Two trusted sources told me that the new high-end compacts will be announced one month later than previously rumored. Not on July 16 but sometimes in late August! But they also confirmed the large sensor fixed lens camera is coming for sure!
And one more thing: Some hot rumors are about to come soon 😉
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FT4=61-80% chance the rumor is correct
FT5=81-99% chance the rumor is correct
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damn it…bloody summer…bloody photokina
It turns out, see, see announce at Christmas. First June, then July, then August and then … Christmas. Sure sony otherwise how can he sell his rx100M3. This is the logic of the market. The cameras are ready and kept secret
I need to correct you – the logic of the market is as follows:
It turns out see see Eastern. First January then February then March and then …. Eastern. Maybe Panasonic can she sell her LX8 ? It’s no longer secret, are not ready ?
Admin, may I ask are these “hot rumors” for m43 or the compact? If m43, for camera, lens or other?
The lagre format compacts may be a new 4/3 sensor 2 larger than m43 to compete with a RX1 sony series but a half price. I hop this
You don’t know a single thing about sensor sizes and camera system do you ?
Unfortunately our sources do confirm that the sensor will be smaller than 1 inch. Actually it will have just 0.999 inches.
I think the 0.001 inch will not make a difference given that it is a good sensor 🙂 I understand that it is a Sony made sensor – the same as in the Sony RX100m3 – if the rumors are right – and Sony advertises it as a 1 inch sensor
LOL
And it will have a square multi-aspect sensor so you don’t break your wrist, right ?
Almost forgotten.
So is m43 fixed lens a zoom or prime/fixed focal length? LX8 =zoom but other one?
Fixed fixed 35mm equiv f1.8. Zoom lenses are all poor image quality
For that, there is the GM1. Either with the 12-32 kit zoom or the bigger fixed15mm f1.7 leica. The 20mm from panasonic is a little too big for the GM1, youy have also sigma option. And if you really want fixed lense m4/3 camera, buy three gm1, one tube of glue and the three sigma lenses, and with little effort you now have three fixed m4/3 camera 🙂
You obviously don’t understand fixed lens cameras. Glad Panasonic does. GM1 is no substitute. Can’t wait til August.
They already have announced a large sensor fixed lens camera, just a few weeks ago.
Panasonic: Please give us a Panasonic G7 with GX7 sensor and DFD!
+ one million
Is the m43 fixed lens camera to be a Fuji X100/s competitor with a fixed focal range? or will it have a zoom lens? I would really like to see a larger version of the LX8 – a 24-150 focal range at F1.8-F2.8 with a M43 sensor – of course it would have to be larger – I have the RX100 and I am really interested in the LX8 give that it is about the same size as the LX7 but with longer focal range then the RX100/m2/m3 – and it will have Touch LCD and Touch To Focus and Shoot – I think that is super and of course it will have a EVF – I am willing to get it even though it is a bit larger then the RX100 – RX100/m2 and m3 now are nice camera and very small – and 24-70mm is not bad – but for the extra focal range to 90mm and Touch To Focus and I suspect about $100 less the LX8 will be a winner –
I still would like a larger version of the LX8 with longer zoom and m43 sensor – of course we have the GM1 which is nice – but sometimes I feel it a bit more practical to have a fixed zoom camera – ( of course interchangeable allows for more versatility ) and the GM1 is a bit small for some of the longer lenses whereas a fixed zoom lens would be a bit smaller – I really hope the LX8 will be able to compete with the Sony RX100m3
m43 fixed lens camera has no sense. There is arleady GM1 with pana 20mm or new 15mm. I think that panasonic has produce a innovative 12mp 4/3 sensor (2x larger than m43) which will introduce in a new revolutionary compact (aka rx1 sony) with all 4k features of GH4 that blown away any other manufacter. The price woluld be around 1400-1500$.
I hope that this is the surprise rumored by panasonic 🙂
Are you dense ? The micro in ¨micro four thirds¨ does not refer to a smaller sensor, it is in fact the same size as legacy 4/3, only the bodies are smaller (hence micro). The FZ1000 already has all (or rather 98.9%) of the GH4 features AND a fast fixed (zoom) lens. Go to some camera forums and get yourself acquainted with today camera systems before you start asking for cameras you have no idea about.
Sony will answer quickly with their own APS-C fixed E-Mount or even APS-C fixed A-Mount (10x larger than E-Mount) camera.
fixed lens cameras don’t have any mount, it’s a fixed lens!
“12mp 4/3 sensor (2x larger than m43)”
…I believe 2x m43 is full frame.
Actually 4x. 2x crop factor, 4x area.
Dude! “12mp 4/3 sensor” is hardly innovative… Panasonic already had a 4/3 12MP sensor about, um, 10 years ago. A full frame compact from Panasonic, makes a little more sense. Would be nice to have, for sure.
This is a good troll. The guys who just rant about tiny sensors are boring, but this! This is artful trolling. The artificial ignorance, the high target price. THIS is artful trolling. He got half the people here to react strongly to his faux ignorance. Well done my friend, well done! Chapeau!
Well, then my summer is destroyed. Thanks Panasonic.
What hot rumors are about to come soon!?! COME ON!!!
I hope that revolutionary camera is a 12mp 4/3 (non m43) sensor fixed f1.8 35mm all cinema 4k mic and headphone imput clean 10bit 4:2:2 HDMI. Less than 1500$. Come on panasonic destroy all other cameras with this
Dude, are your for real ? 4/3 and m4/3 share the same sensor size! What are you talking about? also, how can it be considered a 4/3 (or m4/3 for that matter) camera it it has no lens mount, sensor size is not the only determining factor in a standard. And finally, every one of those specs are quite boring for such a niche camera besides being fairly attainable by Pany (and Oly, but they hate video) for way less than $1500 (just look at the FZ1000), probably 799 or 990 tops, but now that you’ve shown that consumers are willing to go for 1500 that’s exactly what they’ll charge us for.
I hope that the new compact fixed lens camera has new mft sensor with less megapixels 12mp are perfect for all things and image result more clean in low light and less artifact and ability to use full sensor of 4k readout
Manufacturers must love fixed lens cameras – when the electronics are obsolete – and they are even when the camera goes to the market – one has to buy a whole new camera.
When the electronics are obsolete in an interchangeable lens camera, you have to buy a whole new camera too. Swapping lenses doesn’t fix the camera electronics.
However, I don’t see how a camera that still works as a picture-taking device can be considered obsolete. The core photographic features have been in place in cameras for a long time.
“And one more thing: Some hot rumors are about to come soon”
If you have real rumors, spill them. If you don’t, we know you will write something every day already.
Yes! Spill all the rumors. I’m sure he can find some questionable Olympus eBay deals to post tomorrow!!
This is now looking like a late August Photokina release.
Hot rumors?
Cheap FAST sealed primes?
17.5 f/1.4? under $500?
42.5 f/1.4? under $600?
12mm f/1.8? under $600?
25mm f/1.4 redesign to be metal matte black and sealed and at the same price?
Or even faster lenses?
One can dream, right?
Hot rumors dream … all cameras under 1000$ human honest price for example GH$ for 700-800$ its correct honest price
I hope that soon there will be more high-rating rumors about the LX8 sensor.
Latest rumors said that it didn’t share the same sensor as the FZ1000, so I’m hoping for less MP count and more 4K-friendly MP. A 12MP 4:3 sensor would be perfect for 4K, since it would match 1:1 pixel and if those slides by Panasonic are any sort of indication, they think 12MP is enough, since it allows at least A3 print of it. With a smaller sensor, you can get less rolling shutter and better full readout from the sensor, which could possibly make the LX8 a great 4K camera.
Those “12MP is enough” slides are old. Only pro full frame and cell phones can get away with that in today’s market.
It’s couple of years old and it was about the RX100 and the LX7, but that’s missing the point. How is a LX8 with 12MP not enough? It’s plenty. Moreover, people would rather have a 12MP with better IQ and even better 4K video than an unnecessary 20MP in a premium compact camera.
So Panasonic is the next company to leave the camera business. Can’t say I’m surprised, but I thought they would be around at least a couple more years. Oh well, the fewer companies left, the better for the consumers. A less confusing market makes it easier to choose a camera, and the remaining companies can finally get down to business and innovate. This might actually be the best piece of news so far during the digital era. Panasonic, you will be forgotten, but not missed!
You’re a total idiot. You will be totally forgotten and not missed, moron. But don’t worry, you have a friend in MrALLCRAP.
Keep your personal attacks to yourself, troll! Go take some pictures instead of insulting people who just express their opinions.
Hey dumbass, you’re bashing panasonic on a panasonic / olympus forum. I would call that trolling. So follow your own advice, go take some crappy pictures instead.
Bashing? I just tried to turn the news about their retreat from the camera market into something positive. We shouldn’t dwell on the negative things.
where are you pulling out those “news”? out of butt? go away
Wow, talk about unprovoked aggressiveness!
“Oh well, the fewer companies left, the better for the consumers”
Wow, where did you go to school? Ever heard of monopolies (no not thr board game)
Monopoly is good, it makes life easier for the consumers. One option = easy choice.
one option = freedom to raise price … sigh but damn you’re dumbass, i’ll stop arguing with brainless people.
Since when is price an issue? If you can’t afford a camera, then you need to work harder or get another job. Laziness isn’t a very nice quality.
nanana panasonic is the only brand that offer at consumer the best quality image and video. Well developed codecs and not hanged product like sony
I once had a job interview with them, they worked like robots, I practically (as far as that goes with job interviews) told them to bugger off. One of the first things they told me was “there is no space for creative here, you know, the ones with the coffee cup on the desk”. That was bad. Then they added “we do supply your work uniforms at a low cost for you”. That was worse.
I’m sure there isn’t any place for a “creative” when you apply for a job as a mail clerk. As far as I know, the R&D of Panasonic is in Japan so this sounds fishy lol
Panasonic? No, I was talking about my interview with Wal-Mart.
You couldn’t clean toilets for Wal-Mart.
That’s why his name is Bollox. He’s the resident British anti-m43 FUD troll.
I am an engineer, turdie… That involves having a brain and using it, studying, learning, all that sort of things. Sorry I know that’s confusing…
You are a turdie and everyone here knows it.
He is a turdie and I should know.
Serious question: Did the admin change what was posted or is reading comprehension just not your thing?
Gimmie a break, its independence day here, Ive been drunk since 7AM!!
Don’t know what you’re talking about. Fewer companies= less innovation and higher prices for consumers.
Yeah I must survive this summer with my LX7s.
I am sorry admin, I still will be reading your news and rumors, but this foum is dead and the trolls have won…. So, this will hopefully (you never know whether you can resist or not) be my last post.
Meh. Last I checked there were some good dialogue going on in postings of the past 2-3 pages. I’d say the ratio of dialogue vs fluff comments vs trolls are like 50:30:20. Look at the GH4 reviews post, for instance. Admin got no complaints from me.
Admin cannot do anything about it, thus I am not complaing about him, it is more the genreal state of the discussions. And there are of course normal dialouges, but don’t you think 20% (I think it is more like 30-40% in the posts that I am interested in) troll posts is not a lot? And because we try to fight them, those posts become big and thus more annoying….. ;)ä
I like this site, don’t get me wrong.
Who cares?