Th picture on top shows a “portion” of the upcoming Fuji mirrorless. It’s not a Micro Four Thirds camera but I hope the new Olympus will look at least as sexy as that one. The Fuji is going to be announced soon and you should follow my other website MirrorlessRumors.com (Click here). I will post there everything I can find about the Fuji. Damn does it look nice.
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That’s a Pen F ripoff if there ever was one.
…and since the image was changed my comment doesn’t apply anymore.
Eh?
The pen is an SLR, it does not have a viewfinder window.
Other than that the styling is so dramatically different that these are the two most unlikely cameras to be compared.
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My comment also applies to the mockup render on flickr – totally different cameras.
Did you up the wrong picture??? Because we’ve already seen this mock-up …
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonkerburger/6405657871/
This is the new leak from today:
http://photorumors.com/2012/01/03/fujis-upcoming-mirrorless-camera-will-be-black/
Yes. Corrected the link now!
Phew, i was worried there 😉
This is gonna be awesome. If the finder is good, and the lenses are something special, this might be it !
the mockup at flickr looks amazingly similar to this leak now.
True. The only things that seems to have been changed is the AF assist / self timer led on the right hand side of the mockup, and some leatherette detail.
If what we are seeing is the real thing then the flickr image probably originated from Fuji. Maybe they posted it on the web to see how people respond to it.
Personally I do not this camera appealing at all. I did not like the X100 and X10 either, so I am on the minority here.
Frederic
+1 I guess .I have bought the X10 3 months ago and it is without a doubt the most poorly designed user interface of any digital cameras
so no matter how the new camera may look like and be priced at , I know it is not a system I can rely on for my work
Harold
Steady there, big fella… so it’s covered with leather-textured stuff, it’s got a couple of lumps to serve as finger grips, and it has an optical viewfinder on the left end… presumably a zoom finder, which means no neato hybrid finder as on the X-100, but rather something more like the X-10’s finder. Interesting, but not all THAT exciting…
The look is along the vein of X100 X10…the sensor is the BIG thing to look out for.
This mount looks a lot like micro four thirds though..
Same thing crossed my mind actually. The mount and sensor don’t look that big when you size it up in relation to the viewfinder. Might be perspective of the picture though.
As to style, I hope that Olympus and Panasonic don’t follow this too obvious retro styling. Make products with trendsetting designs, please.
How can you not like Fuji, they are doing everything right here. They are making products that Olympus and panasonc is not able to or not willing to do, that is a evf build in a range finder body, and a aps-c sensor. Somebody is paying attention to 43rumors.com.
Fuji just has more love.
I suppose even if Olympus gets it right there is always people saying this and that.
People saying this and that because they need reasons, otherwise they have better way to spend their $800.
missing a little detail.. lenses. will Fuji build an new line of lenses or will use the Nikon Dx line??? the Olympus idea of interchangeable viewfindes/moduls ar by far better
They are going to have their own lenses, that’s what I heard. NIKON f mount as standard would be too big. and of course you can always use an adapter, since many of us have bagfull of Nikkor glasses.
+1 to Al
but the price won´t be so sexy haha
I wonder about the selection of lenses. Once they have a few fast lenses I’m in!
I think it will be released with 3 fast lenses (normal at f/1.4) if I remember correctly…a normal, wide and a short tele/portrait lens….all supposed to be on the fast side…not like the f6.3 that Oly just released!!!!! 🙂
I think I read something about a 18mm f2.0, 35mm f1.4 and a 60mm Macro. Assuming the sensor is 1.5 crop it would be the equivalent of the classic 28, 50 and 90.
There is also talk of a zoom, I wonder how that would work with an OVF. Maybe with zooms and adapted lenses the camera will switch to EVF?
Wonder if the 60mm macro would be also have a fast aperture, like f2? That way it could double as a portrait lens.
🙂 a “little” disappointing, Oly E-P3 looks way better than this piece of plastic.
Rutrem you are totally wrong. The Fuji is wearing a full-metal jacket underneath! 🙂 The E-P3 will have to run and hide from the Fuji, I am afraid.
http://photorumors.com/2011/11/15/fuji-mirrorless-camera-leaked
I am sure the Fuji will have its quirks tho. It would have to develop into a substantial system for me to be interested..and remain VERY small.
i dont know, they starting from point blank like Nikon with 1 camera. No lenses, no legacy lenses, Fuji dSLR line is way back (and was useing Nikkor lenses , am i wrong?).
if this camera was an m4/3 this would be ok, becouse of the lens park, but an APS-c sensor with a new mount???
Looks like APS-C sensor, Fuji dedicated (but small) lenses. Think they are going after Leica here. I do not expect the camera to be cheap, or the lenses (Fuji makes great lenses!). I think the whole set up will be MUCH bigger than MFT…but it should have nice increase in image quality from MFT!.
For now ….I am keeping my GX1…but I am interested to see how this develops….Looks VERY interesting!
I heard the body only will be around $1,500. I have little doubt this will be an awesome camera for those with the money.
You are correct. Fuji isn’t gunning for the peasantry (micro four turds) user, but the godlike elite who buy Leicas and are currently frustrated with the lack of availability of M9s and M9Ps as well as Leica lenses. The VF is Hybrid from my understanding and it will be released with 3 lenses much like the Contax G1 when it was released. The system will be a hit and nearly as scarce as unobtanium for at least a year.
Expect a body to be $2000 and a kit with a normal lens to be around $2500
LOL!…”the godlike elite who buy Leicas”…Puuuuuuuuuuuulease…MOST of those guys have money but they couldn’t take a picture to save their lives! That has been my experience in life. REPEATEDLY. Tech nerds with money. A good photographer will take a great picture with whatever he has. Its nice to have good or great equipment…but it certainly isn’t necessary.
(that all being said…I am still keeping my eye on the new Fuji development-LOL!_ …but certainly not in ANY hurry to jump in).
Having too much fun with my FF DSLR and my new GX1. Great cameras.
only fools use toys like a GX1 enjoy pretending at photography with that! You should have just saved cash and gotten a Holga lens for your FF DSLR, get about the same results as Micro Four turds!
Camerageek…..I think perhaps you should change your name to cameraidiot?
Your attempt at a feeble insult only humors me peasant bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Wireless flash control, in-body image stabilization, 12mm f2.0, 45mm f1.8, 20mm f1.7, availability and full usefulness of 14-35 f2.0 and 35-100 f2.0, external electronic viewfinder, FL-36R and FL-50R compatibility for strobists. No, the Fuji is the one with the hill to climb. Sensor performance is great, but the reason I have been harping on Olympus isn’t that it’s a weak product, it’s that the sensor is a weakness in an otherwise professionally useful camera system when compared to SLR systems like Nikon’s.
I would never say that Olympus should watch out for Fuji unless Fuji can give that level of system flexibility within the next few years- and time has shown that they lack the commitment to do so.
Neato Gee-Whiz viewfinders aside, the purpose of a camera is to take pictures and stay out of your way. Compactness helps with item 2, but Olympus has been frustratingly unable to get item 1 handled in a competitive fashion. The color depth is fine, but dynamic range is problematic and noise is a definite minus. If those things were compensated for by just one stop of brightness in all of their lenses, it would be a non-issue.
Fuji’s ideas here are intriguing, and certainly in my opinion just the thing to provoke Olympus into something truly special or quitting, but I believe the hill is uphill for Fuji when compared with Micro Four Thirds for the interested amateur and semi-pro. Of course, it always is for the new guy. If Fuji can do what Sony has currently failed to do, that is, provide a wide variety of compact but fast lenses, they’ll be a force to be reckoned with in the MILC market.
I would love to see Panasonic include wireless flash control….but I do not see them stepping up to that level above an “enthusiast” level. Yes…Oly REALLY needs that sensor revamp. Well said Nathan.
The previously leaked photos of one orf the new Fuji LX’s under construction show a full magnesium alloy body. Certainly not a hunk of plastic. Love how you micro four turds fan boys slam with out any real knowledge
yo ..Geek…MFT are great cameras too. Its all good. Retrum is a retread…but don’t put us all in a basket…many MFT owners are watching the new Fuji release with a lot of excitement. (I am)
+10
@Geek…
Blurry pix with no specs give next to zero info. So, to slam without knowledge can be pretty irritating. But what about the flip side and those who genuflect and pronounce the second camera coming with an equal lack knowledge? Equally annoying.
I think some of these “leaks” are simply seeded by the companies to see what sort of interest is generated.
Are you accusing Fuji of leaking a Vaselined, techporn tease!?!?!?!?!? LOL!
Oh, yes! Think Garbo or Jean Harlowe!
Is that retro enough? 😉
lol! don’t you remember the pre-release web page for the X100 or for that matter the X10. Oh and Marlene Deitrich all the way
I find you mildly amusing peasant. You may carry my piss bucket while I shoot. If a bit splashes on you consider it my great god like skill rubbing off on you
They should. The leaked specs on the Wells Fargo site dated for Jan 10th shows what we want, 16mp EXR APS-C sensor and three fast primes with a hybrid VF. This is a Leica Killer and probably will further marginalize micro four turds even further
Magnesium is so last year, not the best material for a camera body for a whole lot of reasons. A cast Ti with carbon fiber spans is much better.
Campy or Shimano gruppo? 😉
Not sure…but I think it will have an FSA carbon-fiber crank?!?!?!
I’m an XTR kind of a guy and LOVE my Time ATACs!
no..no..no..Triple Ti Egg Beaters on your FSA crank…..and LOTS and LOTS of mud and roots!!!! LOL! Do it in the woods.
Fuji L1? 😀 Looks slightly bit like that.. or Leica.
I wonder about few things..
1) sensor
2) AF and mostly manual focus helps
3) sensor-flange distance (should be pretty short)
Tho still probably APS-C .. small small, I want FF.
I just hope that their focusing is much better than the crappy speed and accuracy that they have in the current X100 and X10. It need to be more like the GX1!!! Only then would it be worthy.
GX1 focus fast.
I just hope the lenses have a usable Manual Focus ring (that stops at minimum and infinity), which activates like with the Olympus 12/2, and is usable with some kind of aid through the VF or LCD (focus-peeking). Because it obviously doesn’t have a true rangefinder built in. But hey i don’t ask much.
It does not look like a micro four turd camera..
correct, not a m4/3 camera for sure
hmm Deja Vu.
You keep changing your name to say micro four turd. Idiot.
Dononino, you’re nothing but a trd yourself, go find yourself a life you pityful troll
You owe me $1 for using my trademarked Micro Four Turds slam! 😉
Bring on the PEN Pro!
Are you saying Pen Pro is “DOA”? You might have a point.
Apples / Oranges.
🙂
I want to see a leak of the lenses
That already happened a few months back.
And this will be better than a FF cam? It look like and APS-c sensor at best. So I wonder: which FF sensor are they refering to? I am not impressed at all just because it looks nice.
While the uji X100 can shoot lovely pics it is known for some less well rounded handling stuff also. Good looks does not equal a good camera. Wait and see.
I hope it’s a good system! Always forces everyone else to step up their game.
The only improvement Fuji should do is the design of their camera . Make it in sexy senses to stay competitive , not in retro way .
Dear Admin,
My question are:
– how can you find something sexy from a photograph taken to show its longest dimension, but only about 7mm are in focus and shows so little of the entire body?
– how can you find something with a wrinkled skin sexy? wouldn’t you prefer a smooth skin body?
Sorry I couldn´t resist
Regards
I’m confused – a shallow dof shot of a lens mount and Admin is gushing about how *sexy* the camera is?
It’s “rangefinder style” and has a viewfinder. What more could you want ? In absence of a spec sheet, fill in everything else with whatever you want. It has a medium format sensor, and an 80mm f/1.4 pancake prime. It goes up to ISO 6553600 (but truth be told, it’s best to keep to 1638400 or less). It has a burst rate of 30FPS, and a screen that can tilt or swivel or bend or detach and communicate wirelessly with the body. The autofocus system reads your intentions and figures out what you want to focus on faster than you do. It has dedicated dials for shutter speed, aperture, ISO, color temperature, and art filter (which includes an “auto” setting where the camera deduces the art filter based on the scene and a more useful “none” setting) And to top it off, it looks really cool, like those Diana Lomography cameras.
Gee, I love magic tricks, too! 😉 Very funny!
And like Alyson said, let’s hope it’s really good and forces everyone else to scramble a bit, push the envelope and bring out better cameras and lenses!
Meh, I’m sure the jpegs will suck though…
who shoots jpegs with an incredible camera? LOL! 🙂
Looks really good!
Looks like gloriouss panasonic sensor inside
This and the nex7 will hopefully be fire under the butts of Olympus and Panasonic.
I honestly can’t understand this enthusiasm for retro-designs! In my humble opinion, adopting such kind of camera designs is even a sign of a complete lack of creativity/imagination. The manufacturers don’t want to spend money on a design division, so they use designs which proved themselves in the past and feed the nostalgia. Hey, we live in the 21st century! We need new designs and not designs from the past!!! I’m not an Apple fanboy (I even don’t own any Apple product at all), but that’s something Apple resp. Jobs had understood. We need fresh designs and NOT cameras looking like reminiscences from the past. That’s not a matter of taste, but a matter of evolution!
you’re just wrong my friend.. it’s just matter of taste and design.. and retro design was really better made.. and seems to be the right one when comes about cameras, 4/3 or medium format. if you don’t like go and take some gh2 ..are plenty of them ( new and revolutionary design cameras) .. one more thing look at M9 ..
Oh get a grip. The camera manufacturers love to appeal to emotion just to get you suckers to just buy the camera. And yeah, most people just eat bait and get snickered.
“I honestly can’t understand this enthusiasm for retro-designs!”
+1
Me neither. Something to do with age, I suppose…
I prefer retro designs, because they look old and ugly, therefore there is much less chance that someone steals my camera 😀
Since you’re an accomplished designer and engineer, please enlighten us with your wisdom, what sort of radical new form factor would you ¨invent¨ ? remember, it can’t resemble any existing design in the slightest!
Ok, let’s go by features and characteristic:
– it needs an evf, can’t go left or it’ll be retro, can’t go center or it’ll be DSLR (SLR design is also retro btw. you’re left with a right side aligned evf…pretty stupid and cumbersome.
– Grip: Can’t be flat or protruding (again SLR or RF) or even detachable and customisable (E-p3 already did this and the trolls don’t even mention it)
– Screen: This is new to digital, but you’ll always have a rectangular screen. you could make it round but again that’ll be stupid. detachable could be nice but has been thought of before (look at ebay)
– Mount alignment: you could go center algined like M43 or Left sided like Nex. No other side you can move it unless you forsake grip or consider other sides ( again, this is just stupid)
Mirror Box/SLR Hump: There’s no mirror in mirroless so why would you need it? EVF can be easily accommodated elsewhere, it actually makes more sense to get it out of the way of the screen. Before liveview screens didn’t exist or were a pretty secondary feature so stomping your nose to the back of your DSLR didn’t matter, that has changed now, you can compose through a screen (even tilt and swivel to accommodate) and your nose will leave grease on the screen, so chaging the evf either side doesn’t mean they’re making it rangefinder-ish or retro.
So what are you left with ? pretty much every mirrorless to date. Stop whining about this so called retro fad, it doesn’t exist. Design responds to today’s technology and market demanded features. The fact that pens look retro has nothing to do with fashion, it means that its form factor responds well to the necessities of photography, and those necesities haven’t changed that much.
When people say retro, they sound like a bunch of ignorant newbies. It’s as if DSLR form factor wasn’t contemporary to rangefinders. You’ll never find a design feature that hasn’t been done before, that’s the thing with design. You can re-interpret a design (like Oly did with PENS) but never invent it out of thin air.
+1
I do not like digital cameras masquerading as something they are not.
I find two control dials more convenient than an aperture ring and shutter speed dial because they are flexibly assigned and positioned next to your fingers. I like a large articulated LCD. I like a grip and a rubber coated body. I like clever use of polymers (Oly HG polycarbonate lenses are a fantastic example – very durable and light).
Cameras have evolved, and in a good way. The best of them have a form that really follows their function. A camera design should not be a fashion statement.
all that said, I have seen much prettier rangefinders (Pen EE.D, Canonet etc, and of course the modern Leica m).
+1
You could call these “retro” designs or you could call them clean designs.
A camera is a dark box with a hole on the front for a lens, a shutter, and some sort of light-recording structure at the back. It has to have at least one tactile button for tripping the shutter, and all of the other controls have to be logically placed yet uncluttered.
As it turns out, most of the older cameras, the Leica M and Contax rangefinder cameras had pared down camera design to its absolute minimums and simultaneously had an attractive appearance. This minimalism is also found on things like the Apple iPad and other devices. I would not say that the Olympus E-P3 is a retro design, it’s just a clean design.
The Nikon 1 series is also non-retro and very clean, but for some reason appears ugly and featureless to me. I suppose it’s too clean and looks like a bar of soap to me.
Why a rectangular boxy camera? Because the hands are pretty good at holding onto things of that shape, and it’s roughly symmetrical. People like symmetry and like simple shapes such as triangles, squares, and rectangles, and they loathe trapezoids and rhombuses, especially the nonsymmetrical shapes. We like 90 degree corners and hate 80 degree ones. We don’t know why.
Cameras currently have become bloated, inflatable looking organically shaped plastic balloons, and since that look has been done, camera manufacturers are looking into rectangles once more.
amen!
the mount looks like m43 tho’…
if the organic sensor is as good as they claimed, m43 isn’t a bad idea at all with the lens collection we have now.
It is one .001 mm larger than m43 in both directions. Fuji had to be different. 😉
Hope it is a killer cam as Aly does to keep Panasonic and Olympus’s feet to the fire as I want my GH3 or Pen Pro to be a rock star performer.
Not so similar.
m4/3 mount’s female side has three tabs(?) of almost equal size about 1/6 of the circumference. The mount in the picture, at least the lower left (far end of the picture) seems to have smaller tab.
In addition, the lens locking pin for m4/3 is on the right side near the lens release button, while this Fuji seems to have it on the lower left side.
Also assuming more or less the same mount diameter, the sensor has to be bigger. m4/3 sensor is tiny compared to the m4/3 mount’s circle.
> […] m43 isn’t a bad idea at all with the lens collection we have now.
Fuji is predominantly lens producer (this days cine lenses mostly). It makes no sense to them to produce m43 body, because market-wise their strength is in the lenses and they want to establish their own safe market (i.e. new mount) for their own lenses.
But one can dream.
just hope they solved the WDS problem of the X10 !!!
design is cool some of us like a good chunk of metal in out hands…not some high tech plastic..ok kevlar would be ok then it can perhaps save your life as well..
go for the lytro if you want the future…
Lytro… ROTFL… Only if you want postage stamp resolution.
> some of us like a good chunk of metal in out hands
Yeah! Must be the same ones who believe that a car engine must roar and who think that the coolest motorcycle design is a chopper…
Trying to do my best but still cannot find out why this mockup is claimed to be sexy.
Another exaggeratedly retro design applied to an oversized body, that’s all.
Agree. I always believed cameras are all about taking (good) pictures, and not about looking sexy in somebodys hands. So we are witnessing kind of camera striptease right now. First we se one detail of her (cameras) body, tomorrow a bit more…
There is a name for this – cameraporn. There is a special group of users on FLICKR with that name.
Must say I feel being more and more alienated on this site, which is slowly becoming a place for camera fetischists.
Obviously time for me to move to some other place. Bye
I agree. It doesn’t look like anything I want to stick my peener into, so it’s not sexy. At best, it’s an attractive camera. Sexy is going too far.
Katy Perry is sexy, a camera can’t be.
APS-C size sensor confirmed
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=246&t=2505810&m=s&s=17&last=32982672
If someone finds a camera sexy he must find a girlfriend.
That all depends on mount diameter and flange distance…
HAHA! =)
Hahaha that was a good one !
LOL! Good one, but the real question is…
How deep is the DOF with the aperture wide open? 😉
…and remember, “F” is not for “field” or “focus”.
no micro 4/3… pfff stupid…
hey! guys (manufacturers), come on! we are the XXIst century now, no more XXth! Time for standards and interoperability have come!
+1000
Yes at APS-C not some half as point and shoot wannabe like Micro Four Turds
The Rangefinder setup has always had the problem in that there isn’t much of a grip, which led to people buying a leather case with a better grip, or buying an overexpensive grip. That’s just one downside. Throw in the fact that the “retro”ness gets really stale when the camera gets too big, simply means this is a camera that will only feel like it is made well, but I won’t dare to for the love of anything drop it on the ground like I would with a Nikon D3 or D700 or any of the cameras with an actual metal shell.
Trust the legions of suckers to claim the camera is made well, but boy, the underlying support is probably plastic.
If its a real Rangefinder with optional EVF it would be great! Else I see all my needs (camera, not lenses!) covered in mFT…
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/01/03/the-first-full-photo-of-the-fujifilm-x1/
That’s probably not a photo but a computer generated image. It has been called a mock-up, but just compare it to the teaser photo: It matches every single detail visible in the teaser perfectly. So I’m pretty certain this is a CAD model originating from within Fuji.
I have already started selling my Nikon equipments 🙂
just like many had said above,
this is just a render of the mockup made by someone of flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonkerburger/6405657871/
all the details except the little censor on the left are located in the same spots as
on the flickr mockup.
……. and the mockup was mocked up from the earlier leaked photos, so duh.
Why would it not be real seriously, you think someone will go through the trouble to fashion a 3d rendering with flaws dust and everything when it will be announced in a few days.
It matches today’s teaser photo perfectly, so it’s most likely a render of the real thing from within Fuji.
Don’t know if I believe this pic, but if the new Fuji is anything like the X100 with interchangeable lenses, may be dtiching m43. Of course the critical part will be initial offerings in lenses…
A 28, 50 and 90mm prime will be available. And they better be awesome !
The proportion looks just like the X10. If so, then “meh.”
If Fuji can answer most of the problem and deliver a great camera which is pany and oly never did ,.. It’s time for me to save some money and sale my m43 gear,.. I’m sure panny and oly wouldn”t care of losing one customer
Read it and weep micro four turdists! The great Fuji has arrived!
https://wellsfargoadvisors.mworld.com/m/m.w?lp=GetStory&id=587442481
Let’s start that funeral for Oly’s and Panny’s inferior system now.
@camerageek
The new announcements from Fuji and Canon sound a bit boring, looks like they don’t want to take photography anywhere exciting….
You find the new LORD AND MASTER OF MIRRORLESS i.e. the Fuji Pro-X1 unexciting? Are you daft?
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