There are many new rumors from the competititon and I made you a quick recap!
1) Is the Nikon Mirrorless “Q” camera ready to be unveiled? (Nikonrumors). 43rumors thoughts: I believe they will show some mirrorless camera prototypes.
2) Does Leica have „one more thing“ for photokina? (Mirrorlessrumors). 43rumors thoughts: I don’t believe Leica will bring an EVIL camera.
3) Mirrorless will outsell DSLRs by 2012/2013 says Samsung (Mirrorlessrumors). 43rumors thoughts: They are just shouting 🙂
4) New Samsung lens roadmap (Mirrorlessrumors). 43rumors thoughts: Nice lenses!
5) Mr. Hamada from Hoya-Pentax says about mirrorless: “we would like to release products with an individuality that shines through” (via Mirrorlessrumors). 43rumors thoughts: Let’s wait Photokina!
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if Nikon make a mirrorless camera like the PEN … with an APS-C sized chip (or doubtful a 43 chip) but as a scaled down version of the chip in the D700 with THAT ISO performance – wow! That would be nice. But that chip can’t be cheap!
But if they did then it would be a new lens mount, possibly? And I think here there begins to be a risk. Sony, Samsung, 43 mount, + nikon … a bit messy … but no more so that normal dSLR. Sony obviously thinks they can go it alone and they have following of everything must be SONY fan boys.
I just think its a real shame that nobody else wants to join the m43 or 43 mount. Okay Voigtländer now give us the 25/0.95 in m43, and Samyang the 85 & 35/1.4s, and their fisheye? Nokton the 50/0.95, Zeiss their UBEREXPENSIVE movie lenses … but these are all ‘little’ player.
Maybe Pentax as a non-player in this market could join m43?
Scaling down d7000’s 16mp sensor would result in worse ISO performance, but if you would like to use a smaller(m43 if youd like) sized d7000’s sensor you will end up with 10mp instead of 16, which makes you admire Panasonic’s GH1 sensor for being a good performer althou much smaller then apc-c
Re: if Nikon make a mirrorless camera like the PEN … with an APS-C sized chip (or doubtful a 43 chip) but as a scaled down version of the chip in the D700 with THAT ISO performance – wow! That would be nice. But that chip can’t be cheap!
If Nikon would cut an APS-C sensor from the D3/D700 wafer, it would only contain 5 Megapixels. I doubt that would be enough for large prints?
However, if Olympus would use the same Sony sensor as Nikon in the Nikon D7000, it would become a decent 10.2 Megapixel sensor, which would fair OK, just -2/3EV in performance below the Nikon D7000.
I trust Olympus to have examined the market and have chosen the best sensor for its cameras, at the time for the spec to be frozen.
For others to enter the EVIL market, access to good performing sensors is a must. We know suitable APS-C is available from both Samsung and Sony, and µ43 size from Panasonic, and Foveonesque from Sigma. I don’t know who delivers APS-C sized sensors to Ricoh GXR?
If Nikon Q enters, what sensor is coming on board? A backlit type?
> I don’t know who delivers APS-C sized sensors to Ricoh GXR?
Sony.
> the PEN … with an APS-C sized chip
I’m more concerned about how larger sensor would affect the size of lenses.
Not too sure Canon or Nikon will do micro mirror less right…
I think Leica will be announcing new lenses mainly aimed at the AF 100
I’m most curious about the future of the sensor “size”, having invested in m4/3 sometimes i CAN see drawbacks of the smaller vs apc-c sensor size (due to DR,noise)
if nikon’s sensor size would be similar/smaller then m43 then they i’d guess they are betting that in the near future the IQ difference between both sensors would be much smaller
> i CAN see drawbacks of the smaller vs apc-c sensor size (due to DR,noise)
The difference between the sensors is actually not that big. On cheap cameras Oly simply uses cheaper post processing.
DR I though was too much worse, until I have seen on dpreview forums a guy who had gathered PhotoShop steps of how to make out of his Oly E-nnn shots the shots comparable to his D90 ones.
Otherwise, my experience is that if I see too much noise and poor DR on a shot out of my E-520, that means the picture has nothing interesting in it. And 99% of people to whom I was showing the pictures did not care about the DR or noise (or horrible banding of my E-520 on ISO800+).
Those Samsun lenses are dang small for sure, but not very exciting focal lengths & apertures IMHO.
I’m hoping both Nikon and Pentax release rugged bodies using that new 16mp Sony APS-C sensor. With the P7000 nikon has shown they know how to make an enthusiast body, now just make one like that with a bigger sensor and built in EVF. As far as Pentax goes, I could see them making either a trendy looking camera to appeal to women and hipsters, or a serious weather sealed body. A modern day Pentax LX. I hope it’s the latter, but I fear it’s the former.
I wonder if Sanyo would manufacture a possible Nikon EVIL camera, like they do with the Nikon compacts?
the samsung roadmap is what i expected from panasonic to do…
No mention of the Canon EVIL rumors:
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,162.0.html
Not sure if this will come thru as a link, if not, go to Canonrumors.com and scroll down to the article “Canon EIS Mirrorless System [CR1]”.
My take, all major DSLR manufacturers will be in this market in the coming year. Let the fun begin and Pan/Olympus had better have their game faces on!
I would also hope for something special from Pentax. I’m a longtime Olympus user, but always have a soft spot in my heart for their avid, non-snooty users (check out PentaxForums.com) and for this company which came back from the ashes swinging with first the Kx and K7, now the Kr and K5. My hope is for a weathersealed EVIL camera using their great primes, the ultimate walkabout camera.
leica has always been mirrorless, it’s a rangefinder camera 😉
That’s why I said “Leica EVIL” 🙂
Looks like you missed one…