Digicameinfo leaked the first pictures of the Panasonic DMC-TZ100. The camera will be announced on January 5 at the CES show next week. The known specs so far are:
– 20.1MP 1 inch sensor
– 25-250mm f/2.8-5.9 lens
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62 Responses
May be they bought it ready made from Sony?
yeah. appear like… the rx100 serie!
but with a bigger zoom.
now i need to know witch f/ have and i think dosn’t be’ll a costant f/2.8
2.8 – 5.9 10 x zoom…
Would they lose many customers if it had been a faster than f5.9 4 x zoom?
Yeah, most people I know with little knowledge of camera’s won’t buy a camera with less then 10 times zoom. They want to zoom because their smartphone can’t.
Actually I find this camera quite interesting as wel. For HQ 4x zoom camera’s we already have good option’s like Sony rx100 or Panasonic lx100.
Yes, possibly the number of people with little knowledge outnumber the rest 😉
And yes, it makes sense not to release a camera that would compete with the lx100 (yet).
For travel cameras, the sweet spot is a focal length range of 24mm to 200mm, as in Sony’s RX10 camera. That FL range covers 90% of most any traveler’s needs. The RX100 Mark III has a more limited range of 24-70mm, which is OK at the wide end but not long enough at the telephoto end for travel photography. I base this on my own travel photography experience over the past 10 years with a half-dozen ZS cameras, the RX10, the RX100 and RX100 Mark III, all of which I have owned and taken with me on various trips. The TZ100 lens is a bit slower than I’d like, but just as important to me will be the speed and accuracy of the camera’s autofocus. Those specs need to be first-rate.
Yes, I imagine they’d lose all of them.
If it’s a 4x zoom only, why buy this over an RX100, G7X, G5X, or LX100?
This is a unique selling proposition – large sensor, long zoom, compact form factor. There’s nothing else that looks like this on the market.
OK, can’t call myself an expert on compact zoom cameras. Don’t think I ever owned a compact that zoomed over 100mm equivalent. The last couple of years I haven’t even had a compact, nor zooms.
Probably 90% of compact cameras sold zoom over 100mm, and 9.5% have 1″ sensors in them…
The last one I owned was the LX3, in the pre-1″ sensor era, but not really one of the 90%.
Seriously. It is obvious that this camera has waayyy more controls buttons and direct functions than any Sony RX
and hopefully Touch LCD – so amazing how Sony will not implement Touch LCD and Touch shutter on their cameras ( except for one model ) while they make millions of smart phones all with Touch LCD’s 🙂 and of course Fuji will never ever introduce a Touch LCD 🙂 the Purists do not like it – we will need to wait for the generation of Purists to get very old before Fuji might re-think that
Well it has less than a RX10 or RX1 series, but 3 buttons more than a RX100. Not sure that constitutes “wayyy more controls buttons and direct functions”…
The sensor is probably Sony. Looks like they have the 1 inch market cornered.
Screen looks fixed ?
Nice, GM5 or LX100 size? Personally want something similar to the Canon G5X lens spec: 24-100mm, F1.8-2.8.
Another long zoom camera finally have 1″ sensor .
Compact digital cameras nowadays need to have at least 1″ sensor in order to survive / compete
against phone cameras .
Pana do it right this time but I wonder what does it do with 43 rumors here ?
Nope. We need a 1-inch sensor camera that is weather proof. All the current rugged cameras are crap. The first rugged 1-inch camera to market would separate itself greatly from phone cameras and would truly be getting it right.
I would go for that, couldn’t agree more. Or if it had a fixed w/a lens, it could be
micro 4/3 or even APS-C (picture a waterproof version of a Ricoh GR).
Leica are bringing out a waterproof X Type 113.
Want to bet it costs as much as a small submarine?
With a periscope instead of an EVF 😉
Count me in.
We’re becoming a niche market 😉
Pretty sure the Nikon AW1 is the first 1″ waterproof camera.
agreed…. can’t wait for a Rugged underwater 1″ sensored camera!
Please read rhe subtitle of this website’s header image.
It should read 4/3, 1″ and whateva …any manufacturer and we throw in FF sometimes too!
LOL!
I am glad Panasonic is now coming out with a larger sensor compact –
I sure do not mind occasional none M4/3 rumor or news – as there is of course a limit to what is happening in the M43 world – the bottom line is most love M43 for size – and so when we see sensors getting larger in small body cameras I think we want to know –
Oly should also start thinking about a real power-compact, like Sony did with RX series, Canon with G-X, and now Panasonic. Stylus 1 is dated, has a too small sensor… So : 4/3 sensor, ibis, weathersealing, good ergonomics without being full of humps and so (ever tried to put a stylus 1 in your pocket, seriously ?). Pocketability and simplicity. EVF, why not ? Zoom ? maybe a short range but i’d prefer without. Oh, and no video mode at all. Make it something like 500-600 € and I’m in !
Built in flash too please for fill
Built-in flash, but no popup evf “à la RX100″… This popup thing is plain stupid.
I’ll never get people asking for no video. I mean, I don’t use it either but how does it bother you? That’s just some software tricks mostly…
I had a Panasonic compact with similar spec (but 1/2.3 sensor,
and no VF) for some years – useful despite its shortcomings. This new one looks a very promising carry round pocket camera.
4K? VLOG? aha RX100m3…
The lens is very different from RX100mk3 or 4.
Panasonic has a new compact toaster coming out this week, too.
🙂
First pictures leaked. New “Barney-Capture” Organic Sensor Technology offered in top model.
http://techreleased.techreleased.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Panasonic-Toaster.png
Means what ?
The Digital Organic Sensor not far from behind ?
BTW , what this Barney doing here ?
Like bees to honey!
🙂
You know….Barney Tech….Special purple-wavelength technology.
Here is the website
http://www.barney.com/usa
Hope it has 4K! Pity about the slow lens, but I guess that is needed to keep it compact with a large sensor.
But I’d rather they’d make a compact one with a small prime lens fixed on it with a 1″ sensor, such as a 13mm (35mm FF equivalent) f/1.2 lens! (or I’d settle for f/1.4 if the camera is really cheap/small 😛 )
the slow lens is needed to keep that long zoom – I would have preferred a 24-100mm F1.8-2.8 to compete with the RX100m4 and Canon G7X/G5X – but if it stays F2.8 till 100mm then that would be interesting – but I really do not think that is the case – I suspect it is at F4 at 100mm and 5.9 at 150mm till end –
I hope Panasonic come out with a direct competitor to the RX100m4 at $200 less –
now the RX100m4 is $999 which is crazy as the main sales ploy is the 4K – and in reality it can only reach 5min max – and in warm weather only about 3min – so pretty useless for 4K – Image quality is the same as the RX100m3 which has the same sensor as the Panasonic has – but of course there are some other advantages of the new sensor for video – but for Stills not much other then faster frame rate –
I just think if Panasonic offered a 24-100mm F1.8-2.8 1 inch sensor with EVF and 4k that can last more then 5 min and for $800 or less they had a clear winner and would sell well – but seems Panasonic did not want to compete head on – so opted for a longer reach lens – which is OK – but I wish they come out with also the aforementioned specs camera – why not – Canon has pumped out G7X – G3X – G9X and G5X all in a short time and all with the same Sony sensor 🙂 and for a reasonable price
I really wish it was a little faster at the tele end. Maybe a 2-2.8 or even a 2.8-4.
Then you end up with something the size of the FZ1000.
Large sensors and long zoom ranges require compromises.
I agree – I was hoping for a competitor to the RX100m4 and Canon G7x/G5x – with 4k – real 4k – not just a 3-5min 4K 🙂 but I agree I would have preferred a 24-100mm F1.8 – 2.8 – hopefully they will release another model like that
The RX100 manages to do it and stay very compact. Of course, you pay almost $1000 USD for it though.
Did you read the zoom range on this? It’s 25-250mm! 3.5x longer than the RX100. Longer than the RX10! That’s why it’s slow…because it fits in your pocket.
Holy crap, no. I assumed it was a standard 28-70is zoom.
I got really interested when I saw the viewfinder.
Right in between G3x and G5x, with a better form-factor than both. Hopefully, at a decent price, not $900.
yes but slower lens but longer – I was hoping a 24-100mm F1.8-2.8 – but hopefully there will be another TZ … to compete with the very expensive RX100m4 and the Canon G7X – I am saying fine to have a super compact with this long reach but of course the lens slows down and low light ability suffers –
I expect the price to be lower then the RX100m4 – my guess it will cost $750-$800 – I suspect it will have 4k
We have plenty offerings at those specs. Nikon will come out with 24-85mm F1.8-2.8 perhaps at CES in February. I missed exactly a more versatile camera like this. Was hoping for brighter lens (at least at the short end) but we should see the other specs first. Shame for the non-tilting display, thoght…And I am a bit concerned about the ergonomics – no thumb rest. But it i definatel something different from all the others. So it should find its customers.
“I was hoping a 24-100mm F1.8-2.8”
That would directly compete with a Canon (G7x and G5x), and it is hard to directly compete with a Canon. And with Sony RX100 Mk 3 and 4 too. That market is already largely taken, 4 other cameras years ahead of Pana. Pana aimed in the premium travel zoom niche which is still wide open (G3x is too big for a travel zoom, the rest lack range for a travel zoom). I think from commercial standpoint they are right – if they price it right too, it should be below FZ1000 obviously, and then will be viable in the market. Especially at $499 or below, it could enjoy healthy sales. Above $500, psychologically, people don’t like compacts in my opinion, at least in the states. Will be hard to sell.
It will likely be in the $500-800 range. The specs are too high-end for it to be otherwise. Even the ZS50 is $400.
But it is also 30x zoom, vs only 10x in the TZ100. Sure, bigger sensor justifies higher price. And for other markets it might even work, I don’t know. I am just telling you my feeling about US market. It TZ100 is 600+, while FZ1000 is $580 on Amazon now, and plenty of Rebels etc kits in the same range, it is simply not going to sell well. Bigger is simply considered as more valuable here, and FZ1000 and the Rebels ARE in fact more valuable according to their features and performance. Again, it is not Japan.
Maybe? It just seems strange to gloss over the RX100, which is by far the most popular compact in this class, and it sells firmly in the $500-1000 range.
If people can see the value proposition in an RX100, an RX100 with a slower but much more versatile lens seems like a winner. Here’s hoping it has a touchscreen…that would be icing on the cake, and leaving it out would be very disappointing.
RX100 does not sell in 500-1000 range, it fell below $400 a long time ago. If talking about Mk3 and Mk4, what is your source for you data? Because our stores all prefer to stock and sell G7x instead. Even Costco.
Is this the first time a camera maker is putting the 35mm equivalent on the lens barrel?
The actual lens does say the true 9.1-91mm focal length, though.
4/3 DSLR lenses used to have a 35mm equivalent sticker on them, I believe.
FZ1000 does too.
looks like the LCD does not Tilt ? that would be shame – hopefully it has Touch LCD and the menu system from the G series and hopefully lens does not step down to F4.0 till 100mm – ( dreaming )
I do hope Panasonic come out with a direct competitor to the Sony RX100m4 – but with a 24-100mm F1.8-2.8 lens – EVF – Tilt LCD – Touch LCD and Touch Shutter – and 4k that can record over 5min 🙂 – ND filter – and priced at $750-800 –
This model is fine for those who are needed more reach over low light ability –
Canon has produced 4 models with a 1 inch in about a year – The G7X – G3X – G5X and G9X so Panasonic should be able to introduce another model – with the above specs – I really think they can do it for that price – it would really challenge the RX100m4 or RX100m5 that is coming next year as the RX100m4 4k implementation is a total failure with 3-5min max 4k recording depending on the weather 🙂
I really think Panasonic can pull it off – in a smaller body then the G7X or G5X – I do have both the RX100m4 and the G7X and I think Panasonic would combine best from both –
Is that a tilting display? Probably not, or is it?
was just about to splurge on rx100 mk iv. More info please!
It should have 4K, since there are 4K photo buttons.