Sony just announced three new compact cameras. The DSC-WX50, WX70 and the ultra-thin TX200V (More on Engadget). I think this is the last not so exiting Sony release. The next Sony announcement should be made within weeks and be more “serious” 🙂 I think new SLT camera are coming soon!
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need moar a-mount lenses!
need moar e-mount lenses!
when a playtation 4?
Well according to this, there are yet more Cyber-Shots to follow…
http://photorumors.com/2012/01/16/several-new-sony-cybershot-camera-leaked-online/
Those guys don’t know shyte.
Any news on Alpha System? lol
All the rest is not important at the moment!!! 😀
We need A-mount lenses and some a99 news soon
We don’t need any more NEX cameras
We definitely dont need more low level SLT cameras.
What A-mount lenses are we missing?
I’m missing a 100mm and 200mm Macro IF SSM weatherproof, new 24,35,50 f1.4 SSM, 85 f1.8, and that’s about it for me.
we already have the 24mm Zeiss F2. why do you need a new model?
I know, you are right on that one, I hesitated to put it in the row, but there is no f1.4 24mm. So it is not a new model of the 24 f2 I want, just an increased maximum aperture model. But to be honest, I don’t really need f1.4. Just for fun. However, it would cost double the f2 version.
The currrent 24 f2 is not worth the money so I think a new design is needed. I briefly had an f2 but returned it asap cause its not sharp
Revive the Minolta 24/1.4 G D prototype, and there would be much rejoicing.
I also find the ZA24 a lens that is neither here nor there.
I would love to see an 85mm 1.8, but I don’t see it happening – I think they went with the 2.8 instead to keep costs down on the entry level 85mm, so I hope a 3rd party comes out with an 85 1.8. 24mm would be nice as there is no ‘entry’ version of the 24 anymore, I really wish they would come out with a more affordable 24mm (though I love my Minolta 24). I can’t see it happening below f2.8 though as the Zeiss is (only) an f2, Sony try to separate their lenses on speed as well as quality. I want to see a 135mm 2.8 as well added to that list.
The 50 and 35 are probably a given, just way too old and the 35 (at least) should make room for a Zeiss replacement. Maybe a Zeiss 35 1.4 and 50 1.2 and a Sony SSM 50 1.4.
UWA would be nice to rival the Sigma 8-16mm.
Midrange mostly. We have lots of cheap lenses, and lots of pro quality Zeiss and G lenses. But very little affordable mid-range.
17-35/f4. If you want ultra-wide for full frame, your only current option is 16-35/2.8 which is £1400.
70-200/f4. This is one of the most popular Canon lenses. Sony should have one too.
A new 50 (let’s be honest, the 50/1.4 isn’t great – when SIGMA makes a better lens, you know there’s a problem)
An ultra-wide, 12-24. Currently nothing in this range
There should be an 85/1.8 at £400. If you want an 85, you can spend £150 on the 2.8SAM, or £1300 on the Zeiss 1.4. We should have an affordable 85 prime that works will full frame. Nikon has about 4 85mm primes at different price points.
and a 35/f2 for full frame. If you want a 35mm, you have one choice – the £1400 1.4G. There should be a more affordable mid-range lens.
I’m a full-frame user, and I have the 16-35, 35G and 85/1.4. But I would *LOVE* some more mid-range alternatives. Ie I sometimes delve into the telephoto range, but not enough to justify the 70-200G.
I know there are Minolta equivalents for some of those, and they are great lenses. But it’s no excuse not to have CURRENT, up-to-date lenses.
And finally, since the a65 and a77 are certifiable weather-sealed, any new high-grade lenses should be too. It’s long been a criticism of the Sony lineup. Lenses like our 16-35ZA, 24-70ZA etc are better than the Canon L equivalents, but the lack of weather sealing is ALWAYS quoted as a negative in any review. And personally, if I invest £1400 in a lens, I want a bit more guarantee that it won’t break in the rain.
The a65 has no weather sealing.
Agree about the lack of 35mm FF. 85 would be nice, but I think we are stuck with the ones available for a while sadly. Is there a 12-24 that covers full frame on any system? (genuine question). 70-200 f4 is certainly popular, just look at the beercan!
Sigma 12-24mm is FF lens. Very interesting, but slow lens.
Nikon has a 14-24 though.
Sorry I mis-typed. I meant 14-24 (Nikon – it’s a great lens)
Sony has the best lenses. Sony has the cheapest lenses. But Sony DOESN’T have good value lenses. Lenses like the Nikon 85/1.8D are great performers but they’re small and cheap. Great for somebody who wants a fast prime for delving into occasional portraits or candids.
Sony doesn’t give you that choice. And that’s a shame I think. It also doesn’t tie with the a850/900 being the most affordable full frame options.
If they wanted more casual users to shoot full frame, they need affordable lenses. Why create an affordable full frame camera and only have £1400 lenses to go with it.
Yes please, 85mm f/1.8 FF SSM please for $600-700. I got 85 f/1.8 but sadly Nikon mount. Also need 12-24 FF SSM f/2.8 please. Would buy it for $500-600. Then I would need 50 FF SSM f/1.4 around $400.
Those prices are a bit unrealistic.
A 12-24/2.8 for full frame will be at least £1400.
And if the rumors of a Zeiss 50/1.4 SSM are true, it will cost what a 50L costs. Around £1000.
Can we have more fast e-mount prime lenses???
I won’t buy a NEX camera till there are more lenses available.
Whilst not exactly the most interesting of cameras I do think that the TX200V is a great looking camera – even more impressive is that it stands out from the crowd of cameras that have the exact same body dimensions/shape! Really liking the single glass front panel, very well done.
I looks more like back of a smartphone.
I agree Tom. But why can’t they let these cameras take RAW images? I want a small camera for diving and don’t trust a waterproof housing. Plus a DSLR would be too big anyway.
Anyone suggest a reasonable solution?
Cheers!
It is simple, because noise level of P&S is horrible and therefore it is not to be shown.
I don’t get it! The NEX is only P&S size. They could make a NEX with fixed on (non-interchangeable) lens and 12MP sensor. And waterproof it. It could easily be done. It’s just a question of putting a APS-C sensor into a P&S camera. The NEX is surely almost there!!
My comment was to no RAW in P&S.
more a-mount lenses please, and new firmware for the A77!!!! an a-mount 16-70 would be welcome with a more attractive price range ($350-450)
Any word on Rokkor lenses? I’d love to see the 1.2/58mm brought back!
Yes indeed! that would be very nice!
Preferably without the radioactive lens.
Minolta reformulated and dropped the thorium oxides pretty early in the lens’s life, so the majority of examples aren’t radioactive.
They did contain a lot of lead, though.
I really hope that Sony won’t just focus on their NEX cameras, but also their A-Mount camera. Hopefully, they can replace their current lens with SSM.
Opps. 😀
It is interesting that the TX200V can now do 1080/60p. I know this has been rolling out in higher end Sony’s since the HX9V, but it is nice to see it trickling down the food chain. Compacts have traditionally had really rubbish compressors in them which made the HX9 really stand out from the crowd and there was quite a buzz around about how good the video out of such an entry level camera could be – sure they aren’t as cinematic as larger sensor cameras but it was still leaps and bounds ahead of everything else even close to ot’s catagory.
Sometimes that’s a good thing.
If you want to shoot something with more depth of field, on an APS-C or full-frame sensor you need to stop the lens down, making the image darker. Then you need more ISO, or extra lights.
But with a small sensor, having bigger DOF is easier!
Absolutely! Though the sensor size zealots would never agree 😉
i am using the rokkor 58 1.2..great lens on the A77, but i still prefer the mc pg 50 1.4..
Rokkor is the best, i’ve been using rokkor lenses for 7 years, unbeatable, if your compare to the others minolta and sony AF… the mc 21 2.8 is also great but quite expensive..
A good move by Sony should be the addition of updated with SSM, weatherproof sealed lenses based on the current ones to match the A77 and new models coming with this feature.. And then, some of those lenses with max. constant aperture of 2.8, offer them with f4 instead at a reduced price for entry users not capable of buying the SAL300F28G or SAL70200G. There are many f/2.8 or wider aperture lenses that are very expensive so keeping an amount of users going tight on budget, in my personal opinion, is a very wise move. Maybe one more SLT or SLR for entry users and then bring all those FF cameras.
Yeah… hopefully when they release A99, they can make their prime lens with SSM and weatherproof seal.
The DSC-TX200V look awesome ! Minimalist design with Highest technologie !
+1 for SONY 😉
Since this dicussion turned into some list of wishes …
After the A77 with the 16-50 2.8 SSM, one lens should be released as soon as possible: A 50-150 2.8 SSM!!! (As a matter od course weather-sealed.)
But that’s just my opinion. (And hopefully Sony thinks the same …)
This idea makes a lot of sense to me! 50-150/2.8 sounds great, and the same build quality and sealing as the 16-50
Go buy it from Sigma. They make the 50-150mm you are asking for.
I know that Sigma sells such a lens.
But in my opinion a 50-150/2.8 SSM would make a lot of sense in Sony’s current line-up. Furthermore I see it as the perfect counterpart to the 16-50/2.8 SSM. And therefor I expect a better build quality compared to the Sigma-lens (e.g. weather-sealed).
I agree. I was going to disagree with this idea but I gave it a little more thought, as it would be a DT lens Sony can make it cheaper and not have fear of cannibalization of the 70-200G it seems like a logical step along the same lines as the DT 16-50. While I wish Sony would make more mid range FF lenses, I believe they will continue to use DT vs FF as a differentiator.
We need NEX cams NEX lens!!!
We don’t need A mount anymore!!!
XDDD
I will switch to the NEX system when:
1) Autofocus is faster and more reliable compared to a-mount bodies, or at least as good.
2) The price of a body with full manual control is right (comparable to a-mount bodies)
3) In body SS is applied or most lenses have OIS, including prime lenses.
nope
The A mount is not dead yet!!!!!!!!!!!
Copy&Paste from another forum 🙂
Just like the rest of manufacturers… PnS made for sell, not to be efficient machines. PnS tech limits was reached ¿3 years ago? and now cam-makers (all) are marketing pure smoke.
The PnS road time ago came to an end, in my opinion.
The only ways I see for creating valuable PnS are: integrate bigger sensors and lenses (ala Canon G1X, Fuji X100, etc.) or wait for liquid lenses (with a comfortable chair).
Nowadays we are living the agony of classical PnS. Mobile Phone killed the camera star 😀
I like your icon very much 😉
coz she’s the only woman? =p
The Internet is the perfect place to solicit women;
Thank you very much 🙂 I hope not to be the only woman …
Any news about a Sony large(r) sensor compact? eg competitor to the Canon G1 X?
The G1X is Canon’s attempt to deny the existence of the NEX and Micro Four Thirds to their faithful.
Just get a NEX with a kit zoom.
+1
Not interested! And no offence intended, but that doesn’t answer my question. The NEX is an unbalanced system. The lenses are huge and anything smaller than the NEX-7 looks really weird with anything other than a pancake. It’s not a compact system as far as I’m concerned. That’s my opinion. I’m not stating it as fact, so please don’t bother refuting it.
I’m looking at the Nikon J1 (have yet to see size in person though), Fujifilm X10, Canon G1 X, and maybe a Panny GF2 w/ the 20mm on there most of the time.
I’m an advanced amateur / prosumer and want higher quality images (dynamic range, low light), macro ability, some zoom, etc without having to carry a huge kit with 2 or 3 lenses.
A large(r) sensor Sony could really kick ass. I’m thinking of something with a fixed, bright (!) zoom lens (3-4x is fine, but bright at telephoto too), with a sensor somewhere near the size of the Nikon 1 series. A sensor this size would be the right balance at keeping the camera size and more importantly lens size and optics cost down, while keeping the optics bright. With sony’s sensor tech this could be the perfect compact package.
Sort of a modernized version of the Sony DSC-R1
The G1X is not a small camera, either, even if the lens doesn’t protrude as much as some of the NEX lenses do. It’s significantly taller than even the NEX-7 is.
There are shorter lenses in the m43 and Samsung NX systems if the NEX lenses protrude too much for your taste.
FYI, the Nikon 1 lenses are pretty large to the point of having little size advantage over NEX. They do come in pink and red and they do have a really really small sensor, whatever that is good for.
now that is slick! good one sony. just be fair on the price tag. 🙂
TX200v looks really cyber, and cannot believe it is waterproof. But isn’t 18MP too much for a 1/2.3″ Exmor R CMOS?
Sony should do a survey whether customer needs such a high resolution for a DC
Why not.. Only “educated” shooters afraid of largish MP. Average customers like it.
Anyone in UK looking for a77 with kit lense – UK Digital had a small amount delivered today.
Also I’ve got a nex 7 body I’m thinking about selling – paid £1000 for it from Jacobs three weeks ago. Going to put it on Gumbtree for £1200. – yes I know this may seem greedy but folk have sold them for £1500 on eBay. I also had to gamble pre ordering this from Jacobs in October not knowing when I would get the camera.
The camera is basically brand new – taken a nominal amount of shots.
There have been big changes in camera industry the last few years as technology continues to make thing smaller and often better at the same time. The NEX-7 is producing some incredible images and often doing so with what pixel-counters like me to be mediocre lens, It’s just too bad that optical designs don’t follow something like Moore’s law and get smaller and faster “better” every few years to keep up with the camera electronics 🙂
I haven’t used one so I don’t know what it would be like to hold one all day during a photo shoot or what it would take to attach my wireless flash triggers for my strobes, but for covering street or protest stuff and photo journalism in general I’m seeing the NEX platform as the way to go.
I’ve always owned full frame cameras, and for Weddings, studio, portrait and landscape work I still see full frame and DSLR/SLT platform and their big, heavy, and expensive lenses as the way to go, but for everything else………
I now think that camera’s like the NEX represent the future.
Question:
Is it true or not true that the E-mount as developed for the NEX system is an inherently flawed design, making a full frame NEX difficult or impossible?
I’ve read a lot of posts on this site and on others from posters that state this, and before I begin “pulling the trigger” and investing in a new mount I would like to know more.
From what I’ve heard a full-frame wont fit in the NEX mount. Not to mention new full-frame lenses.
It just seems that NEX was based around APS-C and is likely to stay that way.
A NEX full frame is possible. But then you will have really really huge lenses.
FF NEX is ridiculous idea to me. FF is 95% for pros who demand fast auto focus which in case of current NEX line is just a dream.
So, do you think that the E-mount is the future for Sony and if so, what happens to the A-mount, Canon and Nikon do makeup maybe 90% of the market, right?
I’ve read that Sony was caught by surprise not only by the success the NEX platform is having with the ex-point and shoot and cell-phone upgrade crowd but the interest from enthusiasts and pros.
Do you believe that Sony thought this through or are there big changes in store in the next year or so?
A-mount is to stay. Several executives of SONY expressed their thoughts about future NEX cams and also about FF. Although they did not say it is not possible to make FF NEX it is clear to me that there is no FF NEX on the table.
For what would you need FF NEX, for architecture or landscape? 24Mpx is not enough to you? Come on.
Sony has thrown in the face against the top of the range SLR market a few years ago with the Alpha900 which, though excellent in many respects and offered at a very competitive price has been totally ignored by the pros who already had a Nikon or Canon kits. .. even if today we put the results against the giants would be the same unless you give us a 400mm f2.8 at all! In essence, the question is: why a professional should go to Sony when the historical brands already offer everything you might need?
should also create an ‘ecosystem’ suitable, 200 2, 400 2.8, 500 4, 600 4 .. and how much they sell?
The Minolta/Sony system offers a different aesthetic to that offered by Canon and Nikon, one more concerned with the artistic qualia of out of focus rendering, chromaticity, tonality, rather than simply generating something salable.
A lot of pros are minimally concerned with those things, it’s all business at the end of the day. But there are definitely serious and skilled photographers who are willing to put up with the at times aggravating deficiencies of Sony in exchange for something more artistically satisfying. Even if that means no 400/2.8.
18.2 megapixel sensor?
It’s better than Nikon’s D4!
Man, Sony is kicking some serious booty.
Looks like Sony is build a new SLT to replace A55. It is good that Sony is build two style for mid class SLT. High Pixel A65 and High ISO A56? LOL
I will consider the High ISO one, if the EVF is as good as A65.
The rumour stated that it did not have the EVF from the A65/77.
Yes, If it is a very good EVF, It is still acceptable. If it only have the EVF from old A55, I don’t like that.
Oh Boy – I just about persuaded my self to buy the A65 + lenses as my first move up to dslr/dslt from compact camera’s.
Now I’m thinking shall I wait for this announcement!?
How long is soon?
Once again, limiting the DC’s video standard according to region is a mistake. I hope Sony will stop this practice in the near future.
Back to TX200v/TX300v
It is really an amazing camera. Well done Sony.
Packed:
18.2MP 1/2.33″ CMOS with ISO12,800
0.1-0.2sec AF
5m water resist
3.3″ 1.22M OLED
Wifi + GPS + Transfer Jet (wireless charging and transfer, one of NFC?)
5x optical zoom
into a 16mm thick body.
Simon_P,
It may well be an amazing camera, we shall see.
But packing an 18.2MP 1/2.33″ sensor into a 16mm thick body is no greater engineering feat than a 6MP one – they both have the same physical size. On paper (or on screen) it does seem an impressive specification though.
I hope it does prove to be a really good camera. Then I will join you in saying “Well done Sony.”