Specs and Preorders:
G6 at Amazon (Click here), BHphoto (Click here) and at Wex UK (Click here).
14-140mm lens at Amazon (Click here), BHphoto (Click here) and at Wex UK (Click here).
LF1 at Amazon (Click here), BHphoto (Click here) and at WexUK (Click here).
Previews and reviews:
G6 Hands-on at Dpreview, SmallCameraBigPicture, Techradar, Trustedreviews, Expertreviews, Photographyblog, Whatdigitalcamera, ePhotozine, Hybridcams (French) and official page at Panasonic.
LF1 hands-on photos at Photographyblog, Quesabesde (Spanish),
Image samples:
G6 at Panasonic website, Techradar.
Videos:
First Look Preview by Whatdigitalcamera, official shooting video by Panasonic, Italian presentation, Italian unboxing,
What’s hot:
The G6 gains considerably improved movie capabilities, including full exposure control, an external mic socket and the sensor from the GH2. It also adds the NFC-aided Wi-Fi for simple remote control and image download that we first saw in the GF6. it has the same GH2 sensor, albeit without that model’s multi-aspect feature. (Source: Dpreview).
14-140mm lens is smaller, lighter, less-expensive alternative to the original G Vario HD 14-140mm F4.0-5.8 ASPH Mega OIS. The latest version features three aspheric and two ED elements and an internal focus design with linear stepper motors to make the most of the faster focus processing of the latest Micro Four Thirds bodies (Source: Dpreview).
The LF1 marries the sensor from the LX7 to a longer, slower lens (but longer zoom range) and adds an electronic viewfinder (Source: Dpreview).
Official press release:
G6 press text at Dpreview, Pocket Lint, Cnet, Fotopolis (Polish), Imaging Resource, SystemKameraForum (German), Photoscala (German), DSLRmagazine (Spanish), Quesabesde (Spanish).
LF1 press test at Dpreview, Cnet, Dpnow, Whatdigitalcamera, ePhotozine, SystemKameraForum (German), Photoscala (German), DSLRmagazine (Spanish), Quesabesde (Spanish).
14-140mm press text at Dpreview, ePhotozine, Photoscala (German), DSLRmagazine (Spanish), Quesabesde (Spanish).
Poll:
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250 Responses
wow! kinda fat
Guy i know why you like it, because it looks like a leica r 9 or something in this way
No, lol didn’t say phat….he said fat…
Some of those sites have the new 14-140mm attached to the G6. Looks a little smaller than the original.
G6 has focus peaking! 14-140mm is super compact. Read:
http://asia.cnet.com/product/panasonic-lumix-dmc-g6-46729008.htm
Comparing the “old” (2009) 14-140 and the new:
Length — drops from 84 to 75mm (10% shorter)
Diameter — drops from 70 to 67mm
Min. focus — drops from 0.5 to 0.3 m
Weight — drops from 460 to 265 gm (42% reduction in weight!)
And it comes with a hood (ahem… listening, Olympus?). If the optics are any good, this could be a really handy travel lens.
and price is down too 🙂
And what is the price?
According to ephotozine.com, £599 list in the UK. Can’t find any (list or street) prices for other markets.
Damn, way to perfect a superzoom. Go Panny go.
Will take a while for the price to be actually lower though, if at all. Current price for the old 14-140 is €549 in NL. Or £575 says Amazon UK.
The list price for the new 14-140mm in the US is $699.
If the image quality is markedly improved it might be worth selling my original 14-140mm. I only really use it as a travel lens, but dropping the size and weight would be a very good thing.
It is also a less complex lens with fewer elements. This helped with the weight but may struggle to match the optical quality of the original.
Yes this is what I want to know. How does it compare optically to the original. Something tells me it will be the same story as with the 14-45 update to the 14-42. Hopefully I’m wrong, as I would gladly sell my old version for a smaller optically better lens.
MTF charts for both the new and old 14-140 lenses are up on the Panasonic pages:
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/lens/g_vario_14_140.html
I’m not an expert at these charts, but the new lens looks no worse overall than the previous model, and I think it looks to resolve better in the corners, particularly at the wide end. Add being brighter, lighter and cheaper, looks OK to me!
Uberzone…perhaps you are seeing double, as you are appearing double, if so there is probably nothing wrong with any of your lenses?
Yes this is what I want to know. How does it compare optically to the original. Something tells me it will be the same story as with the 14-45 update to the 14-42. Hopefully I’m wrong, as I would gladly sell my old version for a smaller optically better lens.
Actually, if you believe the Panasonic MTF charts, the new lens should be as good or better than its predecessor — at least when it comes to contrast and perceived sharpness (don’t know about vignetting). Here’s the old lens’ page:
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/lens/g_vario_hd_14_140.html
…and the new one’s:
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/lens/g_vario_14_140.html
The new lens looks better at the corners but in the middle 1/3 of the lens the old one looks slightly better for both sharpness and contrast.
A new camera but with a previous generation sensor? Half measures and warmed over previous generation technology is what I expect from Panasonic these days and that’s just not sexy enough for me 🙁
+1
It’s too bad. I wish Panasonic would look at what Olympus did with its most recent round of cameras after finally getting a great sensor. Top to bottom, same great image quality.
I really like how the G6 looks, especially in white. Reminds me of some of the later Leica R designs in a way.
Oh well.
I’ve been waiting for this camera to come out as the GH3 is too fat and DSLR sized for me but I will not be buying previous generation warmed over Panny tech… not when other companies are genuinely trying. It looks like Sony is the way forward for me now, leading edge sensor and ISO 100 available.
OK, then by the Sony then. That’s fine.
Their latest NEX start at ISO 200 btw
There is nothing wrong with the GH2 sensor (I have that camera). And, apparently, Pany has tweaked that sensor some more before placing it into the G6. It also gets the video quality of the GH2. Sounds like a winner to me.
Even though the sensor in the G6 is not multi-aspect, it retains the other characteristics of the GH2 sensor.
And, yes, I also own an E-M5. But the GH2 sensor is still darn good.
“There is nothing wrong with the GH2 sensor…”
But it isn’t top of the line anymore is it?
If you already have a GH2 it’ll continue to be a nice camera but if looking to buy a new camera today why would I buy a camera with tech from a few years ago when other manufacturers are doing more to push image quality on?
AGAIN: OK, then buy your Sony then. That’s fine.
That you wrong,Sony don’t give new tech sensor.
caparison : GF1-GF5 ~ NEX3/NEX5
G3/GX1 ~ NEX5N and OMD/GH3~NEX7.
and you see NEX-F3/NEX-3N/NEX-5N/NEX-5R/NEX-6 (5r & 6 plus pdaf not image quality).
but Large Sony APS sensor better than M4/3 because of Size. Today sony has no innovation sensor tech (to mirrorless) .
Sorry i mistake,repaired
NEX-F3/NEX-3N/NEX-5N/NEX-5R/NEX-6 (5r & 6 plus pdaf not image quality) is still use same all sensor.
why Sony still has no new Sensor to NEX ,but you think they are very exciting?
why Panni still use GH2 Sensor in G5/G6 ,but you think they are so boring ?
Ha Ha Ha,
Because in the case of Sony, there is not better sensor out there. So you get the best (bar the NEX3s). I have Gh2 and EPl5 and the EPl5 is clearly better, something that would also be very nice in video as it is the DR and colours that stand out. this is really, really too bad.
And … since when does Sony produce cameras with m4/3 mount?
since they provide the GH3/OM-D sensor…
proof?
The thing is if you want the GH2 now you can only buy it used, and the image quality (at least in video, which is what I do) is amazing.
If the G6 can pair it in image quality and even improves upon that of the GH2 (and adds a 3.5mm mic input and peaking!!) at a lower price, that’s wonderful if you ask me. No need for “top of the line” just for the sake of it.
Agree!!!
+1
Why does it have to be top of the line? And who says that because something is older it isn’t any good any more. YOU need to get out and actually shoot with one of your “older” cameras, and appreciate what it can do. Or are you not a decent photographer? The photos I get now with the GH2 are still competitive with other cameras. And that is why placing it into the G6 is a good thing. For that matter, I am still amazed by the IQ I get with my “older” E-PL1 or E-5 or E-620 or … And you should see what a photo looks like coming from that “ancient” Pany LC1, with that “out-of-date” 5mp 2/3″ Sony sensor. You’d be hard-pressed to label it “old” technology.
Get it? If you don’t then you are hopeless.
If buying new why not buy “top of the line”? Why buy Panasonics warmed over technology?
Choice is a good thing. If you’re happy with the G6 you are free to buy it just as I’m free to look elsewhere.
What we don’t need is a load of shrieking fan boys who can’t accept that others may not be happy enough with this camera to buy it.
You want top of the line? Get GH3 instead. Stop all the whine! Panasonic try to give their customers options with different price category and market.
I’d buy GH3 immediately if it wasn’t so bulky. No matter of price.
+1
You look like a big guy. A bigger camera will become you better! 😉
@kesztio
The GH3 isn’t bulky it’s the right size for its target market and its feature set. Its aimed at users that like/need to change the controls often/quickly….
+1. People need to stfu regarding the GH3’s size. You don’t like the size? Don’t diss on it. Its target market wanted it to be BIGGER, with more buttons, more features, and a better BATTERY life. Get an OMD if you like its size and stop whining about Panasonic’s decision regarding the GH3’s size. IMHO IT’S A BRILLIANT DECISION because it tempts the Canon-obsessed video crowd with a camera that is half the weight, half the price, but has very competitive video options. People need to stop whining. Jeez.
Well it’s $400 cheaper than what I payed for my GH2, and it has some upgrades as well. If you can’t afford a GH3, then the G6 looks like a bargain. Also, five programmable function buttons! For the price, this looks like a very good camera.
There is nothing *wrong* with the GH2 sensor…but being honest, it is not *great* either. I had that camera, and now have an E-M5. For stills its a night and day difference. The E-M5 has a beautiful output, images jump at you right out of camera, whereas the GH2 images always required a fair amount of post processing to look right. On top of that, i always felt there was something odd in Panasonic colours, can’t describe it entirely, like a magenta cast of sorts. Anyway. Just my 2 cents.
I don’t care about neither Olympus or Panasonic’s colors. When I am lazy, I auto-everything from lightroom in a few mouse clicks and get Adobe’s colors.
You buy this years car. It has last years engine, or the year before wheels. Or a 10 year old dipstick and 5 year old pistons.
Even worse, 3 year old climate control with new knobs that are exactly the same as the competitions new knobs.
Just like the old ones were the same as the competitions for the last 10 years.
Nice to see that the LF1 has not got the scroll wheel on the back but sad to see that it is still on the G6.
I’ve never got on with that scroll wheel. I sometimes accidentaly press it in and end up adjusting exposure compensation instead of aperture.
@onlyme
You have to a lot of effort in to “accidentally” press the scroll wheel… It’s actually a great time saver and very convenient 🙂
I see that the base ISO has risen to 160.
This move away from ISO 100 irritates me as I like shooting with wide aperture lenses and hate messing about with ND’s. As the cameras max shutter speed is 1/4000 and ISO 100 is no longer available messing about with ND’s will be even more of a requirement.
Warmed over previous generation tech sensor and no ISO 100 mean this camera isn’t for me.
YET AGAIN: OK, then buy your Sony then. That’s fine.
Are you insane? Or just working for Panny as an internet forum poster? Biggest loser I’ve come across in years.
+1000 BOTH insane AND a Panny rep.
+1000x1000x1000
+1 🙂
sooo…you dont need an ND filter for ISO 100 but you do at 160?
A higher base ISO makes ND use more likely, yes. Perhaps you only use slow lenses or shoot at f4 and smaller and if so this probably will not be an issue but try shooting at f0.95 to f1.8 in good light and an ND may be needed to keep the shutter speed below 1/4000.
Jesus, you fan buys just can’t accept any actual discussion or critisism of camera specs can you?
OK. How do you like this… This camera is so WoW! Great! I’m gonna buy two!
That has to be the dumbest thing I’ve heard.
heres your logic:
ISO 100= no need for ND at f.95
ISO 160 (2/3s OF A STOP)= needs a strong ND filter
Go read about base ISO it don’t mean nds all over.
So what are you saying?
Troll Harder.
II’m not a troll. I use a Canon 5D and a Panasonic G1.
I was actually looking forward to this camera but the Nex looks a better path for me at this moment.
Obviously expressing an opinion and dsappointment at this cameras spec isn’t allowed here without being called a troll by a bunch of childish fan boys.
Because you think iso 160 is too high compared to iso 100.
He’s a troll in denial… Honestly, a 60 ISO difference? Seriously?
We’re done here.
I don’t think the complaint is totally invalid. I moved from a GF1 with 100iso at the base to the Oly OM-D with 200, and I do find that I have to work around that with filters if I want to shoot a prime wide-open in bright daylight. Some folks like to shoot wide open in the daytime. But then again, I’m the kinda guy that gets excited when a camera has an option to extend the iso to 50. 😛
Base iso and the lowest iso available are not the same thing. For many modern cameras the base iso is 200 and any lower values are ‘extended’. For those extended iso values you can also simply shoot at 200 resulting in an overexposed picture, and then correct exposure in pp. That is in fact the exact thing those extended iso levels are doing.
For video those low extended iso levels are much more useful, but for stills? If you think they are a better solution then a nd filter you are technically wrong (unless you consider reducing dr an improvement), the only advantage for stills is convenience.
LF1 doesn’t AVCHD 2.0 1080p@60fps.
LF1 doesn’t support 5axis stabilization.
Why?!
Because it is not an upper end camera, and Pany does not have rights to the Olympus 5-axis technology. That is not really a concern, or need, for this camera.
I wish I had 5-axis stabilozation.
The LF1 has the EVF. If it just had a larger sensor – 2/3″ or 1″ – it would be a killer cam. My classic LC1 has an EVF and 2/3″ sensor (only 5 mp but you wouldn’t know it).
G6 would be bundeled with 12-35mm f/2.8 for a reasonable price!
reasonable price like what almost same as GH3 with same lense ? what is the good alternative for the 12-35mm f/2.8 fixed primes without any stabilization IBIS ?!
I really wish olympus had a budge-priced camera with a built-in EVF, styled like dSLR.
Or hell, I wish they just had a new dSLR. I love their JPG engine, but I really would like a
camera with a grip. OMD is too expensive and as a result, I am still using E-510.
+1
I’ve always used Panasonic as a mirrorless cam. Well..G1 and GH2. Liked them both a lot. GH3, GF6 and G6 are fine cams, but I think Panasonic (like some other companies) could use some crowd sourcing to get the camera right. The strenght of the G1 was that it addressed some points a lot of DSLR photogs had. Namely the cams were too big. it was not aimed at PS shooters i think, but may be some bridge cam shooters.
Now to me it seems they have lost this rather critical group out of sight. The sensor falling short in two ways: performance and also the lack of PDAF on sensor. May be the last thing is not so bad because currently, only the V1/V2 have got that one right.
They also fall short simply compared to the competition. Olympus but also the new generaion Nikons, although a lot bigger now really have much better IQ. Size and weight are important, but there is the OMD or if it is not that important, D3200 or D5200…
Yes you are right man im still using my old e420 and wait for an new one but olympus is still sleeping and forgot about us as solid customer who dont want buy a pen with an optional viewfinder. Optional mean we want more money!!!
Guys just look at the prices what the hell happens! I have got my E420 just only for 350EUR, i mean this is a solid camera with all things what you need for poor man, but now olympus is on new trip, they sell you cameras like pens for high prices and all stuff what you need is optional.
And the other kind of way you can choice with the omd cost to much money so what the hell is going on???
Im very sad and angry about this company policy.
Too expensive? The price now is around 30% lower than what a GH3 cost and what the OMD originally cost.
dd if you are still using an e-510 you must be insane! Why not buy a panasonic g3 for 250usd? You get all the features you want. I had an e-510, and the jump in dynamic range and ISO ability is enormous. Unless you shoot low contrast scenes with no direct lighting, your pictures will improve considerably.
I’m still using something older than the E-510 and from personal experience, apart from the obvious pixel count, walks over any Panny I’ve tried, including the GH2.
By the way it’s an E-1.
These older Olympus cameras seem to be wonderful if used at 100-400 iso, and provided key parts of the scene don’t burn out due to lack of dynamic range, they work fine. But it’s great to be liberated from these constraints. I used to use an e-510 with 14-54mm, now I have a g3 with the pana-leica 25mm f1.4 (a one lens set up). Certainly portrait shots have improved dramatically.
One key feature of these newer cameras is the light metering based upon face detection. Overlooked by online reviews, this one feature alone improves the usual personal photos many people make.
Also being able to use the display for taking pictures is a great benefit. Unsurprisingly, human nature seems to dislike someone covering their face with a big machine. Makes many people nervous for some reason.
Not a normal focal length for portraits but if it suits your style OK, as for myself I love the 50mm macro for portraits, but it is somewhat unforgiving, for something faster I use on old 50mm 1.4 Zuiko, which is fabulous on 4/3 and u4/3 bodies but I don’t mind manual focusing.
Define portraits, note that portraiture is a lot more then head shots.
50mm equiv (25mm m4/3 lens) is a perfectly normal field of view for upper-body shots, your working distance will be pretty much the same as when using a ’85mm equiv’ field of view for head shots, and it is NOT focal length that changes perspective, it is distance, and distance only.
Does anyone know if the G6 is made in Japan or China? I recently purchased the G5 however I ended up returning it, the camera and the lens are all made in China. Comparing it to my good ole GF1, the camera and the 14-42 lens that came with it are made in Japan, super smooth as far as zooming in or out….
Even the GH3 along with G5 and G3 are made in China. I won’t expect the trend to stop.
Lies, both my GH3 and even little GF3 and all my lenses have been made in Japan.
GH3 Made in China: http://www.amazon.com/made-Japan-China/forum/Fx3RE68NSBGQ4V3/Tx7OODJOASV9MV/1?asin=B009B0WREM
High end lenses are made in Japan. Kit 14-42mm Made in China.
Oh with the exception of 35-100mm X lens.
Are you crazy? So what if it’s made in China. China manufacture is controlled and overseen (including quality) by the company that owns the product – that is, Olympus, Pany, Sony, etc. If any of you believe that a Japanese company has to manufacture only in Japan in order to have a high quality product, then you are hallucinating. Take a good luck at where some of the better camera products are being manufactured. You’ll be in for a shock.
I have nothing against Chinese-made products as long as the money I paid for reflects what I paid for. Unfortunately that is not the case with the G5, the first thing I took out was the 14-42 lens that came with it, connected it with my GF1 and first thing I noticed was the zoom adjustment is rough, VERY ROUGH. After getting the G5 out of the box, I can tell the difference in quality compared to my GF1. If that is the sign of the quality I paid for, despite the glowing reviews of the G5, sorry not for me. Im not the type to just bend over and just take it, I’ll just cough up the extra dinero and get the GH3 then…
If you buy a made in China product from a major international company that is using Chinese companies to manufacture for them you should have no problem. The company will monitor production and may (often) have their own staff on site to maintain quality. If you are buying a Chinese factory production design run with a “name” attached you could end up with anything.
Why so negative concerning Chinese products? The Chinese have a well-developed high-tech sector producing competitive products of top-notch quality both for Western companies (take the iPhones as an example) and as genuine Chinese designs for domestic companies (Lenovo’s laptops may serve as an example here). Quality thus should be no issue.
You may, however, be worried about human rights. There I tend to sign in, but am afraid that buying “made in Japan / Korea / Germany / US / …” wouldn’t change too much either, as an enormous amount of components in the high-tech products assembled there will still come from China. I would very much appreciate a law mandating more substantial information on the origin of products and their components, as well as on the conditions of their manufacturing.
Martin, not all Chinese production is nice and sweet. If they are not watched they will substitute components of a specified type for cheaper ones. If they can use the ones made by their mate down the road they will. Circuit boards if not seen visually are not cleaned and so on. This applies to a VERY wide range of companies and is why many western companies who have product manufactured in China have their own quality staff on site.
I have never claimed that all Chinese products are fine. As everywhere, you get what you pay for. If you pay an appropriate price then you will be able to get top quality from a company which is Chinese throughout, from development over manfacturing to quality control (e.g. Lenovo, consistently delivering some of the best-built laptops around). But if you want to go cheap then you can’t expect quality control to be very discriminative. But as the products we are taking about are not exactly cheap (compared to the much more rebated entry-level DSLR market, they actually are still quite pricey), you should be fine. I own a Chinese-built G3 and it is absolutely convincing. Finish is visually better than on my wife’s Japan-made top end bridge camera and reliability-wise it has never let me down.
Plus: 7fps, Focus peaking, Wifi, manual video mode, 14-140/3.5-5.6
Minus: G5 sensor (well done Panny on a step backwards…), no mention of wireless TTL
If the G6 has wireless flash capability, then I’m interested.
If you check their system chart link on this page:
http://www.panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/g6/
It pulls up a pdf that mentions that the FL360L can be controlled wirelessly by the GH3, GF6, and the G6. No one’s tested wireless flash with the GF6 or G6 yet though.
I hope it’s true. Although, I’d hate to have to buy the Panny strobe, because I already have an FL-36R, and I doubt the latter flash unit is compatible with Panny bodies.
it is, all my strobes are olympus and the H3 fires them no problem
The G5 has the same GH2 sensor.
so?
I believe I should get the whammy.
http://www.43rumors.com/ft4-no-new-sensor-in-use-on-gf-and-g-cameras/#comments
I, the Leica Apostate, hereby award you a Whammy for Excellence in Panasonic Feature Inheritance Prediction!!!
So…
the GF6 is a GX1 with wifi… and now the G6 is a GH2 with wifi…
and focus peaking, and nfc, and wireless flash, and 5 fn buttons, and 7 fps, and 240 fps refresh rate sensor, and mic output.
You missed a few things didnt you?
focus peaking and evf are nice. apart from that a big fail for me. All the movie related stuff? uninteresting for me. nfc and wifi? toys. If i would want to spend the money, a nice lens will do way more for my photos than upgrade G3->G6. Apart from that its too big imho, still has a base iso of 160 which limits wide open shooting with fast lenses and, for the most important feature for me (focus peaking), i still hope to get it through (hacked) firmware one day.
Hope for the next Olympus/Panasonic….
its as big as the OMD, have you seen the side by sides?
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-g6/images/comparedtoomdfront.jpg
width and height are about the same as the OM-D, true. But the G3 is smaller in any dimension, not to mention not as bulky. It does make a difference for pocketability, especially with the 20/1.7 . I know that since i owned the G1. For me personally, i would still choose the G3 today.
But it’s ok. I will spend my money on an (olympus) lens. Next years iteration of bodys will be better in all aspects anyway.
Boring camera!
Panasonic decline right after lc1 and l1.
Look how olympus and fuji evolve.
evolve into what? cameras with weak af and watercolor photos and cameras with no view finders for 1000$?
Admin, your first look preview video is for the GF6 and not the G6.
On a brighter side…
Panasonic has just introduced superb video quality at an all time low price point.
This would make an excellent B camera… if you didn’t already own a GH2…
I’m excited about the potential of the G6 replacing the GH2 (not only the same but better image quality in video!) but we’ll have to wait, because if we’re evaluate how good its video capabilities are by this released video then it’s not up to the task at all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3oijsASQQ6k
Until the G6 gets hacked, the GH2 will continue to outperform it video wise.
The GH2 is better than what you see in that video right out of the box, no need for a hack. Hacking it will certainly give you a more solid codec, but won’t improve resolution, for instance. So no, if that video represents the IQ of the G6, then no hack will bring it any closer to the GH2.
Until the G6 gets hacked, the GH2 will continue to outperform it video wise.
i was hoping for the gh-3 sensor but i guess i should have known better. ill wait to see what the gx2 brings us but im not optimistic! other than lack of cutting edge sensor or ibis it still looks like a good camera. i like that it has good ergonomics, built in flash and fully articulated lcd. but at the end of the day, image quality is main concern for me when deciding to invest in a new body. lets see what the gx2 and omd pro bring us…
I was also expecting the GH3 sensor. Waiting for the Olympus OMD Pro too…
I would guess that the GX2 will be either:
A) The G6 minus the viewfinder.
or
B) The GH3 sensor with crippled movie modes.
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But I must say that after looking at the unboxing in Italian and looking at the other details the G6 is an excellent improvement to the “G” line. I like this camera.
I would rather have a GH3. I will only pay full price for the GH3, but maybe in half a year or so when this camera is 50% cheaper I would gladly pick one up.
Looks good. Nice looking camera. Look at all that external grippy action. Too bad about no GH3 sensor. No reason not to stick that puppy in I can see. I prefer the size of the G6 too. We’ll see about IQ. Hopefully lower noise output in high ISO vs GH2.
Yeah,you re right ,Next from this cam Panny will rebuild camera to feature/smart camera is not Photograph camera ,it has so much tech and look like robot
I liked the 14-140….could be nice lens…hope the price in combo would be better but not with G6 …I dont like those bulky dslr style as dont do video and dont have big hands…wait for gx2
If nothing else, once hacked this will offer a really, really useful second/third/fourth body for those of us who use GH2 for video. No GH3 sensor is OK to keep the price reasonable– and focus peaking is huge, especially if it works during video capture.
Where is the silver and black version shown on the 43rumours facebook post? That looked interesting.
Has anyone watched the official video sample in HD? The video looks very soft. or is it because of the youtube compression?
I’m afraid it’s not. YouTube can’t soften videos like that.
I hope the guy who encoded that video made a terrible job, but if that video is anything to go by then the G6 image isn’t comparable to the GH2… Again, I really hope I’m wrong!
Well, I’m afraid I was right…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qhS49-_nHo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHoCFgzwibs
But at least it seems to have no moiré, so the resolution is around that of Canon cameras minus false detail… But this couldn’t be more than a C camera with this quality.
Panasonic videos are nothing to go by, they post such terrible videos people weren’t even very exciting about the GH3 until some people outside of Panasonic started showing what the camera could do.
They do such a great job making the cameras then they let Dave in the basement mail room do the promo video it’s ridiculous (remember the terrible day at the zoo shots too? god all those were horrible and the dancers lol)
are there any picsshowing size comparison between the old and new 14-140’s. or any pics showing the new lens on a body?
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/panasonic-lumix-g-vario-14-140mm-hd-lens-sample-photos-21790
cheers! im definitely tempted by this lens. as far as im concerned this is what mft is all about. good image quality in a small package. id like to see what the nex version of a 28-280 equivilent lens looks like!
NEX equivalent is more than 20mm longer :D. This lens is a big plus for m4/3. Fuji 18-55mm is just a little bit smaller :).
Wish the 14-140 was a constant f/4 instead of f/3.5-5.6. I wonder how that would have changed the size/weight of the lens. I wouldn’t mind giving up a little speed at the wide end to gain speed at the long end. Throw in a weather sealing, and it would be the perfect all-purpose travel zoom. Quite a shame. Still, if the optical-tests prove sufficient, it may require purchase if the price is right.
14-140 f4? Don’t think it will be possible without being size of small canon and cost of a car.
This is an AWESOME camera for 2011!!!!
I guess Olympus can’t do no worse with their upcoming E-P5.
This has a viewfinder that makes it better. Full stop……
What I like most about the LF1 is a clue that the GX2 will have similar integrated EVF (hopefully 0.2″ with higher resolution). I expect Pany will produce a LX9 with similar design? Just imagine that Pany is capable of producing a m4/3 camera of similar design shape and size and still have a LCD screen substantially larger than any NEX or PEN.
Sony A99 lookalike. Only uglier!
buying a camera for its looks? smart man
Hmmm, now let’s wait for Olympus turn to release their gems!
Don’t wait. This has a viewfinder. Its a real camera.
I own a GH3 but wow the design of the G6 is sexyyyyyyyyyyy..
Sexy….really? I guess if you’re in to some warped kink, then ok.
Are we all supposed to be attracted to the people you find attractive too?
No. I suppose Ugly people need love too.
Looks like another Jello mould to me.
I would guess the next Pany camera like the LF1 will be a m4/3 model with fixed 28-100mm lens and same size?
Way way off
The new G6 not worth to upgrade for G5 holders .
Seeing the specs , I only can concluded it just a minor improvements over it’s predecessor .
Damn , I start to worry about the new GX .
Again , Pana is wasting our time !
sure if you consider focus peaking, wifi,nfc, 5 fn buttons, complete video control, 1.04 million dot lcd, and a mic socket minor then yeah
The worst thing is that at this moment neither Olympus nor Panasonic has a camera which would satisfy my needs as well. Unless I buy a GH3 which has an ugly design, is unreasonably bulky and is pricey due to features I wouldn’t ever use in my life (video).
I wonder what your needs really are then? You have to look at the Panasonic GH3 as a hybrid camera with an ergonomic, rugged body that also houses components and a heat sink that are required for high quality video processing. The GH3 is also a very good bargain considering the quality of the video it captures. No other company at this time offers anything similar in it’s price range and performance. The Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera is a good contender, but then you’re not talking about hybrid cameras anymore.
I assume you’re only looking for still photography performance, so why isn’t the Olympus OM-D E-M5 your thing? It’s very light and compact, looks nice and is reasonably priced. The video capabilities on it are aweful but you won’t need them anyway.
E-M5 has neither swiveling LCD nor virtual touchpad and doesn’t fit really well in my hand.
Panasonic Lumix G6 (silver) unboxing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiA0BNqt6Y
^ the silver one looks awesomely sexy! gonna grab one!
14-140mm unboxing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiA0BNqt6Y
Somehow, this fatty reminds me of Leica R8…. Looks good though!
THE G6 HAS FOCUS PEAKING!!!!!!!!!!!
Sold all my Lumix kit two weeks ago. LF1 looks like a big yawn. Still think Panny missed the boat three years ago with the GF1. If it had had an EVF it would have cleaned up.
Fuji X-E1 arrived last night. That’s how it’s done.
Yeah I hear you, I mean who doesn’t want slow af that locks on things you dont want, watercolor photos and a noisy, laggy view finder?
But it looks cool and thats all that matters!
I attach significance to people who take the trouble to make things look good. I try to do that with my photographs too. I hope you’re wrong about the IQ. It’s too early for me to tell, obviously.
But I took some valued opinions before I jumped in to Fuji. For example, the guys at Luminous Landscape are photographers. They love the Fuji IQ. And the guys at DPReview said it’s a camera that makes you want to take pictures.
You may be right. It has to happen sometime. But not yet, I think.
Lucasz, don’t bother listening to the trollboy. Nothing except for Panasonic can take photographs, according to this self proclaimed expert. He also claims to own mostly Olympus cameras and lenses. Which may well be true. But in some deranged form of self-hatred and self-inflicted agony, spends the majority of his time and posts on this rumors-site deriding Olympus and its users, with hardly anything positive to say about Olympus products at all. Call it a self-appointed vigilante crusade. Or whatever. At the end of the day, he can post what he wants, as most of us here do also. Just don’t assume that people who make bold statements know what they are talking about.
As a new Fuji user, you may want to visit forums like fujixspot where you’ll find professional photojournalists and studio photographers using the Fuji X system, as well as many amateur street and landscape shooters and everyday users who are happy with their Fuji Xs and its IQ. Rico Pfirstinger, who is a real Fuji expert, frequents this forum and has his own dedicated subforum to help new and existing users. He also write a tips and tricks column at fujirumors.
There are problems with the Fuji X system as there are with any system. A lot of it is overblown, especially from those who don’t comprehend the purpose of the system and who it was designed for, and consequently criticise it for not having things like superfast AF, touch displays, flip-out screens, more video features, camera bodies and lenses for under $500, and so on. For these, there is m4/3 and also Sony NEX (whose AF speed is still slower than m4/3, but still good). And there are those who somehow think that the Fuji X system is “too expensive”, while both X camera bodies the X-Pro1 and X-E1 can be bought for less than $1100, and the most expensive X lens so far is the 14mm f/2.8 which is $899. There are even genuine deals where you can get the X-E1 bundled with either the 18-55mm f/2.8-4 zoom or the 35mm f/1.4 prime for under $1200. Comparing that to many other systems, I think these are good deals and prices. Not super-cheap, but not super-expensive either.
I would place much greater weight and trust in the opinions of professional working photographers who use many different cameras and camera systems, and who also cooperate with the camera companies to resolve issues and help improve future products, than on single-camera—single-brand—internet-fantrollboys who have no credentials whatsoever to back up their claims other than the ability to buy gear and spend the rest of their lives defending their purchases.
BTW I currently use some low end m4/3 gear which I’m happy to continue using for casual use. But I am planning to adopt the Fuji X system in early 2014 (when the lenses I’m interested in will be available). Unless something else in m4/3 like Olympus OM-D Pro or even OM-D Lite can convince me to spend my money with them instead. Right now, I’ll just keep saving my money.
only the entire web agrees with me on the fuji issues.
Luminous landscape and dpreview has the cameras for a few days and then return them. How is that better than the opinion of users. And the majority of my gear IS olympus, you just cant deal with the fact that I dont perform fellatio on everything olympus like the rest of you fanboys. When I say something panasonic has done is better its because it simply is, another thing you cant seem to deal with.
Time spent here? youre here at all hours of the day, literally. I check the comment maybe once a day in the bathroom, the only appropriate place to read all the unfounded crap posted here
The G6 beats a DSLR in nearly every department 🙂 some other manufacturers gonna hurt….
What a pity that lags behind only on the most important area: image quality. Shit.
Wow. Serious personality issues! Is the canine the only unconditional love you are getting?
The personality problem appears to be yours he is absolutely correct in his post { perhaps that “IS” the problem?} the best APS comfortably beats the best mFT in image quality and the best FF beats the best APS comfortably, when you look at the marginal advantage that the E-M5 actually has over the G5 it really is amusing to hear the Oly boys gloat
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/%28appareil1%29/816|0/%28brand%29/Panasonic/%28appareil2%29/793|0/%28brand2%29/Olympus/%28appareil3%29/814|0/%28brand3%29/Nikon
@the jets or whoever you are today
Those other camera manufacturers still gonna hurt though.
Image quality is good enough for 99% of uses and 99% of users even Kesztio who doesn’t print as large as bus.
I like the design alot. Indeed it reminds of the Leica slr.
No reason for upgrading from G3. Fuck G6, fuck Panasonic. Period.
I heard how Panasonic kicked down your door, punched you in the face and shot your dog.
I’d be mad and hate Panasonic too.
But hey, you have options, OMD, NEX and Fuji.
no. non of that meets his demands.
Lol. I completely agree with you.
Hope they can add focus peaking to the G5 in firmware as it is so recent
and has the same sensor.
Or do they expect us to buy a new camera every year?
I expect the latter.
Nobody is putting a gun to your head, forcing you to upgrade every time a new camera comes out. You don’t have to buy Anything.
Don’t like it, don’t buy it. SIMPLE.
G6 continues tradition of G range hitting the m43 sweet spot (price, features, size).
But they really deserve a mark down for the old generation sensor. Cheap.
Butt ugly and aged sensor – excellent strategy to beat Olympus and Sony 😉
Sorry, I couldn’t resist…
+1000
“Butt ugly and aged sensor”
Agree. But those are G6’s only drawbacks. Focus peaking, panorama, HDR, WiFi, NFC make for quite an interesting camera. I forgot the lack of IBIS, of course, which is why I’m definitely not interested, but overall it’s a step in the right direction.
OTOH, I love the improvements in the new 14-140mm. It’s almost a centimeter shorter than Oly and Tamron 14-150mm, while faster than the former. And it much lighter than the old one. I hope the image quality is improved too.
Nice additions to the system.
Please, are the Wifi and NFC such important features for a digital camera? I can see the only reason in remote controllinng, a serious photographer NEVER uploads a foto straight out from the camera, w/o post-processing.
Yeah, remote control is the only reason I’d like to have WiFi in my camera. I understand your frustration at not getting the features you wanted. I guess I’ll be disappointed in the same fashion in two weeks time when Olympus announces new PENs :). But if G6 had IBIS, I’d accept that sensor because of many other features Oly cameras lack at the moment ( focus peaking, HDR, panorama, swivel screen, large grip, … ).
A bit of a disappointment is the flash sync speed of only 1/160s, but we’ve gotten used to that from Panasonic :(.
There are Pro’s who do ZERO post processing!!!!
And as for the WiFi, I can be on a shoot, transfer the pics to my iPad, even do some minor post processing with Photo genie and show it to the client OR if he/she’s not there, email it to them for comments and instant gratification.
Don’t knock the tech until you tried it. I have and it’s very good!
Why is it always the sensor? It is a overestimated part of the package while the electronics and software are constantly overlooked. If Panasonic announces a new Venus engine and more powerful chips no body gives a crap, yet if the sensor it 9 month old, its a tragedy. Seriously…
So is the G6 a cross bred between the GH2 and GH3?
How is it for video?
Maybe I should upgrade my G1 to this new sweet G6. 🙂
The problem for Panasonic is that they have no new sensor tech. The GH3 sensor is obviously Sony. Panasonic hasn’t moved up to that level, that’s why you see these old sensors in new cameras, Panasonic just doesn’t have a replacement.
Olympus on the other hand has to buy their sensors for all cameras. So who cares if they are all from Sony? That’s why all their cameras have the latest tech.
Epic fail as ususal since the LX3 and GF1. Panasonic dropped the ball after those two.. The LX3/GF1 was amazing for the time.. But now? Panasonic is years behind the others.. The G6 ? BIGGER then the already BIG G5?? Big body/small sensor is a really strange market strategy.. And, NO SONY SENSOR AGAIN??!! What in gods name are you doing Panasonic?
What has a sony sensor got to do with life? It does got control it.
Um its as big as the omd
wait to E-P5,OM-D Pro or E-7 if Oly use new sensor such as 20mpx sony same tech as
A58 SLT or others from outsouce factory ,i will kiss to Oly ,and i hate Panny then
not but thire cam any more.
but i worry OM-D sensor will still use for 5 years from now!
WHY Oly failed to advice new factory of image sensor ????
Oly is small and low power than NIKON that NIK can announce new sensor to new replacment camera lines, they still keep the best underdog Olympus. 😛
Sorry, “not but thire cam any more” -> “not buy thire cam any more”
There is really not much to say:
-G6 is ok, but not worth it for upgraders. Cynical cheap move not upgrading the sensor. First focus peaking for MFT us probably the only interesting development.
-14-140 makes a lot of sense (IQ tests pending). The old lens was too large/heavy for the format. APSC lenses were smaller.
I must say that i prefer the not so bulky look of the predecessor, like i prefer the look of the gh2 over the gh 3. The high shoulders make it look ….hmmm
Well, my fury is gone. Giving another chance to Panasonic for GH5 or G7, maybe already with color splitter sensors. In the meantime I’ll use my G3.
Dude, you need to chill out. A true photographer knows that it’s a good eye that makes great photographs and not the equipment. Technology changes daily, so don’t get so wrapped up in it. There is no such thing as the perfect package because it will become out of date tomorrow.
I guarantee that a good photographer can make great pictures regardless of the equipment. The great thing about technology is that it gives the rest of us an opportunity to create photos we can be proud of…
You just have proved to me that there is no reason for me to upgrade. So what’s the problem? 😀
Color Splitters do not work for large(ish) apertures, thus won’t be seen in MFT.
How you can be so sure about that?
Completely false. Theres even a color splitter 43s sensor being tested
You took a right decision, the G3 is a good one and good reason to stay with it for next year. Invest in lenses and improve your photographer’s eye 🙂
I had been longing for the E-P5, but it seems I’ll pick a discounted E-PL5. I will not buy any overpriced stuff. IQ/Price ration is much more important for me.
I’ve been searching for a versitile all-in-one compact camera. Mainly for videos. Most of the compacts didn’t satisfy me with their poor low light performance. Then, last year, LX7 came along- it’s near perfect for my needs, I only needed a little more zoom- at least x7. So, now LF1 has been released- it’s perfect! Except for one thing- it’s less powerful and doesn’t offer option to shoot 60fps at FULL HD and 120fps at HD like LX7 does. A step backward. So, I pass…
It takes pictures. It has a viewfinder at least that makes it a camera. Not a dork’s thingie.
As some one else said before ‘no viewfinder it ain’t a camera’. This is a camera. Thats a good place to start taking pictures. Yea Yea
Why in the hell Pana put focus peaking in the G6 (if it’s actually true, which I still doubt) and not in the GH3. Panasonic, helloooooooooooooo!!
It is in Panasonic’s own press release… yeah it’s true.
Firmware updates exist, calm down man
Yeah, of course… fw updates really exists! But they already released one and no focus peaking. If I remember a Panasonic manager in an interview didn’t give us much hope about it a while ago. And now they come with the feature on a non-flagship model, a bit wierd at least. Let’s also remember that’s the first m4/3 having that… so what? I still feel a bit skeptic…. 🙁
Now it’s time for Panasonic to correct this! URGENT!!!
G6 is the best m43 model designed to date, period. Nearly, almost, stupidly bought the POS OM-D this week… So glad I didn’t!
I hope focus peaking becomes a standard feature for future models now and is also added to previous models, at least to GF6 and GH3 by firmware update.
By the way, there are hands-on photos of the new 14-140 which offer a good comparison to the older 14-140 at PhotographyBlog:
http://www.photographyblog.com/news/panasonic_14_140mm_power_o.i.s_lens_hands_on_photos/
LOL what a ugly little thing! looks like a cheap super-zoom. Gh2 sensor REALLY ? Panasonic is the most ecologic brand for sure ( recycling,recycling,recycling,recycling) lol!
+10000!
Such Bias and hate towards Panasonic.. When any other camera brand reuses sensors (Olympus, Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji) it’s not a big deal, but when Panasonic does it, Get out the Torches and Pitchforks!!
Such Muppets around here, hating for no real reason.
GH2 sensor is very good and packaged around an even smaller body is a big feat, not to mention even a better OS to get the most out of the sensor.
I’m tempted, seriously. This might be coming home with me come June, I mean July.. We all know Panasonic’s shipping dates never stick.
“Such Muppets around here, hating for no real reason.”
It’s not hate you fanboy muppet, it’s just an opinion that differes from yours. Live with it. Muppet.
DO YOU USE IT, MUPPET??
Back to reality though, opinions? Yeah right. Not here at 43 Rumors… It’s too easy to know the difference between opinion from hate here.
And I like how you replied to the “Muppet” comment. I got to you, you read it.
My job is done.
google how old the canon 18mp sensor is, feel like a moron, and come back here
In fact it seems to be a very good camera: well equipped/nice features, good Quality. As usual for Pana´s G-line the price-performance ratio will be convincing.
But unfortunately it is by far too big and the DSLR design is not my cup ot tea.
rational -> yes!
emotional -> no!
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-g6/
I think you need a point and shoot then if you think the G6 is too big.
its as big as the OMD, how small do you need it?
Does this still have the annoying 29 minute video recording limit in EU?
Because this means I have to wait for hack before using it for event videos, which is an important use for me
Otherwise I find this cam pretty compelling
g6 has 1/160 flash sync, what a shame
I have no issue with the G6’s general design and looks. The grip looks handy, and I think there may be enough room for placing the right thumb on the right rear without accidentally pushing buttons.
My niggles are omissions: index finger dial, 1/250 synch speed, wireless flash control, and a threaded shutter release button.
A vertical battery grip with extra shutter release button and dial would be nice. Like the G5, the G6 is similar to the E-620, at least in spirit.
@theeye
The G6 has wireless flash control also third party grips may be available in the future 🙂
The G6 has wireless flash control with Panny strobes or with the FL36 R and FL50 R units. However, wired flash with Oly flash units is incompatible.
I don’t know if anyone is going to sell a battery grip for a camera that will be replaced by a new model in half a year or so.
I’m gonna dob you’s all in to the Yoonited Nayshuns for hate speech and hate crimes against Panasonic, you bunch of haters. Yeah, we realise the G6 is so damn ugly it’s causing people to go blind. We hear that recycling factories worldwide are celebrating and eco-tech share prices just rose to a historic high. And the sensor just screams corporate (self) responsibility. But does it deserve such relentless hate? We’ll let the Yoo Enn decide that. Maybe you’s can all back off a little on the hate speech. Someone somewhere might get their feelings hurt. And we don’t want that. In the meantime, why not dust off those old tape recorders and rewind and play a tape a few times. A good recording deserves to be played over and over and over again. Well, look at the time. Stock market is closing in 15. Gotta go and buy me some blue-chip eco-tech-recycling shares before the next price adjustment. What? Up five cents in the last 5 minutes? Damn, the market!
I am unimpressed, G5 was more innovative compared to its predecessors than G6.
Surely improved touch screen and wifi are nice to have, but are no dealbreakers.
Focus peaking is a software upgrade. And boy it is UGLY.
oled view finder, 1.04 million dot screen, 5 fn buttons, wifi,nfc, wireless flash, focus peaking, mic out, full video control
It seems like hell of a more update than the g3-g5
panasonic has to do a lot better than this. Where are the spiritual successor to
GF1. All of us who has invested in several lenses expect a new GF1 mk2 (like Canon)
with or without integrated VF. Otherwise Panasonic will be the best advertisment
for Fuji and Sony CSC cameras. Regards Ulf.
GF1 successor?
I guess you missed the GX1.
And he’s missing it on sale too…
the GF6 is a hell of a lot more camera than the gf1 was, unless you need a hotshoe
I fail to understand why Panasonic focused so much on the video abilities of the G6 when it already has the GH3 for video purposes. G6 should be an E-M5 killer and an old sensor won’t do it. Considering there is more than 1 year gap between the 2 cameras I was expecting more from the G6. Panasonic does not seem to have a clear market strategy, maybe it should take a good look at what Sony and Olympus are doing…
+1
Panasonic put a higher end camera sensor in this camera, one that performs very good (why fix it if it isn’t broken?) and improving it through better processing. As I understand it, they’re replacing a camera they’ve discontinued by improving upon it, and giving those features to a lower end range.
Unfortunately, video doesn’t seem to be up to the task, but on the photography side I doubt you’ll find a noticeable difference between this and a similarly priced MFT camera. The E-M5 is above the price range, so it’s not a valid comparison, I think.
About the visuals: The silver edition is looking VERY VERY nice. Maybe (if the G6 is “useful”) my FIRST silver body I consider to buy …
No I did not, but maybe its the best way to update a GF1, unless you
chose Olympus, Sony or Fuji. But I still fell it is Panasonics loss
as the GX1 are not fully up to date. Regards Ulf.
…if you want to know why panasonic focused so much on improving video, all you have to do is go to any video oriented forum. We all think it’s great !
The styling on this just might be the best of any Panasonic mft camera, maybe even better than Oly cameras depending on your taste for retro. I wouldn’t go so far as to say ‘sexy’, but it is even retro in a way as those noting the leica R and S resemblance saw.
As far as styling goes, IMO the GH2 was the best looking of the bunch. Then the G5. Less so the GH3 and now the G6.
I miss the hump….
After all the whinging over the OMD’s hump the folks at panny probably thought, “Let’s give them a reason to whinge over a very small hump.” 😛
The same old GH2 sensor? FAIL Panasonic. If it had the same sensor as the GH3 I would have bought one, but this gives me no reason to upgrade from my GH2.
@anonymous
The G6 isn’t aimed at potential GH2 upgraders so the fail is on your part.
the stupidity of men somehow continue to amaze me…
“no IBIS, no buy” and “lens is not black, no buy” were getting seriously old, so they had to find an other nail to over-hammer until both the nail and the whole concept gets destroyed in ridicule..
Just look at the Olympus EP-5. Thats what Panasonic should have done. Regards Ulf.
Nope. This is what E-P5 should have looked like. Wanna swap sensor/IBIC combo :)?
I wish the LF1 had used the higher resolution 0.21″ EVF used in the FZ200.
In my opinion Lumix G6 was born from the work of Vitaliy Kiselev, hired as partner by panasonic, on the Lumix GH2
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