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Tomorrow (Monday May 18) at 12.00-13.00 London time Panasonic will announce the G7. Follow the live blogging here on 43rumors! And here are the first images of the very sexy Silver Pansonic G7 camera!
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100% pure Lumix G plastic, but now in two colors!
Yeeah! The buttons indeed are all of plastic.
to keep costs down perhaps?!
Thank you for your input… Very clever…
Not everybody is a pro-photographer who wants to lug a tank around. Robust plastic is fine by me if it means it’s cheaper.
right…modern plastics over an aluminum frame have proven to be very durable.
Wrong. 100% pure silver…
OMG It’s incredibly beautiful.
Hope there’ll be a body only version as well.
As far as I can recall, G1, GH1 and EP1 are the only models that weren’t sold body only.
Odds are on your side 😉
I think you’ll find it difficult to buy a GF7 body only, because this series is the epitome of “batteries included” point-and-shoot upgraders. GM on the other hand, is also a nice second camera, so it’s sold body only. And I expect the G7 to be sold body only too.
Nope. Not sure about G5/G6, but I remember very well that there weren’t body only bundles of G3 other than black ones, all red, brown and white bundles were with kit lens.
It should have .
Maybe take some time , after the first batch of shipment .
oh wow <3
Well hello there 😉
Only reservation with the silver (smokey grey more like) is that it looks to have a different finish to the black. With the GH2 the silver felt cheap and rather nasty compared to the black and it’s speckled finish. They were both plastic obviously but the silver was just naff.
Looks like the gh2. I had the silver version and it always bothered me that the leatherette finish was only over the grip. At least here it spans the whole front side.
Wow its titanium without the premium price! Way to go Pana!!!
Like the general design, the silver look doesn’t really appeal to me. It’s not ugly, but it lacks the coherence of the G6.
Then Black is for you ,
as long you don’t mind having more cameras with the same sensors .
I was only making a statement about the looks, not if I’d buy it, which I won’t.
Really want the silver one! 😛
I don’t like how the hump looks in the perspective view. Looks unbalanced and unmatching the rest of the lines.
It looks like a cheap imitation of the E-M1. Not quite as ugly as previous G series models, but lacking in fine touches nonetheless. It’s a matter of taste, I suppose.
It resembles previous G models much more than it does the E-M1. Having more hard lines and edges does not make it a E-M1 copycat. It still has that signature G overall shape, which is very ergonomic and functional in comparison to that of any Oly offering.
E-M1 was an expensive imitation of the earlier G/GH cameras. 🙂
True. It took so long for Oly to learn to copy the implementation of swivel LCDs , viewfinders, fast auto-focus and built-in flashes from Panasonic. I didn’t know it could be that hard. Well, I guess technological gaps couldn’t just be narrowed overnight.
mic headphone jack?
would be surprised if it had one – as it is a entry level model – I guess they reckon that entry level users are not going to go out to buy expensive lav. mics or costly good mic for hot-shoe which is a good point – more serious video users who are opt to want better audio also will want more serious video machine like the GH4 – I have had the Em5 for awhile and never plugged in the mic in – I am a more of a stills shooter then video – I have considered getting a Lav system – but they are not cheap – I do have a mic on my Sony gear – and yes it is better then the built in of course but going Lav is of course the very best option as even with the hot-shoe mic it is still not that great –
Have you not seen the ad with the shotgun mic in the hotshoe?
It does have one. Has external mic accessory.
Looks like the bastard child of EM1 and XT1, without either of the svelte lines the parents have.
the great thing about the G series is they are nice and light in weight
so I can deal with the black plastic,
metallic finish on plastic is just nasty in my opinion
but this titanium look is kind of in with the east asian crowd at the moment
so I guess panasonic are just following the fashion
The silver makes it look clunky for some reason. I guess I really don’t like those big grips, not everyone is a sports photographer, it ruins the lines.
Gods forbid that anyone choose a camera based on function rather than the look of the lines.
Wow, that’s good looking.
haha riding coatails of oly
More like Oly saw this was coming and jumped the EM5 color change to match it
Very Unlikely. Oly has been there, done that. OM-3 Ti.
As literally every other camera company on this planet, since EVER.
It’s nothing new. The G6 had a titanium version also.
Looks like they skipped silver and went right to titanium!
hey actually nice silver trim on the flippy
for an entry level camera given the price is not much higher then $500 body only then this is a good choice for many –
I think it looks fine – it has the Tilt LCD which is fantastic – for viewing angeles and LCD protection when stored – it has several Fn buttons – nice grip – nice EVF – nice control wheels – seems rugged – has 4k – fast shutter – new processing engine –
My fear – it will not have Touch LCD – No Mic in – No IBIS – I think I am 100% right on these things –
the GX8 will have to do better as it for sure will cost more – so it might retain Touch LCD – but I suspect with 4k now they will not have the 3 axis IBIS anymore which is also a crying Shame –
and GX8 will not have Mic In either –
Seems the manufacturers who know their video is not so good are more opt to add Mic In 🙂
So the Olympus OMD-em5 m2 will be a decent video option shooter in M43 as it has Mic in but of course the GH4 remains the very best M43 video shooter –
There is no Touch LCD in the FZ1000 and LX100 – seems to be a trend now with Panasonic to take out the Touch LCD –
I say include Touch LCD – most all own a smart phone and prefer a Touch LCD – which can be turned off very easily with a Menu Option for the Purists that hate Touch LCD and AF 🙂
I do see a dilemma with M43 from Panasonic and Olympus and that is they seem to be stuck in sensor technology – now always the same sensors – I guess not just M43 – but at least Samsung for instance picked up on the Sony tech to backlit sensor design giving better low light performance –
I am not sure why neither Panasonic or Olympus have not done that – unless Panasonic is holding out till their Organic sensor – but it will not be ready for another few years –
I think the new G7 is a nice improvement looks wise over older G6
One less factor which may induce a sleepless night:
From the ad: “tilt/swivel touch display”
Ok – awesome – I had not seen the ad
The DMW M52 shotgun mic is shown as an accessory, wouldn’t it need a line in to work.
You are right – I just have not seen any ads – can you post the link for ads – would love to see them
Check the front page of 43rumors, currently the 2nd article from the top.
“My fear – it will not have Touch LCD – No Mic in – No IBIS – I think I am 100% right on these things”
Your fear has no fundamental substance, in the previous pictures G7 was shown with a Panasonic mic. Touch screen will definitely be present too.
Hope I am wrong – the LX100 has no Mic in and no Touch LCD – the FZ1000 no Touch – so it seemed to be a trend going on – but I absolutely hope you are right
LX 100 and FZ 1000 are other tip of cameras. G6 had both touch screen and video mic in, it’s quite impossible for G7 to lack those features!
My point exactly
If you look at every G-series camera from the G2 to this one, you’ll see that the touch-screens always a feature. Of course I can’t be certain about the mic in, but I reckon they will have added more features, rather than taken them away, esp. since they’re adding 4K.
Actually, I think it’s thee, the previous post shows the camera with a hotshoe mic so I’m very sure now.
Just look at the previous rumor and the information on or advertisement for the G8 states that the LCD is touch
100% hard porn show-off !
Cheap copy of Fuji XT-1 I’d say. And it’s butt-ugly as hell…. typical Panasonic.
Would be nice if they offered it in a kit with the 12-35mm.
Mix of EM1 and XT1
ACTUALLY, it plays off the G2 more than anything, with the sleek Ness of the G6.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/PanasonicDMCG2
And last I checked, Panasonic was first in m43 with the dial around the shutter with the GX7.
I like the way you specify m43 so that Olympus gets no credit for putting the shutter speed ring around the lens mount back in the 70s.
OH, I’m sorry. I didn’t know that was a Shutter Speed ring there… Lemme guess, Olympus invented the WHEEL as well?
What does a film Camera have to do with this camera again?
‘dial around the shutter’ – what has that got to do with shutter dial around the mount? And I have many much older cameras that the shutter speed was controlled around the lens mount, long before Olympus did it in the 70’s.
good point 🙂 the nice grip of the Em1 and EVF front looks of Xt1 – in my mind a pretty decent and practical design – and looks better then the G6 –
Black was nicer. This looks cheap. IMHO.
It looks cheap on the Olympus too.
If it’s not Real titanium, why bother?
Fake titanium is the new camera fad.
Cheap is very fitting. I assume the real thing will look better than these renderings though.
Is this the same sensor as the GH4? Or have they improved the noise at high ISO?
It’s a 16mp four thirds sensor. New or not, you will get similar noise results. And that’s with any M43 camera.
Sorry, I meant for video.
Likely but definitely will not outperform GH4’s sensor .
Otherwise who will buy GH4 ?
DFD , 4K & Top Sensor all available in G7 .
black is much better looking
This time I agree with you .
But only this time !
I am so proud of myself.
Look at that tiny sensor…….LOL
Have you been bullied in mid-school? Or are you a mid-school bully?
The best you can come up with, is the same insult girls use about your d!ck?
Here it is… Mundstrøm the troll hunter….
You are as much a moron as the OP… Except that you are probably older….
yaaawwn… come on… try harder
God… You are fully retarded…
Oh hey, I remember that one from school 🙂 What are you? 8? Cause then I can’t keep verbally slapping you, it just wouldn’t be right if I make you cry.
Please keep going on…. It’s amusing…
Your ability to embarrass yourself knows no bounds…
Look at this huge idiot……LOL
But it can deliver big pictures .
Think about it .
I love the look – I even like it better than the Oly em-5 II.
Then sell the EM5 2 & get this one .
What is the problem ?
Where was a problem implied?
He’s a problem solver, he likes problems, so he sees problems everywhere… And above all he likes to talk, so he loses every opportunity to shut up…
Yun, you don’t have to reply to every comment!
Yes he does. He can do whatever he wants.
Yes, he can, but that doesn’t mean he has to. Especially if he’s not adding to the discussion.
LOL you sound very defensive and insecure. it was just a comment mate. relax.
Silver? More like Titanium. And good thing they didn’t go with silver, it would look sily on non-retro inspired body.
And this one is definitely the best looker among the DSLR-like form-factor ILCs. Panasonic’s design team does a very good job of late.
I like the look of this. It isn’t exactly “classic” looking, but appears less plastic than previous models and seems to be packing some great features: 4K, DFD, etc.
But I hope the GX gets some love soon. I much prefer the rangefinder style body, but would love 4K, DFD, weather sealing, etc.
You should mention new sensor for GX8 as well .
I agree. And organic sensor would be far and away the most exciting innovation for me as well! I wonder if it will come first in a GH model or the GX
Pana need to keep in mind .
Small camera with big sensor & not
Big camera with small sensor .
Clearly, you’ve never held a G6 because it really is a small camera. The photos here have no sense of scale so it looks like any other SLR.
Troll. And a boringly unimaginative and tedious one at that.
FREAKIN AWESOME DEFINITELY BUYING THIS
Buy one for me too… Thank you.
I’m waiting to see what the GX8 offers.
Yeah. This makes a good budget video cam, and a nice option for 4K Photo mode, but for stills I want a GX8 with IBIS.
I’m getting this too to replace my GH1. I’ll probably wait for GX8 as an upgrade to my trusty GX1. As for my GF2, I have yet to decide between the GM1 and GF7. It’s really nice to have so many choices from Panasonic because I wouldn’t feel that I’m buying the same camera over and over again. I tried my friend’s EP-5 the other day. The so-called premium model felt cheap and flimsy and its small grip certainly didn’t feel as comfortable as the generous one on my GX1. Its autofocus didn’t feel as fast as well. I guess I wouldn’t subject myself to using a model like that again.
Agree, this is looking to be an excellent contender to be the replacement for my father’s GH1 (unless I can snaffle a GH3 at bargain-basement prices somewhere!)
However, I do happily use an E-P5. In my opinion, using the same lens, the Panasonics do seem to focus a little faster than the Olympus. the mode-dial of my E-P5 did fall off; fortunately, I found the dail and glued it back on. Nevertheless, I still think the E-P5 is an great portable camera with, for me, excellent image quality.
Nice camera. Lens in pic, very mediocre. Shouldn’t it be better than the crap, kit-lens message the APS-C crowd continues to send? How about an aperture like f3.1 to f4.0? Everybody has f3.5 to f5.6 already! Very boring. And like everyone, the sexy “titanium” color looks very nice.
Nope, this is actually an excellent kit lens, comparable to original 14–45. You may confuse it with the first issue of 14–42 (bundled with G2…G5).
No confusion. My point was, the aperture does not do anything to make you think twice. Same as everyone else. Reverse is often true: The Nikon kit lens was embarrassing because it had a poor aperture AND nothing to say about sharpness. The whole “kit” lens thing is a sales department gimmick, and the four-thirds participants should raise themselves above the fray.
3.5 – 5.6 3x zooms are usually matched with “consumer” cameras like the G7, and I don’t find anything wrong with this, but I think that the GX8 should have a better kit lens. Something like a 12-60 2.8 – 3.5, heh.
They are kit lens for a reason. The average consumer isn’t gong to want a faster lens or a better zoom range. Why bother manufacturing something more expensive if the end consumer isn’t going to make use of it and it costs more? Just buy the body only option and get a lens that suits your needs because everyone is different.
Consumers shoot pictures on phones. Seems like the only people left to buy interchangeable lens cameras are enthusiasts who don’t appreciate being kitted out with warmed over slack-age.
The lens is optically very good, it’s reasonably priced, operation is smooth, and it covers a useful focal length range. Just because you want something different doesn’t make this “crap”. Suck it up, buy the lens you really want, and quit whinging that you’re not getting a free pro lens with your cut-price camera.
I agree, even a semi-enthusiast constant f4 kit lens with a bit more range is something quite sorely missing from m43’s. A 12-60mm f4 would be great to see.
Bzzzzzz. Wrong. The kit lens is not crap. Try again so we’ll know for sure you’re a troll.
– Old 2012 Sony 16MP sensor
– No IBIS
– low DR
– mediocre IQ
– Noisy 4K videos
– poor AF-C performance
– poor battery life
– terrible JPEG processing
– No “Constant Preview”
This admin……….everything thats posted here with some criticism against M43 gets pronto deleted. Reminds me of some really really bad times. Admin are you afraid of the truth…..?
I like the silver version better than the black one!
If you are a girl as it seems, you would like the gold version even more!
LOL
Another OM-3 Ti inspired camera colouring.
Point of clarification; The Admin created this site and provides content. The Mod (me) moderates the comments section. Two different people. If you don’t like the
moderation, I suggest that you contact the Admin via the link above and plead
your case. Don’t forget to link to your deleted
comments.
That being said, if you’re complaint is that ‘everything’ critical of M43 gets deleted, you’re obviously not paying very close attention. I suggest you read the comments more closely.
If you equate your single-line repetitive sensor-obsessive posts as some kind of reasoned observation, conversation or criticism… that may be where you could use some introspection.
Unfortunately the name you chose makes it clear that you’re not interested in any kind of intelligent conversation.
Perhaps you feel persecuted by the medium and full frame fans. I’m sorry if that’s true but please take your sensor frustrations and insecurities elsewhere. I’m dedicated to keeping this site troll-free.
Perhaps the Nikon 1 and Pentax Q sites would welcome your ‘truth’.
Hahahahaah. That was an awesome response. Well done. I , for one, really appreciate how hard you work to keep the trolls at bay. Thanks.
+1, and I’m sure many others, Mod. Keep up the good work in maintaining a fun, informative and civil site!
Using long words won’t make you look smarter. The smaller the sensor, the longer the words.
Length of words or sentences has nothing to do with intelligence just as there is no correlation between sensor size and word length. But there is a connection between stupidity and the frequency one changes its id to post as a troll. This doesn’t look good for whatever brands they brag about either, despite the sensor size.
Copying a registered user’s name makes you look desperate.
Sorry to use so many three syllable words there.
REKT
While admins and mods of privately run websites are, that’s how things are in most parts of the world, in their full right to moderate and delete discussion content as much as they like and while the current poster’s complaint may indeed seem unjustified because it may indeed just have been stupid trolling, I do have already witnessed cases of deletions simply because they contained criticism, however valid. I do consider that not ok, not in the interest of this site and of course not in the interest of free speech, as much as I know that privately run websites are not bound to give people free speech.
By the way, it seems the mod is significantly better versed in the English language than the admin. How about giving the admin a bit of a hand in wording his texts and headlines, short as they usually are?
“I do have already witnessed cases of deletions simply because they contained criticism, however valid.”
Me too. Also it appears that the Mod defends some specific users….
Mod policy in deleting comments is not clear…
Please see my comment above regarding ‘valid criticism’.
I’m not aware that I’ve defended any users, so any examples you can provide are welcome.
It’s a fair comment regarding policy. Here’s a list of considerations that I use;
Is the comment…
– Related to the topic?
– Related to M43?
– Related to photography?
– Related to life on Earth?
– Obscene or vulgar?
– Name calling?
– A personal attack?
– Repetitive?
– In understandable English?
– Posted using a screen name of a registered user?
– Posted under multiple names in a single post?
– An advertisement or obscene?
Does the user consistently…
– Use multiple names in an attempt to deceive or gain credibility?
– Use posts as a springboard for unrelated topics?
– Create posts that are argumentative or combative?
– Cherry pick facts?
– Ignore attempts at conversation / legitimate debate?
– Repost the same information regardless of context?
– Shill for other manufacturers or systems?
On first look, that seems like a thorough and well-thought-out set of guidelines, but on a second thought some of those items are quite subjective, depending on intepretation, as well as on the point of view and the ideological bias of the one who is to judge. Actually, if I tried hard enough, I think I would find in it at least one potential reason for deletion of each one of the vast majority of posts here 😉
Context and intent has an impact on most of the items on that list.
That’s why they’re guidelines, not hard and fast rules.
The Admin retains sole control of the content, so I cannot edit the headlines. Sorry.
As for deletions ‘just because they contained criticism however valid’, I’d be happy to address any examples you can provide.
Quite difficult to provide examples of posts that suddenly disappear after it was by pure chance that I did see them just the minute before. In one case it might have been more straightforward since it was my own post, but with enough experience in web forums of all sorts I didn’t see a point in bothering to complain. But seeing your openness in the matter, I might contact you if I should happen to stumble upon something again.
I welcome thoughful feedback.
After you have used a camera with 5-Axis…there is no going back.
Nice looking camera though.
Same could be said of 4k…
No it couldn’t, as you don’t get any benefits other than to do transitions in post production. You don’t get better footage with 4k (and no, you can’t stabilize shaky 4k to look good!)
Yes, it could. You can’t pull 8MP stills from 1080p. 4K Photo mode on a tripod is the main reason I’d want this cam.
“You don’t get better footage with 4k”
Sorry, WHAT?
I do see a significant difference between 4K output and 1080p… you don’t?
In your opinion you also don’t get better footage with 1080p compared with 720p?
The fact that at present the G8 has 75% liking the design on this forum as opposed to only 9% not liking it is an indication that Pany has hit a home run with this model at least on this form
Uh, you’re getting ahead of yourself. This is a G7, not G8. Maybe you’re lusting after a GX8 as well?
Everything Fuji produces is a ‘cheap copy’ of the Panasonic L1 and LC1.
Can’t be more true.
Now you want to play the victim?
This is no silver, it’s similar to the graphite finish of Fuji XT1 that sells for a premium.
Yes, I personally like this colour – I would call it more titanium like – better than the nowadays ubiquitary silver.
The question is, how scratch-resistant it will be?
I normally take well care of my equipment but I would hate it if a small scratch would show the black plastic beneath it. Then the black version would be better.
For a system that you dismiss as inferior….you sure pay a lot of attention to it.
No 5-axis IBIS no buy. Next.
Yeah, well, nobody else makes a camera that combines 4K and IBIS, either. There’s probably a technical obstacle. I’d use this primarily in 4K Photo mode on a tripod with a long lens to record a speaker at a podium while I’m shooting stills with my other cameras and pull 4K stills later, so I’m perfectly happy to give up IBIS on this one. OTOH, I would NOT give up IBIS for 4K on a GX8, as that will be my primary stills camera.
The hard edges give it a masculine look. I think it’s handsome, but I think the G6 is handsome, too. I worry that the rear dial is too high to easily reach with my thumb, and what looks like a button in the middle of it is completely inaccessible to my thumb without lowering the camera. The old press-to-switch dial design was better, especially on the GH. Also, the left dial is less readily accessible than the bottom button on the 4-way pad. And, the Display button looks like it’ll still get hit by accident – major frustration.
I really wonder why almost everyone placing lens release button on the opposite side of grip, it makes changing lenses that much more difficult. Would be so much better if i could hold safely camera body with one hand AND press lens release at the same time.
It is a standard and for a reason, next time don’t swap lens but swap body andnyou understand why. You can handle two lenses and one body when it is on as it is, making less swap easy and very fast and secure.
This doesn’t make any sense at all, doesn’t change the fact that when you press button, you can’t hold securely the body too. Especially with smaller m43 bodies. Especially outside i prefer to keep my camera body pointing down with lens mount. Lens release button from grip side would make much more sense.
I agree. I find it easier with the release near the grip. My workaround is to grab the lens from the front with my left hand and press the release button with the tip of my left thumb, then twist.
I notice a rather wide flange on the lens mount interface, way wider than the most lenses’ base. Is that for possible future lenses (low f stop) that will have wider bodies? a bit like the new Oly f2.8 “pro” zooms?
No and you’re an idiot.
Not as much as you…
Flange distance is between sensor and bayonet, there is no such thing as “flange width”. You are talking about bayonet = metal/plastic plates that mounts lenses to camera. And it is just a style to make it look wider.
yes, I was observing the wider “frame” around the bayonet mount which from pix appears plastic (?). I notice that the interface of some Panasonic lenses on my Oly bodies have a bit of “overlap”. Pana lenses being often wider (bigger barrel coz of stabilizer in lens) end up being not perfectly aesthetically matched to the smaller bayonet base on the body. Also Oly pro lenses seems to taper in at the base. Maybe this wider “flange” will compensate for wider barrelled lens bodies?
It looks like too much EM1 from front and top
Please, tell us more about “the truth”…
In your opinion the truth is that iPhones deliver better image quality than m43 cameras?
You know that it sounds bloody ridiculous….
Honestly, it looks pretty ugly to me. It’s like a mixup of the EM1 and maybe a touch of the Sony a7. It looks like they tried to force some retro cues into their typically modern design aesthetic. Not a fan.
Cheaper look = less chance gear to be stolen! Profit!