Photokina is getting closer and some of you may be confused about what could be announced and what is NOT coming. So here is a list of the cameras and lenses you can expect to see announced. Of course these are rumors only for now 🙂
Panasonic cameras:
FT5: A new Micro Four Thirds camera.
FT5: A fixed lens Four Thirds sensor compact camera.
FT2: LX8 (article here).
Olympus cameras:
FT5: A new E-PL7 camera (article here).
FT3: A new Silver E-M1 edition and maybe a 4K firmware update (article here).
Lenses:
FT2: Olympus 9mm PRO prime (article here).
FT4: Black Olympus 12mm f/2.0 lens (article here).
FT4: Olympus 40-150mm PRO lens (article here).
FT5: Panasonic 35-100mm lens (article here).
FT5: Olympus 7-14mm and 300mm PRO lenses (article here).
FT5: Panasonic 150mm f/2.8 lens (article here).
Third party stuff:
FT5: Zyoptics 42,5mm f/1.2 coming (article here).
FT5: Samyang 50mm f/1.5 for MFT (article here).
FT4: Schneider Kreuznach lenses (article here).
What’s not going to happen:
No Olympus Full Frame camera (article here).
No 100-300mm X from Panasonic (article here).
No Panasonic G7 (article here).
No GF camera coming this year (article here).
Like you see there are really many new MFT lenses to come!
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Rumors classification explained (FT= FourThirds):
FT1=1-20% chance the rumor is correct
FT2=21-40% chance the rumor is correct
FT3=41-60% chance the rumor is correct
FT4=61-80% chance the rumor is correct
FT5=81-99% chance the rumor is correct
73 Responses
The thing that I want to see is the announcement of an E-M1 40-150mm Pro kit. Do we think that this will happen? I’ve tried and love the 12-40mm with my E-M5 but I can’t justify the cost when I have faster primes across the board for those lengths. 40-150 really fills a hole though!
it’s disapointing to see that no new camera model is coming from Olympus I mean a real upgrade, My E-M5 is 2,5 years old now and it seems no replacement is coming soon….
maybe the Schneider Kreuznach lenses will be the only real new stuff coming for this year
Wasn’t the Pana 150/2.8 cancelled?? I remember something…..
It was shelved briefly, but reappeared.
I’d have preferred the higher-grade 100-300mm f4.
Yes, a higher grade 100-300 is definetly the largst point on my m43 wishlist! C’mon panasonic: Do it!
Especially with the AF advancement, BIF seems more realistic now.
Yeah, it’s always astonishing how limiting even a 300 or 400mm equivalent FL feels when trying to photograph wildlife, for instance.
It’s no surprise to me at all that 1/2.3″ superzooms still hold great appeal for many people.
Panasonic chose the wrong one to bring to market. The 100-300mm f4 would have much more popular.
I want that 9mm f2.8! Hope it will turn out to be a real thing!
Why no Panasonic G7???
Panasonic G6 is the best ergonomic, feature rich m43 body for a good price.
:S:S:S :(:(:(
I understand the frustration of G holders . Because it don’t fulfill / hit the sales volume for a product to keep growing .
The G is aimed for small SLR style camera lovers but failed to advance further once the OMD debut hit the market .
The more outstanding camera that is overdue is EM5 that need successor .
Olympus is smart to hold it & waiting for new techs to be unveiled in this master class camera .
Meantime I’m curious to see what kind of Pana new camera coming if not a GF or G camera .
The class of this camera ???
Above GX ???
Wait, FT2 for LX8? Does this rating concern only the latest specs, or the introducing of the camera itself?
After all the hype on 43rumours about the LX8 it does seem to have gone very quiet rumour wise. FT2 is disappointing 🙁
or the LX8 will have 43 sensor: FT5: A fixed lens Four Thirds sensor compact camera.
would love a 14-150 or better 12-150 kinda pro version, think panasonic leica 14-150 but environment sealed. would be a killer travel lens. now serious on the fence for either getting a em1/mmf3 to use with my 12-60swd/50-200 swd instead of my e3, would shave of weight and size still weather proof or? well uh even a canon (sorry 70d) with a tamron 16-300 is a tempting travel combination, knowing that it will require more work in lightroom and will not be as high iq or light sensitive as the em1 but will probably focus more reliable and fast as the swd’s…. pffff soooo difficult
any rumors for the new Panny m43 camera?? i remember admin told here a while ago that he is pretty sure what it is going to be..?
We need E-M5 upgrade, new version! E-M1 is fugly with that grip.
a big grip is important for long shoots or when you want to keep the cam in your hand all the time the E-M1 is prob feels better then the E-M5 & HLD-6 as it is bigger/deeper
Notsofug once you’ve got the HLD-7 attached.
Improved ergonomics, additional functionality and extra shooting up the whazoo.
3 x new cameras from Panasonic; exciting times; meanwhile Olympus R & D still working on which shade of silver for their new camera and if the lens hood should be premium version in a presentation box
Don’t leave out that earth shattering advanced splash filter!
This is innovation rewritten!!! 😉
It seems that Panasonic has listened to users to some extent. The GH2 morphed (sadly for me) into a beefier GH3/4. They released the first true rangefinder type body in the GX7. The GM1 blew minds across the spectrum, too.
C’mon…the splash-activation/splash-proof GH-4 is going to sell like hotcakes in the ₱orn Industry!!!! No secret there!!!!
I really want to check a GM1 in real life, but never seen it here.
It’s incredibly small and cute! I was SO tempted the first time I handled one. And the 12-32mm is actually quite a nice lens, too.
My girlfriend loved the GM1, but I wanted her to get used to shooting with my GX1 before selling it. She ended up preferring using it with the LVF2. AND she wanted a 14-140mm II instead of the 14-42mm II I got for her… it’s not zoomy enough OR the original 14-140mm I already have… too heavy. Sheesh! 😉
Let’s just hope that Olympus actually does have something new and exciting for September, but have been really good at keeping it secret.
Great overview, good service!
ahhh…with no new sensor I can just keep running my current Oympus’ and know that I am not missing anything…
There has to be a significant breakthru in the next year or are we on tech hold as the phones take over the camera market???
Yeah it’s time for sensor improvements. The cameras are amazing, but the sensor is long in the tooth. While hard to use, the D800e sensor is twice as good. Before I get flamed I own both m43 and nikon systems. I’d love to 86 my nikons but I can’t becasue the low light performance and shadow recovery (file performance of the Nikon sensor is so vastly superior).
Are you serious? The current Sony and Panasonic sensors in the latests releases of m43 cameras are absolutely excellent performing sensors, with extraordinary DR. I already can make nausea inducing HDR landscape images from one file. Besides, using the very best FF sensor currently made and which is only available in $2200+ camera bodies, as your benchmark for Micro Four Thirds really is laughable. If low light performance is your top priority, m43 is not your best choice. Why not a Sony A7R?
A good recommendation — he could use all of his Nikon glass on the A7, since there are not many native A7 options. But as you say, M43 files are pretty rich in the current generation of cameras. M43’s small, fast, lightweight lenses are more hand holdable, and attached to Oly’s amazingly stabilized body, the supposed FF “low light advantage” is pretty slim. Then factor in cost, mirror slap noise and the fun factor, and… Well, you know.
The ‘surprise’ for GH4 owners, which you wrote about yesterday, is now missing from the Panasonic overview. http://shared.info/7q
Surprise is firmware for gamma log.
What happen to the rumor of the Olympus Trip camera, a fixed lens large sensor camera.
PLEASE announce availability and costs of the O40-150PRO and O7-14PRO.
Bonus points for the O9PRO. My first born for either a O9PRO-Fish or O9PRO-TS.
I’m not fussy.
Surpruse announcement of an O100/150-250/300PRO wouldn’t hurt in the least.
Is anyone having a problem with odd pop up links to apps while viewing this site?
No G or GF, but new MFT from Panny. GM2 or GX8?
Yeah, that’s a bit of a conundrum. The GM1 is newer than the GX7, but also has more novelty potential if they can include some new features. So far it occupies a fairly unique niche in the market, unlike the GX7 which is a capable competitor among capable competitors (E-M10, a6000, and X-E2 all come to mind immediately).
Agreed. Ultra small has big novelty attraction and would be a good place to concentrate. I’d want a GM2 (or Trip D) with a left side EVF, tilt screen, weather sealing and ruggedization in the GM size. I don’t like the GM controls so would gladly tolerate a few centimeter concession to buttons and dials. 🙂
The really big innovation (a huge leap in sensor tech via the “organic”) seems a ways off, sadly.
Sound like you are asking for an upgrade to the GX7. A camera with these specs would no longer be small like the GM1.
Yes, I’d love a GX8 with serious ruggedization, 4K, an improved VF, etc., but I think that the GM1 is so small that you could add the EVF and still be sufficiently smaller than the GX7 to be uniquely interesting. But an updated GX8 with 4K might be premature, as it would likely not be as robust as the GH4, but could create some customer confusion.
Maybe the “fixed lens” (FT5: A fixed lens Four Thirds sensor compact camera.) will deliver something along those lines. Presumably, a fixed lens could be smaller and faster than an interchangeable one. a fast 24-90 field of view would be incredible
I would love either a GX8 or a GM2 with some sort of EVF option (maybe a pop-up like the RX100 III?) and tilting screen.
Honestly, I think the form factor on my GX1 is great, it’s just that the dynamic range lags a bit, as does the lack of some essential features like focus peaking and an integrated EVF.
I wanted to the love the E-M10 but couldn’t easily get past the user interface, so I’m very curious to see what Panasonic’s next generation offering is.
From memory, the shutter design for GM1 was what allows it to be so small, so do a camera with evf, gm1 shutter, probably without ibis, significantly smaller than gx7 but with evf, maybe smaller than A6000.
Or GX8 with DFD.
FT5: A new Micro Four Thirds camera.
FT5: A fixed lens Four Thirds sensor compact camera.
Those could fit the bill
No GX8. GM2 and LX7 successor (not called LX8).
If all of this gets announced (okay, the 4K firmware upgrade seems like a pipe dream, so if everything ELSE gets announced) it will be an immensely satisfying Photokina!
But since all of the lenses have been informally announced or widely leaked, I hope that they’re shipping in 2014.
And that Panny camera lineup! Wow! Hey Olympus! How’s that Trip D and Pen rethink going? See Panny? See Fuji? See Sony? Stop looking at Canon! Look at Panny, Fuji and Sony. Be like them. Innovate. No, orange and silver editions don’t count.
So you want Olympus to be like Fuji, Panny and Sony….you’re saying you’re missing innovation. But what exactly are you saying there? I don’t see it that way…sensor tech hasn’t improved in the last 2 years, and that’s the biggest problem for Olympys right now. The E-M1 and E-M10 are for me(except for they video qualities, that’s where Pana really is unbeatable) feature and usability wise, pretty much perfect(also because of IBIS). For those who want no EVF they bring the EPL-7.
Fuji has a bigger sensor(has advantages in terms of IQ of course), but other then that, they are still lagging slightly behind on all other things. Little bit slower operation, slightly slower autofocus, CAF is not as good…no touchscreen, things like that. Also the app’s for remote control are just not as good as Olympus’s app. Don’t get me wrong, Fuji is ever improving and maybe it’s going to be my next camera, but it’s not like Olympus is lagging behind Fuji in terms of innovation.
Then Sony…Sony isn’t innovative AT ALL in terms of camera usability. They just create great sensor’s, and build decent camera’s around them, but nothing more. Granted, A6000 and A7 are very hard to beat at that price point vs IQ, but they are i no way as polished as Oly/Pana/Fuji camera’s. Look at their smartphone app…ridiculous.
Pana is focusing on video and that’s a very smart move(great for still’s also), but for still’s they have the same problem: sensor tech. DFD is nice though, but for the rest no big improvements in the last 2 years.
I’m exaggerating, to an extent. Olympus’ OM cameras are breakthroughs. But what I’m pointing at (for this cycle and a few months around it), and what I’m seeing from these other companies is:
Fuji:
Rumored to have significant refreshes coming of X20, X100s and XPro and recently released their best camera yet, the XT1. And their lens roadmap is clearly outlined and has been shipping (more or less) on schedule. They’ve closed the gap significantly and were starting from scratch just a short time ago. And Fuji has identified a very clear brand strategy: targeting photographers who prize classic photography style and controls, premium build quality, fast primes, and who shoot stills, not video.
Panasonic:
Rumored to have several cameras representing new approaches, and like Fuji, seem to have clearly identified their key advantage: 4K. I would expect to see some form of 4K in everything that they do, going forward.
Fuji & Panasonic:
Collaborating on the organic sensor, which if real, will be a complete reset of the entire photographic industry
Sony:
They are innovating furiously: from the first full frame mirrorless aimed at the rest of us, to experimental lenses for smart phones, to the NEX turned Alpha lineup, to the RX1 and RX100 cameras, to even the RX10, it seems like Sony is not afraid to go in a thousand different directions to see what works (and has the resources to do it). They are clearly targeting Canon. If they focused the same passion on the user experience that they do for the hardware, they’d be much more interesting to me. Like you, I don’t like the way their cameras “feel.”
I suspect that we’ll see Olympus wake up and shake up the lineup down the road when they figure out what to do with the Pen series. These color option bodies are just marking time.
Thanks for the reply. I think that Olympus should focus on premium models:2 OM-D’s(1 with weather sealing and PDAF, 1 smaller model without, maybe 1 in between), 1 premium rangefinder model(with EVF), 1 very compact model without EVF(GM1 alike). High quality builds, and no crippling in terms of software.
Color options are fine by me. Old OM series looked beautiful in silver, and so does the E-M5 in silver.
In the meanwhile they should wait on new sensor tech from Sony or Pana/Fuji, and keep their customers happy in terms of firmware updates and new lenses.
Woah, I agree with some of the Fuji minuses, but how is Panasonic behind Olympus in sensor tech, if the GH4 is basically the best M43 camera you can buy right now, IQ and Video?
the only 1-up Olympus has is ibis, and if you have a stabilized lens, then ibis really doesn’t matter.
Let’s be real here, ALL of M43 has a problem. And that is the Four Thirds sensor has hit a ceiling. The 16mp sensor has reached its limit. In fact, i hope this fixed lens camera from Panasonic has a 12mp sensor. The 16mp sensor is very noisy. (Noise)
one last note… really miss a touchscreen, with Fuji’s quick menu. Plus my XE2 has all the important dials/Aperture ring. I don’t have to do any menu diving.
Admin: please tel us more about the new Panasonic m43 camera!
And Trip D
Wish Panasonic would just get on with it and announce the LX8.
Cant wait! Hope to hear GX8 specs soon, so i can decide to wait or grab GX7 for less.
Love the site, keep up the good work!
I still believe during or a bit after Photokina a new E-M5 will be announced and released.
not gonna happen… lenses have a priority
So exciting that all the lens re-re-re-announcements *sarcasm
are coming.
Maybe this time they’ll provide dates but not pricing, and tease an orange EM1 coming in 2015
Most interested in the LX8 and fixed lens compact.
Whatever happened to the fixed lens Olympus rumor? You know, the “Trip D.”
It’s still a rumor, so nothing happened.
Someone wake me when they announce the EM-5 II.
I thought that the LX8 would be already announced before Photokina and now it’s a FT2?
Give me a “chubby” GM2!!! or maybe a GM4k? —> http://bit.ly/1v7jYen
Take my money now if this is ruggedized and weather sealed and the PASM dial changes to exposure comp
Please no sigma quattro style 😀
no GF7 this year.
No G anymore.
GX7 was just released 12 monthes ago (GX1 2011, GX7 2013, new GX on 2015? but the new GX already announced at Photokina 2014? it’s too early.
GH4 was released this year.
GM1 was released 8 monthes ago.
why not a really new serie camera m43?
About the new camera fixed lens with 43 sensor, i hope the lens will have wide aperture and 35mm equivalent 24*36.
Let’s dream.
The most pop-corn’y moment of the Photokina IMO would be the announcement of the 7D2 (if any). That gotta make some waves. Ex-Canon shooters would get immediately the buyer’s remorse for migrating away. Rumors about D400 would go out of control, because Nikon always follows the lead of Canon. Ex-D300 users would start a petition demanding official confirmation of Nikon working on D400. A full meltdown of the CaNikon blogosphere is to ensue.
P.S. Or, alternatively, Canon might up the ante and NOT announce the 7D2. That would make even more waves. 😉
There will be a 7D2 for sure, and it will make waves. It doesn’t matter how it compares to Sony A77II, Pentax K-3, Fujifilm X-T1, Olympus E-M1 or Panasonic GH4, it will outsell them all anyway. The only real competition would be a Nikon D400, and if Nikon doesn’t want to lose market shares, they better have one in the works.
You bet it will outsell those toys – they all are, except for the Pentax, and photographers are not so dumb.
There are differences between forum geeks and people who go out there and exercise creativity.
Will there be a E-M1 double PRO zoom kit or even better… The “home wrecker” a fripple PRO zoom kit.
Can you imagine the prices!?
But savings would be good.