This really comes unexpected: Both new Olympus PRO lenses are listed at BHphoto without price and shipping info:
Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 7-14mm f/2.8 PRO Lens (here at BHphoto).
Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 300mm f/4 PRO Lens (here at BHphoto).
No idea yet when they will show price and take preorders. But it should be very soon…
Thanks Jonathan for finding and sharing this!
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Great news! Where’s the 40-150 2.8?
not to be able to mount filters in the 7-14 🙁
i would even pay 2000 us dollars for this lens so 200 bucks more than the rumored 1799 us dolars…just if it would have had a filter thread as it was promised me from mr. toshi terada on a omd workshop/roadway….but sadly they dont make it….would be the outstanidng feature in the competition……but they probably didt do it due to econimical reasons so they could use partially the old lens design of the 7-14 f4 ft lens……
regrettably…for me wrong decisions….esp. for landscpae photographers a huge bummer….or if not an argumetn for the omd system……
me too i totally agree would be a huge huge advantage and just THE ONE REASON for choosing the OMD System….(landscape photography among others…)…
They do waht they wanna do…..even if the made a big mistake fault…..proven wrong…
You too?
Me was promised this too from mr. terada he told me that he sees this as a huge advantages innovation in comparison to the old lens 7-14 4 ft and pana 7-14 f4 mft lens and he does landscape photography in his short leisure tiem as his favourite type of photography and missed this feature sometimes as well (nd filter, cpl)…..
But now…..sadly they didnt make it……big, big mistake….imo….hopefully they develop an special adapter attachable on the lens barrel which make the use of common screwable filters possible at least……
Please oly….
nevertheless/despite this dont think happening sadly….
a huge bummer and a big step bakcward than forward for the omd system/competition and futural surviving….
not really understandable despite economical reasons…..time was more than enough avaiable in order to create the tele 40-150 2.8 and the ultra wide angle zoom 7-14 2.8…..
multiple delayed and they needed over 2 1/2 years for jus this 2 pro lens….among the 25 & other kit lens…
in contrast to this/oly…..fuji did over 10 lens in 2 years …
sorry i missed sth….to point out to make the uww pro zoom WITH FILTER THREAD!!!
Lack of time is no valid argument……to justify their behaviour and definetely wrong decision not to implemet a filter thread!!
you missed sth…….not I …..sorry too…..;)!!
Blame and shame on me……bad typo…!
Wait, 7mm at f/2.8… would you pay for a set of 138mm (or more) filters? Neither Canon 14/2.8 nor Nikon 14-24/2.8 have filter threads either. We are talking about 114-degree angle of view, try make it not vignetting…
Fuji is a much bigger company, though…2.5x as much revenue…
If you’re really serious about landscape, by some larger square filters and just hold them in from of the element while shooting.
I swear, such whining about nothing.
If you are serious about landscape you would not be using mFT. Unless you are disabled and cannot lift a couple of KG
The Nikon 14-24 can’t take filters either. There are adapters that will mount holders with square filters.
Nonsense.
Please actually know what you’re talking about before talking.
Don’t worry, it’s “pro” LOL.
At first glance I thought it was the 40-150 2.8. I hope there is no delay in that lens as I’m ready to purchase when it’s available. Glad these are coming too, but just not in the market for these two quite yet.
I doubt they’ll be on sale this year. Olympus have pretty much said next year. Maybe they want to collect payments first, in a pseudo-kickstarter. 😛
Where is the 40-150/2.8 lens? Originally planned for late Q1 of this year and now I heard Nov. of this year. Also the price has gone up $300 if my source is right. Makes me glad I brought the Panasonic 35-100/2.8 last month. Anyhow, I will end up with both the 40-150/2.8 and the 300/4.0. Hopefully we will also get a TC for those two lenses. Now the 7-14/2.8 I might have to hold off on it. The lack of directly taking filters has turned me off of this lens.
what surprise??? they have been at B&H for weeks !
7-14mm lens I see for the first time!
Pro……..LOL. Only thing thats pro is the price.
such pro. never plebeian. best prices. olympus label. wow
A troll bot trolling a troll.
Pretty funny.
“Pro……..LOL. Only thing thats pro is the price.”
Now that is just BS it says PRO right on the “Pro” lenses so it is obviously Pro
You’re Paying $500.00 just for that “PRO” Screenprint.
Better that than paying with spewed bile everydat like you do here.
LOL
I quite enjoy using the Panasonic 7-14mm f/4… But sometimes its just not bright enough for indoor. Maybe I should go with the Olympus 7-14mm f/2.8. Hopefully its not crazy expensive 🙂
The other surprise…..the price.
Great news for the pros that jump to M4/3, and they are on my plans, but I’m more in a hurry for the 40-150 2.8. By the way some of you talk about prices. Any idea about the estimated price of 40-150 2.8? Thanks
Hopefully competitive with Panny’s 35-100, though the extra range will likely make it more expensive. Hoping for no more than $1,500.
lol yes those half dozen “pros” that have jumped to mFT will be delighted
I’m in the waiting bandwagon for the 40-150mm 2.8 – just waiting for the release to go to USA and buy one. But these lack of news about it gave me a bad feeling.
The 300mm has been listed for at least 3 months. Just placeholders I suspect, still months away and I believe the 40-150 is first to come (it’s the only one in the E-M1 brochure)
But no 40-150/2.8 rumored much earlier… What’s up with THAT?
The real specs is 80-300/5.6. Everything else is marketing lies. If you understand photographic concepts this is obvious.
I don’t care about razor thin DOF. All I care is brightness and speed. There’s more to life than DOF you know. So yeah, 40-150 mm suites me just fine.
Well said. Sometimes ultra thin DOF is cool, but for, I guess, the majority of photographers, having the ability to shoot at fast apertures using low ISO’s and still having a reasonable amount of DOF is more desirable. I know it is for me 97% of the time.
…and that can be done with larger sensors, for no penalty at all. Basic physics.
And a lightweight 80-300mm f5.6 lens with superb resolution and rendering is okay by me. And by most photographers.
The best 50mm lens in the world is “only” an f/2, don’t you know?
Really? Which one is it? Do you own it?
According to LensRental’s super elaborate testing rig, it’s the Leica APO 50/2 Summicron. And no, I don’t own one. It’s worth 4 times as much as all my photo gear put together.
They are redoing the tests at lens rentals after screwing up on the tests
The Leica 50mm, have a look at the lens rentals blog. Does he have to own it? Most motoring magazines reckon the best all-round sports car in the world is the Porsche 911 it being voted Car of the Year on a regular basis, do I have to own it to mention that?
Not by me tho, not at the price… 300 bux would be OK, and forget about the “superb”, it’s only bait for amateurs with disposable income.
You know that a Nikon FX AF-S 80-400 f4.5-5.6 VR costs $2700 and weighs 3.5 lbs, right? So that’s $1000 for half a stop of speed on the short end, and 100mm extra focal length on the long end, but they throw in the extra 2 lbs of weight for free…
And that even the plastic consumer FX 70-300 4.5-5.6 VR weighs 1.6 lbs and costs $600?
How’s that for equivalence…
The “plastic consumer” 70-300 pukes on this thing, you can bet. But don’t let me talk too much: try for yourself. Talk is cheap.
Meh. Look at Photozone.de samples of the 70-300 vs. the Panasonic 35-100 (since the 40-150 2.8 isn’t available yet). Both are on old generation sensors (D3x and GX1), and I think you’ll find they’re awfully comparable…
As you say, talk IS cheap.
This guy also seems to think the old Zuiko 50-200 2.8-3.5 on the E-M1 is sharper than his ($1800) Canon 100-400L. The sample shots certainly make it a believable claim…
At this level, you’re really splitting hairs. Nothing “pukes on” anything else. You’re chasing after microns, or at least pixels…
http://smithclicks.com/hardware/olympus-50-2002-8-3-5-swd-review-with-the-e-m1/olympus-50-2002-8-3-5-swd-review-with-the-e-m1-2/olympus-50-2002-8-3-5-swd-review-with-the-e-m1-3/
No, the real specs are a 40-150mm f2.8. The specs you are talking about are if they were converted to full frame specs. Why would we do that?
Absolutly retarded
pot kettle seriously , an honest question why is always the Olympus fans/nuts that think physics does not apply to them ?
Isn’t the real question why people feel the need to comment on a rumor site about a camera system they don’t like or own and therefore has zero relevance to them?
No, Bob has a Valid Question. And instead if even attempting to answer it, you reply with another question.
More like none of us give a damn about the FF crusaders? m43 now has better IQ than the best FF of not even ten years ago, but the photos from those older cameras are just as enjoyable now as they were then…
Who told you? An old 5D still pukes on any m43 toy, even if it has “pro” written on. Just to set things straight.
Really? Let’s see what DxO has to say…
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Canon/EOS-5D
vs
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Olympus/OM-D-E-M5
So the E-M5 has the same overall ranking – it has better color depth and dynamic range than the 5D, and loses out only in high ISO – but not even by a whole stop.
You were saying…?
dxo is crap, it is designed to bait pillocks (like you) into buying inferior products for higher prices (like m43).
Run your own tests (I did) and you will see, or just stay uneducated and throw your money down the drain, the choice is yours.
oh no – someone on the internet called me a name. 🙁
I used a 5D for several years – it barely keeps up with the EM5. In fact, your whole argument is trash – loads of world-famous photos were made with cameras even less capable than these. It’s risible to call m43 a toy when its output is vastly better than virtually every non-medium-format camera of 10 or more years ago.
You’re the pillock here, pal.
Please share your equivalence definition first. If it’s for total light gathered compared to FF and DOF, don’t forget to increase ISO by a factor of 4 on FF. What does a hand-hold light meter give you for a given ISO and shutter speed?
You assume that you need to shoot at the same DOF ? you also assume that you need to increase ISO to match shutter speed for most situations that is not going to be necessary . For the two lenses this article is about a 7-14mm/14-28mm equiv DOF will never be an issue, for the 300mm F4 at typical shooting distances there is enough DOF for the subject
As for the old light meter chestnut , the end image is what counts. Now again a nice simple question , do you think an image taken on a Panasonic ZX200 at 600mm { equiv AOV} at F2.8 set on the camera is the same as you would get with a the £6000 Olympus FT 300mm F2.8? If not why is it not we all know the answer
I don’t assume anything.It’s Yabokkie saying its a 80-300/5.6. And then he probably refers to T. Northrups video who equalises total light, AOV and DOF. But this means ISO, too, needs to be increased for the same picture (unless you have the freedom of using a tripod, or non-moving subjects, or a group of people where DOF is given). FF has more options, that’s why I still use it, but there are benefits to m43 (compare the 300/4 with an equivalent 600mmm lens on FF or do macro work).
The light meter thing isn’t about getting the same image. Using m43 I know that I have drawbacks and choosing m43 I’m willing to accept those. Silly fight of FF vs. m43.
They don’t. Maybe this will keep Olympus afloat for an extra month.
Oh no – 43rumors comment section has been infected by yabokkie’s raving lunacy! Quick, plug your ears before he makes you all insaaaaaaAaaAane…
Oh FFS this tosspot is here as well?
Olympus, why are you doing this? Why are you delaying the launch of your full frame system? You should listen to photographers, not morons! STOP THE MADNESS!!!
??
If Oly came out with a full frame- I think I’d ditch Sony. I’m that confident in their ability to build cameras. But, alas- it aint going to happen. They’re stuck in Mini Micro land for ever. That’s not a bad thing….but the idea of a monster Olympus A7R competitor and Zuiko lenses is- well, it’s Epic.
I am hoping for an Olympus MF system. FF cameras are just not BIG enough.
Designing lenses for a much smaller , 4×3 ratio sensor is a far easier job than for a near 4x larger 3×2 ratio sensor. Take even the worst lens you can think of Sony does a few for its Nex system lol then crop the image to 4×3 and see just how much better every lens looks
Are you a lens designer? No? Then why should we listen to anything you have to say on the subject?
Most full frame lenses don’t have nearly the resolution per area as smaller lenses. Easy way to show it is just to mount them on an APS-C or M4/3 camera with equivalent pixel pitch and compare the 100% crop. Full frame cameras just require the sensor area to achieve their better resolution…if anything smaller lenses are harder to make truly good as a result.
Who told you? This is the typical gutter nonsense you find in the internet, with no bearing in real life, it goes without saying.
Can’t agree. From what I’ve read it’s quite difficult to make small optics with high resolution, sharpness, etc. Olympus isn’t new to making full frame lenses either. What I’m saying is that, consumers shouldn’t push Olympus into a corner and insinuate that they can’t do full frame. They just need to find a competitive angle in the market.
No. Typical internet bs. People, stop believing in whatever you read and slamming it on the others.
300m f4.0 – awesome!
This thread may be short -33 comments before my own piece of BS- but it’s sure a beauty!
Most trolls per thread length EVER!
Paid FF trolls, equivalence idiots, nonsensical google-translates, all here.
This will be hard to match.
Although, I have high hopes for the price announcement of the 300/4. It will blow people’s minds that you cannot make an exotic telephoto for the same price as a consumer zoom with 300 mm max focal length. This is going to be troll fest.
We may well be looking at the two lenses that will doom Olympus to sell off the division or worse…
The Price, Focal length and Mount is going to hurt them. Reason being, only a Handful of M43 users will buy them. These two lenses are stockroom stuffers.
Loser.
People have been predicting the demise of Olympus for years, and years, and years. These lenses will sell just fine.
Sure they will….
But we all know these lenses will share the same shelves as it’s Four Thirds brethren. Too expensive for what it is.
M43 should be a small compact system, with small lenses, unless you’re shooting video, and Panasonic already has that covered. I see VERY few Photogs buying these two lenses.
Hi, MrALLCAPS! I’ve missed you. I haven’t been reading the comments much lately, but I think you’ve been away, too, no? Glad to have you back, keeping us from getting all too parochial.
I remember, way back when, when digital SLRs were new, looking at the Pentax 40/2.8 pancake and going, who in the world would pay good money to buy that? I mean, it’s cute and all, but at that crop factor? It’s not even macro? And when the E-PM1 came out, that’s, like, not even a toy, is it? What does it do, I mean, really? Toys are at least fun! And cheap! This thing… it costs real money!
The magic is in actually using them. Try them. Feel how they feel. Sometimes, something just clicks. It’s not about the performance or IQ or whatever. Sometimes it just feels right. Try holding an M3/Summicron combo in your hand; you may forget that film is dying and that M lenses are ridiculously expensive. Look through a 300/2.8 lens, any brand, for any mount, and you may forget that you cannot possibly carry that thing around for more than a few minutes. Hold an E-M1 with the 75/1.8 mounted on it, and you may feel like you can do anything, in any light, in any situation.
Or not.
If not, you put it down and walk away. That’s what happened when I tried the NEX-7; it just didn’t work for me. Now, be careful, because you just might fall in love. That’s what happened to me with that “toy” E-PM1.
Welcome back! In case you missed something: Admin abandoned his site, not caring about silly and sometimes disturbing trolls, trolls roam this site happily, calling people fanboys because they’re not interested in a product, or because they are interested in it. Our friend ‘caps is always on his crusade against, in order: olympus fanboys, olympus, fanboys, happy m43users. And we all hope he will find some peace when he’ll receive his long awaited Fuji.
A couple of posts ago I managed to have a helpful discussion, with hints and suggestions, with some people here on this forum, and I was so naive to think that things had changed, but I was wrong. So welcome back JShin 😉
Learn English. Learn the basics of a job. Get a hobby, perhaps photography. Then you talk.
If you say so… Lots of “pros” using that weakling system, well not really…
So you keep saying. No-ones sure why you feel you have to keep saying it though. Once or twice fine, but continuously? What is it that you’re trying to achieve? Is this the right place to achieve it?
Regardless, let’s take a look at your points:
*The price – no-one knows what that is yet. But I don’t think they will be a budget lenses, but I’m OK with that.
*The focal length – I think is great, 300mm, I’m up for that. 7-14mm, I’m up for that as well. I’d also spring for a premium 150mm f1.8 as well.
*The mount – well, I’m happy that it’s m43, means I can put them onto my m43 cameras. Even you’d have to admit that’s pretty convenient.
*Handful of buyers – How many’s a handful? How many’s a handful? I don’t believe they will sell as well as say the 17mm f1.8, or the fantastic 45mm f1.8, but a handful, seriously?
– Colin
These look like two incredible lenses for the MFT system…making the whole system more and more credible. They will both be too expensive for my MFT system , which I use as a complement to my FF system. I can see those photographers that have adopted MFT as their main system purchasing these lenses, though…no doubt!!
I think the 7-14 will be on my list, the 300mm f4 is not for my kind of work… But the 40-150 is 🙂
All the nuts here claiming it is an 80-300 f5.6 there are so many flaws to that argument it is actually moronic.
To use that mythical 80-300 f5.6 you need a FF body, the cheapest of which are around $1500… Well that is already a damn site more than the $799 for the EM5 or the $500 for the EPL5…
But lets go further, the 5.6 lens mounted on the entry FF camera will suffer greatly with AF problems as the light dims as AF is more about light intensity than light gathered.
By mounting a f5.6 lens on a FF body you get NOTHING in terms of a DoF advantage on a m43rds sensor size… Nothing.
By mounitng a f5.6 lens on a FF body you get NOTHING in terms of an IQ advantage, in fact your DR, Colour and Noise will all perform worse than the m43rd sensor.
So, what is the reality, if you buy a high quality f4-5.6 lens for a Canon 5Dm3 as an example. BH photo lists it at $1599 for the lens plus $3399 for the body… For a total cost of $5000.
While you can buy the EM5 for $799 plus the 40-150 for (guess) $1799 for a total of $2600.
What has the extra $2400 bought you from the Canon? Slightly more DoF at the wide end and the same performance at the long end.
What can you buy for the Extra $2400 from m43rds? (all prices current from BH photo)
A 17mm f1.8: $499
A 25mm f1.8: $399
A 12-40 f2.8: $899
A 100-300 f4-5.6: $597
So you have a full suite of lenses from 24mm to 600mm-e fast primes and fast zooms etc… And lets remind us of what the advantage of the Canon choice was? 1 top more DoF and Noise control at the wide end. Money well spent.
These FF fanatics just dont get it, many here welcome the size and cost savings in echange for 1 stop at the wide end.
Get over it.
You’re funny, yet Fanatic..
“But lets go further, the 5.6 lens mounted on the entry FF camera will suffer greatly with AF problems as the light dims as AF is more about light intensity than light gathered.”
The Canon 6D has better low light performance than most cameras out there. It can focus at night BETTER than ANY M43 camera ever made!
Image Quality?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! FF BLOWS M43 cameras away!! ESPECIALLY at night!!
Stop… just Stop.
M43 can’t compete with FF when it comes to IQ. The entry level 6D beats all M43 cameras in IQ. I think you don’t get it. In fact, if you’re adding up price, for what it’s worth compared to image quality, FF is a better choice. Hate sounding like a broken record, but M43 is too expensive for what it is.
Full Frame IS better.
LOL, your ignorance is astonishing… but then you are a shill, that much is clear (or deranged for spending so much time here).
Full fram is in fact WORSE with a lens that is 2 stops slower. DXO mark bears this out. SCIENCE bears this out. YOU are nothing but a LIAR.
The 6D with an F5.6 lens would underperform a GH4, or EM1 (same pricepoint) with an F2,8 lens. Recent testers have shown this to be true… want a reference:
http://youtu.be/up8K_xd_iwU
His words and my experience are worth a damn site more than your shilling FF systems. I swear you would think the m43rds consortium forced their balls into your mouth against your will 🙂
Maybe for you.
Of course FF has better high ISO performance. But sometimes it does’t matter. I shot receptions some time ago. I have D610 and had an EM5 at that time. This is a situation where you can’t go with 1.8 on FF most often, so I used 2-2.8 on m43 or 4-5.6 on FF to have two to three people in focus. For Iso 800 on the EM5 I needed an ISO of 3200 on FF. Now look at S/N ratio on DXOMARK for Em5 and 6D for this two different ISO settings, EM5 is pretty much on par here. This doesn’t mean we don’t have other advantages with FF. If I’m allowed to decrease DOF then of course the larger sensor shows its advantage.
That’s may be truth, if you compare 16MP vs 16 MPix (E-M1 vs D4).
But it’s not necessary to compare FT and FF with an equivalent lens anymore, because FF offers Sensors with higher MPix Counts that offers more Details with same filed of view.
I guess with a D800E and a Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/4G ED VR
you will get more Details (at least at High-ISO-settings) compared with E-M1 and same field of view and same depth of field.
Right, I agree that with downsampling a 36MP file you will buy back noise and detail. However there are only 2 FF bodies with that MP count. a 24MP file doesnt offer the same latitude for the same framing as the files are not significantly larger.
So while there may be some exceptions to the rule, the rule stands. The advantage of FF is the greater amount of light captured ONLY if you use a larger aperture.
One cant suggest any advantage by using an aperture of the same size.
Sure, more megapixels help, but the quality edge of a larger sensor goes way beyond that. There is no kidding ourselves (or trying to lie us into buying stuff).
Relax, we are merely trying to educate and amuse. You are obviously too stupid to be educated, but someone else might still be recoverable.
Well hopefully you are amused, and maybe one day you will learn.
coz you know…
Really? They’ve been listed on B&H’s website almost since the day Olympus announced them, for months at this point. I am surprised they’ve not removed them. It’s painfully obvious B&H added them way, way, WAY too early.
I am assuming pre-order soon, but availability in 3-6 months.
Bad assumption. We’ll be lucky if they’re available mid-2015, and more like closer to the end of 2015. These hit B&H’s website almost the minute Olympus announced they were going to be available in 2015, which was just crazy.
No idea why they have not taken them down, but there’s no way these lenses will be available for sale during 2014. Olympus delayed the 40-150mm f2.8 from what was supposed to be April until this Fall.
Interesting that the FF users or actually the FF wannabes are so insecure that they have to come here and bash u4/3 and especially Olympus. Do you feel so threatened by u4/3 or ar you just morons trying to grow a bigger e-penis?
I see it as a “dirty” way to gather people visiting the page. In a few hours admin will post some ebay or amazon link and perhaps someone will jump there from here and buy something. The most important thing is to ignore everything except the title of the post. Everything else is a boring deja vu..
Maybe. I find it much more annoying here than on other sites.
LOL. I dind’t abandon. Trolls are present on all sites. They come and go. The trick is to just ignore the comments or vote them down.
If I would have to work to keep away trolls I would have to work 24 hours per day 🙁
Thanks, Admin, for removing the nonsense.
I understand that you also have a life to live, fortunately! 🙂 but I also remember that someone suggested you, some times ago, how to block people ruining your site. One thing is to be annoyed by someone seeking their 15 mi utes of online fame, another thing is to see a forum filled with useless comments. At that point, those interested in leaving a good or cunstructive comment will think twice before express themselves.
This was a useless comment. Please keep our forum clean.
I really want that 300/4….
One of the stupidest products, filled up with some of the stupidest comments… go ahead, i am aklready laughing.
Learn English. Learn the basics of a job. Get a hobzby, perhaps photography. Then you talk.