have a possibly better body announced the next week?
What do you think people would have said if Canon released a 5D MKIII as soon as all purchase rush of the 5D MKII ended a month after release? For the love of god Sony, get your act together with your pre-orders, I don’t care that I have to wait, just let me know how LONG I’m going to wait, don’t keep saying “maybe next week”.
What gave you the idea they are about to announce a superior body to the NEX-7?
NEX model release (if it is true) will be lower model to NEX-7. Maybe a 16MP with NEX-7 body and slightly lower fps?
Just like A57, 12fps and A77 grip and focusing modul, it seems better than A65 but not as good as A77.
A) I said possibly better 🙂
B) for some of us, a lower priced, lower spec’d Nex 7 might be an improvement if price was an issue.
C) at the very least, even if it has a worse sensor or is in some other way a lower spec’d Nex 7 it will have a newer firmware that will most likely have issues people have brought up with the NEX 7 addressed
Waiting for Nex7 is not a real problem, your going to wait much longer for the fitting opticals. There is only one overpriced lens now, so stay cool. .-)
Personally I don’t care about their lens line-up, I want the NEX 7 purely to use with my Leica lenses
Give your head a shake… think about the release of the models we have currently… in succession…
NEX3 > NEX5 > A33 > A55 > A35 > NEXC3 > NEX5N > A65 > A77 > NEX7
To even think that the NEX7 is in line to be replaced is absurd. If anything the C3, A35, & A55 are the next up respectively… how can you conclude otherwise? Customers with NEX7 on order are not opt for a C3 or entry SLT replacement, I mean c’mon now…
You are upset that the NEX7 are delayed because of catastrophic flooding that delayed things? The damages suffered by Sony financially would (and have) ruined smaller companies. Instead Sony does what they can to recover from such a significant supply chain blow… the result delayed shipments.
Do you really expect them as a company to then change their entire timeline and release strategy as a whole? That makes zero sense. In a situation like this you try to get back to normalcy as soon as possible and with as little deviation from your original product planning and forecast… consumer goods business practices 101. This is a bump in the road they are trying to get past, not extend by allowing it to mess up more future planning that necessary… this stuff doesn’t happen overnight, as so many of you people seem to forget…
this just killed the a65
For those who want or need 24MP it doesn’t kill the A65
yeah like 1/10 people. most are ok/prefer 16mp polished sensor with superb high ISO performance
+1
24mp is for pros and the a65 isn’t a pro or even a semi-pro camera.
24MP is for studio and landscape. If the price is about the same then they would choose A65 if they can’t afford A77. For A77 owner then A57 is best second/backup body if it indeed accept A77 vertical grip.
Only 1 in 10 people are studio and landscape shooters? Really???
Only 1 in 10 people want to crop their images? Really???
Just because YOU don’t want more than 16mp, don’t make the giant leap into thinking that others don’t want more than 16mp.
Seems odd that Sony would out spec the a65 on everything except MP and GPS. If this gets the a77 focus module I’ll be upset since that is the only a77 feature I’d really like to have in my a65.
I don’t see it myself. Putting the AF module from the A77 into a 5 series camera doesn’t make sense.
This may be the bestseller, I hope for a 700$ max price.
I hope they give us maximal image quality in terms of ISO and DR and keep full manual controls for Video.
Sounds great, EVF,GPS, body build will are places to lower the price.
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Very good News!!!
A classical way to go forward… Upgrading the first generation a33/a55
And resolving the first generation problems/limitations
Optimised sensor for high iso and low battery consumption
Resolving oberheating problem
Perhaps video control
Perhaps AVCHD2 with 50/60p 28Mb
Perhaps last generation evf
Excellent product in my opinion.
I would for sure uphrade my a55
If this is indeed a more upscale camera with the new EVF, and the 16mpix sensor, and IF it has at least decent auto exposure bracketing, I will buy it immediately. On the other hand, if they continue to only put in the silly +- 2/3 bracketing, I may finally have to consider jumping ship. A good deal of what I shoot these days is HDR, and I don’t’ want an already processed JPEG as the result of my shooting. I want at least 3 shots at +- 2EV. Or more than that and higher limits. Even my little Canon s95 has true adjustable HDR bracketing! If Sony doesn’t understand this, then it is doubtful that they will ever truly comprehend what professional or even high level hobbyists want in a camera.
Sony, why you no have GPS? Well, I guess I’d rather have the available grip than GPS….but still….c’mon.
Admin says: “Finally exciting times are ahead of us. I also heard about a new NEX camera but don’t know if it will be announced yet and be available in April. Or if it will be announced in April and available in April.”
What is the nex camera you heard about? There has to be some news regarding the FF’s and when they are going to be available.
There was a post a while back about a NEX hybrid mount. That’s probably what admin is talking about. I think, if thats true, then it could be full frame.
Tethering? AF/MF Button? Manual Audio Controls?
Oh who needs that when “smile detection” is only a few menu screens away?
And I swear to baby hey zuess that if the new NEX is a NEX-7N, when my NEX-7 hasn’t even arrived yet, I’m going to abandon the Sony boat like a rat from a sinking ship.
This is ridiculous! The NEX-7 is/was delayed because the factory was under water. Given that R&D for Sony is in Japan what should they have done? Stopped all R&D to let production catch up? Delay new products just because you don’t have your camera? Start considering the big picture fella! They won’t start delivering the next gen until at least all back orders are fulfilled. I wonder if people can see beyond the end of their own noses sometimes….
Meh.. no magnesium alloy, no dual dials, no microfocus adjust, no tilty screen
It’s a firm mid-range camera – and a replacement of the a55
Hopefully they are updating the EVF. They really should be putting the best EVF into all cameras. It helps the brand image to show EVF as a replacement to OVF.
I don’t see it as competition to the a65, and definitely not to the a77
THAT SAID:
Sony would do well to hurry up with the firmware update and add some more features to the a77. Tethering support, audio level controls – there’s no excuse to NOT have these. Plus stupid things like laggy controls really should be fixed in a £1000 semi-pro level camera
And then Sony, please please give us full frame news. There is full frame frenzy right now. The 1dx, d4 and d800 all look hot. And the 5d2 replacement will be here soon. But currently Sony has NO full frame cameras in production right now. They should at least make an announcement.. otherwise a lot of people will lose faith.
I’m a happy a850 owner, but I will be honest and say that so many new and great cameras from the other parties does make me nervous. When some of us have 10,000 or more invested in a system, I think it’s fair to ask for some re-assurance in return. Especially when that party is already the underdog. Nikon or Canon were much safer choices, but I chose Sony because I liked what they offered. I hope they don’t let us down. Please Sony, make a full frame announcement – even if I have to wait, at least let us know what to expect!
David,
I know exactly what you mean. If I was a Nikon shooter I would be ecstatic right now and would have my camera preordered. However, I also have an 850, but am ready for the next FF. Seeing more info on these cameras would calm some fears of what the future holds. I am too invested and I use Sony points to purchase my equipment. Therefore, bolting to Nikon or Canon would not be prudent. I really want to to what our future holds for us Sony shooters. I really feel that Sony will release some info before the ship date of the new Nikon.
“Meh.. no magnesium alloy, no dual dials, no microfocus adjust, no tilty screen”
Dude, it’s the a55 replacement. Sheesh. Some of us would like this thing to be under $800. Get an a77 if you need that stuff.
That’s the point he was making, whereas others here are thinking this is some sort of A65/77 killer. It isn’t, it’s “only” a 5 series.
So the A57 will be the size of A77 but with 16mp sensor? Why not make it A55’s size and just upgrade the internal?
It’ll probably be the same size as the a55 but with the battery compartment compatible to take the grip addition. The a55 does not have that because of the door and the battery size. Doesn’t mean it has to be the same size as the a77. All SLT’s are roughly the same depth because the lens has to be a certain distance from the sensor. It’s just a hight difference between the two I think.
This is like a 16MP A65, very nice! If it comes out in a month or so and it’s $849 with the kit lens as the A55 is then I’m buying it.
A57 = A55 plus new EVF, 16MP and a few extra gimmicks. It won’t have two dials, it won’t be ‘better’ than the A65. It will be an updated mid range camera. The naming convention is pretty simple and straightforward. SLT = no ‘high ISO king’. That’s not the target market of SLT. It likely never will be and given current sensor technology it never can be.
thanks, oracle
Agree,
the A57 will just be like the A55, one dial, but with improved sensor from NEX-5N, and the improved translucent mirror as in the A65/A77. And maybe a better EVF than A55? 🙂 Just my thoughts.
B.R.
LOL NO GPS?
Hm, i thought Sony officially said, that all models after a55 will have built-in gps.
Financial troubles or what?
/i’m really do not need it/
I think the best is make 2 models. With and without GPS. For example in my A77 it will stay off all the time. I would prefer a good SD card instead for the money 😀
If the VG from A77 fits it, it will be bigger than A55. Not nice…