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Panasonic GF7 gets officially announced!

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Preorders:
Panasonic GF7 in Black at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here) and BHphoto (Click here).
Panasonic GF7 in Pink at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here) and BHphoto (Click here).

Press release:
ePhotozine, Techradar, Imaging Resource, Dpreview, Panasonic Japan, Amateur Photographer, Quesabesde, SystemKameraForum, Photoscala, LeMondeDeLaPhoto.

Previews and hands-on:
Full review at ePhotozine, Preview at Dpreview. Hands-on at Pocketlint. Hands-on at Imaging Resource. Hands-on photos at Photographyblog.

Image samples:
Photographyblog.

Videos:
Introducing Panasonic LUMIX DMC-GF7 (Youtube), New Panasonic LUMIX DMC-GF7 for hands-free selfies (Youtube), Gf7 video by ePhotozine (one and two),

Notes on the camera:
It uses the same GX7 sensor
The hump is for the built-in flash 🙂

Poll:
Read specs and reviews and then tell us…
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GF7 images:

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  1. I think iA button should be swapped with Fn1, pretty sure most people will appreciate to use additional buttons for AF/AE lock or other functions.

  2. This camera looks great! Then you look at the back where you were hoping the hump would have an evf, and nope. Then you see that the camera has two shutter buttons on either side. One for photos, one for selfies. Then you see the screen flips around for easy selfie access. Then you see the selfie advertisements. Then you see why this camera and cameras like the gf7 should burn in hell forever.

      1. Stupid remark, just carry a few spares!
        I don’t get all the snobbish remarks, if a small cam with tilting screen and flash is not for you, move on. I have the GM1 and it does fine with O.I.S. lenses it’s fast and it has a purpose, it has shot fotos I’ve sold! My main camera is E-M1 and E-M5 but I carry the GM1 with the 14mm always anywhere and sometimes it’s on hand when the “big” guns are not ;-). And I bet for normal family pictures this could easily be the main camera. So if you don’t like it STFU and move on.

        1. Keep cool, digifan. I was just saying that the battery is a bit too small to use “power drains” like Power O.I.S. That’s probably one reason why they chose the 12-32 as kit lens. It’s not about liking the camera or not. I’m actually quite fan of the GM-5, and just purchased a 12-32 for my E-M10. All those cameras are perfectly capable and take very good pictures. But you have to admit that battery is an issue : it’s always preferable to have a long lasting battery than spares, especially for a camera like this, intended for (self-)portraits and family shooting…

          1. @AFGNCAAP I have to apologize to you my rant was more against sid lower on about his selfie and OIS remark, I probably scrolled up unnoticed.

    1. Well – Bigger body (easier to hold), better flash (mechanically wise – The achilles heel of the GM1 where it was quite unstable with just one extention arm), better implemented noise reduction / sensor / processing, 60P video, better pricing (with the same quite good 12-32mm lens) and yes – The tilting screen is also nice to have ^^.

      I think it´s a good option – And a good move from Panasonic.

      1. So, it has a built-in pop-up flash, which is essential for a casual, consumer oriented camera.
        And it’s a few hundred bucks cheaper than the GM1 or GM5, so it’s good for a small second or third body.
        I’m not a fan of the dopey selfie screen, but then I’m not the target customer, either.

        Let’s see a GM5 with a 2-axis flippy screen.

  3. From the specifications given the GF7 will have both the mech/electronic shutter as well as the onboard flash from the GM1. Basically a slightly larger GM1 to accomodate a hinged LCD. Also Pany claims the processor and processing has been improved to increase its dynamic range& resolution so may be the best IQ of any m4/3 so far? Since the GF7 appears to be better specd in some respects than the GM1 with upgraded video to HDP60 and claimed sensor improvements, I wonder if Pany will price it between the GM1 and GM5? The lightweight body appears to be metal probably aluminum since all the models are basically silver with only the addon cladding colored but could be same magnesium alloy as the GM.

    1. Why speculate on the pricing? You can preorder the GF7 at B&H right now. GF7 is $599 right now, GM1 being $747 and GM5 being $897.

        1. That’s because that camera has been around for a while now. It was $749 when it first arrived on the market. And if you can find the GM1 for $499 new (which it has been at times this year), that means the GF7 will probably be more like $399 new when the discounts start kicking in. And that’s a pretty attractive price for a top quality sensor camera.

  4. cool cam! with IBIS it would almost be perfect…
    Olympus watch some features from Panasonic! -> Panorama, Flash, …
    (no one has to use this but pls give it to us!)

    1. Panasonic has to sell lenses with OIS, so no, there’s no IBIS. There won’t be IBIS in most Pana cams just for that simple, economic reason. Sorry for you. Maybe you should consider Olympus, then… 😉

  5. I really don’t like that hump. It looks like a placeholder someone put in during design when they couldn’t figure out what to do with that space… and then didn’t bother to revisit it before production

  6. I think the GM5 looked so much better, plus the EVF and the Hotshoe. I don’t see the point of getting the GF7. Unless the GF7 is a lot cheaper or people who really need selfie 🙂

    1. GM5 is just too expensive (about double the price of the GM1). Just out of range / not useful (even the LX100 is way cheaper – With better features like DFD, internal 4K, better fixed lens, better EVF and more direct control options ^^).

      The GF7 is somewhere around the GM1 (maybe even a tack cheaper). At that price point (WITH the excellent 12-32mm) it´s a bargain.

  7. Провальная камера. У Олимпуса таких уже полно. Ничего нового не добавили.

  8. Ok now there is a small gm1 with fixed LCD, the gm5 with an added evf and now the same camera with a flip up screen…. And still no upgrade option for someone wanting more controls. Besides the big and expensive gh4.

    Release the Gx8!!!!!!!!!

  9. What a mess Panasonic is.

    They had such a winner and were on track with the GF1/G1/GH1 with some killer lenses. What happened? They killed the GF line with the GF2 and for a reason only God knows they persisted along the same crap line till the GF6

    Ok the GX1 redeemed them for a while and then what? Nothing till the GX7. Too late, though the integrated VF was very welcome.

    GH series has been great. No argument there though the size increase from 3 to 4 was, well, awkward.

    The G series….ok, i will give the G series a pass, though that’s exactly what most people do….just pass on the G series altogether. I mean, why would you bother,

    But the GF/GX line….wtf? Then they bring the GM1. Now that was a beauty and quickly replace it with…….the more expensive GM5. At the same time bring out a fixed lens pocketable camera that isn’t pocketable that takes sales directly from your other lines and the real money earner……lenses.

    And now the GF7.

    But, im just some random internet person, they know they know better than me.

    1. I think you are spot on. Panasonic can make excellent camera’s, but their lineup is completely vision-less and illogical.
      You cannot create a customer base with that. the only exception is the GH series that has stayed true to it’s original format(superior video, good still’s camera).

    2. The size increase (welcome as it allowed better ergonomics and larger battery) was from 2 to 3, not 3 to 4; the latter two even share the same grip.

    3. I suspect that cameras like this will sell far more than ‘enthusiast’ models aimed at the audience on here.
      If it looks nice (in the eyes of the target audience), has a gimmick and is not too expensive it will probably sell reasonably well.

      1. At $600, I bet you are wrong. This camera is designed for casual shooters that want something better than their iPhone that is also compact. The thing is, I highly doubt most want to drop that kind of scratch on a camera to get that. There are better options for this target market at this current price. Hell, it costs as much as a flagship smartphone off contract.

  10. This is an ASIA-centric selfie cam but I am not impressed with Panasonics camera strategy -too many similar camera and pricing too high; I expect this will cost more than the GX7 which has been a bargain for ages now. I would like to see a GH5 this year and a GX8 not more tiny non-pocketable cams

      1. Every camera has to be for the serious enthusiast, encrusted with dials and programmable function keys,don’t uh.

        1. Right, no one here is suggesting that be the case. But at $600, it may seem reasonable to have an extra inset control wheel on the back, and a screen that can actually tilt in a few different ways so you can have more flexibility instead of just a screen that is only flexible for taking selfies. I like the look of this camera compared to the other GF series, but its lacking functionality to make up for the $600.

  11. Hahaha!!

    And you guys wondered what the hump is for!
    Its for the selfie screen hinge! LOL!

    And some thought E-M5 hump was silly. 😛 😛

  12. I simply consider it to be a “GM 3”. I think Panasonic’s naming scheme is a mess anyway.
    As a GM 3 this thing makes sense for Panasonic:

    GM 1: Super-tiny, no EVF, no tilting screen.
    “GM 3”: Still tiny, adds tilting screen.
    GM 5: Tiny, adds EVF, hotshoe, rear thumb wheel – the enthusiast model

    Three models that emphasize the micro in m4/3. As the tiny models and the 4K monsters/video centric models were the most successful for Panasonic: Stay on this road an leave the stills enthusiast to Olympus.
    I can see a strategy here.

    1. Exactly what I think, too. But they also should consider lowering their prices a bit, esp. on the “tiny cams” market… E-PL7 is a already a good and lower-priced alternative, with IBIS (but a weird tilting screen, I admit).
      However, an interchangeable camera to take selfies is a bit odd to me. You’re better off with a stylish compact.

    2. To leave the majority of the business (stills photographers) behind, looks as a silly strategy for me. I would rather take a selfie with my cell phone instead of this camera.

      The mentioned product categories where “most successfull” for Panasonic, because they have nothing else to offer.

      Was there any Panasonic in the recently published and discussed Flickr top ten mirrorless ranking? Nope!

  13. Beautiful camera. Very smart design. The hump has build in flash and mount for LCD screen.
    I think they will sell a lot of them. Panasonic rocks. And sensor seems to be improved over the previous version.
    Does anybody know when Panasonic introduce camera with splitter?

    1. I’ve heard the rumors that Leica is already designing the red dot for this camera.
      After red dot is glued on the camera, and $1000 is added to the price, Leica would “introduce” “new” retro camera with lens renamed to Varigon Tylet.
      Sorry could not resist.

  14. The GF series is notorious for 1080 video being in fact 720 in terms of real resolution. Will this one be different?
    Personally I would buy a small camera but I need AE Lock to function during recording video which Panasonic implemented in none of it’s cameras so far. If they care to change it in this baby, I’ll buy.

    1. Are you saying it’s 720p scaled up? or it’s blurry? or that the sensor can’t actually capture 1080p? If it captures 16 megapixels then 1080p is not a problem. It would have to be because of limited data speed if it wasn’t actually 1080p being transferred to the chip.

      1. I don’t know what’s behind it, is it some technical limitation or mere marketing decision, is it upscaled or just blurry, but the fact is that if you compare any of existing GF cameras next to GH series the former are not even close to the apparent resolution of 1080 in GH.The GF1 officially supported only 720, they added 1080 support in some later models of GF series, but visually it’s all the same up to date. Check youtube tests and see for yourself.

        1. GF1 to 6, GX1 and all G models except G6 – they all have this problem, their real resolution is around 720 even if they record 1080.

        2. well alright. Maybe the limit is the hardware, so they have to use a bad bitrate in order to write all that data fast enough, which will no doubt affect image sharpness.

  15. This seems to be essentially a GM1 (in terms of specifications, but probably with less manual controls) minus the miniaturisation costs. Nothing exciting, but, as the only entry level offering after the demise of the PM2, it covers a gap in the m4/3 ecosystem and at the same time it allows for economies of scale in the GM range, through recycling of some innovative technologies, such as the servo-controlled single curtain shutter, which hopefully would facilitate more R&D towards an improved version of it.

    1. Entry level at $600? E-PL7 is at exactly the same price (with kit lens, $100 cheaper without). True entry level is Sony a3000, with EVF and $400 MSRP (quickly sold at $300).

  16. That camera is ergonomically a nightmare. No wheel to change aperture or shutter speed on the top, but a awkward thumb wheel integrated in the 4 way element. A design I thought the manufacturers would get rid of. Strange also that apparently the screen can’t tilt downwards.

    Panasonic’s camera bodies get worse.

    1. Well, the GM1 and GM5 have no wheels either. It’s not like they have no wheels on any models, it’s just that they’re selecting how to implement controls on certain models. I’m perfectly happy using my GM1 and my GH4 side by side, understanding the compromise in the GM1 because it’s so tiny. It’s still usable, though it takes some practice to master the controls (or lack of them).

      1. Well, that is exactly the reason, why I don’t like the GM1 as well. Over miniaturized, bad control layout, GM5 finder tunnel vision.

        Contrary, Olympus has redesigned its E-PL camera line ergonomically to a level, that is really usable. Drawbacks at Panasonic, improvements with Olympus (and, yes, also the E-PL7 takes selfies.)

          1. There’s no talking sense to an Olympus Fanboy. GM series is small for a reason. Someone interested in this camera is not menu diving or has any need for dials to adjust aperture or shutter speed.

          2. That is why they use their phone. This line of product is like a brontosaurus. long in the neck as well as tooth.

          3. Not True! A GM1 with 20mm is a tiny tiny camera that will take awesome pictures. WAY WAY better than any smart-phone-camera thingy.

            If Panasonic sell enough to make it worthwhile is another question. But the little GM1 is awesome! for what it is!

          4. Agreed. the GM1 is my “throw-in-the-pocket-and-go” camera for when I want the option to take a great photo without lugging my camera bag and GH4 around. The GM1 will take excellent photos once you’re familiar with it. Will outdo any smartphone… well.. the CM1 might outdo it but even I have a pain-limit when it comes to ergonomics – it’s still a phone not a camera. I realize the best camera is the one you have on you, and that’s why I have a GM1. It’ll (almost) always be in my pocket.

          5. Didn’t say otherwise. I just meant that anyone that is happy with their basic phone with lack of buttons etc and takes selfies…in general, isn’t shopping for a camera. Let’s be realistic.

        1. never noticed, was too busy noticing the EVF 🙂 well, that’s handy I suppose, but I still don’t miss it on the GM1 because I have my menus and shortcuts sorted out. The dial works as a wheel, works OK too, once you get the hang of it. I was accidentally clicking buttons to begin with, like every single reviewer has bitched about, but after only 2-3 days I was over that. Good ergonomics require some room, but practice has proven that the GM1 is very usable.

    2. A nightmare he says…

      Kinda like the Olympus camera, with the screen that tilts only DOWNWARDS? Where you can’t even use a tripod, if you wanted?

      Pathetic Fanboy, hating on a camera you wouldn’t even purchase, for the simple fact of a name on the front. Not to mention, are you even INTERESTED in a SELFIE camera?

      Are you?

      1. Well, I guess you talk about EPL7? That screen tilts 180 degrees down, correct, but also 80 degrees up, meaning you can also use it to shoot from the hip. So, no, it does not only tilt downwards, no matter how much you wish for this so you can bash a brand/camera for no particular reason. Get you facts straight.

  17. Like Porsche selling SUVs so that they can stay in business and still offer a 911 GT3 I see nothing wrong with Panasonic and Olympus selling selfie cameras so they can keep producing GH4s and E-M1s

      1. There is a very large market for “selfie” cameras in Asia. Target demographic is young girls in teens and twenties.

          1. Tweenties: the ages from 20 to 29 (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/twenties) it’s a defined demographic with a growing group of instagram/pinterest types that want to move beyond their iPhone. For them a camera like this makes perfect sense.

            In fact I think the ability to flip the screen to face the person in front of the camera either by rotating out as on many video cameras or flipping up/down like this is a very useful feature. I think gear heads tend to discount this feature only out of snobbery.

          2. Sorry, I was WTFing at the sad old man who thinks that women in their twenties qualify as “young girls.”

    1. Its funny how ideas form part of the zeitgeist. People have always had pictures taken of themselves at places/parties. Just now older people shake their head and there’s a derogatory term made up for it. It’s just easier in the digital age. I’m just waiting for the S&Pselfies crowd – the spray n pray selfie that use a high speed 30fps burst for their selfie. There’s another one for you to shake your head at.

  18. The same old sensor, no OSPDAF, no even DFD, short zoom without tele end… how are they going to compete at $600 with the likes of a5100 and NX3300, or even RX100? It has to come down to $200 in no time to sell… Their own GF6 is already $300 on eBay, and a better camera (can put the screen down, much bigger battery, NFC, more useful tele end of the kit lens).

    1. They won’t. Because this camera isn’t intended to compete against those. That’s not the same targeted audience.

      1. Huh? It is exactly the same class in terms of size, controls and price. Except it loses to them in performance and image quality.

        1. It’s target are young people who want to take selfies. Not really photography enthusiasts like the RX100 targeted audience. Longer zoom makes no sense for selfies + is bigger (or PowerOIS, meaning battery drain). Pana won’t stick an all-new sensor in an entry-level camera, that’s easy to understand. Specific Af techs, for taking selfies, are not needed thus are extra-costs. But I agree with you on this point : it’s too expensive for what it is. But hard to make it at 300 $, since it’s the price of the lens alone…

          1. The Pana has OIS too, just like Sony and Samsung. And I was writing about the upcoming NX3300 with which is camera is going to directly compete, not the previous NX3000 model.

          2. POWER OIS and powerzoom are two completely separate and independent features. For example, Panasonic Lumix G Vario 14-140mm F3.5-5.6 ASPH lens has POWER OIS (which is simply Panasonic’s OIS in more expensive lenses) but does not have powerzoom.

          3. You must be joking about the $300 lens alone. No matter what they want for it, it is a $50 lens.

          4. They ask $600 for that kit, it does not mean they will be able to find enough idiots to actually buy it at this price. They could ask $1M as well, it does not mean it is a market price for this thing.

          5. You can call it a $50 lens, but used copies sell on eBay all day for $200. So it’s at least a $200 lens…

          6. There are just too few of them to sell “all day”. All f/3.5-5.6 kit lenses sell for $50 or so, and that is their price in the kits.

          7. Even the first generation ASPH plastic-mount Panasonic 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 kit lens sells for $100 on average on eBay.

            I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to prove with your odd misinformation?

          8. Here is Panasonic GF6+14-42, $350:

            http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-GF6KK-Mirrorless-Compact-System/dp/B00C97ZZ4S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421846727&sr=8-1&keywords=panasonic+gf6

            Here is Panasonic GF6 body only, $390:

            http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00EA628O6/ref=sr_1_5_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1421846727&sr=8-5&keywords=panasonic+gf6&condition=new

            Somehow the lens costs $-40. 🙂

            Seriously, check other similar kits. New E-PL5 body $499, with 14-42 II R it is $449. $-50.

            Here is what they sell for on eBay:

            http://www.ebay.com/itm/Olympus-14-42mm-1-3-5-5-6-II-MSC-Auto-Also-for-Panasonic-Mirrorless-/191481231552?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item2c952bb8c0

            $51. Very few even try to sell them, as there is little point after delivery, eBay and paypal fees.

          9. You can’t compare prices of lenses bundled with bodies. By that logic, since I can get a new X-E1 with the 18-55 2.8-4 for $699 CDN, either the lens or the body is worth literally nothing.

            Also, Olympus kit lenses are worth less than Panasonic ones because they don’t have OIS and so are only worth using on Olympus bodies. Panasonic kit lenses are usable and decent on any M4/3 body.

          10. Yes I can and I do. No maker will sell the lenses with bodies at loss, proving that even $50 bundled price is more than their cost.

          11. Yes, poor Pana camera owners (with partial exception of GX7 owners) have to pay more or suffer handshake blur because their image stabilization is in the wrong place. And no, even OIS-equipped lenses don’t stabilize 5 axis.

        2. Yeah, correction : RX100 isn’t the same targeted audience. A5100 and NX3000 are, indeed. But these come with an horrid zoom and their lens lineup is a pity. Then, it’s also a metter of ergonomics and personal preferences, but I bet this camera will sell well.

        3. Same class indeed. Sony has a much better sensor(although the sensor seems to perform well in the first tests), Panasonic has a much better kit lens. Sony has a better grip, but is made of recycled 1990’s car dashboard plastic.
          Matter of personal preference. I would but another camera for that money, but I’m not the target audience.
          Thin that most people buying these camera would be better of with premium compact camera’s anyway.

    2. Sensor is quite new, when you compare it to the REALLY OLD sensor Olympus is using on thier latest camera. This camera may have better dynamic range than the new EM5.

          1. And WHAT is the difference again? Resolution and noise characteristics are the same. It would be terribly strange if Pana wasted resources making a new sensor which is just like the old one, instead of competing with 20 and 24mpix competitors. Don’t believe it for a second.

  19. I was hoping for a GM-sized camera with a tiltable screen – I need this for video. Now I got my kind of tiltable screen – but they cancelled the manual video mode? WTF!

  20. Oh, a selfie shutter release button for righ handed people. Not my kind of camera, but that shows real selfie-commitment. The 12-32 seem reasonable as well, cant zoom to mutch at a meters distance, and all very compact.

        1. Ok, sorry for misunderstanding. I agree that 12mm at the wide end is way better for selfies than 14mm like their previous kits.

    1. It seems like Panasonic is going for a business model of incremental updates at premium prices. The consumer will need to wait 2-3 years to get a final product camera at least for the GM size

      1. Nah, the trouble is that the DOF is too shallow (and it’s a bit underexposed, I guess). Makes her look weird because her hair is soft and blurry instead of sharp. Should have stopped down the shot a lot more.

  21. This update along with the GM5 makes me worried about the GX8. My guess is there won’t be a proper update for the GX series at least for another 2 models. Panasonic is releasing incremental updates now (add one thing, break something else).

    1. I felt the same way, but in the end realized that the GX7 was worth getting anyway (especially at the firesale prices). The only thing that really bothers me about it is the lack of Auto ISO in M mode. Besides that, it still stands up very well next to the E-M1, A6000, X-E2, NX300, etc…

      A GX8 would be nice, but it’s no longer something I’m pining after.

      1. They should have made the GX7 screen a swiveling one. EM5 II has it, and it’s not enough that Olympus is the more popular M43 camera.

  22. Well we had the GF1 then long wait GX1 long wait then GX7 if you want a enthusiast Panasonic camera you might have to wait for the GX13 due end 2016

  23. No one ever seems to mention wanting a G6 successor, why is that? I was tempted by the G6 14-140 bundle, but 2010 sensor technology in it is not something I look forward to. (it seems to have the GH2 sensor). I would love to have a G7 14-140 lens kit with a GH4 sensor in it, without all the GH4 video features and at a reasonable price.

    1. I see the G6 had bad sales, but no wonder with that old sensor tech (the G6 came out in 2013, the sensor was from 2010).

  24. I don’t understand all the stuckupness and the whinging. If you want a serious camera, this is the wrong system. Wasn’t that clear already?

          1. Angry cunnt huh? Why don’t you try a hobby to calm down? I hear photography is great.

  25. Not for me, but at least Panasonic (unlike Olympus) got the flip screen right. You can take selfies AND set the camera on a table top or tripod if you choose.

  26. Panasonic’s last 2 cameras…….
    A fixed lens enthusiasts camera, and, an interchangeable lens camera aimed at the “toy” crowd.

  27. Selfie Camera is sorta an Oxymoron. The best selling Selfie Camera, isn’t a camera, it’s a Smart-Phone. If Panasonic wants me to buy a GF, they need to give me a better reason !

    BTW back-in-the-day Self Portraits were framed by using the reflection from the front of the lens, No Flip Screen needed.

  28. Why are people comparing a brand new camera’s price with cameras that have been out for several months? This camera won’t be $599 forever.

    1. A classic mistake that people keep making. They don’t realize that if new products were to compete with older products on price, then each new product generation would have a lower and lower price until all products would be practically free!

  29. How come Japanese brands who produces their own phones use Iphone in their advertisements? Sony have done it before, and now Panasonic are doing it??

    And the funniest thing is that both Sony and Panasonic make BETTER phones than Iphone, so where’s the logic? Isnt there any communication between the camera and smartphone divisions?

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