Highly trusted sources just told us the new Panasonic GX8 will feature a new 20 Megapixel sensor. I am yet not sure this is actually the new Sony MFT sensor I spotted a while ago on Sony.net.
The camera also records 4K and will be announced on July 16 at 5-6am London time. As usual you can follow the live-blogging here on 43rumors!
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Seems like if the MP count doesn’t change, usually by increasing, there is no way they can pass anything as a new sensor. Even a new sensor…
new sensor,new sensor!!!
but no detail about sensor,it’s new that true because non exist 20MP on 4/3 or M4/3.
At least! Only the resolution hold me back from buying micro 4/3.
Finally new high MP sensor! Time to invest some money!
The difference in resolution is about 12%. I can’t see that making much difference.
You need 64mp to double the resolution of a 16mp sensor.
Oh and if it is going to be a Sony sensor, I hope it wont have the same banding problems this time around..
It would be highly ironic for GX8 to have problems with the most popular m43 lens, the Pana 20mm.
The new sensor will deliver superfine pictures up to ISO 6400!
Only 20 Mpix :/ hoped for a higher jump concerning resolution. The excellent mft optics should deliver …
but equivalent mast convert it will be 80MP on FF or 40MP on APS?
that it still noticeable resolution on studio test.
20MP 43 is not 40MP on APSC.
how to compare?
It could very well be Panasonic’s own new 20MP sensor. Wheter from Sony or from Panasonic, more important to me is not the resolution increase, but better DR, sensitivity and noise performance.
In that vein, the new Sony sensor might basically be an upscaled version of the 16MP sensor in the E-M5, instead of a new sensor generation. Same is true if it is a Panasonic sensor.
One thing is for certain. The Sony 20mp sensor described above has a much faster sensor readout that could support full sensor 4k @ 24p instead of the current crop 4k. Also, the faster sensor readout would support an electronic shutter in 12 bit mode so no loss of dynamic range like the existing m43 sensors.
Actually Sony says 27fps @AllPixels, but video is 16:9 instead of 4:3. So it is possible to get full pixel readout at over 30fps. Assuming no further cropping, it will be a 15MP Bayer image, downsampled to 4K, which could be really bad ass – essentially free of moire and aliasing, and superb resolution.
Finally .
Cheers for new sensor sensor !!!
Hai, sensei!
GX is true Pana flagship camera , this explain why it always have newer sensor
than the rest .
Kudos to GX .
I’d give the GH a chance at that crown…
i guess FZ300 & GX8 have same image sensor,
they want full readout on video mode? how to do?
only way ,5.4K readout downscale to 4K(5.4K~ 19.78MP)
It’s still too early to conclude anything .
Let’s wait for report to come out .
DXO for example .
DxO is a joke.
Remember their “rating” for the GX7?
Although the GX1 had a new sensor, the whole camera was far from compelling. So just because the GX7 had a new generation sensor, doesn’t mean every new GX series camera will have a great new sensor.
The GX1 had the G3 sensor.
I was wondering what would be the first m4/3 to use the IMX269. But there is a catch – it’s a Exmor sensor, then it is not a BSI (Exmor R) or stacked (Exmor RS) sensor; then the gains in low light provided by the BSI technology will not be present, and with the higher MP count the high ISO images could suffer… :/
I prefer every day to have more ISO sensitivity and DR against more MP. But people are more interested in bragging rights than in photography…
Wanting it to replace my beloved GX7, I hope that the image quality do not suffer.
Based on the results from the sony 1″ stacked sensor there is not improvement in ISO or DR. Even Sony says the main benefits are faster sensor readout for video.
I have the original non-BSI RX100 and I never bothered upgrading to the new BSI RX100 as the gains in RAW were only about 1/3 stop. Too much is being made of BSI and stacked sensor.
The reality is that sensor technology advances are slowing. Other advances such as fast sensor readout and faster continuous focus is where the advances will come from now.
Maybe (just guessing here) because of the high pixel density of the RX100 sensores (20mp in 1 inch) the gain in light gathering was minimal as you noted. But in the Samsung NX1 BSI gave very good results (a 28mp sensor with the light sensivity of a 24mp sensor).
Exciting
Potentially, if M 4/3rd’s is half of FF (which it is), then there is a possibility that the sensor for M 4/3rd’s could be as high as half the biggest FF sensor (within reason for technical aspects). So, Canon has a 50 megapixel, can a 24 megapixel M 4/3rd’s be far behind?
nope,4 time ,20mp is same 80MP on Full Frame.
4/3 had 1/4 area on 35mm sensor.
Panasonic, make me smile with very clean 3200iso & 8 stops of DR RAW 3200iso (than 7 DR for 6400iso) – I mostly shoot people in lower lighting.
http://digicame-info.com/2015/07/dmc-gx8.html
images of GX8
look little ugly but i don’t care.
specs make it change
Is this a fully articulating screen in the last picture?
weather proof,yes that screen like EM5II&G7
Thanks .
But why it look like pro a a6000 design ( the grip ) more than LX100 ?
It’s good that it looks more like a GX7 than a LX100.
New 2 AXIS IS?!
LOOOOOL
It doesn’t say 2 “AXIS”….
Google translation says “shake compensation with new dual IS”. Whatever that means – either 2-axis IBIS or cooperation of IBIS + OIS. I think it is 2-axis IBIS, similar to the GX7’s one.
P.S. Support for both QR and NFC is a nice touch.
No click dial on the back? Looks believable, since Pana started removing it on the other cameras too.
But it looks like the GX8 has 3 dials in total: dedicated exposure compensation, dial on the on/of switch and dial under the shutter speed.
That grip with the shutter button on top is a big egonomic improvement 🙂
Nice specs!
Big improvement!
Yes, Panasonic actually listened!
Finally another small camera that will fit my hand as well as my Nex 5n.
because of the glacial pace of work at Fuji, this Panasonic gx8 is compelling for me personally as a run-around shooter
20 MP is fine as long as there’s an increase in dynamic range and less noise at higher ISOs.
How about doing something radical like ISO50?
Glad to see a return of the fully-articulated screen!
BUT, a loss of the click wheel is real mistake. It’s so flexible and intuitive, especially for shooting with manual lenses.
I’m not a fan of an exposure compensations dial, why not a real shutter speed dial like a real camera? ? I’d much rather see a drive dial (single, continuous, timer, etc.)
“…I’m not a fan of an exposure compensations dial…” Neither am I!
care to explain why?
I use it all the time and find it essential – it’s one of the first features I look for when considering cameras.
Most of the time I shoot in Aperture priority, and then Shutter priority when I want either high or low shutter speed – other modes remaining mostly unused. The way I work is I choose the one main parameter (with autoISO clipped at 1600) and the camera proposes ‘proper’ exposure.
When the liveview results don’t please me I use exposure compensation to get what I want. Most of the time that’s underexposing 1/3rd of a stop to have some deeper color saturation, or overexposing up to 1 stop when I think the image is too dark overall.
So in this regard, the main parameter is my conscious choice and the exposure compensation my creative choice. (keeping an eye on ISO to see where it’s at)
That’s exposure for me – and this leaves me free to consider other stuff when taking a picture.
So I’m curious to know what you don’t like about exposure compensation, as it’s my main tool almost.
(I must add perhaps that I do like the feel of this on Olympus, but when I pick up my girlfriend’s Panasonic, I really dislike the exposure compensation button/dial – going against my intuition of using exposure compensation creatively.)
Why is your smug mug shot all over the Internet along with your constant moaning about a features you think are missing and why your opinion matters!
What’s an asshat hiding behind a dopey handle complaining about?
GX-7 = 4 Fn but GX-8 = 2 Fn only ?
Where is front and back dials from GX-7 for aperture and shutter speeds changing?
Look at the pictures. Front dial around the shutter release & rear dial on top plate.
Noticed, thanks. And there are 3 Fn.
Looks like a winner. Sign me up
Who give’s a Ratz Azz who made the sensor!! Not me. All I care about is how well it works.
Maybe the “no new sensor” people can give it a rest for a while now.
I doubt it. They will cry something like “why not 24mp”.
This is gonna get murdered by the Sony A7000…