The Four Thirds system offers two unique zooms with constant f/2.0 aperture. The [shoplink 25320 ebay]14-35mm[/shoplink] and the [shoplink 25119 ebay]35-100mm[/shoplink] lens. Neither Canon nor Nikon systems can offer a fast zoom like that. UPDATE: But today Sigma announced the new Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 constant aperture lens! It’s an APS-C lens and the price and mount is yet unkown. But I don’t think it will come for FT mount…
The official page can be seen and seen here at Sigma Photo website.
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Links to the two superb Zuiko f/2.0 zooms:
14-35mm f/2.0 on [shoplink 25320 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink] and via Slidoo eBay.
35-100mm f/2.0 on [shoplink 25119 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink] and via Slidoo eBay.
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Wow, that would be awesome. But something tells me it would be one giant lens…
On another site i read that its smaller than the canon 24-70 weighs less as well.
Instead of spreading rumors why not read the specs?
It’s lighter and smaller than the Canon with a filter two sizes smaller
One does NOT post specs on a rumors site. What’s wrong with you.
What system is this for?
nvm, its for APS-C cameras….. hmmmmm Micro 4/3 + speedbooster + this would be interesting lol
Speed booster can only be used with FF lens’ – not apsc
Sure it can. They only said that an EF-S mount wasn’t happening (space). But the image circle is large enough given the magnification.
The flange focal distance would be to short for a speed booster. Unfortunatly.
Looks like wide FF zoom.
The image shows it as a DC lens, which is for APS-C (and hopefully 4/3, if it turns out to be real…)
A little while ago a number of 4/3 users asked sigma for a re-release of the 50-500 for 4/3.
Sigma gave a very clear answer stating that they do not plan on releasing any 4/3 lenses, new or existing.
So no 4/3 version.
Can you blame them for not releasing new 4/3 lens’ when it is obviously being retired?
Well, they could release it for mFT 🙂
Goffen
The first $2000 mFT product.
Either that or it’ll cost $1000 and have bad optical quality.
well, its vignetting is huge – like -2 stops at each end..
18 is hardly impressing for M43 and 35 is not enough range. Give me a high-grade-ish 12-50 f2.8 and I’m sold.
18mm is a cheaper place to start (than 14mm or 12mm) because you have to worry less about distortion.
18mm with the addition of a Speed Booster will yeld your 12mm (or more accurately a 12.6mm) and with an f1.2 aperture! The only downside is you’ll lose on the long side, cause you’ll then have a 24mm… But now no one will tell you there are no fast wide to normal zooms! This will be very interesting to see…
The other downside is you would need to crop a lot, because an apsc lens on mft + speedbooster will cause serious vignetting. The end result would be a far longer than 12.6 x 2 field of view. Not that I have ever tried it, but I expect the image circle for an apsc sensor designed lens just isn’t big enough to cover mft with the speed booster’s 0.7 reduction factor.
You may be right. It remains to be tried, it might vignette.
Buuut what about the BMPC? How about a 35-75mm full frame equivalent f1.2 for it? I’m already liking it!
http://nofilmschool.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/metabones-Speed-Booster-FX-DX-e1358148929538.jpg
I can not recognize any serious vignetting there
Me neither… Oh! Ha! You’re right / I’m wrong!
‘Compatibility of Lens + SPEED BOOSTER Micro 4/3 – DX Lens: yes’
– Says the metabones speedbooster white paper on page 3.
F-Yeah!! =D
I thought so.
Using the 14-35mm f/2.0 regularly, I’d be interested in seeing a Sigma lens that can match it.
I’m surprised that it’s using a 72mm filter size when the 14-35mm uses a 77mm filter size. Of course, it’s a smaller range, but the larger maximum aperture would seem to counter that a bit.
If it’s true, Chapeau indeed.
while I can’t comment on this lens the Sigma 35mmF1.4 “art” that I got for my D800 delivers excellent results, this looks interesting and for me the range on APS with a FF equiv of 27-52mm covers a focal length range which I use quite a bit. So I can see some real potential for the APS users.I am a happy FF/mFT user so APS isn’t in my interest zone , but an F1.8 wide to standard zoom mounted on the D7100 which has a pretty excellent sensor could have real potential.
For mFT i would much rather Sigma designed a couple of lenses specifically at the size and Focal lengths that suited the system.
I’m glad that Sigma have become better. I still hear of calibration problems with their lenses, even for Nikon and Canon mounts.
I was ready to buy the 30mm f/1.4 years ago and the color cast and calibration problems stopped me. When they made the second generation, they didn’t bother with Four-Thirds, but apparently, they don’t do their quality inspections so well.
I’m desperate for a great zoom on micro Four-Thirds but obviously, this Sigma lens isn’t the one.
14-35/2 and Sigmas 18-35/1.8 are within similar proximities
915g 86×123 vs 810g 78×121
only one of them is an Olympus
14-35/2 and Sigmas 18-35/1.8 are within similar proximities
915g 86×123 vs 810g 78×121
only one of them is an Olympus
– oops hit return or something and posted without comment
Yes I cannot see a Sigma being as good or better than the Olympus 14-35/2
The latest lenses from Sigma have been pretty damn good, though I would also be surprised if it approaches the superlative 14-35 F2 which costs a mighty £1800
http://www.wexphotographic.com/buy-olympus-14-35mm-f2-0-swd-zuiko-digital-lens/p1027368?awc=2298_1366284194_ec74e9da482e1456751cc4f5ee1c1467&utm_source=aw
Could be an interesting lens depending on your usage. Going from a wide normal to a normal telephoto isn’t that bad. Personally I would like a 35-100mm (18-50) lens as a lot of my work happens inside those focal lengths… But they can’t please all of us.
That thing would be HUGE on an MFT camera………
@Bob
While I agree totally about the size thing Bob, a few folk use the high end Olympus FT lenses which are huge in comparison to the mFT cameras. I see little point in Sigma just adding an mFT mount to an APS lens.
Kind of like a GIANT hood ornament on a Mini….but whatever! 🙂
Exciting lens release all the same, for APS-C users. I own the first lens in the new Sigma Art Line (35mm f/1.4), for my FF camera. Fantastic lens and extremely well-priced. Hope all of Sigma’s new Art Line Lenses are as good as the 35mm!
You’re forgetting that the Panasonic GH3 is also a micro Four-Thirds camera.
Yeah….but then I could just mount it on a APS-C size camera and have a bigger, better sensor..and the camera would be the same size as mounting it on a GH3 video camera….
Sorry…I know that some people really love the GH3..which is cool, its a great camera…but nothing that I want in MFT…but it is cool to see that that camera really satisfies some people’s needs!
Has to be fake.
Why would Sigma go all out on 43 all of sudden?
It makes no sense.
It is reportedly for APS cameras, not m43
FT1 ?
see this link in German lang,rumors is very exciting .
http://fotoblogazin.de/micro-four-thirds-rumors.html#olympus-pen-integrated-evf-e-p5
wow, nice overview of gossips 🙂
I do in particular like the translation of the term “global shutter” in the GH5-related rumor: “Globaler Auslöser”. Such a global trigger (“Auslöser” is the German term for the trigger, while the shutter would be a “Verschluss”) is a truly impressive innovation. I guess it means that anybody on the globe would be able to trigger your GH5 without even knowing…
Compare to this site(43rumors).
E-P5 has bulit-in EVF ~ NO.
G6 will announce nd of April ~ Uhmmm ,Maybe.
G6 integrates 16.00-megapixel Live MOS sensor as same GH3 ~ ohh ,really!!!.
OM-D Pro is called E-Pro 1 ~ what??.
GH5 has global shutter CMOS sensor ~ wait.
Official. For APS-C.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/04/18/Sigma-announces-worlds-first-F1-8-constant-aperture-zoom-lens
I dont understand what the point comparing m43 with dslr lenses?!?
This lens indeed will exist. Sigma announced that they are developing it. Japanese web site is reporting it:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130418_596451.html
This is very heavy lens of 880g. After switching to m4/3 from Canon system, I cannot imagine to hold such a heavy lens!
But it is certainly a breakthrough!
That’s still 20g lighter than the Olympus 14-35mm f/2.0 so that is an accomplishment of some sort.
1rst April is over
Btw admin are you french? :p
@Admin. It’s not a rumor, Sigma has officially announced this lens.
http://www.sigma-global.com/en/lenses/cas/product/art/a_18_35_18/features.html
Wow! Pity is has no IS and supports only C/N/Sigma mounts. But, it’s smaller than the Oly – and is shorter at the tele end. I hope the other lens makers will follow suit.
Filter thread: 72(!) mm. Quite big piece of glass.
wow, Sigma is getting serious with their new line of high grade lenses.
Well…great. And weighs 810 gram. That is a whole lot. Translate that to m43 format and what wouldwe get? 400 gram…500? Af f2.0 something near 400 gram, just a guess. I could accept that. 810 gram: Not on such a small cam.
+10000000000
You may be a bit optimistic. But I agree f2, 500g for mft should be possible based on this. 500g is perfectly fine for the mft bodies with grip. If I want small I will use the small primes. The Panny f2.8 zooms are not sufficiently radical.
The 35–100/2.8 telezoom is radical. The 12–35 maybe not.
What is radical about a lens that gives the same effect as an F5.6 70-200mm on FF
Huge bummer that it doesn’t have stabilization- this could’ve been a dream lens for videographers. Well, it still probably will be. I wish the Sony A mount cameras were anywhere close to Olympus 5 axis in terms of IBIS. This lens on a 5 axis APS body- WOW.
More Olympus BS, the Sony in camera IS works perfectly well , and IS only becomes an asset in very limited shooting scenarios such as low light static subjects, a lens covering from 28-50mm at F1.8 will have even less use for IS
The BS is all yours
People should tire of these featherweight photographers such as yourself full of incompetent advice. Stabilization be it in lenses or on bodies is very worthwhile.
IS in body or in lens is very limited in it usefulness, below a certain shutter speed motion blur will screw up moving subjects, above a certain speed it is irrelevant. When on any kind of camera support it is irrelevant, on UWA lenses it has negligible advantages. The faster the lens the less need for IS, the better the ISO the less need for IS.Even in FF you can get stabilized lenses from 16mm-1200mm {1800mm equiv on dx}so not much of an issue.
leaving you with its main benefits being exactly as suggested , namely low light static subjects. With rapidly decreasing usefulness in every other scenario , noow if you read carefully this does not mean that it has no uses, just that they are hugely over hyped typically by Olympus users
Don’t travel much?
Indoor, low light, architecture/site photos benefits way more from IS than a fast aperture. With canon IS I can do a 3 shot hand held HDR without bluuring. Vital if you want to try and capture what a dark interior of a cathedral while not blowing the stained glass.
Don’t travel much?
Don’t think much ?
“Indoor, low light, architecture/site photos benefits way more from IS than a fast aperture. With canon IS I can do a 3 shot hand held HDR without bluuring. Vital if you want to try and capture what a dark interior of a cathedral while not blowing the stained glass.”
Did you actually read what he/she/it wrote , i will refresh your memory he says that ISO is most useful for:
“”low light static subjects. With rapidly decreasing usefulness in every other scenario””
So your argument is that wait for it “IS” will be good for “Indoor, low light, architecture/site”” lol in case you miss the irony those subjects are all static and in every other scenario the value of IS diminishes just as the poster suggests. plus even using IS there is only so slow you can handhold , making the ability to handhold a series of images as part of an HDR only effective at a certain shutter speed.
Are you wondering who it is that posts all this negative nonsense about anything Olympus? Using a lot of strange nicks just rapped out of a keyboard
its jim stirling from dpreview
LOL, oh dear , I do not need to use anonymous ID’s to pass comments about Olympus or anything else for that matter .I have no problem expressing my opinion. I rarely post here and when I do I use this ID “JimSTir” , yet here you are using an anonymous ID’s to make accusations .I know of several Olympus fan-boys who will accept no criticism from any source, yet there is one whose moronic posts about all things Olympus go to a whole new level of stupid, this person has recently changed his ID here{ while maintaining the same photo} could that be you ?
I have posted one comment in this thread near the start about the recent quality of Sigma lenses { positive} and how I would prefer that they {Sigma} would release lenses with focal lengths more useful to the system. I do share the opinion that IS of any flavour is much less useful than many suggest, not entirely useless but nor is it a panacea. In conclusion if you have anything to say why not step out from your anonymous hiding spot,and man up if you have anything to say.My problem is not with Olympus per se I have the 60mm, 75mm mFT lenses and I am waiting patiently for an mFT platform { with good AF } for my 50-200mm FT lens, my problem is with the small band of Olympus fan-boys that pollute every forum in which they partake, making reasoned discussion all but impossible.
Jim
I seldom post here but when I do I use the ID “JimSTir” prior to this post I have made one post in this thread. Talking about the quality of the recent Sigma lens and expressing a wish that they would release some lenses in a focal length that would be more useful to us as mFT users. Unlike you who hides behind an anonymous ID to make accusations, I have absolutely no problem expressing my opinions on Olympus or anything else for that matter.
I do share the view that IS of any flavour while not completely useless is indeed limited in its functionality to certain specific circumstances. My problems are not with Olympus per se , I have the lovely 60mm and 75mm primes for mFT and I have also added an FT 50-200mm for use on a future mFT with full AF support for FT lenses. My problem is with a certain type of Olympus fanboy , just like you . You have been doing a lot of ID changing recently, so why don’t you man up and post using it rather than hiding behind anonymity, or would you prefer me to do it for you.
Jim
Actually effective image stabilization is hugely important for videographers no matter the focal length- and that is what the original post was about. It’s ridiculous to suggest the Sony ibis on the a mount comes anywhere close to being as useful for videographers as the Olympus 5 axis. As this lens does not have optical stabilization it’ll need a body with ibis- and none of the current APS bodies offer anything nearly as effective as Olympus- FOR VIDEOGRAPHERS.
I don’t see this lens on any Olympus or Panasonic body.
While we are talking lenses, any hints on the new m43 Oly zoom?
Worth dusting off your dslr…
Imagine this with the speedbooster!
It is a lens for 1.5 crop. Speed Booster will squeeze image circle so it won’t cover 43 sensor.
That depends on individual lenses. The change 135 to apsc is similar to apsc to m43. But apsc being closer to M43, some lenses will be fine and some will show a circle smaller than the sensor.
Lots of pie in the sky talk here.
It’s a very limited zoom range to mount a very heavy + expensive lens.
Better to use two or three primes to cover the same range.
You are right. I also wonder who needs a zoom of such a small range?
Well assuming the lens is a good performer , lets look at it this way on a Nikon D7100 {better sensor in every way than the E-M5}you have a zoom that covers a range equiv to 28-52mm on FF all at F1.8 {Which will give you the exact same DOF ,as an F1.4 on mFT}
So to match this lens { same AOV,DOF and noise levels} when mounted on a D7100/D5200 + 18-35mm F1.8 you will need the best mFT sensor { E-M5/GH3 etc} with a 14-26mm F1.4 lens though the range is narrow it certainly covers a very useful range for me at least.Think about it as a selection of fast primes in a single zoom to match the Sigma on Nikon APS it does the same job as a 14mm F1.4,17mm F1.4,25mm F1.4 doesnt seem like too bad a deal now does it
My comments are based on the idea of mounting this lens on an MFT camera, possibly with a metabones. This being an MFT site and all.
Constant comparisions with APS-C and FF bodies seem pointless.
@ salty
Well the lens is for APS so what is the point discussing it on mFT
“Constant comparisons with APS-C and FF bodies seem pointless.”
I don’t disagree with you Salty but it was the admin who posted this APS lens details so discussion is hardly a shock
Ohhh, good. Where do I find 18/1.8 prime for APS-C DSLR??
Oh wait!! They don’t make such primes!
Because wideangles on APS-C DSLRs are so insanely retrofocus, there is very little benefit of making them primes instead of zooms..
Are you talking to me? Please see comment above.
@ Boooe
“”Ohhh, good. Where do I find 18/1.8 prime for APS-C DSLR??””
Well they will not need to make them now will they lol, though I can’t say I have seen any mFT 14mm F1.4 lenses which you would need to match this lens on a Nikon D7100 [ AOV,DOF etc}.
That’s a pointless comparison you keep making, you must be very proud.
Would that be you whining about people talking about this APS lens mounted on an APS camera lol AT least the troll is comparing the mFT lens we need to match this lens that probably shouldn’t be here in the first place
Would that be you whining about people talking about this APS lens mounted on an APS camera lol At least the Nikon troll is comparing the mFT lens we need to match this lens that probably shouldn’t be here in the first place , you are just bitching about everything
You have poor reading comprehension skills
@ salty, the lens is an APS lens comprende ? so talking about it on APS is the only thing that does make sense. Bringing it back to mFT and explaining what would do the same job for us doesn’t seem to be a problem , perhaps you do not understand sensor tech, and equivalency
If I’ve understood you correctly what you’re saying is making pointless comparisons is the only thing that makes sense?
Only a few days until LF1 and G6 announcement and still more or less no information, no pictures, nothing! What a pity!
Nust received my Pana 7-14mm! 🙂 can’t wait to find the right scenario. (Sorry, but I’m happy)
This lens makes me wish I still had an APS-C camera.
I got into m43 to get out of the “weight lifting business.”
This is surely a nice lens, but far to heavy for me to have as some kind of normal lens.
If you look at the range alone it is not very comprehensive if you look at the effect on Nikon APS you have a 28-50mm FF equiv AOV with the same DOF as an F1.4 lens on our mFT bodies. look at it this way and how much would a 14mm F1.4, 17mm F1.4 , 20mm f1.4 and 25mm cost and even weigh,it covers all of ths plus the focal lengths in between . So not such a bad deal is it
Funny, I did too, But I stepped out the door today with my L-1/14-50mm Tank… I figured I can take some nice shots today, but it’s Overcast… Crap. Oh well…
With this post it seems 43rumours have caused some confusion. This is not an mft/m43 lens. I don’t know what relevance this news has to a site about ft and mft systems.
I agree. Must be a slow news day. Hang in there, admin.
For me the best thing about that lens is that now the other major manufacturers are going to design similar lenses to not loose market share to Sigma and we might see some similar fast lenses in the future. If it´s stellar I could buy a APS-C camera just for that lens but I hope that FF and mft owners will benefit from that development in the future too, without the need to jump ship.
26-50mm f2.6 FF lens with built-in speedbooster perhaps?
Sigma is really stepping it up. If they could make Better, Affordable lenses for MFT, That would be Awesome. And NO, I don’t mean the two they just put out recently… They should reverse engineer the Lumix 20mm/25mm and make it better.
Yes, Sigma is on fire these days. It would be great if they make dedicated f1.4 primes for MFT. Current f2.8 lenses are fine for their reasonable price but APS-C designed (more bulk) and relatively slow, aperture-wise. It does not have to be fancy – made of metal as Olympus but rather invest in better glass with durable plastic body. Put there a weather sealing, quiet modern AF motor, plastic lens hood and OMD users will be thrilled. Simple focal length for the start: 17mm f1.4, 25mm f1.4 and 45mm f1.4. Thanks :D.
I dont get it… This is a nice lens but they have substituted range for speed. Imagine if the 14-35 stopped at 25. It could have been a lot smaller or a lot faster.
So while i do agree it will be useful for some i am not sure it really delivers the true benefits of a zoom. Three small cheaper primes in m43 would do 90% of what this lens does… The 14mm, 17mm and 25mm… And you would still have money in your pocket.
The 14-35 is huge for the sensor size it is designed for not to mention wildly expensive. The APS sensor in the Nikon has 64% more area than the FT /mFT which the Sigma is designed to cover. So while the Sigma has a narrower optical range it is faster and is also designed for a larger sensor.
I think you are missing how lenses work. A 14-35 has more range than an 18-35, it may be marginally faster (F1.8 vs f2) but it starts considerably wider (14mm vs18mm). Most people dont understand that the sensor size a lens is mounted on does not change the properties of the lens in terms of actual focal length and aperture vs effective fl and aperture.
So while this sigma starts at 18 (28mm effective) and finishes at 35 (55mm effective) as an actual lens it has both less actual range and effective range.
Now when it comes to the final image and DoF effect the sigma will have greater subject isolation when compared to the olympus and less noise, OR the same noise and the same DoF. But what the Olympus offers is a significantly expanded effective range of 28mm to 70mm over 28mm to 55mm. If olympus had made their 14-35 a 14-25 it would have been much smaller with an f2 aperture OR it could have been the same size and probably been F4.
But the real comparisons should be done when we have image samples and a price for the sigma. We can do actual comparisons of overall IQ and a price vs size comparison. Personally, I dont feel 28mm to 55 mm is a very useful FL, but if we were to cut back I wouldnt mind a 35mm to 100mm (actual, so say 17mm to 50mm f2 lens from olympus)for m43rds.
Abraham
Edit, I meant f1.4 for the olympus not f4
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Now when it comes to the final image and DoF effect the sigma will have greater subject isolation when compared to the olympus and less noise, OR the same noise and the same DoF. But what the Olympus offers is a significantly expanded effective range of 28mm to 70mm over 28mm to 55mm. If olympus had made their 14-35 a 14-25 it would have been much smaller with an f2 aperture OR it could have been the same size and probably been F4.
The same noise thing is not always the case as it surmises that one must up ISO to maintain a given shutter speed this is very often not the case in the situations that demand more DOF such a s landscape shooting. As an example a shot taken at taken at 28mm equiv on mFT at F4 giving a shutter speed of 1/500th can easily be transferred to a 28mm at F8 and 1/125th . There are scenarios where a certain shutter speed is needed to stop subject motion for example.
While I dont disagree, we are not really talking about the same shot. Just as I can say well I can zoom to 70mm while the Sigma is stuck at 55… If we are going to shift parameters.
As it stands there is next to no difference in noise between the latest m43rds sensors and the recent APSC bodies (especially sony and Canon) so we are really talking DoF and at these FL if you are after it, it will take 43rds at 70mm f2 over APSC at 55mm and F1.8.
Hello Abraham
“While I dont disagree, we are not really talking about the same shot. Just as I can say well I can zoom to 70mm while the Sigma is stuck at 55… If we are going to shift parameters.”
Well ,unless we are trying to stop a subject moving faster than 1/125th can cope with the shots would be very comparable , same AOV , same DOF . The circumstances in your scenario only apply to those where I “need “{if I was a FF shooter} to match the shutter speed to stop motion, which is not a common situation when mixed with getting more DOF. In essence the FF sensor would be at an advantage in every scenario other than the one situation where maintaining the same shutterspeed while also maintaining the same DOF , even in this situation the worst that would happen to the FF Nikon shooter would be identical results , same AOV, same DOF, same ahutterspeed and same noise.
“As it stands there is next to no difference in noise between the latest m43rds sensors and the recent APSC bodies (especially sony and Canon) so we are really talking DoF and at these FL if you are after it, it will take 43rds at 70mm f2 over APSC at 55mm and F1.8.”
The D7100 has a .5/6 of a stop high ISO advantage, a .75 stop DOF difference, a 1.4 stop DR advantage along with a 1.4 stop colour depth advantage. The difference especially regarding DR and colour depth is quite obvious. Looking at the RAW files from the D7100 they have better shadow noise and detail which may or may not be important compared to the E-M5
Though for me the difference in weight of my E-M5 set up is what makes mFT a winner for me,I cannot ever see myself buying a DSLR again mFT has made photography fun again,I am no spring chicken and my mFT kit allows me to take part in life rather than waddle along distracted by the weight size and bulk of my old DSLR OUTFIT.
The Sigma “if” it is good wide open gives Nikon APS users an equivalent DOF of F1.4 on mFT. I have the Panasonic 14mm, the Olympus 17mm F1.8,Panasonic 20mm F1.7 and 25mm F1.4 , for a Nikon APS user all these lenses are covered and with all bar the 25mm F1.4 with better DOF control.I am not interested in such a set-up too large and heavy for my liking but then so is the FT 14-35 with the added burden of a very expensive price which i would wager will be far ahead of the Sigma.
Harry
An 18-35mm zoom (2x) range doesn’t seem all that great by today’s standards, but for APS-C, it does cover 3 of the traditional focal lengths of 35mm format of 28mm / 35mm / 50mm at reasonably fast speed of f/1.8 (and approx. f/2.7 equiv. DOF), albeit in a fairly large and heavy package.
Hypothetically, if this got a direct port over to m4/3 (not the first time Sigma has ported lenses designed for APS-C over to 4/3 & m4/3), it would give a similar effective focal range and DOF of a lens like the Nikon 35-70mm f/3.5 AI/AI-s. These were good and popular lenses for their day, but have very limited appeal in today’s market. Hence I do not think Sigma should port this lens over to m4/3. Sigma would win the support of many m4/3 users if they designed some native lenses for m4/3 that were affordable and offered good alternatives to what O & P already have.
“”So while i do agree it will be useful for some i am not sure it really delivers the true benefits of a zoom. Three small cheaper primes in m43 would do 90% of what this lens does… The 14mm, 17mm and 25mm… And you would still have money in your pocket.””
There is no 14mm F1.8 however the Olympus 12mm F2 is $800
The Olympus 17mm F1.8 costs $500
The Panasonic 25mm F1.4 costs $504 { an f1.4 lens would be needed to compete with the DOF,AOV and noise performance of this f1.8 lens on the best Nikon APS sensor}
That little lot will set you back at least $1804 even more if you could get a 14mm F1.4 + 17mm F1.4. So when you look at the lens in its native mount it’s not a bad deal, obviously assuming good results , though lets face it the 12mm and 17mm are not exactly the best lenses in mFT
You missed two important points of my argument. SO I will make them clearer. AT 14mm subject isolation is hardly paramount on APSC or m43rds (on ff you can get some good WA isolation). The 17mm f1.8 can produce very nice images, and the 25mm can also produce nice images. So you have a cheap 14mm $300, a $500 17mm and a $600 25mm… Comes to about $1400. I would be willing to place a bet that this lens will approach $1800 in price maybe more.
But lets see, one other bet I will make is the wide open performance will not be stellar, it will be good, but will not hold a candle to the FF setups people are harking that it challenges.
43rds is a different concept, and while people moan about the olympus F2 zooms, they seem to be praising a zoom with a very limited FL that is almost the size of the 14-35mm f2 zoom. In FF terms the isolation difference between an f2.6 and an f4 lens is marginal at WAs, so give me the extra range over the marginal speed for my work any day of the week. OR give me 2 m43rds bodies one with the 25mm and one with the 17mm for event work (I did it just the other week and it was perfect, one camera was setup for the front section where the presentation was happening, the other for the back where the tour was happening).
ABraham
Come on! Olympus! Give us F1.4 Zoom lens. I know you can do it! Do let us down!
Don’t let us down, I meant~ Olympus!
now make a 14-25/1.4 for mft please 🙂 for $1200.
If you combine this lens with a speed booster, it becomes a 13mm-25mm f1.3. Of course, I doubt that $1200 would cut it. I’d guess at least twice that for the lens and the adapter.
they could use the 75mm chassis I suppose,
the lens eventuating as a 35/1.2
“You missed two important points of my argument. SO I will make them clearer. AT 14mm subject isolation is hardly paramount on APSC or m43rds (on ff you can get some good WA isolation). The 17mm f1.8 can produce very nice images, and the 25mm can also produce nice images. So you have a cheap 14mm $300, a $500 17mm and a $600 25mm… Comes to about $1400. I would be willing to place a bet that this lens will approach $1800 in price maybe more.”…………………
Subject isolation may not be important but faster apertures that allow for a higher shutterspeed or lower ISO may be very important. Comparing like to like is different than randomly deciding that whatever F stop or focal range is good enough. There is no 14mm F1.8 { F1.4 if you wish to equal DOF etc for Nikon APS} if there was such an option it would cost far more than $300. As for price the latest Sigma 35mmF1.4 which by all accounts seems to be a winner costs $900 compared to $1600 for the Nikon or $1500 for the Canon alternatives so I am not so sure that it will cost as much as $1800 even if it did it would still be $500 less than the 14-35
But lets see, one other bet I will make is the wide open performance will not be stellar, it will be good, but will not hold a candle to the FF setups people are harking that it challenges.
I would have agreed with you totally but recent lenses from Sigma especially their higher end options have delivered surprisingly good results. It is an APS lens so its rivals are fewer and most are far from stellar. We will just have to wait and see.
“”43rds is a different concept, and while people moan about the Olympus F2 zooms, they seem to be praising a zoom with a very limited FL that is almost the size of the 14-35mm f2 zoom. In FF terms the isolation difference between an f2.6 and an f4 lens is marginal at WAs, so give me the extra range over the marginal speed for my work any day of the week. OR give me 2 m43rds bodies one with the 25mm and one with the 17mm for event work (I did it just the other week and it was perfect, one camera was setup for the front section where the presentation was happening, the other for the back where the tour was happening).””
The focal length is indeed narrower but it is a little faster and designed for a larger sensor .I expect that when the dust settles it will be far cheaper than the 14-35mm F2. Another major difference is the lack of fast lenses aimed at APS sensors from either of the big makers. This lens covers a very popular selection of primes [ at prime lens speeds]. It does as good or better a job as a 14mm, 17mm, 20mm and 25mm in our system. I use the FF equiv range of 28-50mm a lot .If it is up to scratch it could be a real winner for APS users.For my uses it is too large mFT is the best option for me at the moment but I think this lens on the new D5200 or D7100 could be a real sweet combo
No proper wide angle, a little too short on the telephoto and no weather sealing?
As far as I’m concerned it’s disqualified as a high grade standard zoom or travel lens because of it’s limited range and usefulness.
It may however substitute as an alternative option for those who’d like to have one lens covering 27-50 at f1.8 instead carrying a few lighter weight primes. This argument only stands if this lens can deliver comparable results to those primes which the zuiko 14-35 f2 is more than up to the task of doing.
It’s still very nice to see Sigma doing things like this kind of thing which I believe stimulates the market. This is a lens that puts apsc in a more legitimate position. Well done Sigma.
I find it funny how Nikon and Cannon are forgetting to make lenses for their own systems.
This should have come from them. I guess they are to concerned not to damage their FF lens and body image.
And like all Sigma lenses (and really most fast zooms) on DSLR it will have spherical aberration or other focusing issues…