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It looks like the em5 while using the grip:)
It looks like an OM-D with a large grip.
We’re all going to have to get used to the fact that the original camera in the line cannot be referred to as the “OM-D” anymore. OM-D is a product line, like Pen is, while E-M5 and now E-M1 are models. So, you mean that the E-M1 looks like an E-M5 with a big grip, as it doesn’t just look like an OM-D with a big grip … it is an OM-D with a big grip! 😉
I think it looks like a combination of E-M5, E-P5 & E5 with some design ideas from elsewhere (like the dial shape power switch on the left with two buttons on top looking similar to Nikon).
Omfg, I hope this is a mocked cam, not the final design. Otherwise this is the ugliest m43 camera yet.
Of course it’s a mock.
True Olympus do an new E-M1 this next two week. 😛
But look like an twist by E-620 and OM-2. LOL
Huh? It looks awesome, just by watching i can imagine how good it will sit in hand. e-m5 handling was biggest problem, it was beyond bad. Looks like this will be first oly camera that can stand near panasonic G and GH cameras in terms of handling. Lets see, if menus are also improved.
Agree
I hope this is some joke, controlled leak. I mean Engadget slipped pretty big and the video is still up, it wasn’t even a hidden link, it was found via Google. and the video is still not taken down. Maybe intentional?
Looks faked. Like glued together. Don’t believe this is the real thing.
I tend to agree, there is a visible joint between grip and body on the front which simply does not look right, I cannot believe the fact there is no alignment of the grip material and the body, nope, its a mock up.
If you use higher resolution and full screen there is no gap or ‘strange joins. It is simply a “soft feel” cover
If you look at 1 min 22 secs into the video it shows a nice flow round it is NOT a joint.
That’s because he’s holding a mock-up one & the working model is on the tripod, with a different front dial. The grip might be just a mock-up too as it has the same front dial as the hand held body.
My mistake as I was looking at low res video images. The dials all look the same in detail.
It may be good, but it’s the ugliest camera of the year 🙂
Ugly. Looks like a mock up. The lines are not finished or clean. I’m not impressed. The final production model will undoubtedly be more refined.
You got to be kidding. The grip looks like it’s glued on.
OMFG, it’s like so totally retro, they even included a film rewind crank!!
I agree. It doesn’t look real. Also, butt ugly.
Very interesting indeed!
extremely ugly.. too much retro.. extremely disappointed
being top of the line model.. at least they should scale back the “retroness”
I like that VF4 sized eyepiece, and I believe that one shot shows the adapter as that’s a 4:3 lens. Personally, a slightly larger OM-D e-M5 is fine, the mix of buttons seems to match the earlier text descriptions. despite the insant hate reactions, I think it’s rather cool and makes no mistakes, PEN and OM-D are different approaches.
Looks very solid. Excellent size (identical to OM designs). Remote control through WiFi is impressive. Wish it had no grip, but I imagine the battery is larger and requires more space.
It looks like a pre-production as the finish quality doesn’t look perfect.
I think they’ve got this spot on for four-thirds users but I wonder how well it balances with bigger lenses.
Especially weird is that the rubber part of the grip does not align with the rubber part on the body. This is not a question of finish, so I wonder if it can be fixed.
That’s the worst part of the body for me as well. The transition of the grip to the body should be way more “continuous”… Oo I am also wondering how that new dial with the AF stuff on it is supposed to work.
But apart from these things I kind of like the design and the buttons and dials seem to be more ergonomically placed and are also bigger! Let’s all wait for our final judgments. 😉
It’s not a production model.
I know, but just from that sample/mockup, it is its ugliest part. Otherwise I like that grip design wise. 😀
Look at 1 min 22 secs into the video and see with light on it and pause. It shows a nice flow round it is NOT a joint.
Thanks Jim. I did & realised too many of us are judging on a poor quality compressed video image.
Watch the video. It’s basically a E-M5 with a glued on grip, more buttons, two more dials, VF-4 and of course phase detection – but he makes it sound like it’s either or – so Phase Detection cannot be used to support m43 lens focus. It’s also freeze prove now, yay.
So, basically an entirely different camera? 😀
Where are the 2 new dials? That shoulder AF/Drive mode thing could be on dial (with buttons on it), but I cannot find a 2nd one.
The two dials are on the right (from behind) as the E-M5 & E-P5 (with the E-P5 switch for dual use of the dials) & on the left the ‘dial’ is actually the power switch lever.
Then @Narretz probably meant that 2×2 dial use, because he states 2 more dials. Okay, now I got it.
haha people are saying it’s ugly like that’s ever stopped the GH line or any DSLR
The GH’s all looked good to me. GH1 was the best looking of th 3 IMO
I look THROUGH my GH2, not at it! 😉
Sure the GH-series are kind of ugly, but in a form follows function kind of way, not form for the sake of form, usability be damned. GH handling and ergonomics are great.
This thing looks like they’re trying to at least acknowledge that there’s something called ergonomics. That stuck-on, unaligned at the top, grip is really laughable. The witches hat EVF hump is pretty nasty, too, but if they manage to improve the handling over the EM5, it’s all good. It could be pretty compelling for a lot of users.
This is WAY uglier than a GH2 or GH3!!
But I don’t really care how it looks, as long as it works. And we have a long wait before we know that.
I LIKE it and I can’t wait any longer to have it in my hands! Oly made something different and so special from all the other brands on the market. Never mind about the price, 1.500,00 euro are very well invested. Olympus is a brand to trust! I’m an Olympus addicted since I was 16 and now I’m 56! Great life to Olympus and camera creates by the engineers
The video looks pretty real to me. And I guess the camera will be announced this month (next week?), not in late September.
Not the best looking camera around 😉
Basica.ly it looks like an OMD -Em5 + Grip + some more buttons: people that didn’t like OMD shape won’t like it either, obviously.
Nice to hear that now it’s freeze free too until -10 degrees Celsius (though I have used Em5 at these low temperatures without problems).
I like how it works linked to a tablet, though I would rarely use it.
If it’s worth 1500 €?
For me not, but if I had some 43 super lenses I’d buy it on day one.
Of course they won’t since this is an OM-D. Those time were you could refer to the E-M5 as an OM-D are almost over. 😉
At first glance it looks rather ugly but I think it would grow on you. I do see that there doesn’t appear to be any user customized settings on the mode dial, but that could probably be customized. Interested to see what’s on the left side of the camera but nice to see a AF/MF switch and an AF-On as well.
Ummmm. It is really ugly if its real. It kinda looks like a bunch of pieces put together. But I don’t care about how the camera looks. If its comfortable to hold and works well I am game. If the gremlin I mean OMD 1 has better video codec options a mic input, same or better sensor performance I’ll put my order in. But this is one really ugly camera lol
Very ugly.
That grip looks very sexy to hold on… could be a bit of a Frankencamera but with great ergonomics.
I agree. Having owned OM-2 and OM-4 film cameras, and never warming up to the EM-5 styling (prism too pointy and sharp angles), I can live with this. It looks like a cross between the E-5 and the OM-4. That grip looks out of place on what is still a very small body. But when it’s swallowed up by your hand, with the enlarged and knurled controls nearby, you’ll be praising the gods for the ergonomic perfection! ;)) It looks like it has an OM styled power switch to the left of the prism too, much better positioned than on the EM-5. If the big grip holds a bigger battery and/or two memory cards, and if the pdaf allows for good focus tracking with m43 lenses it’ll be a winner for me. I’m assuming it carries all E-P5 improvements like shutter speed and ISO and tweaked IBIS, plus higher resolution rear screen with more accurate color matched to viewfinder.
I like, I’m in.
I think the final product will have this shape, for me is good because basically looks an E-m5 with more grip and more dedicated button, but for 4/3 users…i don’t know how this thing can be well balanced with a 50-200 or even bigger lenses.
Having used the E-M5 with the 50-200 quite a bit, with and without grip, with and without the battery part, and having used OM-1 with a variety of big and heavy lenses, Minolta Dynax 5 with a 70-200/4, 300/4 prime and a whole lot of big lenses… I’d say, learn proper handling technique, and especially when it is a bit bigger and heavier then the E-M5, this should be totally workable.
It won’t be if you think using such a camera + lens combination single handed isn’t a case of bad technique, but that is really your own problem, not the least because of the stresses you are putting on the mount and the frame the mount is fixed to. Doing camera repairs gives me quite an idea of how that bad technique causes problems with light seals, weather sealing and even proper alignment over years of usage.
Cool! Shoot a photo, then immediately detach the lens and store it, reattach after two minutes, etc. Or walk around carrying the camera with both hands.
Or carry it single handed by the lens, or even lens + body.
The grip looks like a patch job – an after thought.
if you expect fluent lines in an OM based camera, then you prob dont grasp the whole idea behind this body.
look at 1.22 in the vido its part of the camera.
I’m sure it’ll be a great camera, but christ that thing is ugly. There’s knobs and dials sticking out everywhere and the overall shape looks plain bad.
Also lol @ the Olympus rep calling P-mode the “picture” mode in between breathing and puffing like he just ran a marathon.
Something to take notice!
The 5-axis test is in a video monitor, so? clean live hdmi output?
yes thats a logical conclusion
This is disappointing. Where’s the sexy looking omd which we all dying for? If I wish to have such a big grip. I must as well get a dslr with this price. What is olympus thinking if this’s real?
They are thinking exactly right, this is top tier meant for heavy usage by demanding people. And can support awesome, but big 43 glass. Still get lighter and smaller package on average than a dslr, even if you use some cheapest crap dslr body.
Or you expect all new releases to match exactly what you want? There is plenty of body choice. GX7, E-P5 both are small and have lots of features and good evf’s
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I totally agree wth you. Why do m43 people think that any body should be also for them and if the body does not fit their photography than it is a bad body…
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1.) It is an early “pre-production” model which means it was assembled by hand purely for demo purposes for reps, training, etc. Wasn’t meant for public viewing You see this with most new cameras. Odds are the rough spots will be smoothed out and more cohesive in final production.
2.) Not an EM-5 replacement, therefore isn’t meant to look like and EM-5. Frankly I don’t think it looks bad at all. Just different. But then some people just don’t like “different”.
3.) Despite the rough spots, I look at the ergonomics and control placements. This is to me, as a photographer, much more important then the looks. Only handling will tell if the design works, but it looks okay on initial view.
4.) So far looks good to me, a camera that I would be very interested in.
No mention of video features and didn’t see a mic input. So probably same mic adapter and no better video codecs/bit rate
Bad assumption since they didn’t show the ports or anything on the left side. The details will come out soon enough.
My old OM-1 with motor winder looked way more beautiful than this abortion. And I could disconnect the motor-winder any time I wanted. Wonder if this is some kind of prank? Maybe Olympus has decided that the future lies in selling very ugly handgrips rather than cameras? Who knows? Yuk!
Ugly indeed. But might just be real with deliberate intend to mask certain things. The top dial looks like that’s a HDR function. It’s missing the focus assist lamp. 2 additional front buttons may be for DOF preview / WB buttons. PC terminal is something thing OMD doesn’t have and we may finally get another fully articulated screen! Looks like a workhorse to me.
The focus assist lamp is near the “OM-D” badge, in the junction of the grip.
That focus assist lamp can’t work in that location. Fingers will block it partially. So the final grip will have to be slimmer than on this mockup.
Agree about the two front buttons. E-1 (and probably 3 & 5) had a cool one touch custom white balance feature that I’d like to see carried forward to this model. It makes sense to carry as many cool features as possible from E-5 – continuity for them, new features for the m43 crowd.
He said nothing about video features, which probably means this isn’t a prioritized area for Olympus. Like always…
Yeah, I kept waiting to hear that Oly finally was going to catch up in video, something they need to do for sales. They can’t just let the GH3 get it all (meaning corporate, media, journalist, etc. interest). Catering to geezers who have 4/3 lenses is not going to cut it.
However, it does seem like a good effort and perhaps this particular video (assuming it’s real) just wanted to emphasize other advantages. Really liked the demo of the stabilization.
An the demo run in a video monitor 😉
“Yeah, I kept waiting to hear that Oly finally was going to catch up in video, something they need to do for sales.”
Before, they were partnering up with Panasonic who has huge stake in video.
Now, they are partnering up with Sony who has huge stake in video.
I personally do not expect for anything to change. On one side Oly lacks expertise. On the other side, its partners would be very “generous” at trying to convince Oly to not to persuade video improvements.
If you want 5-axis IBIS in video, then probably you should keep a watch on coming Sony cameras.
You’re probably right, sad to say.
is there a converter mounted when the 4/3 lens mounted?
cannot understand
In the video on engadget.com, they are using a regular MMF-3.
Looks absolutely stunning – I’m in!
Looks special with the 43 lens. I wonder how the cam could handle the size of the 50-200mm SWD and other big 43 lenses.
One of my big wishes: The batteries should be able to change while the camera is mounted.
Also I hope this combination looks awesome and not to crazy 🙂
You know that with the E-M5, when using the battery grip, not only can you change the battery when the camera is tripod mounted, you can do so while it is running (ie, recording video) without interruption.
Without (complete) hld-6 you obviously can’t. Hope they fix that, but somewhat doubt it due to the size of the camera.
yea quite ugly,
but I have to buy it, no other choice.
If not E-7 come, i need two E-5, anyway i can life by the, but here is the very good space for an realy FT pro camera. Folk so will have an up grad from E-5 will have an LCD screen on top, and an realy swing screen for live view and build so an TANK.
As expected, this camera has about 15 buttons less than what could be considered useful for a pro body, on top of being really tiny and AGAIN having the idiotic strap lugs.
Game over. Time to switch to Canikon. Loved the lenses, but Olympus keeps being stupid. Can’t tolerate that any longer. At least when Canikon switches to mirrorless, they’ll keep the bodies regular size, instead of producing cameras sized for extremely small women.
You know what they say if you bitch about size of your tools?
I really do not understand this comment. Are you trying to be ridiculous? Really, Canikon MILCs have kept DSLR size? Was I daydreaming or what happened to Nikon 1 and EOS M? I really must have been seeing things…..
Man, I hate comments like mine (this one) making fun of other people, just because there is this whole internet in between, but that comment is just ridiculous and know I fed the troll, right?
BTW: If you like the lenses, then get yourself and GH3 and partner it with them.
Ah, right. So you’re one of those people who believe that even 50 years from now, Canikon will keep mirrors in their camera bodies. Or if they switch to mirrorless, a 1DX will be reduced to the size of a matchbox, just because “OMG mirrorless has to be small”.
No. That’s not how it’s going to be. Their transition will be seamless. Now you have a D7200/70D with a mirror and OVF, next you’ll have a D7300/80D with no mirror and an EVF, but the body is going to stay exactly the same size. The lenses are going to work perfectly, the grips are going to stay compatible, etc. And that’s because Canikon actually thinks and cares about their users. Olympus does not.
A “pro” camera the size of a pack of cigarettes, with only 5 buttons, SD cards, no top LCD, no flash… LOL. Olympus is now officially a fashion accessory maker.
No I am not. But Canikon already have MILC and they are small and Nikon’s is using a 1″ sensor! And who says that Olympus and Panasonic won’t have “DSLR” MILCs in 50 years, which the GH3 already is? This OM-D seems to be large enough for most m43 and 43 lenses and maybe there will be an even bigger model in sometime?
Those are toys, and you know it. They just threw some pieces covered in glue together and what stuck together are the EOS-M and the 1. When they go mirrorless, and they will, it’s going to be like I said – a seamless transition, without size reduction and with full backwards compatibility.
Even if you stick three grips on the E-M5 or the E-M1, the fact still remains that those cameras are missing “pro” features – and those would be buttons, the top LCD, XQD/CF cards, compatibility with old, trusted equipment, etc.
At the end of the day, the only m4/3 lenses which could compare to (S)HG 4/3 lenses are the 60mm and 75mm primes. Everything else is seriously sub-par. The Panasonic 12-35 and 35-100 lenses are nothing but average; and if you want a 50-200, it’s going to be very, very similar in size and weight to the old 4/3 version, unless it’s severely optically compromised.
And if you want to use 4/3 lenses, the amount of strain placed on the adapter and the mount is begging for trouble. I remember reading somewhere that there have been issues with the 7-14 4/3 because of the adapter flexing and ultrawide came out blurry.
This camera tries to fill a niche, but doesn’t manage. It’s not good for 4/3 E-x users and it’s not attractive to m4/3 users. There just is no point to it.
“I remember reading somewhere that there have been issues with the 7-14 4/3 because of the adapter flexing and ultrawide came out blurry.”
With a mirrorless that is not likely as the focus is done on the sensor. Top out compared to bottom! Maybe just a little. But not enough to see. (look at the earlier post of the exploded pany)
With a mirror on the other hand it may be possible to throw the mirror out of kilter with the sensor via a mount distortion as the focus is done on the mirror. Just shows the superiority of mirrorless. If a DSLR was being designed right now and someone said put a mirror in everybody would think them nuts. And rightly so.
Video seems to be gone?
Anyone do a capture?
It plays an advertisement first & then it follows. I just checked & it’s still there (but shouldn’t be).
It still there.
looks on top, sent some scrubbed stills to admin, on the top view you can see the red video button …
He did mention that the 5-axis I.S. works for video.
I kind of like the looks, utilitarian. Would love to get my hands on one, might be time to retire my E-System bodies.
The OMD already had this distinctive “german industrial design” look, but the PRO goes even further
I WANT ONE!
I don’t think the video quality does it justice & I wonder how long this video will be available for (too late, I’ve saved it) before it’s taken down. Also, could this mean the announcement is closer than we think?
The direct control buttons are certainly substantial (compared to the E-M5) & the switch for the dials usage like E-P5 is another good idea, but the power switch with the drive mode & AF/Exposure pattern select buttons looks a bit Nikon like, but I like it. Two buttons on the front would most likely be fully programmable with one being set at a default as Preview.
This certainly looks like it is well configured camera & should please many, even if some think this is ugly. Get over it! Pugs & other dogs can look ugly too, but their owners love them & I’m sure many owners should love this camera too.
Video still works!
http://www.engadget.com/video/5min/517895409/
Looks like a loveably ugly beast. It seems to have everything I have been waiting for the past 4 years. Finally I can hang my 12-60 from an m4/3 body and not get frustrated – presuming AF is really as fast and reliable as indicated.
I like the button and dial layout. Handling should be great, especially with the battery grip. Nice to see the coaxial PC connector and standard strap lugs. The eyecup is butt-ugly and I wonder how it fits when shooting vertically. I hope the grip material and fit and finish on the production model will look better than what I see in these first images and the video.
I’m in!
Oh NO… Olympus .
That is not a good looking camera as the EM5 before .
For E5 or DSLR owners might like it but not mFT community .
Please redesign it .
It’s awesome, amazing design and i didn’t use 43 at all. Finally an oly camera with really promising handling
lol … em1 is mean to be targeted 4/3 user group, why bother it when you have choice to choose ep5 gx7 etc.
The problem is that the E-M5 didn’t look good in the firs place, with a grip that doesn’t match and little things like a square lens-release makes it even worse.
Come on Olympus, if you’re not able to improve upon the original OM then don’t change it !
ok its a butt ugly pre production finish, but that aside, i like the buttons on the outside, the smaller form factor (hope they will have a bit smaller horizontal grip also.
the tethering could be nice (especially if you are a bird watcher and it can cover 30m
still hope that ugly top reveals a kind of build in flash which you can at least use to trigger your remote or in an emergency.
of course the price tag is shit and i would have loved a tilting vf like the panasonic gx7…
and we now know its going to be a adapter from m43 to 43…
Would like to see a pic of the actual camera which will be much more refined. But as an illustration of what we might expect it suits me fine. If we get genuine ‘pro’ build quality for £1500 I’ll have one.
yeah keep complaining all. I like it, The wider body due to the optimized grip is all what was needed for lenghty use, while holding it in your hand.
That’s what I am thinking, too. Now, I wish I had some 500€ extra cash! XD
I also agree with you. Hope they will have Em-5 and this model in those events just to compare, since I did not like how Em-5 felt combined with 4/3 lenses
Some people are just sooo hard to please, aren’t they? 😉
It certainly looks like they’ve tried to include everything that was asked for (don’t know about the video specs, but it’s got video anyhow) with substantial looking buttons & I like the look of the 4 way buttons with the knurled finish. It should have a positive feel about it. This is something that is going to remain a wish for me unless I win a lottery (which I don’t buy anyhow but I’m getting that included with a software purchase this week, so I can still hope).
Olympus – you can not be serious !!! This gotta a be a mockup.
i sure hope the production model cleans up a lot cuz it almost looks like the grip/rubber bits are glued on and look cheap.
I don’t really get todays people… Ugly? It’s a camera and a tool to make photos. This is not a fashion show, you spoiled brats of spoiled society. For me it looks normal, just maybe the control dial looks to big, but I am sure it’s for better ergonomics. Basically, if you are in for the looks for the camera, get the EP…whatever model, this is for professionals who care about the feel of the camera, comfort and better grip in tricky situations. Of course, I was hopping for detachable grip, but this will work fine for me too. Can’t wait to test it out in London after a month! I only wonder – is the screen tilt-able? Because I got used to my E-5…
It looks to be tilt only.
A tool? not for many gadgets collectors around here! 😉
Yeah, what does a photographer know about aesthetics and good looks? The most important thing in a photo is correct exposure and focus. We are not carpenters or dentists, you know…
However, surely E-m5, E-p5 and even E-pl5 and E-Pm2 looks better than this, more elegant.
But we talking about a camera designed as a E-5 successor, and there’s no DSLR-styled camera that can be defined as “beautiful”.
They are all function over look, and these E-m1 simply does the job.
From reading the comments, it seems we Olympus consumers don’t know what we want. If this is indeed the EM-1, preproduction or otherwise, it does look like Olympus has responded to those who said they wanted a better grip on the OM-D line. They gave it to us and now we are howling for their blood because it “looks ugly” which is at best subjective.
Just like the HLD grips for the E-System cameras, we told Olympus the HLD-2 was too expensive so they made a cheaper one, the HLD-4, for the E-3 and E-5. Rather than be happy they listened, we told them it was not a patch on the HLD-2.
don’t you realize that Forums were designed for WHINERS ????? If the occassional intelligent post comes along, it is completely coincidental.
Just be aware that the shots are made from close by, probably with a wide, so there is distortion.
Yes the grip is quite shocking but if you check it with the 14-54, it looks absolutely functional.
I enjoyed the presentation but just for that doubts it introduces about PDAF not helping new lenses. It’s only because he was trying to make a binary comparison. They are not talking about CAF, after all.
I am not going to get this camera, but I am impressed by the Eye-Fi control. and I like the new button placement.
I think the main question is still: is the End of the Line for 4/3 – as it should be, or will there be an E-7?
Because the old guard is fool enough to hold back in this case, just because of the no OVF.
In any case the most crazy wants to reshape the old forums at DPR in order to separate Oly from Panasonic.
Mr. Collbaxter does not want to share with the proles – LOL!
> I think the main question is still: is the End of the Line for 4/3 – as it should be, or will there be an E-7?
> Because the old guard is fool enough to hold back in this case, just because of the no OVF.
We lose the OVF – and fully articulated LCD apparently. And the E-x’s custom modes too.
I’m not sure that OVF alone is reason big enough to release E-7.
Another hint is the E-M1’s price: right there near the E-x.
IMO, there would be no E-7.
> In any case the most crazy wants to reshape the old forums at DPR in order to separate Oly from Panasonic.
You still lose sleep because of the 1022? 😀
Forum is a community. Historically, exclusive communities die out – inclusive ones thrive.
1041 (and 1042 to some extent too) on some occasions appears as a idealistic vision of future: there are no incompatible systems, there are no tech hurdles separating users, all people of all persuasions come and talk and show pictures.
That used to be my old forum, and there were quite a few good photogs, before the hate for everything non Oly dSLR took over.
In fact because of the bashing of m4/3 I was among the promoters of the split, deeming the progress of new technology more important than the split among the brands.
So yes you are right: the most inclusive forums are the most useful. However the DPR Overlords will come asking for a second time to split 1041 and that’s when the Blue Meanies will try to act.
They are simply too stoopid to understand that by now everbody has elements of both O&P.
No, No, NO!
There is only one reason for Olympus to release another E system camera, and that is profit.
Insufficient prospect of profit means no camera – end of story.
This is it. There will only ever be M system cameras that can autofocus E system glass.
Like it or lump it.
We can’t make assumptions that there will be future cameras to pull of this trick. My guess is that it does add to the cost of the body, and Oly will have to weigh in how longer it wants to keep supporting those lenses for a very limited amount of users.
Buyers have to consider too.. yes, Oly FINALLY gave us 4/3 owners a route to transition, but… what about the next model.. if that gives up the PDAF, then we still hit that dead end.
Nice, definitely going to buy this
Interesting video. On video capabilities: obviously, the presenter mentioned that the 5 axis IBIS works in video mode. It is a little bit disturbing that the presenter emphasized that PDAF works for 43 lenses — but did not say whether PDAF works for m43 lenses.
Personally, I found the grip looking a little bit too big for my liking, but it probably allows for improved layout of buttons, and improved ergonomics, overall.
Is it ugly? In my view, it looks better than the E-M5. I always thought the hump looks very emphasized on the E-M5 — kind of pointing — much more so than my OM-2. Less so for this model. Of course, taste etc. is something that it is difficult to agree on. So I’ll just say that those who find it ugly are clueless, from my point of view :-). I’m probably clueless from their point of view.
So, assuming that this is a real presentation, some key information lacking are:
* video capabilities, microphone input (not very important for me, but I see that it is important for others)
* Tracking AF quality
* Battery capacity. The grip seems so big that one could hope for an extra battery in the grip.
Also, what’s with the Oly US rep. stumbling over “four third… lenses”? And later he actually says Four Thirds. Is it the same as saying, “I’ll do the math for this” instead of “now lets do the maths for this” (like the rest of the English speaking world would say)? 😉
Maybe its time for them to accept they should have gotten over it. When English uses got not gotten a word not generally used in English since before the founding fathers departed.
Also route 66 was pronounced root 66 and even Columbo refers to roads “root” and says often “lets not go that route” pronouncing it root.
I dunno. Why don’t they speak propper inglissh like wot i doo. 😉
My favourite band: Motörhead
My favourite car: Land Rover Defender
My favourite camera: OMD-EM1
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Looks pretty real to me. Disappointed that you actually have to use an adapter for 43rd lenses. Looks professional though.
My next camera! Looks awesome.
If Engadget has the video, the announcement is imminent.
Too expensive for me personally, but I’m happy for the E-3/E-5 owners who finally get an upgrade.
If you guys are looking for a fashion accessory, maybe you should go get your ears pierced. This is a camera. So long as it isn’t painted in some look-at-me neon color it will do its job just fine, no matter how much it might clash with your stylish photographer’s outfit.
Just ugly like nikon V2, I can’tbelieve this is final product.
worst then v2, I honestly had a flash back of the Pentax Q when I saw this. I mean thats how this camera made me feel.
With the grip, looks large enough to handle my 4/3s lenses.
I like it so far, only reservation would be AEL button position being a left-eye shooter; other than that looks good.
ADMIN: How wide is the body please? Is it wider than the EM-5; i found this too narrow for what i wanted. Hopefully this body is wider, or at least looks it.
This is a leaked video. Why in the world do you think the Admin could answer that question?
The camera looks ugly on photos, but in the video is quite a surprise, nice surprise features!
It’s a camera for professionals no doubt!
That was my first thoughts too. But the video totally changed my mind
Gx7 will be my upgrade. This is for the gh3 market and prople with 43 lenses. Not for me.
The E-M5 looks graceful in comparison. Now I am curious about the entry level of the OM-D line. Keep in mind that they are 3 different interpretations of the same concept, so there is a camera for everybody.
IMHO the big mistake they did was not to put an EVF in the E-P5. I hope they reconsider, because otherwise *in that class* everybody will buy the GX7.
So far so good.
I want to know if it has a new processor to handle focus peaking.
Also, the screen doesn’t look fully articulated which is a bit disappointing.
Hope it has the build quality of the E-5.
Anyway I will not buy the pig in the sack this time. Waiting at least until next year so that I can feel the camera and also see what Sony brings to the table.
For me is pre-production model, maybe some kind of viral campaign 😉
But i do not think this is the real one, look how the lamp assistant is very tight against the grip, and the finish between the grip and the body in that area, at first i was thinking the grip was some how removable, but at the rear i see no separation with the body just in front area.
Anyways, until now i’m intrigued in a good way.
I would like to know if the full wifi mode could be added to E-P5 with a firmware update…
The features sound good, and I don’t mind the looks. The tablet interface for WiFi control is the best I’ve seen yet.
But did ya notice a couple of points re the AF system?
— He says you can use PDAF for 4/3 lenses and CDAF for Micro 4/3 lenses. Does that mean CDAF is NOT available for M43?
— He says PDAF focus with 4/3 glass is “almost as fast” as CDAF. As long as it’s at least as fast as an E-series camera, you 4/3 diehards have no reason to kvetch! But it’s interesting to have official confirmation that CDAF is inherently faster than PDAF, especially after all the hype we read on forums about PDAF being the be-all, end-all of focusing systems.
So will I buy one? Probably not: I don’t own any 4/3 lenses, I don’t take pictures outdoors when it’s 14F, and I like the option of removing the grip from my E-M 5 when I want a really small package. I like the WiFi but won’t spend the rumored US$1500 for that one feature.
It sounds more like a camera designed around the gripes of people who post on forums! But I’ll be those people just keep griping, instead of buying it (as demonstrated above.)
I meant, “Does that mean PDAF is not available for M43 lenses?” Too many acronyms…
M43 lenses are not designed for PDAF. Maybe Olympus could improve CAF by enabling PDAF for all lenses, but apart from that I don’t see any other reason for it to be used next to the fastest AF system out there.
Because PDAF can predict which direction the target comes from and goes to. An example they made for a Sony translucent is a bull at full speed towards you. CDAF will get confused.
Therefore Oly would be very stupid not to have implemented the feature for m4/3 too since it needs it for 4/3 lenses.
Admin –
any word on the EM6 (the replacement for the em5) being announced in sept? If so will any word if it will have the new sensor with PDAF?
I understand the EM1 will not replace the EM5, if that’s the case I hope the EM5 replacement will be the same size as the current em5, allowing me to use the HLD-6 on it.
Please share any info on this.
Thanks!
Going by those images, this makes the GH3 look pretty.
I think the GH3 is actually nice looking, I like the EM5 as well although I had trouble using it when I tried one out. This is the most ugly camera I have ever seen to be honest.
So its a GH3 for me now.
Changed my mind after looking at the vid. The shape reminds me of the E510/520 which I’ll have absolutely no problem with. Ergonomics seems fantastic and I’m quite hopeful its a fully articulated screen due to the bevel at the corner. The IBIS test is incredible. Focusing with the SWD lens via wifi is fast. It does look like olympus really want this to be their flagship model that answers to those who’s still holding on to their 4/3 lenses.
Good news is also that Olympus always uses there best sensor on al models. So we can see this sensor coming to all new Olympus m4/3 camera’s. So 4/3 enthusiasts (E-520, E-620) users can just wait for a lower end model that will be cheaper.
You’re right, I haven’t noticed the bevel. Really looks like a full articulated display.
Top left of the display has a tab for pulling out so its tilt not swivel.
Wouldn’t the articulation mechanism show left to the screen if it was fully artivulated? I’ve never seen an articulated screen that covered the camera to the edge.
The design certainly seems a bit confused. The grip part is very dslr in appearance, yet the hump is from the retro OM school of design. Agree with others that it looks glued on, but hopefully that’s just pre-production mistakes. I’m sure it will be a brilliant camera, but I don’t love the design like the EM5. Sure, the priority is a great camera, but part of the Olympus charm is the looks. Currently this looks like a slightly odd mixture of retro and Canikon dslr.
Well the OM was an SLR, so having a DSLR style grip is hardly out of place with the faux prism hump.
The point is that most SLRs had a much less pronounced handgrip than DSLRs. In particular MF SLRs, which the OM series was, had no big handgrips, with the probably only exception of the Canon T90.
I think the OM-D features are there & the grip has that ‘add on look’ on purpose. I like it as it looks like a very capable camera now with all the buttons looking nicely accessible & easy to find by feel too.
Agreed. I don’t prefer the look of the EM-5 or this one either. Only I don’t care. I love taking pictures with my EM-5. This new camera appears like it will be truly and awesome machine.
ohh damn,.wtf is this,..it looks really rough than OM-D
Ugly and losse all the claims of m43 with the 43 lens what u need a big camera with small sensor and for the price is plenty ff option to buy or aps-c
I’m not the only one that will rather choose this one than FF/aps-c.
Why don’t you just use your FF gear to take pictures of you playing with yourself, instead of wasting everyone’s time here.
If I had a FF I wouldn’t be on this forum.
I’d rather sell my FF gear than my m43 bodies and lenses. But please don’t make me 🙂
And that was comment #500! 43rumors.com history is being written as we type!
While my first impression nearly was like those of others who complain about a Frankencam with glued-on grip, after watching the clip I like what I see. This may well be a really good and ergonomic combination of the E-M5 with major design elements of the venerable E-1. Looks like the body lost some of the sharp edges of the E-M5, too, which I never liked too much.
If the camera will perform as it is supposed to, it will be just what I need. Will wait until the price drops significantly though, if it comes out around $1500 or above.
Some initial thoughts:
1) What a leak, I’ve never seen a product shown in so much detail so long before the announcement. As for the video being taken down, I’ve saved it, so if someone needs it, I can upload it.
2) What an ugly camera. The grip looks glued, while its 00s DSLR style is completely inconsistent with the 70s-styled pyramid hump.
3) The camera doesn’t look big, which is excellent.
4) I still can’t believe they didn’t put the flash in it. All Olympus 4/3 bodies had flashes.
5) Horizontal grip is a good move, hopefully it’s not too expensive.
6) What’s that button in the middle of the mode dial?
7) Why E-M1 after E-M5? They should have started a different line or called it E-M6.
8) Scene modes and Art filters on the mode dial of a “pro” camera???
9) Freezeproof down to -10 Celsius :)? I’ve shot for several hours on around -10 with my E-PL1 a year ago and it still works flawlessly.
10) Why so much emphasis on WiFi and no AF speed test?
11) What is that switch to the left of the hump for?
12) Excellent news for the system, we finally have OBS!
43 is a wannabe pro system real pros use ff or medium format cameras
Real pros use tools that do the job for them, doesn’t matter if it’s medium format, ff , m43 or any other thing. There are plenty of examples already, that m43 can be used in quite many fields already.
unless of course the OP is a try hard wanker, in which case they will need a hasselblad mf camera to massage their ego.
‘Real pros’ use the right tool for the job & if that job means a lighter kit is worthwhile, the ‘real pro’ has enough intelligence to know what would do the job for them. A number are using the E-M5 now & I’m sure more will like the ability this E-M1 will offer. Only ‘wannabe pros’ would choose a big kit just because it is big.
I’m one of the few pros here, who actually has a business, and I use 4/3.
Although I did buy a Nikon and have been using that a lot more lately because it just trumps the old 4/3 stuff in performance and IQ. Problem is that my job involves hiking and climbing, and size, weight, and ruggedness matters. Looking forwards to coming back to 4/3, and something that fits my professional needs.
And real a$$holes have nothing better to do than make troll posts in places they don’t belong. My guess is you still live in you mom’s basement and shoot with an iphone.
I have FF and M43 cameras and your comment is nonsense.
I think it looks awesome. Like a professional tool. Olympus does the same thing as Canon with the naming. 1D is more pro than 5D. So it makes sense to name this one E-M1. The future replacement will be called E-M1 mark II.
Ahh maybe i need drop E-P5, and hope an E-P1 MarkII come also. 😉
Rock-n-roll. Long live my trusty old E-P1 überpro!
Well, they sold more than 27,000 Pontiac Azteks, so there is always somebody that like these fugly things.
Yup. And nobody (as in “no one”) consulted you. So for some at least, you’re not that important. Your posts here are pointless. I always like a good troll, but looks is just a matter of taste: people won’t get too excited about it. Some tips: try bashing the really tiny sensor, or play down the pro-suitability. If that fails, say it’s way too big for an m43 camera.
“7) Why E-M1 after E-M5? They should have started a different line or called it E-M6.”
If you were up on your Olympus History, the original OM1 was called for a short time, the M-1. That is until Leica stepped up and stated they thought that the Olympus M-1 branding was confusing in regards to their own “M” cameras …
http://camekiti.up.seesaa.net/image/2005_10050008.jpg
I know about how M1 became OM-1, but after it came OM-2, 3 and 4. There was no OM-0 :D. The “5” in E-M5 represented a kind of continuation of the OM line, so where does E-M1 fit in? I agree with Mark that they did a Canon with the naming, but it doesn’t mean it’s logical :). And it’s surely a precedent in Olympus naming schemes. Even E-6 would be better.
I may be wrong, but I don’t think the “5” in E-M5 was meant to follow the “4” in OM-4.
The last 43 pro camera was the E-5… so I suspect that E-M5 was named as the M43 pro equivalent of the E-5. They just added the “M” for Micro.
It just so happened that the E-M5 was a massive success (which Olympus did not predict) and now they are capitalising on that success by releasing an “even more professional” camera.
But the best is E-50. 😛
Btw, will you change your nick now :)?
6) The button is to lock the dial, to prevent unwanted changes in the settings;
11) It’s the on/off switch
I don’t think (11) is a dial, but just the power switch like the E520 & E410 has (under the mode dial) & the top just houses the two buttons for Drive Mode & AF/Auto Exp area which is the same on the E5.
Sorry, the above reply was meant for Zelton.
6) lock button to rotate. when you want to rotate the dial, the button must be pushed down.
11) I have the same question. the lever should be power switch. but I totally don’t know what that big dial itself.
extra) that the two buttons? in front of the body (right hand side). or one button and one LED for AF?
one button is for “preview” (aperture)?
10) I agree with you
12) sorry, what stands for “OBS”?
not vari-angle screen, but tile-screen (for that, can E-M1 replace E-5?)
it seems to have only two Fn button. why more? such like 5 or so. there is plenty of space aroung command keys.
I suspect it’s a prototype model.
OBS or one beautiful system is a term used to describe the unification of 4/3 and m4/3 once a m4/3 camera that can use 4/3 lenses (with proper AF) appears.
The switch next to AEL/AFL button gives every FN button two functions. Knowing Olympus, I believe all other buttons are customizable as well.
Lack of fully articulated screen is a minus for me too.
6) -> It is a mode dial lock, so it won’t turn be accident.
10) -> Because this was for engadget and the smartphone/tablet people and it actually even was not meant to be published. 😉
11) -> It is a combination of AF, drive mode and power lever thingy, but I am wondering about that as well. XD
“smartphone/tablet people” – LOL! That’s a good one, I’ll write that down :).
Please, I’d like to see the video. Upload it. Thanks.
Please, could you upload the saved video to Dropbox or something? Thank you.
Miroslav,
E-mail me a link @ microfourthirdsATicloudDOTcom. 🙂 I want to see the video.
Admin beat me to it :).
Truly ugly. Why Olympus? Why?
+1
That’s got to be the ugliest camera I’ve ever seen.
The EM-5 was retro but very good looking, but this is just ugly from every angle I look at it.
1500€ for this abortion?!?
Ok, apart from that it appears to have everything I want in a camera. M4/3 with PDAF, superb EVF, focus peaking, IBIS, a decent grip, lots of buttons and loads of customization possible… Damn I want one 😛
But it’s gonna be hard to swallow paying 1500€ for something so ugly 😛
Unless someone at Olympus PR wants to get fired, I wouldn’t call this a leak. It’s more a sneak-peek product showcase.
No, it’s just a mistake by Engadget, who posted the video without safeguarding its URL — you can be sure that Olympus’s PR people will be screaming at Engadget as soon as they find out about it (it’s Sunday here in the U.S., and likely nobody is tuned in to it yet).
The video was shot in the offices of Mullen, Olympus’s PR agency in New York, overlooking Herald Square. I have aimed secret cameras out that same window several times.
As a hipster I can tell you that this will not do. I spit out my Starbucks coffee when I saw this. It’s ugly, plain and simple. The EM5 is a beautiful camera and I will be super disappointed if we don’t get a direct EM5 replacement. Olympus made the Pen series and the EM5 beautiful for a reason.
If this camera is for “pros” who don’t care about style they should have simply made this pro level camera a DSLR design.I think that would have been more acceptable.
We still need to find out how good the PDAF is on this camera. How many PDAF points do you get? Are all or any of these points capable of tracking?
I am praying there will be a EM5 replacement (EM6) that is the same size as the current EM5 (GH1 => GH2) with PDAF sensor, and can fit the HLD6.
That is my prayer. If not, I might have to pass on the EM1 if that is the final product. I mean geez, the EM5 and EP5 are some of the most attractive cameras I have seen, how did they end up with this design. Its like half round DSLR on one side and half rigid square retro on the other.
Hope the rumors hold true that this will not replace the EM5, and that a EM5 replacement is coming, hopefully in sept.
As a hipster the fact this camera is so fugly will allow you to save the money you would have paid for this towards a Hasselblad Lunar, to show the world truly how unique and special you are.
WTF is a hipster? 😐
The grip is ugly, but who cares! Maybe it is ergonomically necessary. And if the technique inside the camera is ok and my FT lenses work fine, the next model will be more bellyful. Olympus knows how to design.
I mean of course “more beautiful”
I’m sure the production models will have a nicer finish. The main problem with the appearance for me is the way the hot shoe stands up on the evf pyramid. With the pyramid and then the hot shoe it looks like things are piled up on top of the camera. Also the dials seem very prominent. Altogether that makes the top of the camera look pretty gnarly.
The prominent buttons and dials also mean you can find them with your fingertips without having to look for them with your eyes. By the way, I wonder if the buttons are backlit like they are on the E-620. Then again, with prominent buttons, backlit button are not necessary.
I actually would have liked it if they had placed the hot shoe on the far left side of the body (à la Nikon F2, which used an adaptor). Then the hump would be a little lower.
The OM line will rule the widest realms of photography again, but not without a hump-with-a-hotshoe-on-top. Just be grateful the hotshoe can’t fall off as it did in the 70ies, ha! 🙂
Good point.. for all we know, a lot of parts on this specimen were 3D-printed or hand molded. I have never known a production Oly SLR to look so miss-matched as far as color, texture.
OMG I LIKE IT !
if you are right, it is mean the end of olympus…for me.
So sorry. We’ll be here for you should you change your mind.
one of the front buttons looks “recessed”. Could it be little jog dial?
I scrubbed some stills off the video. The fuglyness factor is largely the video quality, it’s not that bad looking, unless you are some kind of concerned, colour-coordinated consumer. Suddenly the forum is populated by J-Pop camera girls? And the amount of surprise that this new model has visual feature of both the OM-D and e-X styled 4:3 bodies, how is that a surprise? Of course the grip style is going to support the larger lens system, so that it looks like the older e-XXX bodies isn’t a surprise at all.
Notice that the battery pack swings the centre of balance even lower. Again, to accommodate the larger glass of 4:3. It’s not like the PENs and OM-D M5 have suddenly disappeared … this isn’t a model for everyone, but those it’s made for should be happy. After all most serious photographers couldn’t give a shite how it looks, it’s how it functions.
You’re just now figuring out that a significant number of visitors to this site care more about how a camera looks than how it works? Have you not read any of the comments about the GX-7?
sad thing is I have read the general opinions on the forum. Many are far from the subject of photography. Just a lot of cynical emotion …
Have to agree, not the prettiest camera around, but I’m guessing the ergonomics are much improved over the e-m5. I love my e-m5, but it’s not the easiest to use, and buttons too small – I suppose that’s what comes from making a camera so small. So I’m ready to place my order, and tomorrow I’m putting my e-5’s on the bay 🙂 Finally get to take advantage of my pro glass!
I personally thinks the EM5 ergo were kinda wrong too…. until i added the grip and everything makes sense. It feels like they’ve design the camera with grip then later removed it to keep the package small and sexy. The hard to reach dials and AEL become natural with the HLD-6 landscape grip. My only gripe is they should’ve included the 4-way dial much like how nikon did their’s too.
An evolutionary step from EM-5. Now, they managed to make it uglier.
Looks like a tilt and swivel viewfinder this time unless I’m misreading the bumps on the side. And as a user of both the nice big FT glass and the smaller MFT “travel” stuff, this looks really good. I love the grip. It’s a pro camera in a smaller package. That combo works in my work. If it doesn’t for you, don’t buy it. I don’t think it looks anymore ugly or stylish than any other camera. It’s sad to read some of these early comments. Seriously? Did you really call yourself a hipster? Wow. I’m not sure that’s considered a good thing anymore. That came and went buddy.
The bump on the right side of the finder has the indicator mark for the mode dial on its top. The left side doesn’t have a bump. I believe you see the on/off lever. A swivel finder would be difficult to weatherseal,a nd it would proably be structurally too weak to allow mounting a medium or large flash unit on its hotshoe.
No, I’m talking about where the screen meets the far left edge (as seen from the back). It looks identical to the prior Oly cameras with a tilt and swivel. But E-M5 people can comment on whether it looks the same as that.
Also, did anyone notice any new lenses on that table?
So what we have in the E-M1 is a nice crossover. If you want smaller, it’s the E-M5. If you want something that balances with the superb big glass that they already make, it’s the E-M1. If you want the best of both worlds as a travel or portable camera, it’s the E-M1.
Well, you said ” tilt and swivel viewfinder,” so I didn’t think you meant the display.
I can’t tell if the display is fully articulated.
Only tilt so E-M5, but maybe screen is lite large, but not much.
I think I have seen a tilt screen that also twists, but I doubt this would do that. Maybe that was just a patent from Sony, but I can’t remember.
Sorry. Too excited for my legacy f2 zooms right now. I did mean “display.” But after looking at it again and again, I’m not sure I see the mount that it would need to rotate out. There is a hint of it but its probably wishful thinking.
Any self-proclaimed hipster commenting on the looks of a pre-production camera is either taking irony to new heights or completely out of his mind.
Not the prettiest Camera I’ve ever seen.
Looked really ugly on the photos, but when i saw the video it started growing on me real quick. The grip is strange, but at least it looks really cool from the top. E-M1 seems lika a serious workhorse, do want.
Now please please please Olympus, let there be a decent video codec with 24 and 25p. Keep fingers crossed
My thoughts exactly. When I first saw the photos, initially I thought yuck! But this thing just looked better as the the video went on especially the side and back with the grip.
Workhorse, by video ???
Add external mic jack on top of that, and I’m totally sold!
I watched the video again. The grip material is definitely a roughly cast piece for a prototype or early demo model. I can see uneven texture and even many pin-prick holes in the rubber, which means not even pressure casting was used. The production grip material will be far superior in terms of quality, fit and finish, and much better looking.
By the way, so far nobody has asked the E-M1 will be available in SILVER! 😛
White pleace. LOL
White is the color of death! 🙂
Someone else has also mentioned the difference of the working model on the tripod with the front dial to the handheld mock up. The grip might be a mock up too (on the tripod).
I’ve rechecked the video thinking there was a difference in the control dials but realised I was wrong as they all appear to have sloping knurled edges.
No in-build flash. 🙁
Oly, lets make WiFi remote control for external flashes.
Looks more professional but ugly.
GX7 has better shape and flash.
That’s a little annoying. But with the 600 working as a commander, I now have a camera that is more adaptable to FT glass AND using the 50R’s in a pro configuration. Nobody seemed to raise much of a stink when the 5DmkII shipped without an internal.
Interesting is that it is THE old 3 m43 to 43 adapter meaning the Pdaf is in camera completely hehehe and not transportable to another one…
Ok looking forward to get one but pretty sure the next omdem5 will have the same tech…. For a little less… So going to wait… Next holiday will be 2014 anyhow
Having just woke up and saw this, with a 144 comments and neary reading a one, I would say the positive is they seemed to have moved the strap lug up a bit, but the grip looks like the one Canon put on the 350 Rebel many years ago and I never liked it. They should have just moved the damn strap lug and made it a hair wider then offered a add on grip. Now, they just ruined it.
I hope the video codec/ quality has been improved !
Just a small point but I wonder why the rubber section of the grip is not
flush (aligned) with the camera body ?
Seems to be a few mm of a difference, giving the appearance (like many commented)
that it has been glued on. I like the fact that the metal part with the extra buttons is raised.
Would like to see a silver and black version too.
Maybe it is ugly, but it looks like it would get the job done.
Now I’m bummed. If I hadn’t booked a trip to Scotland this year, I could have bought this camera when it came out. I’m liking what I see here. It’s as if they listened to my want list on an OMD-Pro (except for more buttons but that 2x switch makes more?) Tilt screen? They didn’t show the screen tilt…
Anyway if you don’t like the grip, get an EM5, E-P5 or wait for the next OM-D which will be a lower trim level
M43 is dead
You’re just a ‘dill’. 😉
Someone asked about the LEFT dial. It’s the ON/OFF and there are two other buttons on top. One looks like it says AF and maybe MF? The other looks like crop or display icons
Actually the other button on the On/Off seems to say HDR then two other icons, one looks like multi-frame, so those half-circle buttons are rockers I suspect …
for me it looks like one is the Wi-Fi buttom.
Rubber doesn’t look as bad in this screen grab … http://imageshack.us/a/img818/821/xazc.jpg
That’s still a mock up one as the working model on the tripod has a different front dial, so the production bodies will be nicely finished.
I’ve realised my comment above was incorrect as all dials appear to be the same when viewing clear frames of the video.
Sounds like a joke…. a bad joke…. (hugly)
If the new Oly camera is bigger n even more expensive (when the price is compared to camera w/ larger sensor size), why not get D3200 or D7100 instead?
The GX7 is more sensible (even though 1000 usd is also expensive for camera with m4/3 sensor)
If you don’t know, you should just buy the APS-C camera (ignorance is bliss). Personally, I wonder what will be the fate of my APS-C body when I get the E-M1. Somewhere during the next 12 months I will probably end up with:
1) E-M1
2) D600
3) E-PM2
Note the total lack of any APS-C camera, Fuji included. I cannot imagine needing anything else ever (besides film cameras :-))
The Focus lamp is next to the OM-D text and on the other side you have a flash synch cap by the looks of things. The side buttons next to the lens are showing a bit more as well.
True!
Looks like this description a few weeks back was almost spot on: http://www.43rumors.com/ft4-possible-e-m5-description/
The only thing I can’t see is AF illuminator and I am not sure what the flash port is supposed to be. Even the lens release button being rectangular is true!
What I find odd is that engadget got this video so early. This is a pre-prdoduction camera, and I’ve never before seen a preview that didn’t at least have the hardware finalized.
AF lamp is by the O (looks almost like another O in fact).
The flash port is a standard coaxial PC connector. Hopefully it is threaded, but there’s no way to tell with the cover on.
The cap & flash coaxial connectors on the E3, E30 & E5 are threaded & I see no reason why this wouldn’t be too.
Function > Form.
Finally, now i can easily move on from both FT&MFT body and only carried this beauty
to be honest, i like this grip style than panasonic…it looks more proper but i can imagine giving same comfort when we grip the E3/5
And you will take it with you in your Pontiac Aztek. Or was it a Fiat Multipla? 😀
Oops, you goofed, bad example:
“The exterior and interior design of the Multipla was displayed at the Museum of Modern Art (MOMA) in New York during its “Different Roads – Automobiles for the Next Century” exhibition in 1999.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Multipla#Design
Of course, your refined taste is superior, hahaha! 🙂
hmmmmmmmm
compared to my cute little silver E-M5 this one really is … errr …. hrrrrm …. a Frankengremlincam 😀 ….. but if it gets the job done regarding my FT glass and has better ergonomics, it is going to sit in my camera bag right next to the E-M5 as soon as possible. E-M1 as my primary workhorse, E-M5 as small alternative, travel and backup cam.
The video is interesting, love the Wifi and app, great for studio shots. IBIS for video is also amazing, hope they will offer more professional codecs and improved C-AF for both mFT/FT for stills, sadly he doesn’t talk about C-AF at all.
Why does everybody say its ugly? I love it
I’ll buy it if it has 25 fps or 50p video. The Engadget piece shows 60p, so not hopeful.
+1000
Front looks a little strange, to me the side and back looks great.
Camera looks much better and complete with the 43 glass instead of the comparatively tiny 17 f1.8 lens.
Every 43 camera I’ve owned has had a flash from the e450 to the e5 and it has come in handy so the absence of flash is annoying.
Looks like an e520 on steroids, tanked up and ready to go. I’m almost certain I’ll be buying this and in about a years time when that em7 comes out, it’ll replace my ep3.
That evf from the back looks awesome, can’t wait to hold one of these things with my 43 glass and take advantage of that 5 axis IS.
Good grip! Prayers and pleas answered. Yes! Yes! Yes! A grip may appear something insignificant but for cameras it is a very good reason for a purchase, provided the rest is OK. Seems to be OK.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
I agree that the camera at first glance looks ugly. The grip does look like it’s glued, I think the reason it’s like that is because of the WiFi.
But the Olympus guy did say is weather proof and now, freeze proof which I think it’s fantastic.
I have no use for a pop up flash, use a real flash for crying out loud. Plus, if you happen to put a real flash like say the FL-600, than that flash will work as your commander for other RC flashes you may have and you will be able to shoot TTL (Not my thing since I’m old schooled)
I am excited for this new camera, because I own a couple of 4/3 glass as well as m4/3 and that is to me, the best of two worlds.
Plus I can see it has a flash sync, perfect for my off camera flash, like a real pro camera should ALWAYS have.
Good shooting!
Cant believe people STILL have stuff to complain about!
Pdaf baby! No need to resurrect my dead e-510. Thia looks awfully similar! Nasty nasty nasty! I wonder how good the c-af is.. But this is friggin awesome!!!
And how cool was that IS demo!!! Put those things on the showroom and olys will sell like hot cakes!
Because it is ugly & has no build in Flash.
Now I have to wait for the replacement of the om-d e-5 or buy the e-p5.
or wait for the nex-7 with IBIS…. (probably the best choice…)
You just dont get it. And I’m not saying thats a bad thing. You are probably better off with the other cameras you’ve mentioned. But make no mistake.. This camera is what people have been asking for a long time now and more. This will sell.
I’ve never commented on the looks of a camera before but I do have to say that is one ugly camera.
video seems to be down now
Wow! What a monstrosity!! This camera looks HORRIBLE! And price wise, I only see a small handful buying this!
The average EM-5 user will NOT upgrade to this, not even in the long run. No way, no how, not happening.
What the heck was Olympus thinking?? This looks like a disgusting mixture of different camera bodies, a Frankenstein Monster of cameras! Get the Torches and Pitchforks out!!
And the fake film crank is pathetic. I don’t even care what it does. That is just TOO CHEESY, Olympus designers should be ashamed of themselves.
I seriously see this camera not selling at all! It’s going to go down as one of the worse MFT cameras ever. It’s too bad it’s not April, because this could’ve made a nice April-Fools joke!
The Olyfanboys will defend this camera to no end, yet won’t buy it. They’ll say they’ll buy it, but when this monster drops, I’d wager their cash will stay in their wallets. -And there’s no official price yet!!
WOW.
Mr ALL CAPS
+1
+10
I hadn’t really thought of the “faux” rewind crank, but you’re right, that is pretty cheesy.
Please help, I just can’t see it (I’ve seen faux cranks before, this isn’t one). You refer to the thumb rest? Hope not.
Agreed. This is an abomination. The curves and strait lines are jarring.
The worst industrial design since Pierre Terblanche was at Ducati.
David Lynch could not have conceived of a more disturbing camera. I feel haunted…mine eyes!
If we talk by car, mean we twist by Pacer and 2CV true. HEHE
The Deux Chevaux is cute and cuddly compared to this thing!
The 2CV is however not weathersealed. 😛
There, there. Don’t get yourself too upset. I’m sure it will sell OK. I doubt it will rush out the door as quick as the E-M5 but it will still be appreciated by many.
all-caps, you’re wrong: I’ll buy it. You see, since my religion allows both *both* Pany and Oly, I’m no sad tosser but a happy camper instead.
And if the final camera actually looks different, you’ll still be saying how it ugly it is, instead of admitting you were foaming at the mouth prematurely.
Let’s see: 1 or 2 points for me, probably 0 pour toi. I’ll be waiting. Ciao!
olympus, pls forget the hump! who really need this?…
Of a old film camera.
For Olympus’s sake, I hope this is just a early proto…
Or use the hump for something useful like… a flash!
You would rather have a flash than a huge viewfinder……………..O…K…..
Backs away slowly.
Nice response. 😉
lol
Wow! Looks super promising. Probably a mock-up? Someone please make a summary of what we are seeing here : )
This is likely what Olympus needs to win dudes over from the APSC format.
Great news, great news!
Say this also after E-M5 too. 😀
I am saying: it is not real camera.
Kind of Photoshop.
No way, it is hoax.
We’ll see, in one month,I am right 😉
There is a video with an Oly representative showing off the camera. No fake has ever been so elaborate …
It is ugly. Fit and finish will almost certainly be better on production cameras, but that won’t change the fact that it’s ugly. But if it works well I don’t really care.
It’s hard to tell from this, but it seems quite a bit bigger than the EM-5, and not just because of the grip. I wonder how all the Oly lovers who gripe that the GH2 and GH3 are “TOO BIG for m43”, and “The EM-5 is better because I can take the grip off when I want a small cam” will rationalize a larger Oly. 🙂
We’ll all need to wait to actually handle one to see how the ergos work. It looks, to me, to clearly be a lot better than the EM-5, but my first impression is that the controls aren’t laid out nearly as well as on the GH3. I’ll reserve judgement until I can actually handle one, of course.
And two question that I’m pretty sure I can guess the answer to: Has Oly finally rationalized their ridiculously complicated menu system, and provided the ability to customize the SCP? (My guess is No to both.)
My only complaint is that the grip looks removable (i.e. the lines of the Grip und the body don’t match well), but it is fixed.
Olympus: Either make a fixed, nicely integrated grip or a removable one (which than is allowed to look a bit odd). Do not combine both…
This is clearly a pre-production, hand-built body. I would expect the production version to clean up those kinds of details.
if this is real , it will be a low point …its profoundly ugly , a really cheap looking build , and the finish looks like b grade plastic extrusion everything about this , from the wierd trapizoidal surround for the lock pin release to the klunky oddly shaped grip screams mistake …… i think its fake..i pray its a fake ..but ive been wrong before
Oh, please. Haven’t enough people pointed out that this is obviously a pre-prodution prototype, and not what the final product will look like?
dear admin: video spec or no news.
Thanks.
ps. If it is still old bitrate with 30/60 fps – Olympus you are simply blind and stupid.
pps. yes my bag is full of Olympus bodies and glass.
For Olympus it certainly is an ugly camera. That protruding grip, really?! They couldn’t have done better? I guess they fired the guy who so very nicely copied the old analog OM line into the digital age with the original OM-D. Shame on Olympus for calling this an “OM”. It looks just like every other Nikon/Canon/Panasonic/Sigma/Ricoh made since 1983.
Looks like the video has now been removed. Link no longer works.
The cat is out of the bag!
And mouse dancing cancan on table. 😉
The mice dance once the cat has left the house!
I uploaded the vid to my FB:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201049778659528
No, it looks like a real camera, and consistent with all the infos circulating.
Clearly is a pre-production model, especially in the quality of the rubber around the camera – if you look the pics of the preproduction GH3, it’s the same.
Unfortunately, it looks like a very advanced prototype – probably will have a better finish, but will not be much more different than this. The grip is probably excellent ergonomic-wise, but looks like an alien in the camera.
It’s function beyond form, and I think that they are right. But the retro look was not harmonious with the grip; if the intention was to build a pro m4/3, with a DSLR grip, maybe a better route was to forget the OM styling and make something more in the ways of the old E line.
The camera looks superb in terms of features, maybe could be the best m4/3 to date. But the styling could be a shot in the arm (and yes, a lot of people, even pros, like stylish cameras).
This is just a mockup that works. To prevent theft of images of the final model, all prototypes are modified. In Italy we do this for cars, the prototypes that you see on the streets are always ugly, but the production model will be nice.
Looks great besides grip misalignment. Wish grip was an add on. Hopefully video frame rates and codec are improved.
Please someone post the video!
Has anyone saved video as it is no longer available? Care to share on youtube or vimeo? Thanks
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201049778659528
It is a good thing I watched the video twice before reading the commnts because it looks like it was taken down.
Anyhow, it looks like it is more function determining design form instead of looks determing the design. I do think it looks kind of ugly, but I will most likley pre-order one since it looks like it will do a few things better than my E-M5. Plus my E-M5 is really showing its 1 year and 2 months of rough useage from me.
I do like the built-in grip. I do like the additional space between buttons but thought there should be at least one more Fn button. Then again maybe the big round button dial thing on the left will do. I jus thave to wait to see the real announcement. It is interesting just like the OLympus Rep I talk to a month ago the term “dual” AF system is used. So mybe the CDAF and PDAF is not really intergrated to here one sytem helps the other system atthe same time. It just might be that when a lens made for CDAF is used the CDAF system is used and when a PDAF lens is used the on-sensor PDAF system is used.
Anyhow, inspite of the camera being on the ugly side I do believe it will be one that I will grow to love.
Oh, it looks not so beautiful, I will buy this one but I need to reconsider E-P5~
Seriously? I understand it might work well and be what you want but do you really think it looks good? I mean this thing is an aesthetic disaster with a fake pentaprism and rewind crank and curved moulded grip. Bizarre. A face only a mother could love.
Seriously, I said it’s look NOT SO BEAUTIFUL and I will reconsider E-P5, however I will buy it coz I have no chioice.
Sorry my bad.
I think I misread your comment as my eyes were still recovering from the shock of this camera.
Makes me want it even more. Ah, the human brain.
Oh my, it’s not a pretty one 😀
Lot’s of OM heritage still. That handgrip looks out of place. Must be ergonomic if it’s that ugly, right?
I think what makes it ugly is that old OM heritage. Not that that is bad by itself, but it doesn’t blend with the more modern forms of the grip and right hand side of the body. It looks like the right hand was designed by one person, the top plate by a second, and some poor soul got stuck with trying to make the left side a blend of the two.
Either stay retro, or go modern, but trying to mix the two just doesn’t work. There were plenty of “traditional” film SLRs with grips that Oly could have mimicked if they wanted to go retro.
Can you explain all that in terms of the OM-4 + grip combination and still make it sound intelligent? TIA!
>Oh my, it’s not a pretty one
I care how it handles, not how it looks. For some strange reason, when using a camera my eyes are looking trough the viewfinder, not at the camera.
If I can grip it and control it well, I don’t give a darn about looking at it.
As a long-time 4/3 hold out, this camera looks like I will finally buy into m4/3. But wait… Camera + Grip + adapter is going to set me back $2,000… Yikes.
Now I’m in FF territory. May as well go with the better sensors/focusing/accessories.
Oly.. give me a reason to stick around? More on the EFV? More on the screen? What does this camera have other than a grip and PDAF glued onto a EM5?
yeah… 5-axis looks great on your demo, but in the real world camera shake AND subject movement (which IBIS doesn’t handle) has been tackled already with low-light performance in SENSOR, not glued to it.
What else ya got, because it ain’t going to be price.
Well here’s a couple. Tough as nails but still affordable for that. Adaptability to almost any lens you can find. On screen feedback that is impossible in the mirrorless models. Incredible stabilization.
When the E-5 shipped and they talked about the death of FT, I started shopping. And as much as I wanted to get excited about Canon, Nikon, and the ground breaking work that Sony was doing, I kept bumping into obstacles. Olympus has a smaller sensor and that has some disadvantages. And no one takes the brand seriously. But dang, I kept finding features that came with Oly that were going to cost me too much in jumping to the others. Oly is a underdog and they make up for that by throwing a hell of a lot of features in their cameras. Couple that with some lenses ever made and I decided to stay put. Big glass is relatively affordable now. People got spooked and are dumping it. It won’t be once this camera ships. They’ve just reinvigorated their lens line up.
The FF cameras you describe are OVF with PDAF. S-AF will on par, but not better. The quality of the C-AF with the E-M1 is the big question, of course. Could be on par too.
These FF bodies are heavy and twice as big as the E-M1. The fast lenses you need to compensate for the lack of IBIS and EVF are two to four times as big and as heavy. Overall, you can expect a doubling in size and weight and at least 50% higher cost. Feel free to do your own math, of course. Anybody switching from FF to Fuji/m43 has their own reasons, but size and weight are main factors.
I shoot some FF but its lack of portability is severely limiting. I like the DR, the very shallow DoF, the old-skool OVF and the heft of the body in my hands, though.
For video, I think m43 has the best price/performance ratio, besides portability benefits.
Dang Olympus. They should have made it look like the Pentax K-01. Now there is a pretty camera with a ground breaking design that they were unloading for a couple hundred a few weeks back.
Taste is a funny thing. Doesn’t look ugly to me but I use bigger glass. I suppose it would look a little big and weird with my smallest MFT. That optional bottom grip will never leave the body. I thought the original OMD was ugly but it grew on me. Maybe this will too. Maybe not. But I like what we see in the functionality of this camera for real work. I’ll be getting one.
EM-1 seems interesting. I missed the video from Engadet. Can somebody upload it please and receive good karma?
+1 someone please share video.
Guys, another link to the video was posted twice, not very far above your posts…
After looking to the video, I have to say that I like the ergonomics and the speed of Af on the 43 14-35 f2 lens through wifi. Impress by the IBIS video demos too. Hope they up the bit rate to a least GX7 level. Still hate the looks on the grip. Hope the grip on the production model will have more curves and a bit more organic merge to the body.
Looks like a serious machine and I love that!
I do not think I have ever seen so many comments on a single post on this website! This is amazing!!!
Unfortunately it doesnt say anything about the interest about this model. I have the impression that halve of the comments are negative. Fact is it generated alot replies, which suits the upcoming MFT topmodel perfectly. Personally, I have decided I will be sure to get this camera in the future, as soon as I am financialy able to buy it. My current OMD will then be used as everyday-with-me & video B-camera.
Of course the HUGE number of posts says something about the interest in thi camera. DUH!
What a beautiful looking camera! This is irresistible.
Exactly like an old OM SLR, down to the cover for the external flash socket. Based on looks alone, I am sold.
Can someone upload video as engadget has removed it? Thanks.
After seeing the video from engadet, i find it more pleasing to fond of this camera,..its. A good sign.
The camera it seems has more rigid ,sturdier and better build like a tank , and he mention its freeze proof to minus -17 ,.and the battery grip looks more better ,.for profesional purpose,. Hope the price is not gonna be to expensive
…Not -17!! +17F = -10C. At least, that is what was said. More precisely, +17F = -8.3C
…actually, he is saying 14F, -10C
I wasn’t planning on upgrading from my E-M5, and this ugly thing isn’t about to convince me otherwise.
Who gives a damn about the looks its the performance that counts.I am seeing you guys with man-bags and moisturizer jeez!
Why would you need to “upgrade”? Is your E-M5 suddenly broken?
FINALLY, the OM is back in digital form! This is truly inspired not only by the E-M5 but the OM 3-4. And from the looks of it, a truly professional camera that just may be able to compete with other professional cameras for things like photojournalism, hard news and sports. Wow, way to go Olympus. Now, can you please sell the 12mm f/2.0 (non special edition for normal price) in black, please?!
I am still rubbing mine eyes in disbelief. Why oly? Why?
I genuinely feel a little sick looking at this abomination.
Always loved oly but this is all kinds of wrong. Why not just make it modern instead of keeping an angular prism with a rounded grip and a faux rewind crank? It looks like it was cut and shut from two different cameras.
If this is even real, they made a terrible mistake.
They should have based the design on the E-1, which was as good as it gets, and work around that.
I appreciate the reference to the OM-system with the E-M5, but the OM-system (slippery) was not useful for fast sports, whereas the E-1 is.
I have to believe that a company full of engineers could have found someone to design a proper, modern body.
It might be the case that the retro look is extremely important in some segments of the market. I’m not in that segment but that does not mean it was an irrational decision. Their designs might eg be targeted at the Japanese market or some other segment. I don’t like the look but I’d buy it in a heartbeat if I had the funds sitting around.
It looks nothing like the originals, maybe some common elements, but just about everything that was good about it aesthetically they destroyed in a futile attempt to modernize.
check out the OM-4 + Motordrive 2 grip.
I don’t understand how many posters here call the E-M5 beautiful. It is butt-ugly and I own one. Not because of its looks but in spite of. If they must be after a classic look, I’d much rather have pseudo-rangefinder looks than pseudo-SLR looks.
But looks is of course a secondary consideration. Even though I don’t have any 4/3 lenses, this sounds like a great release for previous 4/3 users planning to switch to µ4/3.
Never heard of Olympus OM-1, OM-3, or OM-4? search and you will understand why E-M5 design and looks were loved by so many. I don’t particularly like the range finder looks of GX-7, Fuji, or Sony NEX for opposite reason.
I think that the OMD EM-5 is a great looking and handling camera…especially with the top half of the battery grip attached!
It is a nice functional alternative to all the “modern” cameras.
This EM-1 looks like a solid functional camera in that same tradition.
Perhaps a whole new makeover would have been exciting too…but Olympus decided to continue with the same styling…
This is not a camera that I will buy…my OMD is just fine for my needs for the time being.
Yes, E-M5 is really nice. All I need are better m43 zoom lenses from Olympus 😉
This camera. Can’t cost more than 700 usd m43 is totally overpriced for shure will be better than any panasonic but everyone know panasonic is crap…..
Hear, hear – the expert lectures.
When did you mommy give you back internet access, FF?
This camera looks bizarre.
Actually the grip reminds me a bit of the E1.
E1 was the most comfortable/ergonomic camera I ever used.
http://pictures2.todocoleccion.net/tc/2009/07/11/12956680.jpg
If the EM1 is really as comfortable to hold as the E1, combined with the large viewfinder it will an incredible fun camera to use. Except I’d still prefer the viewfinder on the left, not in the middle.
But yeah it looks awkward lol…. what happened to their design team?
I’m with you Z I pulled out my E-1 with the grip and sure enough looks very close. THe body size of the M-1 looks very close to the E-1.
Their E-system design team apparently went to Panasonic to work on the GH3, which is comfortable, even though it’s a bit small.
Hear, hear!
I never liked the E-3/5 designs, the E-1 body is still one of the most comfortable DSLR to hold and operate, why did they mess with such a good design? I still keep one E-1 around as a collectors item.
But on the E-M1, I think it is an improvement over E-M5, grip or not. Bigger buttons, for one. Those two micro buttons on the back always bother me, e.g.
The fit and finish on the grip looks awful. That makes me think this is a fake.
Apparently you didn’t get to see the video. That is an early pre-production, possibly prototype and the video was never intended for public viewing. If you have never seen an early leak from other manufacturers, you would know that they all have “rough spots” and edges because they are not production line cameras, rather 1 off hand assembled for early trials and training.
That is a real functional camera. Final production runs will not have all the rough lines and seams. This is typical for an early pre-production, test and training unit, regardless of manufacturer.
Absolute nonsense. The fact that Engadget was videoing it and he did a demo of the stabilization suggests its the real thing. Engadget is a tech news site, they release news to the tech community.
I can pretty much guarantee this is what it will look like, its too close to production (in fact its probably being manufactured now) to make changes like that.
You are clueless. You realize that, don’t you?
Hey.. come here, smell your mum.
Why would it look much worst than the E-M5 with grip. Your knowledge about preproduction cameras (or anything) is lacking, btw.
Regardless: it looks like a fine tool and I will own at least one.
Man you wana look in a mirror.
People is judging its look from that video…
I understand because companies don’t like these kind of leaks before the official video/shoots.
Good scoop, admin.
I believe the screen hinges sideways? All cameras should be like that.
Doesn’t look articulated… Here are some other angle pictures of it.
http://digicame-info.com/2013/08/om-d-e-m1.html
Wick, thx for commenting, but i still find this looks like articulated, and that would make sense in several regards as well.
Not able to see a clear view of the left side to tell if it is fully articulated. From the looks of It I would guess it is up and down tilt, just like on the EM-5, but not fully articulated like the Panasonic GH3.
Agreed. Looks a lot like the OM-D screen design. Oly has never shown the slightest interest in articulated screens. Of course, they never showed any interest in ergonomic design, either, and it looks like they’re at least *trying* to get that right.
That’s what I think too. A similar protrusion on the upper left edge where one can turn it backwards like on the E-M5.
Ha ha ha ha ha…..
Someone tell him, I can’t be bothered.
LOL. That exact comment can be used more often here! 🙂
The E-5, and also many other 43 cameras had articulating screens. If I remember correctly, Oly was actually the first or one the first to incorporate an articulating screen. That they don’t have one for m43 is very strange. Having it in the E-M1 would actually be a stand-out feature, as many other pro cameras don’t have it …
Correct about the E5 and articulating screen, which is very good. Many posts here are not well informed about the 4/3 format features, and seem to think that the photographic world and Olympus only started when m4/3 came along. A combination of the best of both 4/3 and m4/3 can only be a good thing. Confusion about the so-called “rewind crank” is easily addressed by considering the E5 multi-function buttons in the same location. On this “new” model instead of being two separate buttons, they are now separated by a centre strip, which could be mistaken for a “rewind crank”. ALso, on the E5 some functions were accessed by depressing both these buttons – the centre strip will make them easier to find by feel without looking for them.
Also, the “grip” has the same form as the E5, which is brilliant. You can carry the E5 camera complete with big lens with only the 3rd – 5th fingers in hook mode around this grip, also compose and shoot easily. If this new body is smaller and lighter than the E5, all the better – just easier to carry and use with this grip.
Hmmm, well C7070, C8080, E-3, E-30 and E-5 have a fully articulated display and thise are all Olys.
Doesn’t look real to me.
The quality of the pictures are bad, and some part of the camera looks fake.
If it’s the real one, i don’t like it !!
I think that this is a preproduction model..ie…rough around the edges…I also think that it was leaked on purpose.
Unfortunatly it looks fake to me, just fake. Oly do not make ugly cameras like this one. it looks worse than a Turkish genuine fake gadget. I am sure the new camera will be a pleasent surprise as the OMD EM-5 was. 🙂
Wow and they went all out to fake a video too right?
It’s a good point. We’ll see.
I wonder if Oly moves the announcement forward. I can’t remember such a substantional leak so early in m43 history.
They were bumping up against the Apple announcements. My guess is that they had to move it up to not get lost in that. They wanted this video to come out on Monday or Tuesday. They’ll have cameras in stores on the other days in September.
The buzz on 43rumors.com was too much – they just had to leak something!
There’s a design error, the “Delete” button to the right bottom of the screen is not well placed. Anyone who is annyoned by the “LiveView” button of E-30 will find the same, it will be easily touched when you hang the camera on your neck or shoulder
For me is a pre-production model, maybe a leak to measure people reactions?
What is that film rewind button/wheeled doing? Seems like form (retro nostalgia) over function.
But take a closer look and you’ll find big buttons that are too small on other cameras. They’ve worked it into the retro design. But the functionality is now easier to find and hit without looking.
True, they are nice and big, but why do they need the big circular hump.
Also if you look closely that is where the on/off switch is. It looks like it would be difficult to toggle with the right hand. A very awkward position.
Have a look closely at the EM-1 in his hands and the EM-1 on the tripod. I’m going to go out on a limb and say the one in his hands in an engineering mule or mock-up and the one on the tripod is closer to what production models will be. The model on the tripod has a different dial around the shutter button, ribbing on the grip and a much more “finished” look…
Wow, good catch. I didn’t even notice that, but you are right, the dials around the shutter are two completely different styles. The sides of the one on the tripod are very square (straight up-and-down), while the one in his hand is angled.) Also, right on the grip ribbing.
The portrait’s grip has the angled edge of the wheel though. I wonder if that is just a mock up & the real wheel (like that ;)) will be like the camera (on the tripod).
I thought that at first until I looked closer at the video again & realised the control dials all have sloping (knurled) edges.
First: can someone pretty pretty please upload the video somewhere?
Some other points:
-Some of it looks pre-production, particularly around the seams.
-So all the people complaining about the E-M5’s ergonimics dissappeared? I actually liked the E-M5’s ergonomics and size, so I’m somewhat disappointed that the grip is fixed, but I believe it’s the best overall compromise for its target market.
-Even if it looks worse than the E-M5, it’s still miles above any modern Canon or Nikon SLR.
-For the love of all that’s good, the availability of this camera DOES NOT invalidate the availability of the E-M5! They are completely separate lines. The E-M5 is to the E-M1 what the 5D is to the 1D. If you want something in the E-M5 form factor with the usual generational upgrades, just *wait*!
The grip is essentially a requirement for shooting 43 lenses. Some of them are quite heavy.
First: can someone pretty pretty please upload the video somewhere?
Some other points:
-Some of it looks pre-production, particularly around the seams.
-So all the people complaining about the E-M5′s ergonimics dissappeared? I actually liked the E-M5′s ergonomics and size, so I’m somewhat disappointed that the grip is fixed, but I believe it’s the best overall compromise for its target market.
-Even if it looks worse than the E-M5, it’s still miles above any modern Canon or Nikon SLR.
-For the love of all that’s good, the availability of this camera DOES NOT invalidate the availability of the E-M5! They are completely separate lines. The E-M5 is to the E-M1 what the 5D is to the 1D. If you want something in the E-M5 form factor with the usual generational upgrades, just *wait*!
My notes:
1. The grip surely got my first attention. It really doesn’t look as good as EM-5. Well, considering all other points after number one, I will buy this camera but I will carry my E-M5 more often than this one. I will only bring this cam when I go specially for photo hunting. Won’t carry this one daily.
2. Surely glad that I can use my 12-60, 35-100 and little tuna 150mm FT lenses. Image quality will surely rock! Again, ONLY for special photo hunting purpose.
3. Now lets talk about buttons and dials. I like the on off switch location better than the E-M5. I think would be better if the power switch is on the right hand side though.
4. The buttons on the top left plate: AF mode (s-AF, C-AF, Tr-AF, M-AF. could be also to choose between CDAF and PDAF.), metering mode button (ESP, center weight, spot, spot hi, spot low), in-camera HDR mode button, burst mode button (single, low speed burst and high speed burst shots)
5. Then to the hump. I like that they use the PEN type of hot shoe & accessory port cover, not 2 pieces like E-M5 version. Would be easier to remove and to attach it again. No internal flash, well, its a pity but not really too at the same time. I could not recall when is the last time I used the small flash included with EM-5. The fast prime lenses, IBIS and exellent sensor made me never use the small flash. If I need flash, I always use the FL-600 or FL-50r.
6. The lock button on the PASM-Art dial would is a nice fine detail they put. A bit unusual they put i-auto and Art on the dial mode in a pro level camera, but hey, many of us love using Art filter mode.
7. The 2 dials location is nice ergonomically. Shutter button location is also nice.
8. curve button (fn 2 button) and record (tick) button, I have to try it to comment further. In the case of E-M5, I don’t really like the location of the curve button. I set it as magnifying button but sometimes I struggle a bit to find the button while keeping my eye at the EVF.
9. Lets go to the back side. EVF-LCD display switch I like it better at the back rather than on the side of the hump ala E-M5.
10. Nice large and high res EVF! Just hope the eyecup rubber sticks better because I lost it several times from my E-M5.
11. info, play, fn1, menu, erase and the direction pad buttons are well placed. much better than button locations at the back of E-M5.
12. LCD I think looks like it is a swivel LCD. It is yes and no for me. For difficult angles, surely swivel LCD would be great. In case for shooting from the hips for candid shots, tilting screen is more discreet.
13. To the front of the cam, I see 2 buttons on the right hand aide beside the lens. One is DOF preview for sure. Don’t know what the other one is. I’m thinking there would be 2 possibility. One is that is an extra fn button, or it could be IR sensor for IR shutter remote.
14. AF light assist still there. Nice.
15. Lens release button is bigger, I prefer smaller one like E-M5.
16. Sync port would be good for pros using flash, I never use it though.
17. I hope the big grip means bigger room for battery, meaning more powerful battery and therefor more shots per battery cycle. Crucial for pro level camera.
18. Memory card slot cover, I really like the lever release style from E-1 or E-3. From the size of the slot cover also, I think no dual memory slot card is available. One memory card slot only.
Hmmm anything else that I missed? I’d add some if something else come up to my mind.
While I don’t necessarily agree on all points, I think that is a pretty good overall assessment. Nicely done and well thought out.
tl;dr
As one of the few pro’s still shooting on Olympus, I will certainly buy this camera, just to control the 150f2 lens. That lens alone is enough reason to stick with Olympus.
I’ve been waiting for a camera to control that lens.
I really wanted to buy the em5, but inferior video codec lead me to a gh3 purchase instead. Hopefully, the em1 has better video.
I’m glad it doesn’t have an onboard flash. I never use them. I prefer to go off camera with my flash. And the looks? Who cares?!? I’m normally lurking in the shadows.
The looks don’t matter?
But what does that say about the designers who were paid to style this thing?
OK, I admit….looks do matter. I should rephrase and say that this camera is not so ugly that it will dissuade me from making the purchase. As a photographer, it’s all about the final aesthetic of the photograph…so, looks are something we factor in to the equation, and aesthetic is important to us.
I don’t think this camera is that ugly. I’m sure it will look better with a hand on the grip and a 150f2 lens attached.
A few observations:
1. The grip is ugly (a matter of taste), but looks highly ergonomic. Easy to grasp for a long time and quite resistant to slipping.
2. Control layout is a bit messy, but I like the buttons on the front (hopefully customizable). Usually this space is wasted.
3. I like the lock on the mode dial.
4. The camera looks well suited for gloved hands.
5. On/Off switch is oddly placed. Camera can’t be switched on with one hand.
6. The HDR option is coupled with the drive selector, so probably quick access to bracketing mode and nothing more.
7. The size of the “hump” is similar to E-M5 despite the larger viewfinder. Good news.
8. Does not require a special adapter to work with 4/3 lenses, or so it seems.
9. I really hope it comes in silver too. My silver lenses would look horrible on this all-black version.
10. Video still doesn’t seem important to Olympus. The design is clearly stills-oriented.
looks like it uses the normal 43 to m43 adaptor… might come with as part of the package?
There’s clearly an adapter with a red dot for that 43 lens.
P.S. That is one ugly camera. Still no flash?
Rather have that big-ass EVF (like the VF-4) than a stupid little flash. 🙂 (which also requires a huge flash capacitor inside the body everybody seems to forget.)
Agree. While a built-in flash is convenient, I find the results of built-in flash on every camera I have ever used to be less then desirable except maybe for family snapshots, as well as greatly underpowered. My old Oly flash with tilt, swivel, more power and the Stofen diffuser is vastly superior, more flexible, quicker and only takes a few seconds to pop on.
But the built-in flash is handy on occasion, when you get stuck somewhere and need a little fill, and to control remote flashes. Not a critical item, but I’d rather have it than not.
There’s clearly an adapter with a red dot for that 43 lens.
> That’s what is said – it’s a standard adapter. But you didn’t know that.
> P.S. That is one ugly camera. Still no flash?
I’ll give you 10 seconds to mention 5 true pro/high-end bodies and 10 seconds more to tell us which of them don’t have a built-in flash.
Then you get 60 seconds more to come up with any compact consumer camera that DOES NOT come with a built-in flash.
1 – I too, love the front buttons. I think it’s a great place to have configurable buttons that change certain settings while being pressed. I find Canon to implement them the best so far on their 1DX. Let’s hope Olympus’ version is just as clever.
2 – Contrary to you, I find the lock on the mode dial to be an ergonomic mistake. When placed on the right side of a camera, a lockable mode dial means that one has to loose one’s grip over the camera to use it. I own a Fuji X-pro 1, and I can assure you the lockable mode dial is just unusable in fast-paced situations.
IMHO, a mode dial placed on the right side of the camera should be sunk to prevent accidental changes (not lockable), and be explicitly placed either for thumb or index operation, but not both (the X100 shutter speed dial can be used by both fingers, which means it’s a compromise and not ideally placed for either one of them – contrary to the leica M, which explicitly places the dial for index operation). that means only one finger is necessary to use it.
3 – I’m also afraid the AF button might be a little too far from the thumb rest area – although I could be mistaken, the body might be small enough for it not to be an issue.
4 – If I’m not again mistaken, the top left controls are buttons for the drive mode and AF mode – another design issue, as placing such controls on the top left of a camera makes them unusable without loosing one’s grip over it. Nikon D800 / D4 users know this pretty well. In general terms I dislike controls on the top left of a camera, most of them are a pain to use quickly.
5 – Still no C modes on the mode dial, instead of the usual scene modes. I know, the PASM settings are likely to be configurable as C modes like on recent Olympus cameras, but what if I want to keep them alongside my custom modes ?
Olympus still seems to be unable to make a decent user interface, but then no camera brand excels at it anyway, some are just less worse than others.
Who cares what the camera looks like? It’s a freaking camera. It’s a tool. If its more ergonomic (I have no idea if it is), and it takes better pictures than a “pretty” camera, then good for Olympus.
Seriously, only a hipster dumbass would care what the damn camera looks like.
Do you think oly’s highly paid design team cares? They got paid to style it and did this. They had choices before it went into production. If design doesn’t matter why employ a design team? Why have a fake pentaprism on top and a fake rewind crank??
Pentaprisms are used to make viewfinders. The hi-res, state-of-the-art, best-of-breed etc. viewfinder in this camera is housed in exactly the same place as a traditional pentaprism. What’s your point again? And don’t start about the ergonomics as a last resort: it’s placed perfectly for most shooting situations.
Fake rewind cranks: every camera should have them. It’s a shame the E-M1 actually doesn’t.
Somehow I think you are troll. (Bit ugly at that.)
A car is a vehicle, who cares what it looks like. Clothes on you were meant for warming you, who cares what they look like. A wife’s for breeding, who cares what she looks like.
You must be fun at parties.
Yeah, I want to go to parties where the cool camera fashionistas go.
Interesting argument. Not really valid because we all know looks do matter and form and function can coexist.
I guess we can see who the photographers are and who the hipsters are. If you seriously care what your camera looks like, you’re not a photographer.
So real photographers who are visual artists don’t care about aesthetics…right…
Apart from the grip (which I doubt is final, because the alignment is off) I think the E-M1 looks better than the E-M5. So that means it looks quite nice – at least not ugly.
As an OM-4 owner, I completely dig the retro looks and having a big viewfinder in a small body.
Is full frame ?
Are you stupid? Can you read? The name of this site is 43 rumors. We only discuss cameras with 43 sensor. If you want a FF please move to a dedicated web page. You may be exactly right that the most advanced photography can only be made with a FF camera. That is debatable but I do not care to discuss. If you want to keep making a fool of yourself trying to discuss FF issues in a 43 site, OK, go ahead. Do you also go to the Mini blog arguing that if a car does not has 8 cylinders then it can’t be fun to drive?
Can you read? The name of this site is 43 rumors. We only discuss cameras with 43 sensor. If you want a FF please move to a dedicated web page. You may be exactly right that the most advanced photography can only be made with a FF camera. That is debatable but I do not care to discuss. If you want to keep making a fool of yourself trying to discuss FF issues in a 43 site, OK, go ahead. Do you also go to the Mini blog arguing that if a car has less than 8 cylinders then it can’t be fun to drive?
Ignore the lame troll. He can’t make it if we don’t feed him
I kinda’ like having Full Frame around. At least s/he uses the same name all the time and is very one-note. I hope s/he is not a bot; one should be paid honest money for that kind of dedicated shilling. 🙂
Otherwise, I agree, the best way to discourage trolls is to starve them.
Hm, I like trolls. Especially with better and better m43 cameras being released every year. APS-C fanboys are hardly anywhere to be found; there’s only the FF-only-don’t-know-what-MF-is wankers left, proclaiming shallow DoF and bokeh is what the world needs always.
YES!…this is a FULL-FRAME camera. Full MFT frame.
Exactly. This camera corrects the Barnack Abonimation of using two full-frame frames per shot, only because he just shot landscape with grainy pre-WW2 film. Hah!
Video is now offline, but I found a copy on uploaded 🙂
720p @ http://ul.to/9pf6imwp
480p @ http://ul.to/ngn5kn1s
This looks excellent and too good to be true. Love the new ergonomics and controls. Easy to see why there is no built in flash, this camera is for Pro’s only!
Yes! That’s why no pro has bought the Nikon D800… Sigh…
When you’re making a FF camera that big, you might as well throw one in. Ironically, the *real* pro Nikon bodies don’t have a flash, because it’s use is too limited.
So, the “pro” argument is fun, but in reality it boils down to this: for a small camera this serious, omitting the flash is the right thing to do. It would have been too weak to be taken seriously, the EVF has to have priority. Debate all you like, it is what it is.
G H 3
I was thinking more along the lines of upmarket cameras. Regardless, the GH-3 is a very nice camera, but without IBIS and a smaller viewfinder. Let alone PDAF. Only in the video dept could it beat the E-M5.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/clrndvdpovk8yas/Olympus%20OM-D%20E-M1%20Camera%20Hands-On%20-%20Video%20-%20Engadg.mp4
Many thanks for this video. 🙂
Thanks!
Thank you!!! 😀
Design by Frankenstein….
SO a question:
Will the PDAF sensor come to the pen series as well? Now that they have the technology, any reason not to? Unless that bigger EM1 body holds a bigger battery, which is necessary to focus those bigger lenses…
its a certainty that this tech will go to lower order models as well I think
theres another OMD waiting out there yet too dont forget
It depends, I think. If PDAF can be used for m43 lenses too, e.g. to support tracking, than the sensor might come to other cameras. If not, then it doesn’t make sense, since who would use the (mostly) huge 43 lenses with a PEN style body? The best 43 lenses are huge and for pro users, so it makes sense to only have a pro body for them.
As the m43 are used by hipsters and wannabes
For years I read that many Pen users (there was only Pen before OM-D) use 4/3 glass. I always have my left hand tucked under the lens if possible, carrying the body with that hand. So for me, Pen body or otherwise, that’s the best way when shooting larger lenses.
My 4/3 kit lenses (14-42, 40-150) are very light-weight and portable, btw, and much better optically than the only m43 zoom (14-150mm) I currenly use. Should be a pretty good match for a Pen E-P6 with PDAF.
But for now, the E-M1 will suffice, I think.
Looks like fake DIY version off the E-M5 model!! Even if its real one. I still don’t think this is the final version of the E-M1… Cos Olympus do make lots of good looking cameras 😛
Was expecting more. I think I’ll be picking up an em5 to backup my GH3 when the price of the em5 drops to $700.
TAKE MY MONEY… only final test I am interested in: Focus speed. He did say “nearly as fast”. But still, this is great news.
Hahahaha frakking lol…… Ugly and the size of dslr only with small old tweeked sensor for 1500 euro. Its pathetic. Oly not gonna last long if they keep this up.
Moron
Yeah yeah, ur FF Camera has it bigger. We heard it a million times. We 4/3 and m4/3 users are all dumbasses. Satisfied?
Ps: medium format user, have it bigger tthan urs
When Leica introduced the 35mm format, I wonder if they got a lot of troll mail from Graflex shooters. 🙂 At least they doubled the image size from the cine format.
Well when the Leica and other 35mm came out, they didn’t have troll mail as such but there was a lot of public trashing of 35mm in publications, newspapers, etc. After all those tiny little cameras could never compete with the Speed Graphics. Fortunately journalists and documentary photographers of the day saw the advantages of small, lightweight and versatile cameras, with easily interchangeable lenses and began capturing images that changed the way people everywhere saw the world. Yes the images were of “lessor” quality but it wasn’t the quality that people saw but the strength and dramatic, spontaneous nature that showed the world in ways they had seldom seen it before.
They had grain peepers instead of pixel peepers, but it was the photos and their stories that the public loved.
Nice reply, thx.
It’s a camera for people who already have or want to buy expensive Zuiko lenses. The price doesn’t matter much for these people who waited for years for a new camera they can use with HG Zuikos 😉 Wait 6, 9 months and the technology will be available in a body that will cost less. Maybe with a sensor, that is a little bit better.
But about sensor: It seems that the current sensor technology is at the limit since 2, 3 years. Or have you seen really big improvements in this time? I think, the next step would be a new sensor technology, but with the existing tech you can not expect much more.
You saw the bit with it sitting in the palm of the guy’s hand? It’s only slightly larger than an E-M5
Yep. Just a slightly enlarged E-M5 with a bad-ass viewfinder and CDAF+PDAF focusing. For people who thought the E-M5 should have been a little bigger, this is The One.
This camera looks very nice, just like the EM-5.
It has all the goodies of EP-5 and EM-5, and more.
I will get it if the price is right.
And its looking frakking FAKE!!!!!
Do you not understand the concept of “prototype”?
Shenkie darling, don’t let things get to you too much, ok?
Or its just very UGLY!!!!!
Wenkie dear, just take a few deep breaths. I personally think it’s rather beautiful, as in “One Beautiful System”. But really, people will decide for themselves. Get a grip, darling.
I used winder 2 on my old OM1n and OM2sp for the grip, so its nice to see Olympus produce a camera that looks like an OM4 with a built in grip and even the on/off switch were the rewind crank used to be. I do like the look of older cameras and do beleave its important that you like the look of your camera gear even if it is only a tool (would you buy a car you didn’t like the look or colour of?)I use Olympus Pen micro4/3 cameras because they produce the results I want and with adapters I can use my old OM, Nikon and M42 lenses. I like the E-M1 and I hope it will be very successful for Olympus
I think this E-M1 will be an very good camera to use on tipod on big FT lens so 35-100 F2, 150 F2, 90-250 F2.8 and 300 F2.8 if you use WIFI by Ipad and laptop, and also on al M43 lens so also is and will come. But if you walk around by an camera by an Lens on a 1000g i will i have mor two finger on grip, so we need anyway vertical grip, but you need also an realy grip by thumb.
Hi all,
Here is a link that I found for the E-M1
http://m43blog.com/olympus-om-d-e-m1-detailed-pictures-leaked/
Hope its not a fack LOL
JD
Thanks, but its FAKE!!!!!!
It’s fake, and you’re a fool.
Fake and fake, also E-M5 look fake up to days, one and half year after this come.LOL
extremely ugly, the EP5 is a much better camera.
I hope that’s one of the prototype made by Olympus, they “leak” this just to know the feedback before the annonce.
Is it me, or is the E-M1 on the tripod look like a little more advanced in terms of production quality?
Duh! That should be…
“Is it me, or DOES the E-M1 on the tripod look a little more advanced in terms of production quality?”
Hard to tell. But since they are both obviously pre-production or maybe even prototypes, I’m not worried about the little details that will improve with full production problems. Can never figure out why people freak out so much when they see a pre-production leak, that looks rough. Doesn’t matter who makes the cameras, if there is an early pre-production leak, the camera’s always have some rough spots.
Overall, while the design doesn’t completely flow, I still like it. Especially, that big, beautiful viewfinder, even if it does look a little out of place.
Daav, not a thing to add but commenting anyway. I feel the same. It’s all good. It’s the camera for me. Have to stop now, before I get all teary-eyed.
Very impressed with the IBIS demo. Sweet 4/3 Zuiko glass…. Here I come! 😀
But does it take BM1 batteries? I have 8 of them.
A bit of a concern is that they’re suing an MMF adaptor for the 4/3 lenses. I’ve been using the original Olympus MMF-1 with the ZD 8mm f3.5, 11-22mm f2.8-3.5, and 50mm f2 on a PEN. All manually focused (AF is too slow and especially with the 8mm unreliable). No exception, every lens focuses to beyond infinity. I know they want to make sure they get infinity focus and build it with tolerance in that direction. However, that also means you lose some close focusing capability, critical for both the 8 and the 50. I was hoping they’d come up with a much more native 4/3 mount that would eliminate this beyond infinity focus problem.
Am I the only person who’s noticed this beyond infinity focus? I can’t be with so many people using them. But I can’t find any mention to this problem for any of the MMF’s 1 through 3 online??
“No exception, every lens focuses to beyond infinity. I know they want to make sure they get infinity focus and build it with tolerance in that direction.”
Beyond-infinity is required for infrared photography. You should be seeing the same focus reach when you use your lenses without an adapter.
The MMF-1 has quite high tolerances, and has issues with a number of lenses. Quality improved with MMF-2.
What lens is on the camera during the ibis test in the video? It’s an olympus pancake and doesn’t look like the 17mm.
I’ve not too long watched the video. The camera reminds me of the E1 and in certain respects, its like a continuation of this line. I notice there are a lot of comments on the ascetics of the camera, I would wholeheartedly agree with one of the posts… I paraphrase. ‘it’s a camera!’.
As much as I love my OMD EM5, I have found issues when it comes to durability. Chips, poorly implemented eye pieces, which came loose, had to be replaced under warranty and the replacement replicating the initial issue… Don’t even get me started on the additional grip and the loose rubber.
I see this camera doing well on the proviso that it’s DURABLE, has SUPPORTED INFRASTRUCTURE by this I mean, fast turnaround for working professionals. Base ISO, DUAL SLOTS, CUSTOM FUNCTIONS which a dead simple to navigate. Ability to TETHER outside of WiFi options.
I’ve always liked Olympus/Sony, so the OMD EM5 was the best of both worlds. This camera may prove to be one which a person can travel with it globally… Time will tell.
This camera is obviously designed to please Four Thirds shooters. Which is why I’m not at all interested. I purposely bought into this system for weight and space consideration.
There is a market for professional grade Micro Four Thirds cameras in the 1.5 to under 2K area with features like:
– weather sealing
– high grade video codec (please, please, please deliver RAW as a choice)
– built in microphone jack
– built in head phone jack
– best possible body stabilization
Doubt we will see that anytime from Olympus but I sincerely hope that Panasonic with the GH4 or whatever comes next does something amazing. The GX7 is obviously not that camera but shows that Panasonic gets it.
This latest Olympus camera is very niche and at least not to me at all appealing. But if it makes some regular Four Thirds users happy — the more choice the better!
Well, this camera will be my biggest m43 camera for sure, but compared to any serious DSLR, it’s tiny. With a small m43 lens on it, it should still fit a really small bag IMO.
Looks nice, but seems a little bit to small for big lenses like 50-200…
It will get the job done with the 50-200mm SWD. Also, remember that if you use a tripod, the 50-200mm lens has a lens collar for the tripod, so the weight is primarily distributed across the lens and not the camera. I have this lens.
I really hope the narrator’s comment that “you can use PDAF when using 4/3 lenses, and CDAF when using m43 lenses”, doesn’t mean you can ONLY use PDAF with 4/3 lenses. That would be very disappointing.
Focus “almost as fast on 4/3 as on m43” doesn’t inspire confidence about using the fast tele zooms for shooting sports. If you already have 4/3 lenses, this may well be the body to get, but it doesn’t sound like the kind of performance that would attract sports photographers away from DSLRs.
I hope I’m wrong about both. If the handling and ergos are right, and PDAF works, and works well, with m43 lenses, this could be the first Oly camera that really interests me.
Now then, will it be possible to turn exposure bracketing on and off with one click, as opposed to Oly’s 12 or more button presses for each?
This is Sweet! Looks Perfect!
Hmmm, in the video the camera looks a lot better, and it also looks a lot more like the E-M5. It is hard to tell for sure, but I think it is not a lot bigger then the E-M5, just half an inch or less to the right, and the deeper grip. This should make the 43 users with good lenses happy, and perhaps some M43 users in need of faster AF as well…
high grade video features and im buying , would be crazy to release this without improved video
I’m sure it will be a competent tool, but damn, what a butt ugly, awkward object.
Unfortunatly it looks fake to me, just fake. Oly do not make ugly cameras like this one. it looks worse than a Turkish genuine fake gadget. I am sure the new camera will be a pleasent surprise as the OMD EM-5 was. 🙂
This is the real deal and a Home Run. This will be my next camera, no doubt about it!
Kiss the New Boss, on….The Hump!
It has real WiFi tethering!!! I wonder if Oly will come out with a PC/Mac version. Or, I finally have a reason to get an iPad. 🙂
Interesting placement of the Fn1 button.
so, and now I want more informations about the new lens…
Maybe one of you could answer this question:
Why should m43 lenses not support PDAF?
I mean 43 lenses were designed to be used with PDAF. Since PDAF knows from the first measuring in what “direction” and how far the lenses have to be moved, there is no hunting around the focus point needed. So the lens motors are not build to do these fast and frequent back and forth movements for CDAF and therefore are pretty slow when used with CDAF.
On the other hand CDAF lenses have motors which allow quick and fast hunting movements by various methods. But if the camera uses PDAF and therefore no hunting is needed, the lenses should work just fine as well. They could be even a bit faster.
Is this correct or am I missing something?
The hint is the fact that PDAF lenses require circular polarizers, whereas CDAF lenses can use a linear polarizing filter.
You are correct. There is no design limitation to any m43 lens that would prohibit PDAF use. I think the reason that it was worded that was is because most people who complain are complaining about the slow focus of 4/3 lenses, not m43 lenses. The other benefit of PDAF that they don’t addess (and will hopefully be improved in the E-M1 is the tracking focus of PDAF.
After looking at the video, the camera is not as ugly to the eyes, but not very pretty either. From what I can tell, the build quality doesn’t seem to match the ruggedness of the E5 or the metallic goodness of the E-P5.
Still disappointed with no built-in flash. I was hoping for a high flash like on the E3 and E5. This is an amazing oversight considering it is supposed to replace the E5. I think the LCD is just a tilt screen, not the swivel kind. Another oversight.
Buttons do look better than on the E-M5. I also like the function switch like on the E-P5.
I don’t care about WIFI.
One important point not remarked upon is the VF-4 and the Eye-Fi. this camera is for pro and the very affluent. They are both conservative categories. So they must be convinced:
– the EVF can replace to advantage the OVF
– they can get remote control of the camera and vision.
Therefore it’s no mistake that these are the main features shown in the video. Also the stabilised VISION.
Not one of these things would be allowed by an OVF. So it is a demonstration to them that they can trust the TRANSITION.
I didn’t pay attention too much but that 4/3 lens seemed to focus normally, althoug remotely, on the street below.
Do notice that 4/3 lenses are slower to focus than recent m4/3 lenses because they never had linear motors, and light groups in the first place.
Last this camera is designed for zoom lenses, therfore I expect to see it with the new constant 2.8 lens. There it will demonstate that category od dentists and money launderers that they can start to squander on new zooms – the fastest in the world! 🙂
My dentist friends say they are not making that much these days. Maybe you meant insurance executives.
Or deforestation investors in Romania, or fracking specialists bringing artificial earthquakes to Sussex, or…
There is a lot of choice lately 🙂
The trouble with this camera is that it does not seem adequately adorned like the Stellar, or the latest E-P5 Picasso. But it will come 🙂
I bought my used E30 from a dental student. Apparently Olympus Australia (which didn’t sell directly) sell cameras directly to the dental profession & so uni students get in & buy directly before heading off on their holiday (as mine did as a back up to his E3 going to Portugal).
I have uploaded the 720p version on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipENmyDr-nY
Disappointed: the only things I have missed from my E-M5 were 1) reliable C-AF and 2) clean HDMI out.
Included PDAF could probably bring superb C-AF, but the video said that PDAF would be used with 4/3 lenses. Maybe they have not implemented hybrid AF system yet. If I would consider carrying 4/3 sized lenses around, I might as well jump to 6D and L-series lenses that should offer even better quality.
Lets keep fingers crossed for clean HDMI – it should not take too much to implement and that they do implement proper C-AF with PDAF on m43 lenses.
Does the Pegasus display for the IBIS demo suggest that the E-M1 might have HMDI out? It’s funny that they don’t use the iPad app, so perhaps they are hardwired for a more steady, reliable video connection.
True – looks like they are using HDMI out for the demo. But they are not showing clean HDMI – it is just a mirror of the internal screen.
The reason for not using wifi is probably that the demo is built for expos that rarely have reliable wifi around. Wired connection is much better there.
My next camera, and I like my E-M5 but this is the one I have really been waiting for. Dual use of 4/3 and m4/3 lenses on a pro oriented frame, which looks smaller than the GH-3, but gets ‘big enough’ with the grip, just perfect. Wow, thanks Oly!
Did anyone notice the lenses in the background of the video during the image stabilization demonstration. Is that the new mft f2.8 zoom next to the 12mm f2?
Yes it’s like news versions of old 4/3 lenses behind…and it is a 17 m 2.8 mount on E-M1?
When taking photos, I usually care about what I see through the viewfinder, grip of the camera and access to controls. I never look at the camera when using it so it’s “looks” of the camera don’t matter much to me. I have many non-photographic tools that aren’t pretty but well designed to do the job very well!
The AF illuminator appears placed to be pretty useless with any large lens. Than again I don’t know where they could put it on such a sized body with large lenses.
Functions of dials and buttons seems a major improvement as well as the rocker/OK which is too small for my thumbs on my E-M5 Button reassignment hopefully will be more flexible than the on the E-M5 but with far more controls, that may be needed less.
Apparent lack of a built in “trigger” flash is a disappointment. Anybody paying the likely $ for this camera probably will want a “real flash(s). I hate taking the mini flash on and off my E-M5 and avoiding loss of the tiny plastic parts.
I also hope I can use various apps for it. Not constrained to an iPad or other specific devices. Laptops, Androids and Kindle HDs (an android variant) should all have apps.
This looks like a pretty nice camera to me! It SEEMS the grip, viewfinder and MAY be very much an upgrade from my E-M5. The proof will be in the actual product!
LOL! When -driving a car-, I usually care about what I see through the -windshield-, grip of the -steering wheel- and access to controls. I never look at the -car- when using it so it’s “looks” of the -car- don’t matter much to me. I have many non-transport tools that aren’t pretty but well designed to do the job very well!
I guess you are the proud owner of a Pontiac Aztek!
E-M1 – the perfection of four thirds and micro four thirds in one beautiful and highly professional system!
Congratulation and all the best to CEO Akira Watanabe and the entire Olympus imaging division!
+1
You can say that again, Well Done Oly!!!
How about to wait for some serious tests before to be so enthusiastic? 😉 And anyway, they should have made such a camera 2 years ago.
The E-M5 was maybe six months too late. This one – all things (I mean all: from financial scandals to R&D difficulties) considered is no more late than the E-M5. If the E-M5 is perceived as competitive by most, than this one will be too. Two years ago a sensor that combined CDAF + PDAF for an ILC would have been bizarre, it’s really a 2013 thing.
In sum: the timing is pretty much okay and given Oly’s track record, there’s every reason to be optimistic.
It makes me think of alpa cameras
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/alpa-field.shtml
I had the same feeling.
The more I think about it, the more I like it. It is still out of my price range though (by a lot).
Brilliant! !!
In one stroke, Olympus has greatly expanded the already unbeatable range of lenses in M43 and done that by adding some of the best lenses available anywhere. This ensures the other mirrorless can never, never, catch up in what many consider the most important thing for a system camera – lenses.
It also makes available now a true “pro” level camera by enhancing/fixing many features in the E-M5, like a huge EVF, even better weatherproofing (freeze proof), better ergonomics, higher shutter speed, and of course, again, making all those amazing 4/3 lenses usable on a mirrorless camera that is still compact.
It is not the camera for everyone, not even considered by many M43 user, just like the $6000 Canon 1DX is not for all Canon users, but it is getting a credible professional model, a new flagship, out and addressing a need that many DSLR owners will look for if they want to switch to a smaller and lighter system. It is about choice. There is now more choice for those who demand better. That can’t be bad, even though many here complain about the price, the looks or whatever. They can choose other models like the GX7, the E-P5, GH3, E-PL5…. since there is now a model to suit all tastes and needs.
+1
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what many of the posters here completely missed, the true significance of this camera,ie great range of lenses (if and when you need it), another choice (if you need a higher end and a truly “pro” model and something to upgrade to, if you ever want to but don’t have to.
There should be another E-M6 or something for those who want something smaller, lighter, and cheaper.
And to all the moaners about the looks, you have just shown your poor low-class tastes. This camera has the OM looks, the prettiest small SLR.
About the focus, Certainly the camera can use hybrid focus with m4/3 lenses. PDAF tell the lenses in which direction the focus groups must travel, then CDAF measures the contrast and stops when contrast is at maximum. Thus the lens is focussed.
It is only with non CDAF compatible 4/3 lenses that PDAF will be used mainly. Slower AF, I expect won’t come from PDAF but from ancient motors. Some of those lenses were slow and imprecise even with 4/3 lenses, so they wont much, despite the tales we are told about them.
it certainly is one of the goals of the E-M1 to allow better compatibility with those old beauties, but the other, perhaps more important one, is to allow CAF and tracking at the same level, or better, of the dSLR competition.
It is there that the camera will make or break the company’s future, because it means selling a host of new expensive zoom lenses.
I really hope you are correct!!!
{Note aside: This thread is getting too long, people are not reading or responding relevant comments, it’s a shame, most comments are just ignorant blabbering, mostly people who haven’t seen the video at all, or they have ADD}
Having read most comments about the design I have to say that I really care little for this camera as it’s not targeted at my demographic, as it is quite obviously directly aimed at 4/3 users and little else. Having said that though, the design looks just like an E-M5 with bits added on top, quite a disappointing job from Olympus, specially after such pretty and functional designs such as the E-M5 and E-P5, this looks more like a rushed job than the promised ¨One Beautiful System¨ Hybrid camera. I can understand the need for a bigger grip but these attempts to make m4/3 cameras back into DSLR sized monstrosities is bad for the system, it is, afterall, what killed 4/3 to begin with. Small sensor + big camera + even bigger lenses is an awful marketing strategy. IMO modularity was the one key asset of the OM-D line, small core body + 4/3 shell, that’s how it should’ve been done, now it’s just another GH3 than can get even bigger.
Design aside, the most important bit of these news is what this camera means for Olympus and the m4/3 system itself. My first impression is that this camera is a stop gap, a device to stop all the (justified) whining from 4/3 users and a way to validate m4/3 against the overwhelming amount of criticism of C-AF tracking of the system and an opportunity to expand the lens line-up. Of all the faults that other companies utilize as negative propaganda against m4/3, C-AF(T) is the one that needed attention the most. Now that sensor performance, lens catalog, IBIS, ergonomics and S-AF have been taken care of, only DOF can be utilized against the system, and that itself is a two-edged sword.
If Oly manages to deliver DSLR-level of AF-C/T and successfully promotes this camera to Pros (or wannabe Pros) who are into sports, wild-life and whatnot, then it’ll be a terrific promotional tool for the system. I may not care a single bit about this camera but I can see how useful and strategic it is for the longevity of the system, and that I care a lot.
Well, my last comment ended up a bit negative, I have to say, I find the camera pretty spot-on for its target demographic, it does indeed look closer to the aesthetics of 4/3 cameras, which I’m guessing it’s on purpose, so in that regard perhaps the design cannot be faulted. That said, the button layout or rather their styling looks awkward.
What’s important here is that every consumer is being catered for, m4/3 can officially pronounce itself as the most diverse and complete mirrorless system out there. When people here criticized the need for RF-styled cameras I always argued that diversity would the strongest asset of the system and that no body type should be criticized by other kind of users, now I live by my word and have to recognize that maybe this body type has its place in m4/3 and a strategic function for the positioning of the system. This is hopefully the camera that could open the door for Olympus into the DSLR obsessed US market, although, for that, Oly needs to seriously tone it down with the overpricing, this should be $1200 not $1500 if it ever hopes to have any success against Canikony’s salesmen army.
Great point. I think pricing has been the major downside for m43. While the older models are currently dirt cheap but still very capable, it just doesnt attract new users as much a cheap and capable new product. I think olympus did a great job on the e-pl5. I still think they can do better. The aps-c market is littered with people who think they need a dslr. I believe m43s long term success depends on winning those users. However, the sales and marketing jauggernauts of canon and nikon puts oly with quite a handicap.
I think if Olympus will into the DSLR US market by this camera the need more mpx for an price on over $ 1000, camera need also be usable by glove on, and we can not say customer is wrong, the customer have right all time by shop counter anyway. 😉
Agree with you on this comment. Also the OM-D and PEN lines are all Oly need, but I would like to see an EVF in the top Pen camera. I would happily have this E-M1 and an E-P6 with internal EVF. The two would suit anything I want to do.
Rollon Kodak coming in at the lower end of the market and Oly (I include Pany here as well) giving those with ‘The Bug” a ladder to climb
You are writing about stuff you have no idea about, right? These “ancient” motors are driven by the lens’ CPU, which is being commanded by the camera’s CPU and this combination + firmware combination gives the final speed of the AF. Ask someone, whoc knows how long a 50mm FT macro takes to cycle on a, say E-420, E-3 and E-5 – these are very different numbers.
Wow, this video is being analysed almost as much as the zapruder film of the kennedy assasination! Is it the real thing or was it the ugly prototype on the grassy knoll?? We may never know..
yeah the FBI just picked up the Engadget guy
he’s a former Cuban dissident Raul Sanchez Amerio
What sort of crackhead thinks that the video is “fake”? Why, possibly, would engadget create a “fake” OMD model, with fake wifi that mounts a 4/3rds lens and a fake 5 axis IBIS test? Seriously, use your brains a little guys.
+1000!!!!
I really wonder if there are people out there so utterly clueless or if it’s just an act of trolling, then again, stupidity cannot ever be underestimated. They always appear here, they came here when the GX7 and E-P5 were leaked and shouted fake like no tomorrow, yet, once again, they were proven wrong. In fact, I cannot remember ever seeing a leaked photo in this site that wasn’t the real thing. These people have no clue about how manufacturing companies work, what’s a prototype or a render, they’re the lowest common denominator of society, You have to wonder how they ever managed to use internet explorer (because you know for a fact they’re using it) and navigate to this site.
LOL_
Agreed. This is the sign the system is growing in audience into the p&s crowds, and also this is the record post on this site! >600 posts amazing. At least we were spared a lot of drips by Olympus marketing, LOL!
“What sort of “crackheads… … ? ”
Simple. You know, there are many of them who frequently come to M43rumors to check the latest and then make some remarks about the superiority of FF cameras blah blah. I think they are threatened DSLR users, and some may be NEX users, who are also loving the M43 developments, knashing their teeth in envy, but want to resist changing over by talking M43 and trying to convince themselves their systems are better. Poor souls.
Lol……….. Why do we need to “make some remarks about the superiority of FF cameras”. Lions don’t concern themselves with dogs and cats.
Whoops, you goofed. Lion’s conservation status:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulnerable_species
“A Vulnerable species is one which has been categorized by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) as likely to become Endangered unless the circumstances threatening its survival and reproduction improve.”
Cats and dogs appear a lot more future proof, dear. The only FF cameras that are sure to exist forever are Leicas.
I’m really in awe of what a great job was done in getting someone who looks and sounds just like Richard Sasserath from Olympus Imaging to play the role of Richard Sasserath from Olympus Imaging. Amazing what you can do with Photoshop! LOL
Best observation of the day. 😉
The only conclusions I can draw here are that either he’s in on it, or that’s a reptilian in a human suit. WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW DEEP THIS FAKE GOES!!!!
The grip looks glued on.
480 comments!?!?
is this a record?
boooo – I was expecting the modular OM/blad shame thingy
Now, where did I put my tiny Ricoh GR …
No, I think the record is over 700, some E-P5 or E-PL5 related post. We’re on a path to brake it, though :).
As for E-PM1, the price and the lack of flash are putting me off. I’ll probably go with GX7 for a couple of years, until PDAF goes into lower end Olympus models, E-Px series I hope.
To break, not to brake :D.
This camera looks great side on and from the back and even better with the grip but it really does look strange front on.
I zoomed in on the video where the grip joins with the camera and it looks like it’s just stuck on there.
Regardless, frankenstein or not the biggest annoyance for me is waiting 3 months till it’s release.
I skipped the em5 because I thought if that’s a sign of things to come I’ll wait till it gets even better, so I continued using my ep3 while I buit up my m43 lens collection, sold my e5 while it was worth a bit and kept the e3 as a life line for classic 43. The point being, this em1 is a HUGE advance in technology from an e3 or ep3 in so many ways that what it looks like is certainly not of primary importance, besides the the elegant and gorgeous em7 in two tone silver will retire my ep3 when it comes out in about a year with most certainly a new sensor and a few Olympus surprises.
@Mr.Reeee – I did notice that film rewind crank too. Looks interesting but I wonder where they’re going with that?
The Pontiac Aztek of cameras! But hey, they sold 27 000 of those, so you know there is always a market for these things… 😀
You. Are. A. Spambot.
Lol, I’m sure you own one!!!
The only reason they sold those 27,000 Aztechs was because of the special “Trade Your Used Yugo In Any Condition Evenly for a New Aztech” promotion.
+1!
I hope Olympus sells enough of these to make it’s development profitable. It certainly looks like a very capable camera. For those who are invested in 4/3 glass this is a nice camera. But I wonder how many of those folks grew impatient and haven’t already moved on to Canonikon.
Nerver underestimate the size thing. People are contacting me to find out where they can unload their bigger gear. It’ll take some time to transition. But iPhones have created huge ripples through the photo community. People do like smaller cameras.
I own the 7-14, 50-200, 12-60, 50 macro, 25 1.4, 1.4 tele, and tons of batteries flashes and stuff. My E30 broke over a year ago and I have been waiting for this body. I hope it takes BM1 batteries as I have 8 of those as well.
gotta say. olympus is hitting home runs. EM5,EP5, now EM1 rumored . I hope that panasonic does the same thing with on sensor PDAF. there are a few 4/3 lens I can afford that would be real nice to shoot on micro 4/3. 35 and 50 macros and 70-300 are all under 500. then there is always the dream of 14-35 f/2!!! this might have a certain panasonic GH2 owner (who looks a lot like myself) buying olympus when it comes time for a new camera unless panasonic comes out with PDAF also. are you listening pany???
Ep5? A home run…
It is if they drop the price $400!
“Home Run?” Didn’t Oly just announce that their Pen sales dropped by a double-digit percentage, which they weren’t prepared for.
The whole industry dropped, you idiot!
I may be an “idiot,” but I do read financial reports, WSJ, etc., especially about this market. All the mirrorless dropped, but the amount of the Pen (and I don’t remember exactly which cameras were included for the figures) line was far more severe than expected and of the projected declines of similar lines with other companies. Reuters, NYT, and WSJ all discussed it. There was even speculation that the whole retro thing may be ending, which may have been an influence on the design of the new Oly.
Hint: Try to be a little more polite in your posts; this is only a discussion.
Steve Huff weighed in on it as well with his take on it. Calling it the King of Micro 43. I think he likes it.
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/08/18/the-olympus-om-d-e-m1-the-king-of-micro-43/
Another little web blog also giving their thoughts. Is this thing getting contagious? Like it or not, it is getting lots of attention. Whew!!! http://lightweaversblog.blogspot.com
He also made a smart comment noticing how some details (on the sensor etc.) were totally absent from the video. He thought this was leaked on purpose from Olympus because some details are on purpose not mentioned at all.
I’d reckon the same thing, it’s a bit of a weird video that raises a lot of questions. Probably Oly is in control here. The wanted 500+ comments here, maybe they’re getting 1000. Let’s see how crazy things get at stevehuffphoto.com.
Ugly and big with an old sensor for 1500$?
Its not a problem here just as long as it says olympus!!
Somebody should link the comments from the SAME people here when the GH3 price was posted. Hilarious!
It is not an old sensor, stupid!
New sensor, not old.
That’s OK. A lot of people will buy a camera just because it has Canon on it. 😉
“…not a problem here just as long as it says olympus!!”
Eh? According to my informal estimate, the majority of comments claim that it is an ugly camera. Which of course is a valid point of view, but not really interesting. I haven’t seen the real thing, so I may end up thinking it is ugly, I may end up thinking it looks like the majority of Canon or Nikon cameras (solid, functional), and I may end up liking its looks.
It seems rather that *your* problem is that anybody at all likes it and considers buying it??
I really hope Olympus has paid attention to video modes on the E-M1.
If it can do 1080,60p at a decent bitrate, they have a real game changer here.
This camera with the 5 axis image stabilization has the potential to be a huge hit with live Event and ENG users if the video performance and codec is up to snuff.
Fingers crossed the video is not crippled on Sony’s behalf.
Actually the camera looks pretty impressive to me. And any option that instantly expands lens range possibilities, is imo, a big bonus for the system. To all those complaining about the aesthetics, especially omd owners, i do not understand your gripes. The camera is Identical to the omd, just with added grip to compensate for larger 4/3 glass.
The only thigs i dont like are: lack of built in flash, amd the reported 1500 price tag.
Im a panny g3 user btw
I like it and am awaiting more information!
Oops. Now that they have linked the picture I will NEVER buy one of these cameras. The leak has completely ruined it for me. Otherwise I was ready to place a site unseen preorder regardless of price even though the camera will lose 80% of its value in the first 18 months of its existence just like every predecessor since the E-P1.
Well ok….maybe I will buy it from eBay for $300.00 in late 2014.
I got my E-P1 at a very, very good discount long after it was released (still enjoy it), but the prices you mention just ain’t gonna happen. Nikon V cameras’ recent discounting comes close, but still you’re off the mark.
Have a look at ebay and see what *used* 4/3 gears sells for, darling. This camera will be operating in that league. You’re out of touch with reality here.
You mean prices like this:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC0.A0.XE-p1&_nkw=E-p1&_sacat=0&_from=R40
And this:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Digital-Cameras-/31388/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=E-p2
And this:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=E-p2&_osacat=31388&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR5.TRC0.A0.XE-p3&_nkw=E-p3&_sacat=31388
It will happen GreasyMouse, sure as your next post darling.
Admin, the Youtube movie has just been removed.
Yup you are right, it’s gone. Glad I saw it when I did.
You still can view it @ Steve Huff website. link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/clrndvdpovk8yas/Olympus%20OM-D%20E-M1%20Camera%20Hands-On%20-%20Video%20-%20Engadg.mp4
Nope, gone there now too. They yanked the youtube movies, due to Engadget copyright.
No Daav…you can still view the vid @ Steve Huff..
Whoops my bad. He had a link to the YouTube video that was pulled. Didn’t see his download link.
Engadget is really dumb if they think they are going to control a video because of so-called ‘rights’. Any thing you post to the web can and will circulate and even go viral. It’s like engadget is trying to stuff smoke back into a jar and seal the lid. It is so easy to do a video screen capture of a running video too. Anyway, I just watched the 5 minute or so video. http://goo.gl/BGb2AE
I am a EM-5 owner. I love my camera, I have an emotional relationship with my camera. Why? Because it’s pretty, it feels good in my hands, and it has been crafted to be true to itself. If the body remained for the most part the same, I would upgrade. With what I saw, I will not. My largest gripe would hands down be the battery grip. I liked how on the EM-5 it was optional. It left the camera slim. I absolutely HATE chunky cameras, and this is what made me choose it over the GH2. There is nothing wrong with people who like DSLRs and chunky hand grips. More power to you! For me, its a deal breaker. It will no longer feel special, but just another look-a-like. I would rather get a GH-3 if I were to ever upgrade if that is the only option Olympus is putting out. Or if I simply want video, I’ll get a black magic pocket cinema camera as a companion. There are lots of options in the market that can seriously kick the ass of the “EM-1”. I can understand it is targeted at professionals. I can appreciate that. What made the OM-D unique was is quarks. I guess what ever sells more cameras, but will making the “EM-1” more like the GH-3 (and failing at it)sell more of your stuff? I would say no. Now you are just a copy cat with specs and features that you are outclassed in. I might very well be a disappointed fan boy. If the split is so bad, why not just get a GH-3 for video, and get a Fuji Film XE-1 for stills and sell off my EM-5? That is how I view it. The EM-5 is good, but not the best at anything, but did well enough in an attractive body to be desirable. Fujifilm cameras take way better stills, GH-3 takes far better video. The EM-5 was a nice in-between for people who wanted a good bit of both. So you want to make a professional line, and still not get it right. Maybe if you mark the price down on the “EM-1” far below that of the GH3, it will sell. Maybe I’m being to harsh. Maybe I’m being silly. I just know that it would defeat the purpose of having an OMD that is not chunky, and not professional enough looking to scare people away that you point it at. I vote to keep it tight, and neat. Leave the grip optional, and stay in the middle. You’re pushing into GH3’s market and I don’t see people choosing the “EM-1” over the GH-3 when A) it looks like a Frankenstein B) wont have the video features and C) wont be able to compete with features. *sigh* -omd fanboy rants-
That’s fine if you don’t like it but if you had lenses worth between $1000 to $3000 (plus) & a body like this E-M1 was available to use them effectively (for AF) on as well being able to use the very nice M4/3’s primes, then you would be telling a different story.
I, on the other hand love it, because of tge extended battery grip. Really. This is not otbmeant meant as a repleacement of em5: rhat will come later in 2014.
So, in one Word Samuel, it’s not meant for you..
After reading someone’s thoughts, I decided yeah, its not for me, its not aimed at me, and I’ll just wait for the next EM5. this appears to be aimed at people with 4/3rd lenses. I’d be pretty upset to if all I had was the E-5.
I’m a happy EM-5 owner, and I’ll probably stay that way without a compelling upgrade. I’m not too interested in 4/3rds glass right now, and there aren’t any other features here that I find particularly compelling. I’ll probably buy the next “EM-5” series camera with an upgraded sensor and/or upgraded viewfinder. If I were coming into the system right now, OTOH, I would seriously consider the EM-1, by the time you add the HLD-6 onto the EM-5, you’re getting there.
+1
Rarely reply here but I will this time. First off, I am a 4/3 user and would consider myself an advanced amateur. I do not make money off my cameras. I hedged my bet a long time ago and built up my 4/3 lens line up because I felt that Olympus had done their homework before they launched the E-1 and found that the size of the sensor for 4/3 would be the optimum in order to build optimally sized lenses that would provide the optimal image quality for the size of the sensor and camera system. I don’t know whom of you remember Irwin Putts, for those who do not, he was, and believe still is, a Leicaphile who knows everything about Leica cameras, lenses and their history. Well, back in 2004-2005, he had mentioned, while analyzing the Olympus E-system, that he felt that the E-1 could be the Barnack camera of the digital age. For those who do not know Oskar Barnack, he was the visionary who developed the Leica 135mm camera system. WE are now 8 years hence from that statement of Irwin Putts. the camera industry has evolved and so have the cameras and design goals of Olympus as they react to the ever changing market forces and developing technology. As of now, 2013, I do not think that anyone can challenge that Olympus has developed a great line up of lenses for the 4/3 system. Image quality was always top notch with the only limiting factor being not being the lenses but the resolving power of the sensor. That has changed dramatically since the cameras after the EM-5. The question is whether sensor technology will further improve since it appears that the Zuiko lenses are still out resolving the sensors. Somewhere, I have read that the theoretical resolving limit of the 4/3 Zuikos will come when the pixel density is at about the 20-22 million pixel count. Correct me if I am wrong. I am sure that there will be those who will say that the other lens systems are as good or better than the Zuikos and besides, the 4/3 Zuikos are Huge for the sensor size. To those, this is my rebuttal. Zuikos for 4/3 are designed to be near optimal at their largest aperture. A Zuiko 4/3 f 2.0 lens is great at f2.0, optimal at 2.8. None of these f1.4 lenses which are optimal at f4.0 or 5.6. That to me is marketing, not optimal lens design. This is the reason that I think that the 4/3 Zuikos are so desirable. And we are not even talking bokeh, but that truly is subjective. If the EM1 is a real camera, they have addressed another issue, size. It appears that the size advantage for the 4/3-m4/3 system has finally been realized. There may be a caveat tho since there are those who I am sure are clamoring for an optical view finder. I can still see merit with an optical finder but I have not yet seen the implimentation of the EVF of the EM1. I withhold judgement until I get to experience it. I have an EM-5 and I know that there are quirk in the viewfinder that gets int he way of the picture taking experience. Tweaking it may be what I need to do.
If there is a failing that Olympus has persistently made and have not optimally improved on, it is their focusing algorithms. They are able to produce accurate focusing but their continuous focus and predictive focus sucks. If there is anything they need to address it is this failure.
Now the price for the EM1. If they price this at $1500, I should expect to see the add on flash, the MMF-3 and the vertical grip in the box. Or at least one of the latter 2 items.
I await the announcement….
Ok the question is wich one is the ugliest ? E-m1 or gh3 ? Shure ithe olympus will perform better now waiting fir the gh5. Hysteria
Ugly compact cameras? Canon 100D and Pentax K-01 both look like Cinderblocks in real-time due to their demand to hold onto the penta-mirror spec dynamics, which shrinking dimensions.
Adding a larger grip to the previous OM-D eM5 isn’t exactly horror cosmetic surgery … for my own taste the rubber grippy aspect is probably the ugliest aspect. But it’s also very functional. Things less stylish, tend to be very practical.
A camera is just a device to put lenses at work. Olympus however never forgot the lesson of the demise of the OM system: finding an appropriate AF system, where it came late compared to other brands.
Now according to Steve Huff’s comments today, it has the most progressive system.
That is, it has the best lenses, and the best AF system – this is the meaning of the E-M1.
People still occasionally complain about the sensor’s size. But it was always chosen to maximise IQ, thanks to lenses that are second to none in terms of resolution. Even, they must have twice as much resolution in order to compete with FF, but they have it, and contrary to FF they have it *across the frame*.
In fact my economy primes, the Sigmas, show they have better resolution across the frame than when mounted on Sony NEX, despite it provides the sensor to the E-M5.
The E-M1, and its not indifferent price, confirms however that the investment in m4/3 is perhaps the best around. It has some of the best lenses, the speediest AF system, and it can offer all the digital perks its customers can imagine: the surprising Eye-Fi showing a thing that optical dSLR can’t really do as radically.
Some here prefer to wait for Sony NEX FF and object that the price might be the same, and the optical yield better? Well, as they say in my Internet corner, I am going to buy a bag of peanuts, and have a laugh later. Qui vivra, verra 🙂
So why they have very poor performance in low light ?
Sheesh! Get a clue, m43 is not in competition with FF, and FF is not in competition with m43, anymore then it competes with medium or large format. Each one has its place and purpose.
Each one has its place. You want a FF, get one and enjoy it. Some people don’t want the bulk and weight, not to mention the even higher cost of quality lenses to really take advantage of the FF sensor.
There have always been different cameras for different purposes/uses and there will alway be. Get what you want and go out and take some photos. Use your full frame instead of just rambling on without rhyme or reason about it.
+1
from SteveHUff….”you have to take into consideration..size, weight, cost and joy of use. For some it will be Micro 4/3, no contest. Others will stick with the trusty DSLR. The oM-D E-M5 has propven itself many times over and I have seen and taken images with it that beats many full frame images I have seen. It’s just as capable as any other camera in 96% of situations.”
Hey, I’d lug around the hubble telescope too if I could but not everybody needs to put batman on a magazine. 🙂
Thanks for always allowing others to put the record straight with questions like these! 🙂
I’d love to explain to you how IBIS allows low ISO in low light, but won’t bother as your IQ appears to be inversely proportional to your frame size.
Wow, big cock-up for engadget to leak this so early. Literally no teaser photos this time, just full on showing everything including video.
I can actually get on with some work now rather than keep checking this website daily 🙂
The EM-1 is doing nothing in particular groundbreaking, and as a early EM5 owner, that makes me happy. The freeze-proof body was about the only thing that impressed me. Also the grip (in particular the thumb side) looks nice too. Although now the option of transporting a tiny body is gone, I guess that’s down to the EP series anyway.
For me the EM5 was the obvious choice. But that’s less clear for this years models, which is a shame as Olympus needs more home runs, especially if they are going to price the camera up with high end Canon models.
Many experts consider PDAF+CDAF particularly groundbreaking because it’s an enabling technology, not just another 10% this, 20% that improvement. This is why almost *all* companies are going after it.
Secondly, we’ll have to wait for more information as this video has shown very little (and nothing that wasn’t expected, except – for some and to my amusement – the looks).
Maybe I’m looking at this all wrong. After reading flipinus’s opinion, I’ve changed my mind. This is not some sort of EM-5 upgrade, but rather a E-5 upgrade. I still think its ugly what ever it is. thinking of it more of a 4/3 instead of a M4/3 camera makes me feel better for some odd reason. Maybe the next iteration of the EM-5 will be for me 🙂
So wrong the is more an E-620 or E-30 upgrade.
But this have only tilt screen and not OVF, maybe the longest Olympus will to at make an video camera, but i not know.
It’s much more than an E5 upgrade with it’s M4/3’s mount. It has all the M4/3’s lenses & other MF lenses (directly or with adapters) that couldn’t be used on the E5 available for it too.
LOL maybe this is an new OM-2SP so come after OM-3 and OM-4. But I also think E-M1 is fine for at use on ild MF lens.
This looks to be a SMALL camera, barely larger than the EM5. Nice.
Thankfully the EVF is now of a decent size! I hope it’s the current state of the EVF art. We deserve a true wysiwyg viewing experience. Been waiting for it since the original Pana G1…
I use the GH3, and keeping my fingers crossed that this EM1 will satisfy the complaints I have w/the Pana (a very good camera which might have been a truly great camera if it had only been more carefully executed).
My prayers to the gods on Mt. Olympus:
1. May the video be Seriously good.
This is still The killer mirrorless/evf advantage, Oly must not overlook it. Not to mention, the OIS needs high quality video capture to fully show off it’s stuff. If they make the video near the level of the GH3’s, this camera could really make waves.
2. May the LCD swivel, And have well implemented touch focus that can be used while viewing thru the EVF (a huge under-appreciated feature of recent Pana’s).
Make my wishes above come true, and I’ll gladly pay full retail for it. -Which I’ll bet will be closer to $1300 by release time (also a la GH3).
I think Oly purposely leak it to disrupt GX7 pre-orders, LOL.
No way. Different camera niches, different target markets. Don’t disagree that Oly may have “leaked” it – lotsa companies do regularly. However, it would have made more sense if some fantastic video capabilities were leaked, causing potential GH3 purchasers to hold off…
GX7 is not even weather sealed! GX7 is not even in the same class of E-M5, let alone E-M1.
Except for the utterly essential (well..) weather sealing, what are the other reasons why it’s not in the same class?
GX-7 and E-P5 are in the “compact rangefinder-like” class. It’s not about what class is better, just that it’s different in terms of use cases. However for many, it could very well be that PDAF + IBIS + great video output makes this preferably to the GX-7 and the (same class) GH-3. In that case, video is the main use case, not styling or ultimate portability.
Weather sealing is overrated on M4/3 when you only have 3 lenses out of 40 that are sealed. Heck, I would not want to have my E-M5 anywhere near liquid, there have been reports of water coming in from the grip contact below.
Yeah, what can E-M1 do that GX7 can’t? Ability to use expensive FT lenses? Those f/2.0 grade lenses are as big, heavy & more expensive (as much as $400-500 more) than their Canikon counterparts. Might as well get FF DSLR at that size & price.
I own some of those lenses, my friend. They’re weather-sealed, dust-proof, relatively compact and very fast-focusing. Image quality beats every m43 lens (except 75mm), including prime lenses. I prefer them to Canikon’s slower and larger offerings. With 5-axis IBIS and PDAF, we are talking about “a king” indeed.
Not saying that other cameras are bad all of a sudden. Just that this one could be very, very good.
No sir, I’m not doubting the quality of Zuiko pro lenses. For those who heavily invested in FT lenses, the E-M1 is the ultimate camera. But for others, it is hard to justify the hefty price tag.
I’m not sure which FT lenses you have but Zuiko 14-35 f/2.0 is same size & weight as Nikon 24-70 f/2.8, but $500 more expensive. While the Zuiko 35-100 f/2.0 is 1cm longer, 100g heavier & $200 more expensive than Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 VRII, which has VR built-in. Canon 70-200 f/2.8 IS II is even shorter & lighter then the Zuiko.
On top of that you still need to add another $160 for MMF3. The 1 stop advantage of f/2.0 is nullified by much better ISO & shallower DOF on FF sensor. So based on these specs & price, I fail to see how they are better.
I have both E-M5 & D600, while the E-M5 is excellent, FF is simply on a different level. Every system is a compromise, the M4/3 at the moment has the best balance due to its moderate price, small size, full features & very good IQ. Pushing the size & price too far may work against them.
Too many effn whiners!
Oly launches a weather-proof larged griped camera with on sensor pdaf to support the great 43 lenses, huge evf and the same award winning ibis and people still find stuff to complain about!
A few weeks ago, pany launches a rangefinder styled camera with a tilting evf, built in flash, magnesium body, ibis and the all important retro look and people still had complaints!
Then there are still people hellbent on preaching FF this and FF that! Why the heck are you guys still here?
Just enjoy the good news guys! Great times for m4/3!
Halelujah in freakin deed! GX-7 + E-M1 = taking m43 to another level and saving 4/3 to boot.
FF fanboys are a afraid. They shouldn’t be yet; it will take at least another generation of sensors before FF will be challenged properly.
Engadget posts about leaks all the time. Funny that they don’t like it when they are the leakers.
I think this camera will be a success. Looking forward to the new information.
Wow, I had no idea someone could make a camera this ugly in the year 2013.
It looks great. A complicated and serious machine look. I would buy one for the awesome look of it even I don’t need most of its features!
Reading these comments, I am amazed that so many so called photographers have totally useless screens for editing. The comments of so many indicate useless low res equipment. If your going to be critical at least look at the video in a high res. Many of the problems seen by a few do not stand up under a high res viewing. Particularly the grip. Look at 1m 22s under high res its a nice smooth curve into the body.
I might also add that it would seem some of the ones complaining are also the ones who complain about resolution, IQ, sensor size and other things. Yet it would seem these people only use very low res image output devices. So maybe they should wise up to the quality of their screens and display devices first.
Admin, any word on that HDR button on the top of the camera, on the LCD. I took a screen shot of the video, and it clearly says HDR, among a few other things I couldn’t make out. Could it be some sort of one shot HDR capability? Also on the front of the camera it looks like it may have Sony’s magic 3rd dial. Would be great for ISO change!
I saw that too. Took a look at it, and along with the HDR are the self-timer symbols and the motor drive frame speed symbols. It looks like it would be a one stop button to select HDR, set your # of frames to shoot and the exposure offset. Or in other words a multi-purpose button for all those items. (Just my best guess). Below that, when looking from the back, above and upside down when looking from the front, it shows a sensor pattern graphic and AF next too it. So that looks to be the button to set your Auto focus pattern or selection. It may also double as an AE exposure pattern button. My guess is these would probably work using the front and rear control dials.
Not sure what you meant by Sony’s Magic 3rd dial. If you are referring to the time on the top right corner that kind of looks like a dial, that is just the Flash sync port cover. That is for connecting to Studio Strobes instead of going through the hot shoe. Wouldn’t be a Pro camera without it.
word time should be item instead when referring to the top right of the camera.
The two buttons on top of the power switch, AF mode/metering pattern & Drive mode/HDR would be adjustable with either the front or rear dials (with each adjusting one or the other parameter) & the switch at the AEL/AFL button might even extend the dial options for those buttons too. On the E5 (& E3 & E30), the two buttons on the left (back with similar designation) can be pressed simultaneously for bracketing & maybe that might be possible for this too or else the HDR labeling might be part of that bracketing selection possibility.
Yes, Ross, a user of an E5 (or E3) would be familiar with these handy buttons and their individual / dual functionality giving shortcuts to functions, and then changing the chosen function with the front or rear dials. Seems like a marry/merger of 4/3 and m4/3 body features, hopefully with ruggedness and sealing built in. By the way, notice the thicker part of the rear screen frame on the left top (viewed from the rear)? Would not be needed for a screen that only tilts, but needed to strengthen the screen frame for a swivelling and tilt function methinks…..
The side we have not seen in this leaked video is the left hand side of the camera viewed from the rear. This is where the goody-connenctions are, including a microphone jack on the E5. We can only hope….
I agree about the left side. Even after showing us practically the whole camera, we still do not have ALL the answers because we haven’t seen the bottom, and we have not seen the left side. The IBIS demo suggests the left side has HDMI video out, but we haven’t seen it. The left side would have the mic in, but we haven’t seen it. And perhaps the left side has other connectors (e.g., GPS in), but we haven’t seen it.
I do very much hope that you are right about the bulge off the left side of the back screen — that the E-M1 has a fully articulating screen (very useful for podcasting, etc.). And I do hope Olympus supports Euro formats (25/50) and some seriously upgraded codecs — so they can start catching up with the big boys, and use their IBIS to take advantage of their IBIS advantage in video.
Occam, it’s not just Europe that needs these video specs, many other countries use/have adopted the Euro standards also.
On the E5, the connectors on the LHS under the weathersealed flap are MIC, HDMI, USB, A/V out, and DC Power in for long use sessions. Also, a connection for remote shutter release or timed exposures under a separate screw-on circular cover. Let’s hope….
Olympus has a lot to offer. I hope the E-M1 is the beginning of Olympus hitting on all cylinders.
I’d rather save my pennies and go with the Sony FF. The grip on the E-M1 isn’t a bad idea, just the implementation. Why did they have to give it a diet. The point of a grip is that you can grip it and not just wrap your fingers around it. The E-1 was great in that sense. When I held it I thought I was connected to the camera.
And what is with the power button on the left side. With all that space I should not need to use two hands to turn on the camera. I can pull my 5DII out of my bag with one hand and turn it on at the same time. Let this cook a while longer and make something that doesn’t look like some high school science project made in his parents’ garage.
why didn’t Oly just stick the PD-AF sensor in the E-M5 and call it a day?
At least Olympus did a good job for those who still keep a fine zuiko glass, and even with “only” look like EP5 body+E30 grip+EM-5 OVF with a lot improvement since E5, i think this really a big game changer not only for previous Oly user but might be from others…now,shall we wait for further tested on AF with SWD/Zuiko lenses
Olympus’ 10 yr strategy may position them for domination in the mirrorless realm for some time to come. Remember, the 43 sensor was designed from the ground up to be optimized for digital photography. And all the lenses for both 43 and m43 were based on that same architecture. Canon nor Nikon will ever have that type of homogeneous relationship between the lenses and various platforms (as they currently exist). It will always be using a FF lens on crop sensor, etc. This is why the Zuikos are so sharp edge to edge and you’ll have maximum performance always across both families of lenses…no compromises. Coupled with the Sony sensors and now you’ve really got something formidable. The lens line up for Olympus just took a quantum leap forward. Certainly there will be no competition for the breadth and scope of range for any other mirrorless system for some time. This should really build on the splash the EM5 initially made 18 month ago. dSLR is going to become more and more antiquated. We just need great video and there is nothing more to want…for now anyway:)
Fangirl much?
Well, owning both systems (Nikon FF and 43-OBS), he has a point or two. Besides, it’s not in the usual fanboy tone.
Fact is, nobody who’d want a serious 43-OBS camera is complaining (yet). The video shows that Oly is about to deliver.
Like some others, when I saw the first image I was not optimistic. However I very soon changed my mind. I have looked at the video several times and looking at the video over it seems that this camera fits many of the requests made here and elsewhere. (and the parts do fit together when viewed on something decent)
It has plenty of ‘walk around’ credibility with a wide range of lenses available. It will handle studio work well with the remote functions and external flash connection and again suitable lenses are available.
Added functions seen on buttons include HDR. Several other functions are moved from the menu to buttons in the top left side pod/dial/switch. Seems we may have focus peaking as well noted by admin yesterday.
Now! Do we have my settings 1 to 4 selectable by name and by a quick access? Do we have dual cards (cover looks big enough)? Do we still use the Em5 battery or do we have to fork out another kings ransom for spares? and there are lots more “inside” questions.
Looks like my Bronica (full system) and lenses might need to find a new home. Along with the E30 and I think the …. should go……
Reading these comments, I am amazed that so many so called photographers have totally useless screens for editing. The comments of so many indicate useless low res equipment. If your going to be critical at least look at the video in a high res. Many of the problems seen by a few do not stand up under a high res viewing. Particularly the grip. Look at 1m 22s under high res its a nice smooth curve into the body.
I might also add that it would seem some of the ones complaining are also the ones who complain about resolution, IQ, sensor size and other things. Yet it would seem these people only use very low res image output devices. So maybe they should wise up to the quality of their screens and display devices first.
Why is everything going to moderation?
And why are the posts getting out of order. some being 5 hours older than new ones?
Maybe because it’s being inundated with posters. 😉
Poor admin has enough to do without trawling through the administration ones.
Is it me or are there two Fn1 buttons?
It’s a shame it looks like this but if this is the final product then I’m very happy with it.
99.9% of the “I go FF” people here cant afford a FF system with lenses 🙂
Indeed, I bought *all* my FF gear (except one lens) second hand and all my 43-OBS gear new.
Again, except for one 50-200 SWD I bought last week so I could put it on this body. But it goes to show 🙂
Its a Frankenstein with a E-1 grip and a EM-5 pentaprism(I own both) – two good things coming together for one piece of ugly camera, haha, I hope that there is a level of refinement that goes from this prototype to the production version, but that is doubtful. I think the edgy em5″ prism” and the smooth e-1 grip is the two major elements which compete – the protrusion of the grip looks really strange(too pointed and thin), but if its based on usability, the “prism” needs to adapt more in the smooth form to the grip, but thats just my two cents as a designer.
But the new features seem really intriguing, and between this and the newly announced GX-7, recent mirrorless cameras offer a diverse range of performance, portability and (photography)lifestyle. To those who bemoan the em-1 approaching DSLRs, much of the m4/3 lineup is still composed of adequately compact and extremely capable cameras – the EM-1 is a very welcome addition in the professional end of the spectrum, although I personally wish the design was a little more refined.
They read but they cannot understand. (According to Steve Huff too) M4/3 HAS NOT LESS RESOLUTION THAN FF. It is simply a smaller format.
They read but they cannot understand: 16 Mpx IS THE MAXIMUM THE SYSTEM CAN TAKE AT THE MOMENT. Ir provides the best resolution and the maximum pixel sharpness.
Now you can leave the premises after cleaning, thank you 🙂
Like many have said, looks like a nice camera and I hope video capability is excellent. For me, I had a D4 and a D800 with some lenses but finally sold it all just because for me, I got tired of the big stuff. Obviously the full frame images had more of a pop to them but for most everything the raw images out of a GH3, G6 and E-P5 are terrific. I now have most of the Olympus M.Zuiko and Lumix M4/3 lenses and I enjoy seeing and trying these new M4/3 cameras as they are released. I’ve been using the new Lumix 20 mm 1.7 II on the E-P5 body and it is amazing. For me I like the smaller system. I’m looking forward to the E-M1 official release to see what the final specs are. Thanks everyone.
If Olympus has the ability to turn on PDAF for m43 lenses then that would really be a game changer, hybrid PDAF / CDAF. Focus on m43 is fast but it there was no hunting or readjustment and locks on like PDAF then this might be a machine to be reckoned with.
Then I might be willing to part with my money and get the ugly. This thing makes my E-330 look good. Yikes.
The funny things is that this camera looks great from the side. Just not when you’re in front.
In contrast to the professional EM-1 and the great EM-5, I wish that the “low-end” OM-D places itself as a more simpler stills-dedicated camera that keeps the minimum essentials like the dual control dials, EVF, 5axis, silent shutter but shedding some of the complex features or peripheral nice-to-haves such as articulating screen and art modes. While I love my EM-5, there is something alleviating with the bare-minimum simplicity in the OM-1, which I have yet to see in a digital camera(other than Leica, perhaps). This camera would be not the “pro-use”, but a “pro-enjoyable/hobbyist” camera, much like the Olympus XA was a vacation camera for many professionals back in the day.
This way, the PEN series can start with the fun stuff without the advanced features (like the current EPM), working up to a more advanced flagship model. The OMD-lineup would be the opposite in that the low-end model starts off with the bare but best essentials, but adds on more helpful features as it goes up the line.
Personal and futile wish, thanks for reading.
Whatever the EM-1 is: fugly, too expensive, fake, not FF, preproduction etc., with over 615 comments this cam has shaken the 4/3 and m4/3 community! Oly definitely has got something out there!
MFT is already making miracles in terms of IQ. I bet no one is going to distinguish a epm2 pic(400$)and a d5200 (800$) pic in good light. The real disappointment is that a lens such as the sigma 18-35 f1.8 is not available in this mount. That is the real game changer this year. Imagine that amazing 5axis IBIS with the next to be cheapo EM5… Boooom…
If those new cameras (GX7 and EM1) sell well, Sigma and other will have to reconsider their m43 strategy…
Fangirls, you are so easy to fool. This is not the real deal.
flipinus had it right. To all the P&S kiddos who have no clue, please read his post. As for the rest: bring it on Oly.
With the counter at 652, I expect that we’ve reached 1000 when I check back in in a few hours! What a leak.
I’m wondering what this thing looks like in a two tone balck & silver?
But I will probably end up with the all black because it’s a seamless look with the 43 lenses and any m43 black zooms I may consider in the future.
E-M1 rules.
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FOr the love of God i hope one of the idiots over at Olympus remembered to add tethering capability to this camera.. I mean if they expect it to be taken serious by every professional they need to have the capability to shoot tethered to a computer on the OM-D series.
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