Photokina is over and I noticed one strange thing. Guess what was the most viral news here on 43rumors? Neither the LX100 or the Olympus 40-150mm lens. And nor was it a rumor. It was the news about that unique Panasonic 1 inch sensor smartphone camera! The article can be read here and a first review here. The Panasonic CM1 is listed at Panasonic Germany, Panasonic Austria, Panasonic France. and only sodl in those countries. But I am wondering 43rumors reader think this is a great product:
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Isn’t anybody going to comment? :
No.
Why?
Where have you been ?
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i found it a wow moment too…would love to have such, but i spent any money for something else now (maybe later)
Better spend the money on a proper camera rather than this , the GM1 for example .
Price for GM1 in resale market hit it’s lowest peak .
it depends imo. if you need a camera for every moment, then a cellphone suits better then any other format. And since this one uses a 1 inch sensor wih a good FL prime…its very interesting..price wise its ofcourse different
Yes I need camera for every moment but my GX7 always with me whenever I go out .
So do I still need this CM1 ?
even if you in bed or bathroom? i dont think so
Is the GM1 a proper camera? No, it’s a toy, so you can buy a phone instead.
A very nice product but to expensive!
It’s interesting that two items about the upcoming Voigtländer 10.5mm f0.95 are #3 and #4 on the list.
I have always been a big fan of the 28mm Elmarit, from the 2nd gen R to the latest ASPH. It tends to have a darker, grittier and higher contrast signature than other Leica lenses I have had experience with. While being sharp as hell. I’d say the 75mm APO Summicron ASPH has a close feel. Would be interesting to see how close to the family resemblance this one will have.
I have always been a big fan of the 28mm Elmarit, from the 2nd gen R to the ASPH. It tends to have a darker, grittier and higher contrast signature than other Leica lenses I have had experience with. While being blisteringly sharp. The 75mm APO-Summicron ASPH comes close. It would be interesting to see just how much of the Elmarit character this CM1 has.
I’m not sure if Pana is heading to a right direction with 1 inch sensor to smart phone market .
We already got Xperia & Lumia & Samsung , all done pretty well in the smart phone camera division with their loyalty customers .
So who going to buy Pana’s smart phone ? The readers here or 4/3 cameras holders or LUMIX fans ?
I love my LUMIX cameras but I still prefer to hold on my I phone .
This CM1 might have chance in Japan to success but not in south east Asia where i phone & Samsung are big big players here .
The CM1 camera would be a big step up from what is currently available.
I agree & that’s in imaging dept only .
What about Processor , applications & the rest ?
It’s hard to attract new buyers in smart phone market than camera market for Pana , I mean to hit the required target & profit .
Smartphone market flooded with variety brands & class , even myself also can’t catch up .
Of couse , the Japan no 1 company can give a try .
Nothing is impossible after all .
It’s a great phone but it’s just a little bit on the expensive side.
Also 4K at 15fps is meh, would be great it if could go 24 and 30p at that resolution.
Also some form of OIS would be nice but I guess that would add considerable bulk.
I use my smartphone for different things than photography, and actually don’t need one device for all. The Panasonic C1 will be another futile attempt to get a step into the smartphone business, which hardly can be successful. The smartphone industry is already crowded with players, which mostly understand the design of smartphones better than Panasonic.
Looking at the C1 bad camera usability and ergonomics speaks out of the device immediately. A camera is not a communication device and therefore needs to support other tasks. For casual photography the cameras in current smartphones are already good enough.
Panasonic should rather improve its m4/3 camera and lens portfolio instead of producing another dead end.
Panasonic aren’t exactly new comers in smartphone. Maybe not here in America, but they sure got a portfolio already. They are an Electronic giant after all.
Secondly, I get it that its not the tool for you. Me neither, I have no desire for that specific phone. But let it happen. Who am I to say it will never become the next big thing in photography? …I do remember saying the iPhone was dead on birth…
Lastly, Panasonic has an army on engineers, out of which only that many ressources are allocated into improving m43. They all got their speciality and they all got the experience in the projects they are respectively working on. They *are* improving their camera and lens portfolio, but it will only happen that fast…
Panasonic’s been doing phones longer than Apple has.
But Apple did it right and, typically, the rest of the industry slavishly followed.
I’m using the iPhone as a temporal point of reference, not making a rah rah fanboi statement about the quality of their phones.
Still waiting for my iPhone 6 to arrive…
Impressive product, but in the end, nobody would buy it. In my opinion, too expensive and too big for a phone.
Tell that to apple…
The iPhone 6 plus barely fits in the front pocket of a pair of Levis. For me, that is the maximum size … I’m not going to buy a new wardrobe just to be able to carry a phone 😉
Lots of Photojournalists will want them. I want one for inconspicuous shooting out on the street.
I’ve been waiting for something like this since the RX100 was released a few years back.
I absolutely love the look of it and the leather back. I would buy it in an instant if it had 4K 30fps/24fps at 50 Mbit XAVC-S or HEVC and Dual Speakers like the HTC One or the Xperia Z3.
I hope Sony will counter this with a Z3 variant and the RX100 Sensor, similar lens, hopefully a 35mm and it’s weather sealing.
Either way, I’m waiting for the reviews, If they manage to get the 4K 24fps I may go for this one anyway.
just curious, why do you want the 4k 24fps like there is no tomorrow?
I would sell my iphone if the CM1 became available in Canada.
A non-4/3 sensor was the biggest news…
can’t wait for the 10.5mm nokton
i see a lot of posts where people say, can someone recommend a smaller backup camera for a full frame, can someone recommend a smaller backup camera for my crop camera, can someone recommend a smaller backup camera for my EM1. could it be that for the most part, most people would just be better off and enjoy themselves more with a phone? seems like it. the reality is, this is where the world is heading. The modern Polaroid for the masses. Enthusiasts and professionals will want more but everyone else is trading in their systems for phones.
Did I mention I really want this phone?
I really want this phone. Please sell it in your home country, Panasonic!
If they were to make two sizes of this like Galaxy S/Note and now iPhone 6/6+ I would definitely get the bigger one without even thinking about it…..even at like $1200-1500. I have a Note 3 and can’t deal with smaller screens like this has anymore. Smartphone vendors are going to have to move to two sizes if they want my business.
Two years from now, when the iPhone 8 launches, we will still be waiting for the CM1 in the USA. Hope I’m wrong, but I doubt it.
This thing called “smartphone” has extremely unhandy and unwieldy proportions that it would take a miracle that somebody would buy it. If the Android implementation would underwhelm its clearly a no go.
Lots of high end, very thin phones, have been sold with a bulge for the camera, or other inernals at one end. They’re not unwieldy to use at all. That said, I think it would be a bad business move to try to sell this worldwide. I just don’t see a big market for it.
I voted yes because I’d love to see this available outside Japan, and I think that there may be a real market for it.
Which isn’t to say that I, myself, would buy it–it’s too unwieldy to earn a place in my pocket, and I’m invested in and happy with the iPhone ecosystem, which has a sufficiently good camera for a point-and-shoot (and exceptionally good for video). (The other thing I really appreciate about the iPhone camera is that Apple has staunchly refused to put huge megapixel numbers on the sensor, instead sticking to good, relatively large pixels.)
But I’d still like to see it on the market injecting a little variety and giving a true high-end option that isn’t just a gigantic number of megapixels.
It’s not even going on sale in Japan, it seems. Just France and Germany.
And Austria!
I think it’s a great device and deserves a wider release. I wouldn’t mind if they hadn’t gone for such premium materials in order to bring the price down. $700-800 USD is totally reasonable. Much more is pushing it, when you can get a Lumia 1020 for half that.
Overpriced gadgets have become the norm at crapasonic.
So are crappy comments from trolls. To your credit, at least you didn’t upvote your own comment. Well done.
You give me credit? I am flattered. Now try switching on the brain, it might even work. Dimwit.
You know that this is the smallest camera with a sensor anywhere near this size, at any price, right? The next closest thing is more than twice as thick! This is just as innovative as Sony managing to cram an FF sensor into the A7 series.
Sensor size does not matter, otherwise m43 would be a complete failure. Wait…