The 40MP vs 16MP E-M5II file comparison by Robin Wong
There are many new E-M5II tests:
Second part of the E-M5 Mark II review by Robin Wong (Click here).
EM5-II Sample photos (ISO range, 16mm-40mp images, low-light, video, em5 getting wet) at ePhotozine.
ePhotozine Hands-on with the 8mm (images here) and 7-14mm (images here) lens.
E-M5II gallery by CameraLabs.
16vs40vs64 mpix comparison by Dmitry Novak.
Image samples by SystemKameraForum.
OM-D Action Factory event in Prague (MirrorLessons) and a hands-on video with the 8mm and 7-14mm:
Preorders (if you preorder through those links you will support 43rumors…thanks!):
E-M5II in Black at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
E-M5II in Silver at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
E-M5II In Europe at AmazonUK, Jessops, WexUK, Namencolor.
14-150mm II lens at Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
FL-LM3 Flash at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
Olympus ECG-2 External Metal Grip at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
Olympus HLD-6P Battery Grip at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
HLD-8g at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
E-P16 eyecup at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
HLD-8G and HLD-6P kit at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
Full leather case at Amazon, Adorama and GetOlympus.
Olympus PT-EP13 Underwater Housing at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
Olympus Stylus Tough TG-860 at Adorama, BHphoto and GetOlympus.
36 Responses
Not internal focusing…how does that work with dust on the inside of the lens hood?
Inside of the lens hood is outside of the lens, so it doesn’t matter, I guess.
Doesn’t matter. Dust, Splash and Freeze proof design. You can always blow out the possible dust around the lens hood.
And I actually prefer it that way, why? Because I can really easily just zoom in to 14mm and get the front lens to get protected easily against scratches or even fingers when handling objective normally while swapping those. One reason less to carry a cap.
Good point, I usually have a small screw in lens hood so I dont need a cap
Dude, im sure it’s internal focusing just not internally ZOOMING.
Yes, you are right.
What was now interesting found was that the HR shot allows to use flash. Thanks to Dmitry Novak review.
So we can get no delay, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1″, 2″ and 4″ delay to take shots from shutter press (or remote control trigger). And then add delay between each shot for flash recycle up to 30 seconds.
That is great for product photographers so they can use even very slow flashes.
Looking at the 40mb v 16mp shots It seems to me that in all of them (not just these but others) it looks like noise reduction is on or ha been applied for the 16meg shots and has blurred out detail. Or is this simply part of the difference.
Probably something that is normal and accepted when dealing with the 16mp shots. Its only when the difference is seen with the same lens and same sensor does it become noticeable..
It is not NR. Many of the samples show zoomed 16MP image to provide the same magnification as the HR crop. That way you can see clearly the benefits of HR.
Yes..I also believe what you are mistaking for NR is actually the degrading of the image caused by the upsampling of the 16MP image.
The sensor shift technique, apart from increasing effective resolution and colour fidelity, also has the consequence of reducing noise, so comparing the 16Mp shots to the 40Mp ones, the former will seem noisier.
There is a nice blog measuring the resolution and showing a 10% increase in lp/ph effectively. It is demonstrated, that a A6000 still has better resolution. Nevertheless you get the benefit of no moire and aliasing, which helps in many situations and increases perceived sharpness.
http://www.strollswithmydog.com/olympus-e-m5-ii-high-res-40mp-shot-mode/
http://www.strollswithmydog.com/mtf50-trusted/
The 7-14 looks very compact and balanced on the e-m5 II. Quite a feat compared to the big but excellent 4/3 7-14 that is a stop slower! Great lenses but all I care is the 300 F4!!
After 7-14mm all I care is some zoom between 150-400mm. A 200-400mm would be a great too.
No, I don’t care about the weight and size for m4/3 at those ranges as they would always bee smaller and lighter than anything for APS-C or 35mm format. As those who need the range cares about the range, image quality and shutter speed. Even price is not a concern because when you need something, you need it. It is not “I want that”, it is “I need that”.
It is difference like why to get 40-150mm f/2.8 Pro instead 40-150mm f/4-5.6 R. As while quality is good enough on that cheap 139€ zoom, it is not weather proofed and it is pump zoom and it is slow. Difference “Nice to have” and “Need one” is big between those two.
Olympus are working hard on their lens line up – really great to see. Really impressed with Panasonic’s “GM” mini lens line-up, I just hope their are more nocticrons inbound to fill the gaps in the “system” and make it harder for people to resist jumping into the beautiful m43 world.
WOW…….FINALLY a some meaningful 40MP vs 16MP comparison images from a skilled photographer.
Thanks Robin! I guess that the RAW images will be even better. Quite a nice tool to have onboard a small system camera. Sweet!
oooohhhhhh…ePHotozines Hi-Rez samples were very nice too!!!!
I think the difference is greater if you magnify the 16mp file 250% to match and compare to 40mp file. If you down sample the 40mp to 16mp, the difference will not be that great.
There is no really meaningful way to compare the two files by up-sampling or down-sampling..
If you up-sample the 16MP file..it is dreaded and if you down-sample the Hi-Rez file you compress it (although for a comparison like this side-by-side…this might be more informative?)….but one thing we can say is that the 63MP RAW File kicks every body’s a$$! 🙂
250% is uneven enlargement and will look worse.
Stick to 200% or 400% enlargements where each pixel is multiplied two times each time.
It is not that the 40mp trick doesn’t work rather that it has major limitations. For static subject situations { the only way that works } that need tripods anyway, you can do the same trick with any camera you want. Probably doing the job in post using dedicated software you will have more flexibility and fine control over the end result.
Why do they need 8 images to get to a 40mp file ? If I shoot 8 pictures with my E-M1 I will have 128mp to play with. I shoot 4-6 images which gives excellent results final results on photoacute better than I see in the samples so far
sighs. color fidelity. this makes the oly sensor an effective equivalent to a foveon. You get full color information for each pixel.
Ye, the earlier MirrorlessLessons one was a bit lame. GJ Robin Wong.
What would be the best way to get a filter on the 7-14?
Looks like there is no filter drawer on the back end of the lens….so I guess you are going to have to go with some kind of “Lee Big STopper” type of situation…..no?
The Lee SEVEN5 looks nice, only its screw in :-S
Big Stopper!
They have the Big Stopper for the SEVEN5 as well. Its 75x90mm compared to the normal 100x100mm. Would be nice if they made a special adaptor to the 7-14 lens as they have to the nikor 14-24.
it looks like sharpening does the same as 40mp.. and it works on all motives.
I think I’ll stick with the sharpening slider which is free and save the 1100.00 dollars.
Err, you can’t add detail which isn’t there with sharpening. Yes you can make an photograph look sharper at a distance, but you can’t add extra resolution.
Sure, but how many needs even 16Mpix? Many professional are doing huge prints from 10-13Mpix sensors and they are very happy about quality.
Sure they are apart from the super niche ultra high ISO A7s when exactly was the last 10-13mp serious camera released ?
Which is why I’m very interested in the E-M5 mkII. For most of my macro photography, 16mp is fine. This is because a combination of diffraction and movement often would make it practically to get much more resolution than 16mp. However, with completely still subjects and good technique it would be possible to get more. I have long been interested in high resolution of some types of shots. However, I could never justify the cost or weight of carrying around a MF camera or similar just for a limited amount of shots, so this is an ideal solution.
Obviously there are more limitations with what can be captured using this method. Usually though to really capture the level of detail to make the most of this type of resolution conditions and technique need to be perfect.
those new Oly lenses are cool…I like how 7-14 zoom!
Its great that Olympus introduced this high res feature first, good for their image as innovator but this race will soon be over and not worth mentioning as something special.
The feature is already being rumored for Pentax and you know Sony will release a 50MP A7R version P as in P for “Product” that will get you those 200MP raw files that you need for that 40″ x 60″ 300dpi print that you always wanted to make