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Preorders (Click on store name to jump on site):
LX100 at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto. Europe at Panasonic Germany, WexUK, Panasonic Austria, Panasonic France, Panasonic Italy, Panasonic Spain, Panasonic Netherlands, Panasonic Belgium.
GM5 at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto. Europe at Panasonic Germany, WexUK, Panasonic Austria, Panasonic France, Panasonic Italy, Panasonic Spain, Panasonic Netherlands, Panasonic Belgium.
GM5 in red at Adorama.
35-100mm at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto. Europe at Panasonic Germany, Panasonic Austria, Panasonic France, Panasonic Italy, Panasonic Spain, Panasonic Netherlands, Panasonic Belgium.
14mm at Panasonic Germany, Panasonic Austria, Panasonic Spain, Panasonic Netherlands, Panasonic Belgium.
Previews:
LX100: ThePhoBlographer, Dpreview, Photographyblog, ePhotozine, Cnet,
GM5: Dpreview, ThePhoBlographer, Photographyblog, ePhotozine, Cnet, Imaging Resource.
35-100mm: Photographyblog,
Videos:
LX100: Intro by Panasonic, 4k sample, First look at Jessops, Panasonic Germany, BHphoto,
Gm5: Intro by Panasonic,
HOT(!) info:
Fantastic CM1 1 inch smartphone from Panasonic (Engadget and in German at SystemKameraForum)
14mm lens gets updated (Photographyblog)
GH4 firmware coming in October (Dpreview)
FZ1000 firmware also coming (Dpreview)
Panasonic also announced the 30mm f/2.8 (43rumors).
Panasonic Interview at Photographyblog.
Press release:
LX100: Dpreview, SystemKameraForum (German), Lemondedelaphoto (French), Quesabesde (Spanish), Dicahub (Korea), Photoscala (German), DC.watch (Japanese).
GM5: Dpreview, SystemKameraForum (German), Lemondedelaphoto (French), Quesabesde (Spanish), Dicahub (Korea), Photoscala (German), DC.watch (Japanese).
35-100mm: Dpreview, SystemKameraForum (German), Photoscala (German), DC.watch (Japanese).
GH4 firmware update Dpreview,
FZ1000 firmware update Dpreview,
CM1 at Photoscala (German), Video by Panasonic Germany.
14mm update at Photoscala (German), DC.watch (Japanese).
Poll:
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Reminder: Today new(!) Olympus Preorders:
Silver E-M1 body at Amazon, Adorama, Bhphoto, GetOlympus.
40-150mm f/2.8 PRO lens at Amazon, Adorama, Bhphoto, GetOlympus.
LH-76 lens hood at Adorama, Bhphoto, GetOlympus.
MC-14 1.4x teleconverter at Amazon, Adorama, Bhphoto, GetOlympus.
PRF-ZD62 Z protection filter at Adorama, Bhphoto, GetOlympus.
PRF-ZD72 Z protection filter at Adorama, Bhphoto, GetOlympus.
General links to all new Olympus stuff at Adorama.
ALL new stuff announced at Photokina at Amazon.
282 Responses
that is one sexy looking camera!
Yeah, it looks good — until the lens protrudes…
Is that an LX100 in your pocket or…?
Yeah! I wonder how fast that f/1.7 aperture falls off. f/2.8 at 28mm equiv?
F2.2 @16mm (35mm equiv.) and F2.8 @23-34mm (50-75mm equiv.)
2.2x crop factor compared to full frame. Still much better than Sony Rx100 III and the new Canon G7 X — although the last one has more zoom. Looks like the LX100 is a good compromise and a winner to me provided it has 25fps video. Too bad no mic input.
2.2x crop in 4:3 mode?what about other modes?
Should be slightly less for 3:2 and 16:9, I guess, due to multi aspect ration sensor. So for video, you get near 2x crop. I don’t know for 4K video, though.
It has a microphone port!
Where? One review says it has two ports for mic in front of hot shoe. This reviewer simply means two tiny holes for built in stereo mic. It has no mic port as far as I can tell.
HELL YES
Looks great!
Damn I want that camera!
This image blows my mind….http://www.photographyblog.com/images/uploads_ee2/news_gallery_images/panasonic_photokina_2014_lx100_09.jpg
Brick, meet Matchbox.
better pics. details @ http://www.cnet.com/products/panasonic-lumix-dmc-lx100/
For the ones interested in the GH4 firmware upgrade:
Panasonic announces the new firmware update program for the LUMIX G Interchangeable Lens Camera
DMC-GH4. The firmware will be released to enhance the performance and controllability of the camera, featuring new 4K Photo Mode.
The 4K Photo mode encourages a new way of photography first proposed by Panasonic. It encourages users to capture spur-of-the-moment, high resolution, 4K photos by cropping out a designated frame from a 4K video. With the new firmware for GH4, it is easier to get 4K photo by using the dedicated mode.
Once selecting the 4K Photo Mode, recording format, picture quality setting, brightness level are automatically set to the optimum parameter for photo shooting. Users can record high quality video either in 4:3, 3:2 or even 1:1 aspect, in addition to 16:9, all which can provide a still image with 8-megapixel equivalent resolution. Each JPEG image cropped out of the video footage complies with EXIF just as a normal still picture. While recording the 4K video in 4K Photo Mode, it is possible to mark the designated part by just pressing the [Fn1] button. This can reduce postproduction work for searching the spur-of-the-moment worth cropping out. Furthermore, 4K video can be recorded continuously with Loop Rec function which keeps on saving 5 newest 2-minute video files before you press record. This means users can patiently wait for the perfect photo opportunity to come along for as long as they want through keeping the camera recording.
There are more functional upgrades such as an addition of 4K video recording in 23.98p (MP4, AAC) and enhancement of controllability over ISO setting or light amount of flash emission. Also, the DMC-GH4 now expands its connectivity with external equipment. For example, the PC software “USB Tether*2” enables remote camera control (shooting, setting or image data transfer) by PC via USB.
The PHOTOfunSTUDIO 9.5PE and Panasonic Image App for iOS/Android will also be updated to support these functional upgrades.
The new firmware program is scheduled to be released with more information in detail at the Panasonic LUMIX Support Site at http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/ in the beginning of October, 2014.
*1 Use SDXC/SDHC Memory Card compatible with UHS Speed Class 3 (U3)
*2 *For more information on PC software “USB Tether”, please visit the website of Promote Systems.http://www.promotesystems.com/
•Android and Google Play are trademarks or registered trademarks of Google Inc.
• IOS is a trademark or registered trademark of Cisco in the U.S. and other countries and is used under license.
shiiiiiiiiitttttteeeeeee firmware update. rumors should have been labeled an FT-5 was not even close to rumor. who the heck are supposed sources 12 year old teenagers.
I think the GM5 just killed off the GX7 – bye bye.
Yeah, there’s lots of overlap now. I’m not amused.
You can shoot and carry a GX7 with one hand, that’s the really big plus for me. Why would I buy a camera that would fall off my hands ?
Gee, I bet your one-handed shots are the real keepers too.
Where’s the overlap??
Are you comparing the GM5 to the GX7? If so, how? One is much smaller than the other, and has features that differ. The only thing they share are a lens mount and sensor.
With the addition of the viewfinder, the GM5 has gotten one of the main features of the GX7. The GX7 still has tiltable (and probably bigger EVF), titlable screen, more manual controls, higher max shutter etc. So it’s like a big brother to the GM5. and since Pana seems to focus on small and beefy cams and hybrid video monsters at the moment, I just don’t see huge chances for the GX8. Not to mention that there are no firmware updates, but that’s nothing new.
How about OrganicSensor that hit 29.3 EV in DR performance with MCS tech inside it + GlobalShutter ( if possible ) + 5 axis in the next GX ?
I don’t use the name of GX8 cause I know Pana like to jump around with numbers , likely GX9 .
Any breakthrough in techs always make it’s debut in GX line , don’t expect it at GM line .
Yes, I also thought that Pana might use the GX line as its enthusiast photography line, compared to the GH line which is mainly for video. Could be true especially for organic sensor, which might be difficult to optimize for video. Btw, your DR for the Organic sensor is wrong, it will be around 15 DR. Still spectacular.
Does the GX7 have a built in flash with the viewfinder? My guess would be that and the tilting screen are the only differences. I’ll wait until next year to upgrade my GM1 when they decide to put in a tilting screen.
Does the gm5 have ibis? I think rumors said it did, but I didn’t notice it in the preview. If not, that’s another advantage of the gx7. It would be very impressive if they could fit ibis into that little body…
-And Killed off the Whole PEN series too. Peace out!
live video out ?
I WANT IT!!!
this camera is gonna kill the rx100III for sure. Those manual controls are perfect. It really looks like the best compact you can get. This costs the same price as a GX7 and it comes with a fast zoom. And it shoots 4k!
Kill the Sony rx100iii? I don’t think so. The Sony is still much more compact and unassuming looking.
I think the Panasonic lx100 is a great camera, kudos to Panny for it, but there’s still space for the more pocketable Sony.
If I could only use one of those two cameras, I’d choose lx100. But if I was looking for a more compact supplement to other, bigger, systems, I think Sony has the edge.
Had they managed to fit this into a GM1 sized body, then it might kill the RX100. But at this size, I think the RX100 will still have a following, especially once Sony drops the price by $100 🙂
design is ok = to LX7
size is ok : a bit bigger then LX7
battery is ok : DMW-BLG10 – not new – you can by good 3rd party
but I can’t find a resonable page of the detailed specifications
http://www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic/compacts/panasonic_dmclx100/specifications
I know. It’s nothing.
– stabilizer
– exact focal length for the different aspect ratios
– dirty details – restrictions??
————
seems so that there is absolutely no high speed video 🙁
LX100 = A love child of the GH4 and GM1. What a fantastic creature!!
Here we go
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-lx100
The LX100 takes me right back! Unfortunately, it took me back to the horrible eighties.
James Bond wearing shoulder pads, Billy Idol wearing leather pants, Mr.T’s Mohawk, Acid Wash jeans…. and now LX100. Bleeeeeach!!!!! I’m outa here guys.
no taste…
no touch screen though, unlike gm5
..
What, that doesn’t make any sense … but then again, Pana gave the LX100 shutter speed and exposure compensation dials out of nowhere.
no built in flash
plenty of stops of available light present 🙂
Has a clip on.
Seriously, the E-M1 has a clip on flash, and it’s MUCH more huge than the GM5.
Seriously?
Yeah i saw. I’m ok if that flash can be fold flash
hmmmm….The GM5 looks like the sexy story of Photokina. Pretty cool little camera with everything that you need and nothing that you don’t!!!! Even available in hot red!
You sexy beast!
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
“Philip Bloom”
Yup it’s me boy.
And I’m Steven Spielberg.
Get out of your parent’s basement and get a life “Mr. Bloom.”
IMHO high end compacts are the future.
That’s what Panasonic seems to think. This year, no update for GF or G series.
Really like the 4K photo mode with two minute loop in the GH4 update.
also in the FZ1000
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/2750546856/panasonic-lumix-dmc-fz1000-firmware-update-enables-4k-photo-mode
GM5 – anybody found any info on improved shutter speeds? On the GM1 the “electronic shutter” overtakes the “electronic front curtain” at speeds above 1/500 and that’s something that really needs to improve.
It looks like the LX100 gets a mechanical shutter up to 1/4000 and electronic above that. I will go out on a limb and assume the GM5 uses the same shutter module (both have the same max 1/16000).
well if that turns out to be true, I’m selling my GM1 and updating to a GM5 🙂
The link to the Photographyblog on the 35-100mm says that Panasonic also released a new version of the 14MM f2.5.
Yep, to match the GM-5. It’s a style update only, like they did with the 20mm. Very boring.
Pretty nice cameras especially LX100 .
Pana did it again .
Kudos to Pana !
The only two cameras I have ever pre-ordered have been the GH4 and now the LX100. Panasonic is truly on their game and releasing amazing products that shake things up. I am a little disappointed about the GH4 firmware update but it is just as great a camera today as it was yesterday. I’ll keep shooting =P
gh4 firmware update was pure shite, you could take 4k movie stills before the update, I would have love to see a log profile. or something to improve the gh4 96fps a little more.
LX100 is a Winner. It will atract both photographers and videographers.
It will be a great backup for people with big DSLRs.
It will also be a great A-Cam for people who like more compact options.
Dream Lx100 a true photographers pro camera with old time dials. And shoot manual 4k 😀 wow and a SUMMILUX lens
Well, a Panleica Lumilux, at least. 😛
Wow I love that 35-100mm! 135g 5.5x5cm size LOL!
But as a travel cam, or have only one cam , or backup cam LX100 is really the bomb! 🙂
Prices are very decent. Especially LX100.
That one will even be worth it in Leica branding! 🙂
Does it have a new sensor, or still the old one ?
LX100 No Mode Dial – No Touch LCD – GM5 No IBIS –
no Touch LCD on the LX100 is the biggest disappointment for me – and most point and shoot users prefer a Mode Dial over a dedicated dial for shutter speed – Why did they not put a scroll wheel on the back as on the GX7 and GM1 and GM5 with a push where one can switch between S and A settings – ( trying to copy Fuji )
So looks are fine – viewfinder is nice – lens speed and range is fine – but no bloody Touch LCD on the LX100 – a disappointment especially as smaller body’s need it as body so small that not much space for buttons and dials so soft Fn keys for example are awesome like on the GX7.
So nice to have an EVF on the GM5 and tilt LCD but still no IBIS – a real bummer as I was hoping to just clue my Olympus 45mm F1.8 on there 🙂 as it would have made a perfect pair – but with no IBIS it will continue to stay on one of my GX7’s – Panasonic needs to put IBIS in the GMn series so they can shrink the lens design with no IS – I will still be ordering the LX100 due to sensor size and lens, but interface without Touch LCD will remind me of my Sony and Fuji frustration – so no Touch To Shoot something point and shoot users really enjoy and is extremely useful as they are not good in moving focus points or compose and re-compose
mode dial you touch only time to set mode… time and aperture you touch always. Physical controls are awesome. And tilt screen is unnecessary in this body. Touch screen .. i’m very happy without.. no accidental touch settings
why is til LCD unnecessary ? I like shots from above and very low shots and most would agree that is why we have tilt-LCD’s – Fuji now putting them on their body’s – Sony added for their RX100m3 model etc – I hope a future LX100 model will have one – the original RX100 did not have one but it was a feature so many requested that Sony added it – I guess up to personal taste
It has a touch screen! Where have you read that it hasn’t one.
The reason behind this is Pana want to reserve the ultimate premier camera still from the GX series .
Can’t you notice that ?
Hmmm. First impression of LX100 is very positive. But there’s is also a negative aspect. It seems that Panasonic doesn’t like articulating screens any longer. Why? This is so important, not only for video but also for taking creative pictures. I cannot understand. Would pay 100 bucks more for having one.
it’s a big disappointment
I gotta agree with this. At the very least, use the GX7’s screen design. That design maintained a sleek look while remaining functional.
Yes, GX7 with that fixed lens and a little bit smaller size would have been perfect. But you can’t have it all. I was seriously thinking about selling my GM1 and the 12/2.0 lens for the LX100. But now I will wait for the next generation.
They won’t be the first to do it but they should at least have a Live-Stream to an Android Phone, so you can hold Camera in one hand (or Tripod) and use your Phone to aim/focus/shoot a Photo.
All they need is BT or WiFi and an App. at the G+Store. It won’t cost as much as an articulated Screen and may be way better (if you have a 1080P Phone). A detachable Screen beats an articulated one (for me / most? ppl.) even if you have to buy a decent Phone to enjoy the Feature.
They already have the Panasonic Image App.. And it works perfectly.
Anyone interested in the Panasonic CM1 ?
1 inch sony sensor with f2.8 leica branded lens on a android smartphone o_o
http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/15/6151671/panasonic-leica-cm1-android-cameraphone
Looks pretty nice too
my future smartphone. Panasonic rules.. others see in panic
LX100 my future camera a truly winner couple
I’d be interested, though I’m in the US, on Sprint, and I just upgraded to a Nexus 5. Probably priced high for me (most are), but an appealing phone for me.
I’m suddenly having a Deja Vu moment! I’ve seen the LX100 before somewhere. Just can’t quite place it.
Oh, wait a minute, my phone is ringing… Hello, right, ok. Bye.
Bad news guys, Nikon just called and they want their P7800 design back
You can tell Nikon to go sod off. It’s looks nothing like the P7800.
But the resemblance to the P7700 is uncanny!!!
Isn’t it ironic? Don’t you think?
What a FAIL! The Nikon (2013) is a total Ripp Of the LC-1 that came out 9 years earlier.
Tell Nikon Panasonic said FO 🙂
You do have a point and Panasonic does have a case against Nikon
yeah..Ren Kockwell is just like Ken Rockwell, afterall!!!!!
Not so sexy
Seems the discounted GX7 is the way forward for this guy.
Big disappointment after Olympus also from Panasonic. LX100 with fixed shutter dial, why no multi purpose dial. GM5 almost like the GX7. Panasonic has already a 45-150 lens that is pretty small.
Nothing new here, only an attempt to follow trends.
Still no m43 camera with good video with in body stabilization so that the pancake can be used to fuller potential.
I can tell you’re a glass-half-empty kind of guy.
no..no….TOTALLY empty! 🙂
That would make you a troll, thanks for admitting it!
I can tell you’re the type of guy who eats chocolate covered t*rds…..
What’s all this talk about sexy? You guys don’t know sexy if sexy sat on your face with her legs apart. But this one, this one is SEXY!
Ha, a panny fanboy, rare.
You’re dead wrong F00-boy! I’m a Leica fan man. Now go eat your vegetables and then do your homework.
Do not understand half of what you wrote. But I do understand I am talking to some serious teenage angst, my mistake.
That’s because you’re hangin with the grownups. Be a good kid now. You should be seen and not heard. Lights out punk.
Grown ups* two words. And why prove my point?
Gee, you’ve taught an Amerikan how to sphell. Marmie must be real proud of you kiddo!
Does she know you’re smokin’ that stuff anyways???
Come on boy, is that all you’ve got? Gimme one below the belt!!!
That just went straight over your head Hun? Just stick with the name calling and call it a day buddy.
Way pass bedtime boy
I’ll just allow you one more. Now be a good boy and fill in the space below. On my mark… Go!
do you have no sense of irony?
You two must be related. He did not spell those two words wrong, he just did not know they were two words not one…think before you type.
sexy because it has lipstick on it 🙂
Hey you Ulli, you are master of great one liner and punchline. You rockin it dude!
I have not met Sexy, closest chick to her I know is Lexi.
If she is ~20 + less than a half dozen visitors (and not recently), send her over.
Ugly but not fugly. Leave that to canon gx
2 deal breakers
– no tilt screen
– no 5 axis stabi in video mode
sorry
Yeah the ibis killed it for me. Sticking with omd or get a discounted gx7
Actually the FZ1000 has no IBIS it uses electronic/crop stabi in video mode.
I supposed that the same will be used in the LX100 too.
whah..whah…no tilt screen…whah…I want everything from my big camera on my small camera so that it gets big…whah….. LOL@!
absolutely
Sony RX100 III has it
Isn’t it excellent that there is the Sony RX100Mk3 then for you? Choice and all that.
no, I don’t like Sony’s picture style: colors, sharpening…
and it doesn’t have 5 axis stabi
I’m considering the FZ1000
Whaah..whah..whah….whah..I have very special needs…whah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMAOFOTF!!!!!
yes
what’s your problem? had a bad dream? didn’t get enough food?
OK..so I was non-+’ed buy the rumors leading up to Photokina…was not really interested in any new MFT camera without new sensor…and I am totally a Oly-Boy (stills only…so that works)….but I have to say that the GM5 with the Leica 15mm is an intriguing little piece of kit….and I do mean little…hmmm… I am in USA and it will only be offered as a kit in Europe (no surprise..they just “get it” more than USA when it comes to creating art….
I will have to look into purchase opportunities…perhaps in Hong Kong…
The only thing they forgot was an external audio input. Kind of makes it useless for casual video shooting, so the LX100 isn’t a proper hybrid camera even with 4k video recording. Too bad.
you can buy a pretty good recorder for about $200-$300
It’s 100times better then any camera solution
Ugh, I don’t have to spend even more money for a separate device that increases the fiddling factor and requires audio synching in post. The alternative is to just plug in an external microphone and get good enough sound for the majority of casual purposes. I doubt anyone will use the LX100 where you have audio recorders, XLR inputs, a boom operator and so on…
– syncing is not a big deal
– you don’t need XLR + boom etc.
– if you have a recorder the sound will be independent of the camera direction if you put it on a fix place
– if you want you can put a small recorder like Oly LS11..LS14 even on the flash mount
– if you want you can put the mic on the flash mount and put the recorder in your pocket or hang it in your neck
Yeah, I always run a shotgun mic into my compact camera at family functions. Completely casual to me. The mic is bigger than my camera, but that doesn’t bother me. I just don’t understand why I don’t have any friends anymore.
I own an lx-7 and love it. I wanted to love this camera, and buy one right away at whatever cost. No built in Flash – and the controls look horrible. No slo-mo video? A little disappointing, not sure ill buy one now. Glad I just bought the gx7, no regrets. WIsh they would make a new camera similar to the GH2, size ergonomics, tilt screen, just need to update the sensor and processor!
Oh and no time lapse. Although the lx-7 time lapse is useless.
The camera does 60P in Full HD, how slow were you expecting?
100-120 fps
lx-7 does 120fps @ 1280×720. I would expect to at least match that!
You just go your self a really nice camera – the GX7, and now at a low price – the GX7 just combines looks and handling and controls so nicely – and it has IBIS which I love as many of use like to use the Olympus 45mm F1.8 for example or 20mm F1.7 – I was hoping the GM5 was going to have IBIS – but no cigar – so I might get my 3rd GX7 as prices so nice now – LX100 still on my radar due to size – as hard to match that fast lens with the large sensor in such a small body –
The Sony RX100 M3 still remains the smallest one and a fixed F2.8 – but no 4k video – but has a Tilt LCD – so for those who just want the smallest body then the LX100 is not it – but many do not mind a bit larger size – cost on the RX100m3 is only $50 less so Panasonic is offering a lot more –
I would encourage video peeps on here to check out the LX100 4K samples… amazing stuff!! Not the typical oversharpened promo shots, just beautiful Leica greatness!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DFv0Z7q1v0
This is precisely why 4K on the EM1 would have been so good. These shots could have been handheld. No telling what kind of rig they had the LX100 strapped to.
Terrible highlight clipping.
Agreed… few filmmakers are as skilled as P-Bloom 😉
put Nd and resolve this. And a little play with luminance level in LX100 video
We want zebras (not holding my breath)!! Also interested to find out if the 4K crop is reduced to around 2.1x with the MAR sensor… it would be nice to have the entire wide end of this lens on tap for video use.
FZ1000 have zebras LX100 have x sure.
Wait a full specs list on panasonic site
It may be me, but it looks like a compact camera. Horrible highlights, too. I also see the usual “expert” suggesting NDs LOL.
Leica greatness? Some marketing folks need to keep in touch with reality.
It’s just you.
The RX100 III beats GM5 + kit lens, 15 f/1,7, 14/2.5
However, when you mount other lenses like 7-14 or 35-100 (better with the new one), 100-300
the setup is not ergonomic…..
I think GX7 is a more all round camera
if only the GM5 had In Body Image Stabilization – then the GM5 with the Olympus 45mm F1.8 would be a perfect match and package – or the 20mm F1.7 – still small and light – yes the RX100m3 will still be the king when considering size – and it has a tilt LCD – but now Canon has come out with a 1 inch compact body camera – just have not seen the specs to compare
Why no IS is so big problem? Especially with such a fast prime.
IS will give you few stops – so ability to get down to slow shutter speeds – letting in more light – and of course M43 being a smaller sensor needs all the help it can get 🙂 so in many ways I am getting similar performance with my GX7/EM5/EM1 and 25mm F1.4 as I would with my APC size sensor cameras with F1.8 and no IS – there is a reason why the 42.5mm F1.2 has IS – also helps greatly with video – yes although one might thing F1.4 in M43 is a fast lens – but in 35mm terms not so fast – So IS really helps on primes in my experience
So does the LX100 have Touch LCD or not?? DPreview states it does – but a comment on site said No – which is it ?
“The LX100 is equipped with a built-in viewfinder of XGA resolution as well as a 3″ 920k-dot tilting touch LCD.”
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7481339696/panasonic-reveals-lumix-dmc-lx100-with-four-thirds-sensor
I see it on DPreview – but I have seen some comments say otherwise and of course the FZ1000 does not have it – the other thing is by looking at the pictures it just does not seem to have a Tilt LCD – yet Dpreview says it does – I have not seen a picture with it tilting – I hope Dprreivew has it right
I see the LX100 4K sample… and… OOOOO.OOOOO WOW
This multiaspect sensor allow full pixel readout for 4K video how do GH4 wow. The video seems recorded with cine-d stlye. I’m extremely impressed.
Its poopydoop.
I admit, lack of touch screen is a bit of a disappointment. For example, the ability to move focus area using touch while looking through EVF is one of the most useful features of their GX7. But it’s useless to want all the big camera stuff in a small, reasonably priced package – something has to go. In my opinion they hit close to sweet spot. Get 80% of the situations right and the rest, well… get a camera that suits you more.
According to DPR the touchscreen is there
true – but they also state it is a Tilt screen – and by looking at the images it does not seem to be true – so at least on part I think Dpreivew is wrong – I have not seen a single picture or video with it Tilt
I have been getting a mixed signal on the Touch LCD – a commenter on site said it did not have a Touch LCD – however DPreviews says it has a Tilting Touch LCD – so I am confused 🙂 by looking at the pictures it does not seem to be Tilt LCD – but it still might be Touch LCD – I totally agree that Touch LCD with Touch to Focus is so nice and practical – and the GM1 and GM5 and GX7 and GX1 have it – but interestingly the FZ1000 does not – so hopefully DPreview is correct – just still have not seen a pic with the LCD tilting – so I wonder if DPreivew have it right
Well if DPreview is right, I stand corrected.
Agree. Very confusing info about the screen.
FWIW the promo videos did not show any touchscreen functionality. It does “confirm” anything but it doesn’t look good for touch!
Hope that Panasonic makes that hip little grip for the GM5 like they did for the GM1. Its a must!!!
But with battery access please
I’m a little disappointed about the GM5. I hope the next GX will coming with all news features from GH4, LX100 and FZ1000 (4K with no limits, etc…). The GM5 is an GM1 refreshed with an EVF, for some was disappointed about GM1 without EVF. Now, Panasonic did it, but why:
-No 4K (LX100 do 4K)
-No GX7 EVF (LX100 have it)
-No Mic Input (LX100 is a very capable camera video with 4k and EVF built-in but no Mic Input??)
-No LCD tiltable (important for Video also).
-No DFD (LX100 do DFD).
-No stabilizer.
So i will keeping my fantastic GX7 with my Voigtlander 17.5mm. It’s a great combo and i hope Panasonic make my wishes come true with the future GX (GX8?) next year.
I wish:
-better battery
-ibis in video (5-ibis on Olympus body are fantastic in video mode).
-shutter on the grip
-why not more dials like the LX100.
-Mic input.
4k mode with no limit like GH4.
I think that most of your expectations on the GM5 was simply off from the get go. This small camera would never have 4K, tiltable screen, mic input, IBIS, dials, controls, etc. This comes from a GM1 but with a small EVF and that’s it, it was that from the start all along. You are demanding things from the wrong camera, it’s delusional to expect such things from a product that never intended to have such things.
The LX100 is really not big, it’s smaller than an GF1, it must be not impossible to add 4k (even with some limits), a better EVF (even i didn’t try yet the EVF GM5, it seem like a LVF2, same resolution), a tiltable screen also is not impossible (see Sony, Canon, etc), etc… nothing is impossible, maybe GM mk3 😀
I don’t have GM1 b/c of no EVF. Panny didnt throw all the features from LX100 (except the touch screen) into GM5 will help drive down the price faster.
No reason to be disappointed by GM5. Admin’s theory that it’s something that will replace GX7 and GM1 turned up to be wrong. It’s too small to succeed GX7, doesn’t have IBIS or tilt screen. They replaced flash with EVF and refreshed the rest a bit. A OK replacement for the original GM. Whether they’ll kill the GX line is another matter…
i am sure the GM5 is a great camera, i got the GM1 before, i was annoying by the screen when it’s sunny. Now we will see how performs the new GM5 screen, Panasonic said it’s 50% brighter and IPS screen.
???
The only advantage of the GX7 over it is the 2nd curtain and the (very basic) IBIS (ok, the tiltable screen too). No big deal for me, but others might disagree; still it would make much more sense to try to add those in the next iteration, than to resurrect the GX series…
+tiltable EVF
+grip
+onboard flash that can bounce
+better EVF and screen
+1/320s flash sync (and more with non-TTL flashes)
+better battery life
+orientation sensor
Add all of those to next GM and it will be better than GX7. Until then, there’s no contest.
LX100 does not seem to have a tilt screen. Take a look at 2:10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JmK5sCcqlo
If really so, a deal breaker for me.
Wait for the second one next year
My wife (yup, got married yesterday!) fell in love with the red GM5 :). I love how the lx100 looks. Though I would have preferred a 1/8000 sec shutter speed. (I see an ND set button, but I would leave the camera in A mode and add another function to that button. Not a real problem though.)
Congrats, Marco! On getting married, not on the wife falling in love with the GM5. Poor Marco, already a photo widower 🙂
+1 Seems as though the only thing the GM5 is looks….
Jury still out on touchscreen, kept the back dial of the GM1–not sure what’s going on with the LX100 really. Some nice features but also some head-scratchers.
Love is love.. 😉
Congratulations!
I think there is a 1/16000 electronic shutter option it you need.
OT, but congratulation Marco!
Thank you!!!
So let’s get both of it .
The GM5 worth if you don’t owed a GM1 while lx100 is another GEM that is hard to ignore .
Actually she likes both, but she finds the red GM5 really cool 🙂
Congrats Marco! I expect that the GM5 is the one that you will get now 😛 !
Let ‘s see! 🙂 but I think you’re right.. 😉 at least she allows me to save for a Leica Monochrom!
Congrats! And give her a nice wedding gift: a Canon!
🙂 she used to have a DSLR but gave it to her sister. It still sits in its box. She uses my old epl2 or my em5, but I think I’ll buy her this GM5, she saw the GM1 and liked it so much.
Poor wife.
LX100 is a hack of a camera!
GM5 is very expensive and disappointing :(.
Holly cr*p that Panasonic CM1 phone! 1 inch sensor, 4k?
As much as impressive the LX100 is, to me, that CM1 phone is the most practical camera to carry around all the time .
Does the LX100 have an electronic zoom lens? I can see W and T letters around the shutter button.
This picture pretty clearly shows that it lacks a tilting screen. There are no seams between the screen and the rest of the body that would allow it to be pulled out.
http://www.cnet.com/pictures/panasonic-lx100-gets-the-design-right-pictures/4/
LX100 looks great – ticks all the boxes for fans of this genre – but I’m not interested in a non-ILC camera unless it can fit in my pocket, or perhaps has a crazy zoom range like the FZ1000.
The GM5 is a disappointment to me. Looks like a very marginal update of the GM1, and the fact that it doesn’t have DFD is a shame. The focus dial on the top-plate is also a big wasted opportunity – focus could be selected in the menus, that should have been a 2nd command dial! Also, while I was skeptical that IBIS was possible in that body size, it was rumoured, so not having it is a shame. Likewise, giving up the built-in flash in exchange for a built-in EVF is…well, a sideways move. No one wants to carry a flash accessory with them.
The CM1 is definitely the most impressive camera at the show for me, so far. Too bad it will have a very limited release and cost 900 euros! $1200 (at least) imported is too much to ask when I can get a lightly used Lumia 1020 for just $300. Not quite as good, but not too-o-o far off.
At least this Photokina with it’s up-and-down announcements has helped to settle my gear lust temporarily. Nothing out there really does it all for me.
(As an aside, the Canon G7X looks like an amazing pocketable competitor to the RX100 – I would definitely get it instead of the Sony if the lens is any good).
It is a nice upgrade, with a couple of omissions and only a few irritations; just not compelling enough to make me decommission my GM1. Which merely shows how good was the GM1 in the first place.
I really liked the LX100’s design, the controls borrowed from Fuji’s recent cameras is so nice to have, I find it much more intuitive to work that way.
The lack of ND will be big video-wise, on normal day light it will be impossible to use the widest aperture without an ND and still keep the shutter where it has to. I wished it had mic input and I kind of saw that coming, the no tiltable screen is also a let down. I understand that the EVF doesn’t allow much space to have one and why they chose to not feat one, but it will be missed. In the end, they did compromise a bit on the video side to not mess up with the GH4.
I’m disappointed but I do get it.
No ND, it’s true, but at least the ISO goes down to 100 on this. And with 1/16000 electronic shutter, you definitely won’t ever need an ND for non-video use.
We don’t yet know the flash sync speed, but unlikely to be leaf shutter high. I’d love to have a variable ND filter built in for “over powering” the sun with flash outdoors, but at least there are threads for attaching one.
LX100 has excellent specs, lens especially, but: poor grip + fixed screen + no flash = no buy.
Thanks Pana, I’m saving for LX200 and staying with GX7.
And you can return that shutter speed dial to Fuji in the meantime.
Internet is full of this nonsense, people now test ergonomics by eye! What makes even less sense is to complain about it with no hands-on experience and then expect the next model to radically change something you already stated you didn’t like.
If you held several cameras, you’d be able to tell how good new ones are from photos only. This one’s got a meager cosmetic grip, similar to many others (looks like Olympus E-PL1 grip to me), although they could have put a bigger one without compromising overall dimensions.
As for the next generation specs, just take a look at lineup evolution of any manufacturer. We are being spoonfed with features every year which could have been there in the first generation. Take Sony RX100 and its successors as an example. It’s nice of you to be willing to put up with that and fill up their corporate pockets, but I won’t.
Totally disagree with you. The grip looks much more like my GX1, which is small but usable. With a little hotshoe thumb-grip that I added, I regularly use legacy lenses up to 600g. I don’t like to, but I have even hand-held a 300mm legacy prime with that set-up.
You people complain about everything, you want bigger grip, better video, centered evf, flash, weathersealing etc…Well, guess what camera fits that description already ? the GH4…what a bunch of crybabies
I’m guessing you didn’t mean to reply to me on this one…
Fuji doesn’t use shutter speed dial on their entry level cameras, now I see why.
Why?
Who needs the 35-100? Slow aperture, pricey and a small range … better stick with the 40-150mm…
I can see your point – but the 35-100 is compact and pocketable, the 40-150 is not (and, anyway, price apart, why would you choose it over the 14-140?)
Kinda weird that Panasonic Germany isn’t using the commercial that has been shot in Berlin (the “intro by panasonic”). The videos are both pretty well made though.
No words LX100 is a best compact of last 20years
The LX100 looks nearly perfect: I love the style, the aperture ring, shutter speed dial and 3 stop exposure compensation dials. Direct controls on the lens for auto focus and aspect ratio too! I would have loved a twist zoom, but not a deal breaker. No word on flash sync speed, but I’m guessing it will not be X100, high speed leaf shutter style. But removing the PASM dial and having “A” functions on the aperture ring and shutter speed is one of my favorite Fuji style controls. It really makes sense. And Panasonic’s DFD focusing will likely leave even the best focusing Fuji in the dust in low light. But where’s the built in ND filter? At least there are threads to attach one. The only other quibble I can find with the LX100 on paper is that it sounds like that innovative lens cap is an accessory. It should have been included. It will be interesting to see what, if any changes, Leica makes to the camera. A silver and black option, I’d imagine, and a 2x price.
The GM5 also looks like a winner, but (on paper) leaves more obvious room for improvement. It appears that the camera only grew a tiny amount, preserving the GM1’s amazing compact design, while adding an EVF and much better controls. Still, a top dial for auto focus modes seems like a waste — I’d have much preferred exposure compensation, and would prefer the LX100’s shutter speed dial to a PASM (with the rear dial for aperture and aperture A control). The GM5 also leaves out DFD, which is a real shame. And as many have suggested, weather sealing would be a great addition to this camera, as would a tilting LCD.
I can’t wait to try out these two new cameras and hope that Olympus is paying attention and gets some inspiration for the new Pen and hypothetical Trip D lineups.
And Panasonic, please make a long zoom or portrait version of the LX!
remember zoom and too megapixels = bad pictures
Yes, we’ll have to wait and see what quality the zoom produces, but modern zooms have gotten really good, and the lens is the banner feature of the LX100. They’ve put the Leica name on it, so I’m expecting it to deliver.
RE: megapixels: this camera only does 12, so should be low noise. And 12mp, while a little less than I’d like, is still plenty.
Same sensor as GX7 or GH4 so high ISO noise matches.
Which is great
Agreed. This is likely replacing my GM1 (unless I keep that kicking around for more experimental projects).
As for twist zoom, the “control dial” – by default the focus ring – has multiple functions assignable. Focus is default and zoom is one of the other options. It’s not the same as mechanically zooming, but you can definitely twist to zoom if you feel so inclined.
Is this a touch screen LCD? DPReview says it is (twice) but the press release and B&H video don’t mention it. Weird not to have it, but as this screen doesn’t tilt, less useful regardless.
They do (they also say it’s tilting in one spot, and – more accurately – fixed in another) and I haven’t found a definitive answer. I haven’t seen one with a touchscreen, but it’s possible that it’ll be enabled in later firmware. Panasonic’s press release doesn’t talk about the screen (unless I missed it).
Why the hell did they take away 120 slow-mo from the LX100? That’s very disappointing — and strange — considering it’s a machine focused also on video with great 4K recording.
love the controls on the LX100, but why the hell can’t they put the same controls on an ilc mft camera? ok for the aperture they couldn’t do the same, but still at least the rest, or just exchange the aperture with the exposure comp. I love to adjust those values without having to turn on the camera and I love to be able to see those values even when the camera isn’t on.
and I would love a LX100 with a fixed 17/1.4, like digital olympus xa
well I just saw that there is no built in flash, that’s a pity, I’d gladly exchange the viewfinder for a flash!
Looks like the only main possible points of complaint are the lack of a tilting touchscreen and built-in ND filter. Otherwise pretty solid camera indeed.
People should’ve learned by now that no 1st gen camera is ever going to include everything, otherwise there would be no point in releasing a 2nd gen model (see GM1 vs GM5)
Admire Panasonic’s engineering teams that produced all these very attractive and innovative products. CM1 was such a surprise. But the lack of proper marketing/sales channels will not translate them into as big sales as should/could.
One thing I will be very curious to see is the amount of software correction that occurs on jpegs, particularly at wide angles. I imagine this lens requires a lot of it. Very compact lenses usually do.
On the Canon G1X Mk II, you can actually see parts of the lens barrel in the uncorrected raw files! Panasonic can’t escape the laws of physics.
To be clear: this doesn’t mean the camera won’t be brilliant, just that you’ll be relying on software algorithms to correct the necessary compromises in the lens design. That’s one reason the Panasonic 12-35 and Olympus 12-40 are so large: to offer less optical distortion, thereby requiring less (although still some) software correction.
Those two require a lot of corrections, non-corrected lenses is usually better.
Guys, do you think there’s any chance we’ll see a firmware update that will add 120fps video capability?
It happens sometimes, for example with the Sony RX10:
http://www.eoshd.com/2014/08/official-firmware-update-brings-xavc-s-120fps-sony-rx10/
60fps for 4k would be fantastic. Yeah i know i am greedy =)
A geek discussion over the LX100. Once-sided of course, given the presenter. Yup… no touchscreen, no tilty-screen. I still ordered it for the mere fact that I don’t have to buy the big & heavy 12-40mm f/2.8 lens.
http://youtu.be/_XqrU-i1LMc
Two really spectacular cameras! Well done, Panny!
Now I regret getting the XE2 & Touit lenses… No matter how great (or hyped) the image quality is, the Fuji combo is just not as easy to use and ergonomic as Panny’s cameras. And Lumix G prime lenses are top notch – 32 1.8 Touit has super harsh bokeh, never seen on any Lumix G.
What is the IS on the LX100, Power OIS or IBIS or something else? Also, for those who complain the LX100 doesn’t have flash, yes it’s not built in, but at least hot shoes Flash come with the camera FREE!
I for one tend to use the flash alot when there are shadows etc. Isn’t a snap on flash nothing but a pain?
OIS – and it works remarkably well.
Right now I like my GM1 even more- that’s a good thing 🙂
Yeah, I was hoping for the GM1 to drop to 499 with the lens after this announcement, but I have a feeling the 650-700 price point is safe for a while.
I´m not sure that I like the LX100 – what´s wrong with me?
There is only one reason not to like the LX100 – you are already in love with the GM5.
Fixed LCD?
No Touchscreen?
It is a touch screen, but fixed, no tilt. 🙁
No touchscreen im afraid!!!
It has, see DPReview http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-lx100/3
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From Panasonic Web site it is not mentioned Touch screen !
http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/cameras-camcorders/lumix-digital-cameras—point-and-shoot/compact-cameras/dmc-lx100.specs.html
I just read the press release and there is no mention of a touch screen, but DPReview lists it in both articles.
I would be shocked if it’s not touch screen.
no touch
http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/cameras-camcorders/lumix-digital-cameras—point-and-shoot/compact-cameras/dmc-lx100.html
Don´t want to bad mouth it before a proper review is out. Just don´t feel as “sexed up” by it as I expected to be 😉
The problem is that there is absolutely no mystery about it. Although I havn´t seen it in the flesh I almost know exactly what the reviews are going to tell us. I know how it´s iq will be, I know how the world will look through it´s evf, I even can imagine the feel of the body. Only the lens could be a surprise but I doubt it will be any better than mft prime lenses or really pro zooms, it´s just too cheap for such quality.
So, here is my problem: This camera is quiet ordinary. It will get very good test results though but I just don´t care. I already have all the cameras I need and to make me spend more money a camera has to blow my…. well a least my mind.
Uh oh. Even though it says it is touch on BOTH DPReview articles, the B&H video quickly jumps through the LCD and doesn’t mention it and i see that the press release omits mention of touch. Damn! Although, without the tilt, the touch becomes less useful. Still, what an odd omission!
Anyone know if I can use my m43 flashes with this thing?
Of course you can. Olympus flashes will work too.
So where is the GH4 update? And don’t get me started on the supposed E-M1 update…
Gonna be hard to trust this site at all for future rumours from now on…
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You’re the fool who relies on rumors. Why blame the website?
WTF, neither of those cameras have reached even half of their life cycle and you’re already asking for updates ? why don’t you use your time learning photography instead of buying more and more cameras
Does the GM5 or LX100 have face and nearest eye auto focus?
I wish Olympus and Panasonic cameras would tie a metering option to their excellent face detect feature so that I could spot meter as well as focus on a face automatically.
i think GM5 don’t do but LX100 yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5JmK5sCcqlo
Nice video. Nicer if it was shot using the LX100. They don’t credit it as such. Too bad.
Kinda irrelevant since they probably used a GH4, which the LX100 draws a lot from.
Its relevant, since they’re marketing the LX100 as an enthusiast video camera. Agree that the IQ will have things in common with GH4 video, but handling (like the focus by wire and exposure control and stabilization) are all just as important. Missed opportunity to show off the capabilities, I’d say. And perhaps telling that they did not use it.
I’m really blown away by that LX100. My Fuji will be relegated to specialist use.
Which Fuji, what use?
X-Pro1, and I’ll still use it for portraiture, astrophotography and low light landscape
Yeah, the XPro 1 with the 56mm 1.2 still sounds like a clear winner for portraiture and must be great at the other applications you mention. But the LX100 sounds like a great (nearly perfect) walking around camera.
Please Panasonic come out with a lens that is not boring. A couple of hints: a 7mm prime, a weather sealed high quality long zoom.
Would love a 7mm prime.
A bad news on Lx100. NO cinelke-d color profile bad bad!
Ok that LX100 looks quite nice.
Wow. Did the earth just shift on its axis?
I’m realllly confused now…
DPReview says LX100 has touchscreen… other hands-on-reviews listed LX100’s one of the cons as “lack of touch screen.”
Who’s correct?
DPreview is totally wrong – No Touch LCD and no tilt LCD like they stated –
so although I really like the LX100 I personally am disappointed that it does not have Touch LCD and tilt – I also would have preferred a Mode Dial – I have Fuji X’s and I still have to concentrate and think when I am switching from Manual to Shutter Or Aperture or Program mode – to me simpler to just move a Mode Dial – I guess the purists like it the Fuji way – so Panasonic tailoring to the purists with this and of course no Touch LCD – so a big Con – not sure why as the GX7 has it the GM1 GM5 GX1 GH4 GH3 etc have it – Hopefully not a trend as the new FZ1000 does not have it either 🙁
CameraSize has already added the LX-100, Canon G7X, and GM5.
http://camerasize.com/compact/#573,570,569,ha,f
Why is it that the sensor seems bigger to me on the GM5 than the GM1 on camerasize, when they should be the same sensor?
Anyone feel the same?
Does any of 2 cameras look like the LC1 retro? Not at all!
Funny the Panny LX100 is to SLR shooters as what the Sony RX100x is to MFT shooters
How can be 24-75 equivalent with a m43 sensor and a 10.9-34mm lens?
Because it is a cropped m43 sensor due to the multi aspect ratios. The crop factor is not 2.
Yes but the performance is a m43 sensor. Is not fully covered but sensor is a m43 (exactly the same GX7, GH4 sensor). The coverage is 12.3MP that is good very good
So will the performance be slightly worse than the GX7 but not too noticeably?
One of the issues with the GM1 was that the HDMI port only worked for playback. Wonder if this is the case with the GM5 or if it allows monitoring or better yet, clean recording from the HDMI port?
Oh dear…
It`s time 2 buy lx7, or…
24mm f2.8 pancake ?
Does the LX100 have step zoom?
I haven’t seen or heard anything about flash sync speed but Phoblographer claims it is high speed with the leaf shutter! This LX100 just gets better and better, if true.
Usually I prefer the Leica clones, but this time I like the look of the LX100 better than the Leica variant, which looks smooth like the GM5. The only reason I would check out the D-Lux instead would be for the 4K recording, which the LX100 apparently lacks? If the LX100 has 4K, I’ll be buying one soon to replace the EM5 I sold off earlier.
If Panasonic used the same LX100 packaging to give us a 28mm/2.0 or 40mm/1.4 equivalent fixed prime lens model, but with a non retractable lens, that would be smashing, thanks. We’ve waited for the Trip-D for too long!
LX100 has 4k recording
Excellent! Thanks. You just saved me $300.