Dear 43rumors readers.
It is now your turn to express your opinion about the new products and Panasonic/Oympus news. Photokina gave us some nice products but the manufacturers also lead us to believe that 2011 will become even more exciting. They promised us new pro lenses, even better cameras and more!
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46 Responses
Sorry I just feel none of them is innovative this time, at least most of the them are predictable when I compare the development of FourThirds family with Sigma SD1 (15mp x RGB Foveon) and Fujifilm X100 (Back to basic)
I will soon add a poll where people can select the best Photokina product 🙂
> Sigma SD1 (15mp x RGB Foveon) and Fujifilm X100 (Back to basic)
Both of them are prototypes and not real products. I like to see the developments too, but it is far too early to judge how the final product would look like.
OTOH most of the items on the poll are real deals, either already available or with known release dates.
Better check Carl’s blog, there’s some previews on the printout of SD1: http://www.rytterfalk.com/
they are all good 😀 anyway girlfriend just going into labour best be off :0
I searched 43rumors for “roadmap” and found out that the Panasonic 14mm pancake was first mentioned in September 2009. That looks like a bad omen 😉 for the upcoming fast primes and zomms to me. Hopefully it will take less than one year… they have to see that everybody is waiting for these lenses. On the other hand… take yout time Panasonic and make the as good as most (or even all?) of your g-series lenses.
The GH2 looks like my next Camera by the way…. 😉
All in all I’m very pleased with the evolution of mFT!!
iMIkl! The fast zoom lens will be announced along the professional M43 camcorder. That’swhat my sources said. And it makes sense. Would you buy a $6000 professional videocamera without a bright lens? 🙂
Okay… so you think they will be available in less than one year? If it’s so, I’ll probably save my money and don’t buy the voigtländer…. yet! 😉
…. and isn’t the camcorder already anounced?!?!?
Is ist the 12-75mm f/2.5-f/3.4 ?
The AF100 has already been announced. And no, there is no reason to release a lens along side the camera. Panasonic has never done so. Plenty of top quality video glass available, an order of magnitude more expensive than the best still glass.
Its confirmed that af100 will be 4995 srp
Did Panasinic release a price tag for the Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 lens?
$399!
do we have an new idea on the ETA on the smaller m43 camera or Olympus wide pancake?
Panasonic get all my votes. Don’t care about Olympus any more. I will happily upgrade my GH1 and add that 14mm to the collection. Just wish they come with a f/1.4 lens larger than 25mm.
@admin “Panasonic lens roadmap (25mm f/1.4 and two fast zooms)”
The third new lens is labeled “bright wide-angle”. I don’t think it’s a zoom.
May you are right Miroslav….
Actually to me the best news were the old news: my hands on with the E-P2. It is really nice piece of camera. (If only it had built-in VF… Crossing fingers.)
GH2 seems to be the winner of the poll, though I personally didn’t like it mostly for the cramped interface and feature overload.
P.S. BTW what does E-5 in the MFT poll? (Crossing fingers for the on-sensor PDAF in future MFT offering to properly support FT lenses.)
What we need is a poll of the least impressive Panasonic/Olympus product announcements. The E-5 and Oly’s “commitment” to Four Thirds would be at the top of that list for me
Olympus 75-300 not a hope next to the panasonic 100-300 on paper and I suspect on the gh2! I can see why its last in the poll.
I’m really saddened for the lack of commitment and customer respect Olympus has showed lately, but at least is comforting that Panasonic is delivering everything announced, and at reasonable prices (the new 14mm and 100-300 are spot on, IMHO)in contrast with the almost ripping price Olympus pretends for his zooms. 900 USD for the 75-300 for a über-slow zoom without O.S. is outlandish. I like Olympus, his innovative spirit and have shooted from OM to EPL1, but I’m affraid that my next body will be Panasonic. I was so disenchanted that gave more than a passing thought to switch systems, but nothing from Canikon nor Sony got me excited. Pentax is another story, but the price of their limiteds has gone up steadily. I still hope 2011 will be a great year for MFT. Still wishing for a good portrait prime, cheaper and faster than the 45mm macro.
Agree about slow aperture lenses but Olympus has well working body based stabilization so just why would they want to add it separately to their all lenses?
And speaking of lenses Panasonic’s own FT Leica D 14-150mm is faster than their 14-140mm MFT and also corrects most geometry distortions optically giving it further sharpness edge because 14-140mm’s reliance on software distortion correction gives either huge distortion or sharpness suffering outside center. So can’t celebrate too much on that side either.
And camera bodies themselves show how Panasonic isn’t maker with experience and traditions in camera making but Point&Shoot consumer electronics maker. While for Joe Average Point&Shooter anything with more buttons than power off/on button can be sold as advanced I demand actual real features instead of useless marketing hype:
These wannabe “advanced” models have rather lacking controls and plain horrible design/ergonomy.
Oversized rear end TV makes body unnecessary large while destroying any chance for good direct controls and comfortable grip because there’s no space left despite of large width.
And fake SLR design is the most horrible of all, while in SLRs position of viewfinder was fixed to above lens mount there isn’t a single excuse for dragging that ancient nose hitting to body/LCD-design into EVF camera!
I started my photography hobby without dragging stone sled from film era and went straight for Minolta 7i advanced manual zoom camera and two years later had to hurriedly start searching for already discontinued Minolta A2 because I didn’t like that dumbed down trend of digicams after Canikon introducing low end DSLRs. I’m glad that I went through that difficult search because A2 gave controls and ergonomy far superior to any cheap consumer DSLR in compact size and its EVF (quadruple pixel amount compared to other EVFs/LCDs) convinced me that whole clumsy “analog” film era mirror should be going away out of the way of live exposure preview and histogram advantages of EVF.
Ironically for products claimed to advance fast it took freaking five years until there was camera with as good or better EVF. True to their Point&Shoot tradition Panasonic was just unable to give G1 good direct controls and ergonomy and faithfully to that their marketroid driven development hasn’t corrected that.
Matsushita-Panasonic may have huge resources to use but unless they kick out those marketroids and get some real photographers/borrow some design people from Olympus they seem to have chronic inability to get out anything serious.
And despite of Sony having bought Minolta’s camera business with its long experience (including how to make EVF-based camera) they’re way too marketroid driven and whole NEX lineup more disagreeable than Panasonic MFTs.
Canikon again is as flexible minded as turning radius of Titanic with propellers on reverse and would have gladly prevented any changes in camera markets because of their cemented control of DSLRs through religious sects so really not interested of giving them a single cent.
Pentax would be another non-mainstream marketing driven company (also taking reasonable approach to MP race) but I fear medium format camera took most of their development resources.
So I sure hope that this relative silence from Olympus has been just a byproduct of them getting MFT “big guns” ready for blowing some major holes especially into plans of Canikon.
With their AF compatibility with FT lenses from the start (Pana got single AF to G2/G10) there’s also good chances for FT lenses being usable…
Using Fuji’s PD-AF on sensor they could simply keep existing FT lenses as pro-level lenses. That would also explain their MFT lenses being slow.
Nothing really exciting came from the m43 camp this year. There’s been no advancement or innovation.
Is it just me, or do the percentages add up to way over 100%?
Because every person can select a maximum of 5 answers.
Where’s the vote for ‘None’?
I think the AF on the GH2 is impressive, but not enough for me to go gaga over. I’ll also wait and see how well ’60p’ plays out once the cameras are tested in real world scenarios.
But really, I’m not excited over any 4/3 or m43 being shown at Photokina right now.
agreed. i waited 6 months but none of the rumors I was excited about came to fruition. many of the products are nice but it seems like every manufacturer (except maybe Panasonic w/ gh2 and Sony w/ a55) decided to set a price that seems unreasonable to me.
if i had to choose a theme for photokina 2010 it would be disappointment. yesterday i was hoping that some announcements might come towards the end of the show, but i am starting to doubt it.
now the only thing to look forward to is price drops haha. dana you can quote me on that one.
What about if you are a 4/3 user? the option dissapointed should be there.
Have there been any announcements of third-party lens adapters for Four-Thirds? In particular, I know that Novoflex makes adapters to mount M42, Nikon, Contax/Yashica, and Leica R on Four-Thirds cameras. Were there any announcements at Photokina about EOS to Four-Thirds?
Adapters for other lenses might help to reduce some of the risks of continuing to stay with a Four-Thirds camera, especially when Oly indicates in the best possible interpretation of its statements that no new Four-Thirds lenses are planned. Such lens adapters also might allow a more gentle migration between systems while continuing to use a still-functional four-thirds camera.
That is EOS lenses to Four-Thirds camera mount adapters.
Let’s see, hmmm the best news huh? Your g/f going into labor most deffinatly. Congrates! everything else except the GF2 not impressed.
Fujifilm x100
so, Panasonic steal the 43 show
and Voigtländer is above the E-5
I do hope Olympus are suitable told off and will do better next time (if we can wait that long)
there has been a decent lacking in innovation, but from my point of view, a nice couple of lenses will be popping out (bright primes) that i would love to trial on my e-pl1. the panasonic gh2 seems impressive, but at the end of the day, i really just want to take good photos, video is not really what i buy a digital camera for – as impressive as the GH2 can pull it off.
I would like some nicer announcements from Olympus…something to show they aren’t dragging the line but adding more innovative, smart lenses, that photographers (as opposed to videographers) will want to use.
I think maybe they are waiting for the photokina hype to die off before they drop some announcements. the flop of the fourthirds support will lead to sales drops for the e-5. (my predictions)
although my memory lapsed and i forgot about the fujifilm x100. that is a hot piece of gear. and i am a gear junkie. the hybrid viewfinder is (for me) the best thing to come out for a while. i’d love to get my hands on one and see how it fares 🙂
that should be the next thing on oly mfts. unless they can develop something a bit more..next level
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Admin, may we have confirmed that the GH2 sensor really has gapless design? Thanks!
Not yet 🙁
That’s a genuine propellerhead question!
;o)
The best news for (Micro)FourThirds from Photokina:
1. Not a single word on mirrorless Canon.
2. Nikon Q is a hoax.
3. Pentax would like to release a mirrorless camera, but does nothing about it.
4. Samsung releases NX100 that is basically an NX10 without the grip, flash and viewfinder.
5. Sony has released a new firmware for NEX that enables AF on A-mount lenses that takes “two to four seconds”, has shown mockups of seven new lenses for NEX to be released in the next two years and hasn’t mentioned NEX-7 at all.
The Camedia 2010 mock up wearing a Zuiko hat. Anticipate either a 1/1.5″ prosumer sensor like old Camedias, or a faster lens than f/2.0 with a 1/1.7″ sensor.
The good news here is that this little camera will be using the accessory shoe from the E-P2 & E-PL1. I wonder if the new Camedia also will be using the Wireless Remote Flash (FL-36R & FL-50R), such as the old Olympus SP-560UZ superzoom.
i like this post… boy it is topical & relevant to what im about to say!
any news on the GF cameras? specifically the slim/EVF rumors prior to photokina? im still surprised no EVIL got released. i wont consider samsung until they improve their 14.6 MP bad iso sensor, & wont consider NEX until their UI/handling get better
I will write new rumors next week. Now I have to rest a little bit 😉
well not ‘released’ like you ask, but the Fuji X100 was announced (available Mar-11, so they say!)
and yes mr admin must need a rest!
The best news was Fuji’s X100 Leica clone. Give us real controls, Oly!
i think if Fuji announced it in m43, i would have gone straight to the nearest ATM. As it is, Oly have a chance to catch up…
how in the world is exicted about the OLY 75-300mm6.7 in light of the 100-300mm panny
87+ people, wow