Sony really hit a home-run with the NEX-7 but there is no time for them to sit down on their glorious success. I think the new Fuji camera you see here at Mirrorlessrumors is definitely going to challenge the NEX-7. Maybe Sony could lower the price of the NEX-7 to counterattack Fuji? 🙂
Joke aside, there are a couple of things that are nice on the Fuji.
1) it has a hybrid viewfinder. Actually the optical viewfinder zooms in and out depending on the kind of lens you use.
2) It has three wonderful prime lenses. Something that we really need for our system too!
3) it has an external phase detection sensor. It’s a new way to get fast AF without having to rely on the contrast AF or SLT technology. Sounds also very cool!
Anyway, I think Fuji did what Nikon avoided to do. A serious mirrorless cameras. Maybe the future battle will be between Canon, Sony and Fuji and no more a battle against Nikon and Micro Four Thirds.
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i agree, if fuji can get the af right (as in fast enough) the better apsc sensor quality will def leave m43 and nikon in the dust
No flip-out LCD—that’s a deal breaker in my opinion.
I don’t understand how they can continue to make cameras without this feature.
In this case, it doesn’t conform to the “retro” design.
Only for engineers that could not make it right. Fix it with magnets, hide all holes under decorative parts, create beautiful hinge – and you’ll get the right retro look, feel of quality and the functionality.
Not good enough. Even with 100% manual lenses compatibility, the hybrid finder will still prove to be the achille’s heel to the system, and keep avid manual lenses users away.
Why? Just flick to evf mode and it will be just like nex7
Urgh.. so depressing that Fuji can LAUNCH a camera with three fast prime lenses
Why are we STILL waiting for this for NEX?
We’ve been clamouring for a wide prime (18mm f2 for Fuji) 35mm prime (Fuji 35 1.4) and a portrait lens (60mm 2.4) for ages
I’ve been considering buying an X100 because everybody absolutely loves them. And the metering, image quality etc seem fantastic. And now this shows great promise. APS-C sensor, sensible resolution, we know it will have good high ISO, and now there are three nice prime lenses announced…
C’mon Sony – get moving!!!
You’ve bought an x100 Just because everybody loves them? Wow.
Been CONSIDERING
And yes, user reviews and testimonies are a key influence on a buying decision. What do you base your decisions on?
At first I thought the X100 was a stupid idea and overpriced, but so many positive reviews from good photographers have made me think about it seriously as a replacement for a dSLR in some scenarios.
I do not read reviews to buy a camera. Replacement for a DSLR? Despite all the hype, it is only a P&S cam with a fixed lens. Hybrid viewfinder and all that is just non-sense for P&S cam. Granted that it is centuries ahead compared to the way over priced and under specd Leica X1 but still it is a P&S cam.
You don’t read reviews?
Sure, I’d love to try ever single item in store, but you need reviews and testimonies to know which items should be considered. I wouldn’t just buy something on blind faith either.
And yeah, lots of pro photographers are using it as a dSLR replacement IN SOME SCENARIOS (as I said in my previous post). It has a hotshoe and a sync of 1/1000 with a built in ND filter. That’s more useful than most dSLRs for off-camera flash.
Zack Arias uses it for his street photography stuff too. It’s small and inconspicuous and does well in low light.
I know it’s a glorified P&S, with several limitations, but that hasn’t stopped a massive amount of positive reviews and testimonies. People seem to ENJOY shooting it, which is something you rarely hear about a camera. I’m not going to throw out my a850 and Zeiss lenses, but as a convenient, fun camera for traveling light, it looks like a good option.
Reply to David (can’t find the reply option):
Yes, that is correct. I do not read reviews to buy a camera or a lens.
FWIW, I already have a NEX-7 (bought it based on manufacturer’s specs and the expectations- it lives up to those) and am enjoying it! 🙂
i has been trying fuji x100 and i think the control is weird and really hard to master it, ergonomic is not good too, and doesn’t have Image stabilizer on camera. but that’s really nice camera i think because have manual control dial, dual type viewfinder, very nice small pancake lens, build in ND filter, high sync speed, and nice retro style 😀
Most reviews on the ‘net are done by the clueless, whose only claim-to-fame is a web site/blog. For the most part DP Reviews tests are less than useful for me. YMMV.
I’ll check-out the manufactures specs, and if it looks like a tool I’d use I’ll either order it or rent one to test.
@Vivek “it is only a P&S cam with a fixed lens”
Just like a Rollei TLR was only a glorified Box Brownie I suppose.
Reply to c.d.embry:
I write camera reviews. I am willing to take the time to share my thoughts and opinions on a product and put them down in writing and then take the heat for my thoughts and opinions from all of the armchair quarterbacks out there.
Getting the camera makers to cough up a review sample takes a lot of time, discussion, face-to-face at trade shows and trust-building. They won’t hand the camera to any monkey who can push a button and hold a crayon.
Many times you have unreasonable return times because a product is popular, in demand, and the company’s marketing budget is constrained and they have few review samples. I played with an X1 for 10 days and had to send it back. I have not published a review of it b/c of the limited time with the camera would not allow me to write anything meaningful.
Sometimes the only way to review a product is to buy it outright and take your time. I have no personal oil wells or wealthy doting relatives to support this method, so this happens less and less.
Sometimes you get lucky, most of the times you don’t.
Some reviewers are better than others. Some (*cough*Ken Rockwell*cough*) think they are God’s Gift to Photography. I have no such expectations. I just hope that someone finds my insights useful.
well, you have 3 other fast primes: 16/2.8, 24/1.8 and 50/1.8
Our nifty cheapy fifty will beat the crap out of their slowy sixty. The 16mm is a sub-200 lens which can’t be compared to a $600. But NEX actually has a zoom lens! Shocking right?
The 60mm is a MACRO, unlike the 50mm, and is the right FL for a macro, unlike NEX macro lens. The Fuji kit is a prime shooter, not a tiny zoom shooter (f/6.3 anybody?)
I don’t know much about this Fuji, but I’m confident it will kick the SNOT out of the existing NEX lenses, excepting the 24. Sony will have to alter their lens plans now (good for you NEXtians), and the price of the NEX7 will have to come down a bit (sorry there, early adopters).
Fuji have a long history of making *very* good lenses. In the same league as Zeiss.
I thought their history was more into making good film.
@David
Fuji is clearly focusing on rangefinder users and serious photographers. Those of us that have done this for years know that Fuji chose 3 of the most important lenses you can own to launch the system with. However, Sony has traditionally focused on the Best Buy buying crowd…those customers will be scratching their head wondering where the 18-55mm zoom lens is.
It won’t surprise me at all if Sony still outsells Fuji, but I don’t care one iota. I’m just happy someone other than Leica has finally made a compact no frills “photographers camera”. I can’t tell you how thrilled I am to see aperture rings on their lenses! Fuji, here I come…
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Prtety much. I just find it crazy that Sony *still* hasn’t made some lenses which are pretty much essential imo
The Zeiss 24/1.8 is nice I’m sure, but $1000…
It’s typical Sony imo.. very contradictory and confusing for consumers. They release an expensive pro camera with a ton of features like the NEX-7, but then sell 18-55 kit lenses with it. They do the same with the alpha lineup.. the same company make cheap plastic crap throwaway alphas with face detection and smile shutter, but also the most “serious” photographic cameras with huge viewfinder, no fancy features etc (a850/900) at the same time. And for lenses – you have a cheap plastic lens or a Zeiss.. nothing in the middle. Want a wide angle zoom for full frame? Your only choice is a 16-35/2.8 which is very expensive.
I think Fuji are going right down the middle.. a sensible price/performance/size ratio and a clear target market. I think they will do well. And I hope it inspires Sony to get some more nice lenses out there.
This is good news, because better competition, hopefully will lead to better products. Will wait to see if there is a Nex-7N down the line.
Like any other shopper I will wait till monday and see what the Fuji looks like, but with rumors of a 1500$ body alone price, this might be a deal breaker.
Waiting for the NEX-7 is painfull Sony might loose some sells.
On the other hand I also red that the body alone might be 800$, this could force Sony to lower the 7’s price, and I’m all for that.
We shall see what happens
I agree. It’s all goodness for Sony users. The rumor is 1300 euro for body and the 35mm, 2500 euro for the whole kit (i.e. all 3 lenses). Sony will have to answer with more aggressive pricing.
luckily my nex7 is still on the waiting list! this fuji sounds like everything i wanted!! compact fast primes mmmmm 🙂 with autofocus??? how’d they do that and not leica???
sexy body, I wish Sony can build a NEX in the form of the Minolta CLE that would be amazing
I like that they had the guts to make the standard lens f1.4
Their decision to name the camera’s mount “X mount” is maddening, though. For those that don’t know, Fuji’s film SLR mount back in the 70s-80s had the same name. I can see people shopping for X mount lenses on ebay and getting a nasty shock when they try to attach it.
lol xxx funny
Different camera for different users, not really a competition for NEX7. I agree, some will preffer it but most will stay with NEX.
Disatvantages:
– price ( well, this is in NEX7 range for body, but you should consider lenses also).
– lenses – good and bad.Good primes, but no zoom ?.Also lenses are not cheap and you will need a few as they are primes only. This also adds weight so not the best solution if you travel.
– Viewfinder.Some may like it but this type of viewfinder will work ONLY with a few fixed prime lenses. This is Achile’s heel for this type of viewfinder like other said. I’m not sure but the external autofocus system may also work only with the few fixed lenses.
– How about video ? Fuji allways had video more like an aftertough at least 1-2 generation behind the others. Not even sure the have video and if camera has not sure is 1080p60.
– Doubt that it has all extra modes (Twilight, HDR DRO Panorama which Sony provides).
– Sensor: 16 Mpixel (I know some want it but I prfer the 24 Mpixel one).
In conclusion, a good camera, but for a very small niche of custemers. I suspect Fujy may sell 1 for every 100 NEX7 Sony will sell (this may be very optimistic …)
Price is 1300€ WITH 35mm 1.4 lens. What does NEX-7 body only cost? 1200€?
I’d rather have some good primes instead of those big sony zooms. Well sony has that 24mm zeiss but it costs almost 1k and is big too.
That viewfinder works with all lenses in EVF-mode just like NEX-7.
Great, buy it if it fits you.Like I said there is a market for it also.You are the 1%.
I dunno Adi. If it gets ridden as hard as the X100 (which were sold out everywhere for months), I think it will do well.
“I suspect Fujy may sell 1 for every 100 NEX7 Sony will sell (this may be very optimistic …)”
I agree with that assessment (disclaimer: I am totally uneducated or interested with sales figures, markets and such!).
Once the NEX-7 is widely available and people actually get their hands on one, they would appreciate it very much.
I am not a strap person (especially the ones from camera manufacturers) but I even like the NEX-7′ strap. Absolutely a gorgeous camera with a performance to match. It puts pressure on the owners to do better photography! 🙂
is too early to splash cold water to x pro1
1:100 is a way-off ratio. How many NEX 7 buyers do you think there are? Maybe that ratio could be correct for the 5n (which is likely to also be bought by mom and pop types). The 7 is too expensive and too specialist (as is the Fuji) for those kinds of volumes.
Also, the Fuji is actually CHEAPER than the 7.
External phase detection sensor? the page you linked to said external autofocus sensor. which sounds like an active autofocus sensor, not a passive one like phase detection. Active uses IR or sound to focus, like compacts from the time before contrast detection.
could be a hybrid solution like the fuji finepix, either hybrid with contrast detection or with phase detection on sensor.
It’s not only a 16mp sensor but also a new kind of Aps-c sensor with different photosites “shape” from a Bayer sensor and without AA filter !!! Sounds like great image quality…
Maybe I’ll change my mind for the Nex-7 !?.. After all it was a chance waiting for so long to get it….?
Sony should hurry up with stocks and flood the market with the 7… Maybe then a $100 rebate for those who still haven’t made their minds yet
after the hard effort sony made the a77/nex7 so hard to find in the market. due to the demand, price up 10-15% 😀 lol…
Damn! I can’t believe they made a 35/1.4, and look at the size!
lens size extremely small, but body twice thicker than nex7
Well, it depends on the flange distance. I’m guessing it will just a couple more milimeters than the E-mount. Can you imagine that lovely tiny 35, with a slim adapter, on the NEX? 😀
Flange distance is 17.7 mm. NEX flange distance is 18mm.
It’s 17.7mm, so it’s not gonna happen 🙁 FYI, NEX is 18m
It can happen if the the lenses can be truly operated as MF lenses- ie., if aperture and focus can be adjusted manually without being attached to an X body.
Just buy some of the crappy 16/2.8 G lenses to get the NEX mounts and use them change the mounts on the Fuji ones. 😉
I see, I didn’t know the flange was so short 🙁 But as Vivek said, it’s only 0.3mm, it’s quite possible to make a mount conversion
Actually at 17.7mm the flange focal distance is a hair smaller than the NEX at 18mm ~ so you won’t be able to adapt the Fujinon primes to the NEX.
Who the h@ll cares about how thick the body is other than stupid Sony marketers? Thin body and a bunch of longer lenses still requires a bigger bag than a thick body with a bunch of smaller lenses. It’s still undecided whether Sony thin body will hurt or help them in the future. Right now, it’s not gaining any points for them..
The interesting thing to me is that the colour sensors are, according to that report, configured in a random (or, I suspect more accurately, pseudo-random) manner thereby avoiding moire and similar artefacts. Then there is the use of 6 different sensor colour cells. The former, at least bears some relationship with the eye as colour receptors (indeed all receptors) are not laid out in rigid matrices. On other forums I’ve suggested that the pseudo-random (but not 5 colour) photosite placement would help eliminate moiree and other artefacts cuased by sampling on a regular matrix. However, there are a couple of major issues with this approach. The first one is that it will require a wholly new approach to de-mosaicing RAW data. Indeed, it’s going to break every RAW converter out there, if this is reported accurately, and will require fundamental redesigns unless the “pseudo-random” character turns out only to be a marginally more complex layout. I also can’t imagine this being compatible with DNG unless Adobe have been amazingly prescient in their technical specification.
Then there is another, rather more subtle issue. With a random or pseudo-random photosite layout, the results may be non-deterministic. That is the colours rendered and the detail resolved might depend on exactly which part of the sensor any component of the image is focussed onto. That’s the case with the eye, and (some Bayer artefacts not withstanding), is not the position with “traditional” sensors.
A final point is that sampling artefacts are not limited to sensors. There are artefacts that can be observed in the down-sizing of images once they are put into the regular matrix format of all standard image files. Given that the entire software and hardware stack of image processing relies on this rigid format present in TIFF, JPEG, PNG and the like, not to mention printers, screens and the like, sampling artefacts will not be eliminated.
Still, an interesting approach. I for one am going to be interested to see how DXOmark would possibly rate such a sensor as I suspect it’s wholly incompatible with their methodology if it’s as described.
Good analysis!
Agreed, as we’ve become used to seeing from Steve Jones. 😉
I wish I understood the technology better and terminology better…
The likely pseudo-random arrangement to use would be a Penrose tiling. (See Wikipedia for details).
However, even an irregular mosaic is still a mosaic – it is the same arrangement as in the Autochrome plates of a century ago. A layered arrangement as in all modern colour films (and the Foveon sensors) is so much better.
Even in a layered (or laminated as Sony call it) sensor, an irregular arrangement of pixels would still be better than a grid for avoiding moirees.
Using more than three primaries is very good.
I’m aware of Penrose tiling – and I believe he was prepared sue the manufacturer of embossed toilet paper for using it unlicenced (and Penrose’s other work as I studies physics). It’s extremely unlikely that sensor patterns would use Penrose tiling. I doubt very much that the actual photosite layout will be anything other than a mosaic of some sort, as to have anything else would make it extremely difficult to read and processes the results. The brain and the optic nerve can do this, but it’s so radically different from anything that semi-conductors or signal processing do, it would be amount to a complete revolution in image processing technology from top to bottom.
I think any pseudo-random patterns will simply be the overlay of colour filters over the 2-D sensor matrix. That will look nothing like Penrose tiling.
As for the multi-layer approach, then find. It does not eliminate all moire artefacts, although it will get rid of colour moire. However, multi-layer techniques have not shown themselves to be as efficient in collecting light. For instance, Foveon has got a relatively poor QE, especially for some colour channels. Perhaps somebody will be able to fix that one day, but I think it’s anything but straightforward. After all, evolution hasn’t done it – as far as I’m aware all animals with colour vision have separate receptors for each colour channel.
Looks like the new Fuji will give Sony something to worry about. The NEX 7 has suffered from being much too slow (not entirely Sony’s fault – I know), but never-the-less Sony isn’t nearly fast enough when it comes to bringing Alpha and NEX stuff to the market.
Why aren’t there (for example) a Zeiss or Sony “G” 18/2 and 60/2 available to buy now? The NEX has been a runaway success, but for those who are serious shooters, we have mostly turned to Contax G, Leica, Zeiss M and Voigtlander for quality glass (Where is the Sony stuff?).
As far as I know the NEX 7 will be available as a stock item at the beginning of February (most places), perhaps the Fuji will also be on sale (or very soon afterwards).
I hope this spurs Sony into action, I for one would like a set of decent pancake Sony or Zeiss lenses to buy in the first 1/2 of 2012 rather than having to wait until the next year or the one after that.
Sony has had it’s problems in Thailand, they can’t be blamed for that, but there is a history of slowness and it looks like Fuji will clean up on that.
Sony engineers are busy. They’re busy designing the a56, a57, a67, a69, a71, a79 and other variants of the same models because the Sony marketers need this in order to justify their jobs. Sony have always had this problem. They must have 20-30 different models of camcorders, TV, etc because consumers are obviously engineers plugging every spec into a spreadsheet to decide which model to buy . It’s mind boggling that a company like Apple with a few models is eating their lunch, breakfast, dinner, and snacks.
We’ve heard about Kodak slipping away into history. Note this day. If Sony doesn’t get their act together and focus, they’ll be following Kodak into the history book in 10-15 years. They’re losing money now and have been for quite some time. It won’t take long before lack of focus and yearly losses to end up in Kodak’s position.
They need only 3 models of the alpha to cater to their small marketshare of DSLRs. Stop making so many P&S. The smartphones are killing that market. Focus most of their photographic energies on the NEX. Only 3 models of NEX are needed. 5, 7, and 9. Focus on making lenses.
Sony has a wide range of product lines and businesses to keep them afloat.
Alpha is one of the up and coming lines apart from Bravia , PSP , Playstation , Walkman etc.
Hopefully, the Alpha division get their act together after seeing how Fuji is doing a turnaround by filling the gaps that none has done satisfactory in the mirrorless segment.
@Calxn
I agree entirely. Far too many models, and too many entry levels.
They should have NEX 3, 5 and 7 series
Alpha 3, 5, 7 and 9 series
3 is entry level
5 is intermediate
7 is semi-pro/enthusiast, or pro APS-C
9 is pro, full frame
Then start working on more lenses, especially the intermediate ones.. like a 17-35/f4, 24-105/f4, 70-200/f4.
+1 Calxn . You hit the nail on the head. Sony stop making so many ridiculous camera models, start cranking out some decent lenses.
competition is always good 😀 c’mon sony wake up 😀 make a new great camera with some new lens 😀
Flange distance of 17.7 mm and the lens looks small . Is this an engineering miracle or is there a catch ? In body screw drive af ?
Hybrid ovf can zoom in accordance with lens attached. Does that mean this system is deprived of zoom lenses for ovf view ?
If its evf can match oled evf qualify , it will be a serious Competitor to nex7 …
I’m thinking this is a limited system — 3 primes, no zooms, nothing under 18mm or over 60mm. A Contax system, essentially. Also, maybe it doesn’t take adapted lenses well. We shall see, but it’s got the primes I want, and Sony doesn’t.
competition is always good, but in my eyes its a very different camera.. the awesome thing about the Nex 7 is the trinavi and its form factor.. to me the Fuji looks much bulkier and more like a retro hipster camera. if Sony comes out with some good glas i’m sure they can stay on top of the mirrorless food chain.. i dont really get the whole sensor debate, i find my Nex 7 to capture awesome pictures as does my Nex 5 too 😉 and i dont need nightvision so far
about the hybrid viewfinder… i dont need it 😉 i thought i find the viewfinder in the Nex 7 to be of great use, but reality shows i only use it 5% of the time at most, if the display is hard to read..and then the evf is absolutly great!
17 mm flange distance. Does it mean they don’t scare any problem with angle rays from wide angle symmetric lenses, as M-mount lenses ? This could be the greatest news : to use the full quality potential of the M-Mount lenses with an adpater.
Just prime lenses, no zoom at first ? Not a problem for me.
Hybrid viewfinder : may be an issue. EVF is great, especially with long lenses.
Fuji lenses : most of the time, very good quality lenses. Fuji has a good experience in large format, then symmetric lenses. People seem to ask for compact lenses, here it is !
External focusing system : Hum… I fear…
Anyway, I don,t think it will be sold 1 X-Pro for 100 Nex-7… we bet ?
“17 mm flange distance. Does it mean they don’t scare any problem with angle rays from wide angle symmetric lenses, as M-mount lenses ?”
The flange is just distance when you add an adopter u add distance, the flange could be 0mm (or 20mm) and after adding the m-mount adapter the distance from the sensor to lens (adapted flange) will always be the same.
the only way to fix the off angle light rays on old m-mounted lens is with a modified sensor like the m9 has or to some how make the sensor ultra thin like film. (newer retro focus m-mount lens do not have this problem to the same degree)
I would like to see the IQ, it seems to me that the NEX-7 has really good IQ in many different respects. Even compared to the NEX-5n which I currently love. I don’t think that the FUJI will be as much of a competition as many are touting, it is however an absolutely beautiful camera. I do love the look, but functionally and performance wise I feel the NEX-7 is superior as of yet with no test’s seen. Also price is a large factor, with the x100 being 1200$ I can’t imagine the x-pro being any less, probably a great deal more. The lens choice is brilliant though, fantastic initial roadmap.
This is FANTASTIC news for Sony NEX users.
This is going to force Sony to push out some compact fast primes.
Competition is good for everyone.
Did anyone notice that these are NOT Pancake lenses???
Yes, fortunately they aren’t. No unnecessary compromise in IQ.
They aren’t. How can they be? They are really fast lenses.
With an aperture ring and nice grip to focus manually, they do “look” better (and more compact) than the Zeiss E-Sonnar 24/1.8 (which has no aperture ring).
I think with what we are expecting from Sony regarding the E series lenses this year, those of us who love the NEX will be much better off and just as happy as the day we bought it. 2012 will be a very good year regarding the NEX system as a whole.
Aperture ring or not , as long it can change aperture , it makes no difference. The X100 suffers from sticky aperture issues for quite a number of batches of camera. So I am not sure , if they are going to rush out an imperfect lens for this production in order to catch the wave.
Fuji has always been smart to go retro and ride on the retro saviness buying trend in the compact camera segment. Look at x100, X10 and now the X1 pro. The design concept is consistently applied.
However,many reviewers remains happy to ignore the complicated and unfriendly interface design of the Fuji systems over the camera form. Shrugs ..
While I find this new Fuji system rather appealing, I think I made the right choice buying the NEX-7.
However, I must applaud Fuji on the initial lens choices. In fact, had the 35/1.4 been a 28-30mm lens instead, I would have called the line up perfect.
Why panicking people, Sony is not. Sony right now is worried in put their products back on business because of the flood.
Fuji is not the only company bringing high primes to the market many others did the same, Sony is trying something different with their sensors and when they will get the engineering right they will bring primes that you always have been asking for.
The mirrorless market is getting wider and with the opportunity for people to choose the product for their needs nowadays is not more about passion for a brand but for the quality of the product itself.
Is true that Sony is slow in bringing more variety of lenses into the market but this because they see a large variety of lenses from other brands which they can be use on NEX products.
Let us see what news from CES will come out from Sony.
This Fuji gives no migration path for my Alpha FF lenses. This will be of particular concern when NEX releases some form of full frame platform.
Today I was ready to make my preorder for the Nex 7, bought a Voigtländer Nokton 35/1,2 for the camera and now this camera! But now I decided to sent the lens back and wait some more months for the Nex7. Sony taught me waiting for a new camera so I’ll teach them waiting for my money.
What’s the reason to get a Nex 7 and an relativly expensive lens for a total of ~2200 € if you can have one or two months later a Fuji with a fast AF-lens for about 1000 € less. 8 Megapixels more? Peaking (okay, better)? The possibility to use my old Minolta-Lenses with a LA EA2 (another 300 €)? Hell, I could buy a new Alpha A65 from the money I’m saving on the Fuji and could still go for a 3-day-phototrip to Barcelona or Prague.
Don’t get me wrong, the Nex7 seems to be a fine camera, but significantly overpriced. I don’t see the point why this camera should be more expensive than the A65, other than beeing sold as the top-of-the-line model in the Nex-Range. If you don’t have any other choices, you’ll be likely to shell out the money. But with (presumably) a true competitor? Sony has the misfortune of not getting significant quantities into the market when no direct competitor was on the screen. The waiting was the hardest part – and I hate my almost non-existant AF in the Konica-Minolta Dynax 7D!
Do you folks realize how big the fuji pro is? Look at the mount on the camera. Then look at the mount on the Sony camera. The fuji looks twice as heavy and twice as big. I do hope it’s a great camera, however. More competition in the high end Mirrorless market means competition and the end result is that we get better cameras and lenses.
The X100 was not ‘launched’ until far after the announcement. First retail shipment was, what, almost six months after the announcement? Limited availability for another six months. Fuji SLRs I’ve heard were slow to ship following announcement.
It will be very interesting to see what happens here between Fuji and Sony. Slow and Slower, got to love it.
The cameras are all very nice. And very, very expensive. Hard to see how the segment is not saturated, or very very soon to be. Canon may be the wise one to sit this one out until after the shakeout, and then it can pick and choose its own niche.
Since the sensor is APS-C, I really hope someone will make E to fuji adapter, so that I can use their prime on my 5N.
Unfortunately, that’s impossible. Fuji was smart enough to make the flange distance for the x-mount 17.7mm. The e-mount is 18mm.
let’s hope fuji x pro 1 haven’t same problem “sticky blade” as X100 😀
my guess is, if Sony manages to show/release atleast one nice compact prime until the Fuji is released, they will convince a lot of people that Sony is in the game to win it too 😉 and i’m sure hope they work hard on it.. in my eyes the Nex 7 offers much more in a smaller package.