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I just got a price in an Asian currency. Translated in Dollars and Euro the Panasonic GM1 with 12-32mm lens will cost around 600-700 Dollars/Euro. This is a very good price if you consider that the GM1 features the same GX7 sensor, has an LF1 size (smallest MFT camera ever), the 12-32mm is the highest quality standard zoom of all mirrorless systems and at the same time the smallest too. Oh forgot, and it’s a very well built camera!
The Gm1 with 12-32mm is the first mirrorless interchangeable camera with zoom lens that really fits in your pocket! The camera is made to compete against the high end compacts like the Sony RX100MII which do cost $50-150 more than the Gm1 kit.
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Hang on. Getting excited based on rumors?
I don’t know how the Admin know that “the 12-32mm is the highest quality standard zoom of all mirrorless systems”, since no test results are available yet. I think there are some very nice standard zooms out there. Besides, a zoom range of 12-32mm is not really so standard, more like sub-standard as it does not provide the portrait FL that is in all standard zooms.
Namely, I’m thinking it has to be pretty freaking good if it is to outdo the Fuji 18-55mm kit zoom.
More importantly, how much will it cost? I want one for my PL 1.
Price could be anywhere from $200 to $400. The later is what the PZ, the most expensive kit zoom model goes for. Hopefully it will be nearer the lower end of that, as the kit’s rumored cost is about the same as a G6 + kit 14-42mm.
$700!! Sheesh!
I think I will wait and see if it is really good according to the reviews, and then wait another 9 months even if it is good, so that it drops to around $500. Then, I will try to decide between it and the E-PL5, which is probably about the same price at that time.
Lol that should be the price for one EM1. M43 is killing themselfs with APSC prices. But it could be a interesting device if the price will drop 300 euro in a few months. I predict havy weather for m43 at these high prices.
If that kit does really compare with the RX100 sizewise than I don’t understand why one would consider it as expensive.
U troll, can even make predictions? Muahahahahaha u just made my day!
If you think that’s expensive, RX100 mk2 is more expensive!! and 1″ sensor.
It is definately expensive. But people will pay that price.
But 700 euros for an E-M1 is ridiculous. And it´s not going to be more realistic, when Viezevure repeats it every day.
That seems like a fair price compared to the €749 RX100MkII… I just hope it also has 50P video!
It’s Panasonic, so we can expect very good video specifications.
Poor build quality dressed up to appear nice.
Oly fanbois will always troll
…wait 2 months….4 hundred dolla……
“the 12-32mm is the highest quality standard zoom of all mirrorless systems”
Any word about how good actually this lens is?
Or should we consider it the “best kit lens” so far?
Any word about its price?
read lasts news, it’s metal build.
Admin, you told “Oh forgot, and it’s a very well built camera”. Mean you saw it?
no, they told me. No cheap plastic camera like a GF!
Ok thank you! Maybe i miss read in comments of lasts news about GM1 but does GM1 have an hotshoe?
No argue there.
Still, what i asked what about overall quality, not just build quality…
krhc, do you understand what a “rumor” is? Admin hasn’t seen the camera or lens, and certainly has had the opportunity to test it. He’s just reporting on what other people have told him.
I really don’t get the people who ask stupid questions that no one here could possibly answer yet.
krhc, do you understand what a rumor is? None of us have seen or tested this lens yet. How could we possibly answer your question?
Panasonic will show MFT graphs do prove it.
“highest quality standard zoom”? I don’t think so. “highest quality *kit* zoom” maybe, at the very best.
As a reminder, a “standard zoom” is a zoom with a focal length range around the “standard” focal range, i.e. from a little wider to a little closer than 40-50mm equivalent. Panasonic’s 12-35mm is a “standard zoom”, but probably not what you would consider a regular “kit zoom”…
Yet, it is sold as a kit zoom, no?
Even so, i dont care how it is described, i care about its quality!
There are various quality version of kit zooms…
If this one comes close to the quality and price of, lets say, 14-45mm lens, i will be very very happy and i will buy it asap.
If instead, its something like 14-42 PZ, i will pass…
It seems to be going to be sold as a kit zoom, yes. My comment was targetting the article’s phrase rather than yours – sorry if that wasn’t clear 🙂
Yes…14-45mm Panasonic is the one to match or beat.
This lens is not capable of contending with the specs. of the Oly 12-40mm Pro or the Panny 12-35mm…it is for a different audience.
Having images captured with this lens and camera, I have to say I’m thoroughly impressed by the sharpness of the lens. I didn’t expect a lot due to the size and price considerations, but it’s better than any standard kit lens out there aside from something like Canon’s 24-105mm L.
In fact, I wouldn’t leave it at “good for a kit zoom” – it’s just a good lens that happens to be a tiny kit lens.
I’m tempted. Highly.
My understanding was that they’re saying it was the best budget kit zoom for mirrorless in terms of build quality because it’s not plastic. It’s not going to be better optically. Not better than the Fuji zoom for example (or be suprised)or the Panasonic 14-42mm mkII. It’s likely to be autocorrected to the hilt I bet.
Its the end result that counts.
The previous rumor post was very clear that it is expected to be the best in optical quality, not build quality.
How can all you fools even think you know enough to spout such garbage as how good it is, or isn’t, optically? None of you have even seen a picture of the lens, much less handled it, taken a picture with it, or tested it, but you’ve already reached a conclusion about it’s performance?
What a joke you guys are!
You don’t know anything either, so it works both ways.
I swear, every new Pansonic announcement brings the Olympus defense force out in DROVES.
I hope this camera and lens is what it is. Just to shut you haters up.
Panasonic, PRICE. IS. KEY.
…quality secondary…so true!
Your paranoia is getting worse.
Do you look under the bed at night for Oly fan boys?
Are they trying to read your mind ?
Anytime anyone is mildly critical or questioning about a Panasonic product you start a tirade.
Sad really as sometimes you even have something useful to say but hey, who listens to the strange person in the corner
Nothing comes for free. What will see is:cut cut cut.
Curious how the video quality will be.
To me the big question is, did Panasonic go for the enthusiast/semi-pro who wants a small high quality camera or did they go for the Pet Mode 1, Pet Mode 2, Baby Modes crowd (yes, those modes are traditionally in the LX5/LX7 etc. !!!)
I hope they didn’t add a Baby playing with Pet-mode and a Baby Playing with Pet playing with other Pet modes….
– Ricardo
That camera better have a “crying baby” and a “full diaper” mode!
Seems like the camera I have been waiting for. Small yet good quality, and reasonable price. And it has the 12mm, which is perfect for landscape 🙂
Now I just need so sell my GX1 first.
Does anyone know it the camera will have ibis?
Real estate migt be an issue when fitting ibis. None of the large sensor compacts seem to have managed to be stabilised…
That is not true, they all habe OIS (even the XZ-2) and MX-1 has IS.
Are you sure those models have large sensors? last I checked they only had 1/1.7… :/
Okay, you were talking about those APS-C sized compacts. My bad. But the G1X from Canon which was essentially the 14MP crop of the 18MP APS-C sensor was stablized and the RX100s. 😉
Ep5 with this kit will remain good size overall.
The All-You-Can-Eat CA and distortion won’t be corrected on Olympus though.
Distortion will be corrected. CA won’t.
CA is a distortion too 😉
I always wanted m43 sensor, fixed prime 35mm, weather seald, 5-stabilization, good video specs, high quality build, and really compact.
Maybe Oly will deliver minus weather-sealing and good video specs.
@ Admin
Is there any information wehen the GM1 will be available/ wehn it will be shipped?
no.
Since VF is important to me, I hope for a hot shoe and accessory port so I can move the LVF2 from my LX7. In that case this could be a very tempting camera.
+1000!
If it could replace my GX1, then great!
If it has even a basic form off image stabilisation, it could be my first panny m43 cam. Could be an ideal tiny lightweight backup to the em1 with an small prime attached in a waist bag while the em1 takes care of zooms and bigger lenses. No doubt if that kit lens 80% as good optically as 12-35 or 12-40 than it will be a perfect high end portable and even pocketable cam but I doubt this 2ill be the case.
Will the 12-32 have image stabilization? There is no way a camera being sold as the smallest m43 body ever will have IBIS.
Admin, this series of rumours for the GM1 seems to me like a marketing campaign, sorry. I do not believe that couple of days before the announcement there are no leaked pictures! This is good for your site as it means that is is a factor in the M43 world, but is certainly annoying for me – all I want is fastest possible access to leaked info!
What I can I say…I really have no pic now! THere is no way I can proof you that. So trust me or do not trust me.
I trust you 🙂 May be I want to see the pic too much, but it is strange your sources have not sent you a pic yet…
You want to look a leaked pics so bad…look at the leaked pics of the Sony A7r! 🙂
Of course these “leaks” are a marketing campaign. It’s how smart companies operate in the internet age. It was the same for the EM-1, and the GX-7. The same trickle of information is happening for Sony’s new cams, too.
I think it’s a very respectable price, for a very interesting camera kit.
But I’m even more interested in the lens itself, any info if it will separately?
Es fehlt der 300€ Sucher ?
200€, falls man den LVF2 nutzen kann.
@Admin :
Why nothing about overture ???
Yes, how will GM1 opera start? 😉
Sorry couldn’t resist.
LOL!
@Cyril: NO offense. 😉
It’ll a Wagnerian masterpiece 😉
When you say highest quality of all standard zoom.. I think you meant only kit lenses right? No way this thing would be better than the 12-35 and the 12-40.
@ Admin:
Any info about image stabilization, in-lens or in-camera? That would be real nice, but considering the size of both I’m not very optimistic.
If they use the gx7 sensor i ecpect in-body stabilisation for gm1
Let’s hope for it! But the sensor itself has nothing to do with the IBIS, because it is only mounted on that platform. I cannot believe that a LF1 thin camera with exchangeable mount has an IBIS.
This kit looks very good at a fair price. Within m4/3rds it seems a better deal than a GX1 plus the old kit lens, or a EPM2 with kit lens. It competes with the RX100 on price and features. It would seem to be an excellent camera for street photography or for travel. Will see how it fits in my m4/3rds lens and body purchase priority list, but I will almost certainly buy one if not immediately then relatively soon.
So, any news on the GM2 and whether or not it addressed the problems of the GM1 yet?
LOL
Yes, the GM2 will have an EVF.
what is the excitement? in a few weeks, we know that Oly is much better!
was in the GH3, in GX7 and will not be different in the GM1 😀
Still no picture? All these discussions are moot with a photo of the supposedly smallest m43 camera.
That lens better be fast. It needs at least f:2.5 to equal the light-gathering capacity of RX-100 (f:1.8).
That’s not a realistic expectation. “Smallest” and “fastest” don’t go together with zoom lenses.
Lets wait for the test results for optical quality. We’ve heard Panasonic claim that a kit zoom was great before (the 14-42 x) and it turned out not to be. From the August 19, 2011 43rumors post about the 14-42 x – ” I have been told the new lenses are an “optical revolution” because they are incredibly compact, do have a high optical quality, powerzoom and inner focusing”.
NO company is going to tout “mediocre optics” in any new lens’ press release, that’s for DAMN sure!
“Released today, yet another iteration of a run-of-the-mill, slow aperture, limited range kit zoom. Pre-order yours TODAY! Be the first on your block to return it!” Somehow, I don’t think so… 😉
Which is it 600-700 USD or Euros? It can’t be both!
@Tom
It’s 600-700 USD, which translates to 700-800 Euros 😉 😀 🙁