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I really like Samyang because they make some great and cheap (in terms of price) lenses. So it’s good to hear that they will soon make autofocus lenses too! According to Photorumors they will also launch their new company logo the coming days (image on top).
The real one thing they still have to fix are the many different brand names they use to sell their lenses! eBay links to all different branded Samyang lenses:
[shoplink 20647 ebay]Samyang [/shoplink], [shoplink 20684 ebay]Walimex [/shoplink], [shoplink 20649 ebay]Rokinon [/shoplink], [shoplink 20650 ebay]Opteka [/shoplink], [shoplink 20651 ebay]Falcon [/shoplink], [shoplink 20653 ebay]Vivitar [/shoplink] and[shoplink 20652 ebay]Bower [/shoplink].
Damn confusing 🙂
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so… what if….. they worked together with Metabones, and made AF versions of their lenses (that cover 24*36 frame), but make them a stop faster – Speedbooster at the rear end … WITH AF….
Lens lineup;
60/1
24,5/1
17/1
….. that’d be sweeet!
But they wouldn’t come cheap!
This predicted long time ago: http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-samyang-will-release-nex-lenses-with-autofocus/
I heard some people prefer samyang over rokinon or walimex. Is there really no difference between the lenses with different brand names?
No difference.
Samyang sounds like something you’d scrape off the bottom of your shoe. 🙂
I’d pick Bower branded lenses any day, which are exactly the same and even a bit cheaper, too.
+1 LOL
🙂
Watch your step… 🙂
Same lenses, different brand/marketing.
However… the Rokinon Cine lenses *are* different!
But they’re exactly the same lenses optical, with a few extra cine features with their housings.
Thus this makes the Rokinon Cine range by far the cheapest way to build up a set of cinema glass!
http://matthewduclos.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/rokinons-intro-to-cinema-lenses/
Nope, the cine model lenses are Samyang as well and can be bought as different brands than Rokinion. EG: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/887052-REG/Samyang_sycv35_c_35mm_T1_5_Cine_Lens.html
Rokinin is a third party reseller and does not design or manufacture lenses of any sort.
The differently branded Samyang lenses often sell in different markets. Though all are made in Korea, likely at the same factory, with the only difference being the brand name that gets painted on before it goes in the box. All of these lenses have the same glass, build quality, etc.
No difference, but the brands have different prices in different places. For some reason Samyang seems to sell at a premium over Rokinon or Bower in the US.
They should make manual zoom lens . For video .
I’m not sure this makes any difference for m43rd users. As it is their lenses are too big. They need to design lenses specifically for micro 43 rather for bigger formats that are then adapted to the smaller 43 format.
+1
They should also improve on their total of one m4/3 native lens.
to AF or not to AF can make a difference, depending if your object/subject cooperating or not. Regarding to size: depends what you call too big, its a personal preference and the choice of body. most OMD en GH types can handle any size.
Such is the price to pay when corners are cut when it comes to sensor… I’m sticking with M4/3 until AF speed catches up on FF. Not that M4/3 is inadequate but it’s getting disproportionately expensive as “pro” lenses start to appear.
Third party lens-makeres will usually design lenses by the biggest mount. It’s business, pure and simple.
Good news. As said, they should make native MFT lenses, not just aps-c lenses with different mount.
There are still few focal lengths that are not properly covered in MFT. Samyang should fill those gaps.
My wish list:
-(inexpensive) UWA prime, let’s say ~8mm f/4. Although AF is not a must in this.
-very fast normal lens with AF, 25mm f/~1 at least. I would be willing to spend quite amount of money to this.
-Super telephoto lens. 400mm f/4 maybe.
Panasonic 25mm f1,4. Fast and has AF 🙂
There is quite a lot of f/0.95 m4/3 options already, if only they got AF that would be sweet! But at what cost?
It would be nice, but not economical to cater to the 4/3 sensor size right now. It is easier just to make a lens for all mirrorless cameras, and slap a different mount on it.
But perhaps that will change with AF.
The other hope would be if they decided to cater to the Nikon 1. Make a lens that covers the 4/3 sensor and then slap a Nikon mount on it.
Good or not I guess they will not release many if any MFT AF lens. They target different markets …
They do have the 7.5mm fisheye that is a real MFT lens though. It is really a nice lens and I wish they would do more native MFT lenses like this, AF or not.
A non-fishy 7.5mm would be a GREAT place to start!
Yes, I vote fixed 7.5 or up to 10mm… when will we see a MFT super-wide?
That’s correct.
Of course, a fisheye is not a lens needed as often as a normal focal length lens, but therefore affordability is even more important.
With a fisheye, autofocus is a dispensable feature.
This, of course, is not the case for longer lenser, and so this Samyang move deserves applause.
Yes I know I own that lens too. It’s a very good lens. But as I have stated I think they will not target m43 ecosystem …
Will be SLR lenses anyways.
I hope Sigma, Tamron or anyonw ould start with a little more development for mirrorless…
Oh goodie…maybe they will make an AF 45mm f/1.2 Yang-do-cron for $600 in native MFT format. Can’t wait.
Q U E S T I O N :
Oly EM10 with 14-42mm OR Canon g1x mkII with 12-60mm (perfect range)????????
-> all over camera for the jacket pocket.
GX7 and 12-32mm. 😉
To bad this setup doesn’t exist as a kit.
I vote for the Panasonic GM1 + 12-32mm + 20mm for the win!
+1 . . . GM1 also works nice with the Oly 45 f1.8 and would ROCK with the Oly 12mm f2.
Same question here. Can’t wait to see a comparison between E-M10, G1X MkII and GM1!
All cams are around the same price point with the kit lens. At the moment the G1X MkII looks most promising to me…
Canon? Pocketable?!
There are many MFT cameras that are much smaller, with and without add-on VF’s that offer interchangeable lenses, more room for growth and a complete camera system to connect into.
Just look at the size difference:
http://camerasize.com/compare/#460,
“There are many MFT cameras that are much smaller, with and without add-on VF’s that offer interchangeable lenses, more room for growth and a complete camera system to connect into.”
Indeed. The G1X MkII is pocketable considering the outstanding zoom and bigger sensor than mft! Which camera exactly do you name as ‘much smaller’ other than the GM1? Note that you need to compare the G1X to a mft camera with a zoom lens that covers approx. 12 – 60mm.
Then further, why would you want to switch lenses when you have the perfect lens fixed on the camera?
Obviously you did not look at the link I attached in my post. GM1, EPM-3, EPL-5 EPL-6 all way smaller than the Canon.
Less expensive too….and picture quality as good or better. 🙂
Try this one: http://camerasize.com/compare/#534,472
Same size as the Canon with very good viewfinder.
The image quality coming out of the Canon in no better than MFT.
Hey..I have fisheye lens to 350mm equivalent range with fast primes (up to f/.95 available)
I guess your needs are not as great, because you are stuck with one semi fast lens.
Enjoy your Canon.
The canon G1X MKII is very good news for m43, as it proves that a lens of similar characteristics is indeed feasible for MFT. This idea is also supported by the recent achievements from pany and oly with their pancake kit lenses. Those 3 lenses prove that a relatively fast and compact 12-45mm lens or thereabout is achievable at a smaller size than current constant 2.8 zooms.
The 12-35 and 12-40 are brilliant lenses but remain too obtrusive for everyday walk-around purposes, and the pancakes zooms are too slow, we need something in-between like the G1X lens: compact, fast-ish, variable aperture, good range. Something like a smaller, faster f2.5-4 version of the Oly 12-50mm.
Good point.
hear hear
I looked into your link, but I could not see any mft camera on the linked page, only two compact cameras and a lot of advertisements.
The mentioned cameras are only about 1cm less in height, otherwise about the same size (except the GM1). This is certainly NOT signifiantly smaller.
I would bet the G1X MkII delivers better image quality than the GX7.
You are correct ..that link is not working, please try this one…so sorry:
http://camerasize.com/compare/#534,382
You are incorrect….The G1X is 11mm taller and 6mm wider than an E-PL5 for example…and if you can pull up that link you will see that it is “significant”!
“I would bet the G1X MkII delivers better image quality than the GX7” ????? Based on what?
I am not even a Panasonic fan..but the GX7 is the same size as the Canon G1X Mark II WITH a viewfinder included and interchangeable lenses and an up-to-date Sony sensor. The Canon IQ will not top that.
…and, now…with the new DxO Optics Pro 9…and the “Prime” noise reduction software all of these cameras (oh wait…the Canon G1X Mark II can’t be used with Optics Pro 9….), the results are just pretty damn good even when shooting at ISO 1200 or even 1600. Really amazing.
….but, do enjoy your Canon purchase. I own a Canon FF camera…and love it…but that company is entirely clueless when it comes to the small mirrorless cameras, IMHO.
unfortunately, I can’t enjoy my purchase because the camera is not out yet 😉
don’t know about DxO Optics Pro 9, but I hope your correct about the IQ, then I won’t have to consider the G1X, which makes the choice for my next mirrorless much easier 🙂
I’d suggest Sony A6000 with its 16-50mm pancake kit zoom. ($800 for the kit.)
Panasonic Lumix LX7 with add-on automatic lens cap.
This camera as a concealable, inconspicuous, non-threatening, all purpose, low-light stills/videos camera and sunset champion . . . . is hard to beat
Prefer 12mm TS to more AF lenses.
A 1000000x times this!
m43 lens catalog covers pretty much all the bases, ony a handful of specialist lenses are lacking, of which TS lenses are the most interesting. We already know long tele lenses are coming no matter what and macro is a given too, it’s only TS lenses which have no attention from either Oly, Pany or 3rd party manufacturers. I’m placing my bet on SLR magic doing something crazy like this. The only other hope is for fotodiox to release a m43 version of their rhinocam.
If Leica DID produce a TS wide-angle lens at the real world price . . . how many m4/3 owners would pony-up, and how many would throw a tantrum similar to when they announced the price of the Leica 42.5mm – f1.2?
Part of the problem is that m4/3 users expect everything on the cheap and TS lenses have never been produced on the cheap.
Perhaps our attempts to mau-mau the manufacturers into producing on the cheap, is having the perverse effect of convincing them that the m4/3 community won’t support exotic products.
And what about the 10mm 2.8 promise they made for January-February?
Yes please.
Samyang produces some very fine lenses, but they fail in terms of size. I just don’t get it: Why do they produce lenses for SLRs when there are tons of cheap and good lenses available for Canon, Nikon, Pentax and Sony A? They should focus on mirrorless systems where cheap and good lenses are still rare!
Just an example: Olympus 25mm/1.8 (50mm equivalent) is 400€
Canon 50mm/1.8 is less than 100€
I have once tried an 85mm/1.5 Lens from Samyang, outstanding value for the money, but it’s a brick! (two times as heavy as the camera itself) For me a no-go for a mirrorless camera!
The Canon 50mm f1.8 is a really cheap and nasty lens.
It has a plastic mount, is made of the cheapest plastic known to mankind, has really slow, noisy and inaccurate AF and worst of all, it’s got soft corners until f4,
The corners are too soft until f2.8 and only come good at f4. Has coma wide open. Has the blooming effect on a bright day wide open.
Not comparable at all
Ok, so how about the Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm 1:1.8, currently also for 100€… that’s not a bad lens at all! And if you say it is not as good as the Olympus, is the Olympus really four times as good as this Nikon 50mm?? I think no… MFT lenses are way overpriced in every aspect
the current logo is beautiful
the new one will be ugly
head about this some where last year
sounds good as they make some good gear but they make some crap as well
i think if they go af it will be good thought
they might go the same way as sigma APS-C with MFT as an after thought
i guess we will all have to waite and see
watch was too easy in the past, but these days it’s close to impossible