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Finally that small image leak madness is over. This is the first full size picture of the upcoming new Olympus E-M5! As you see there is an external battery grip attached. It has an [shoplink 28231 ebay]OM-4T[/shoplink] like design. And here is the picture of the back (Click on it to enlarge):
This picture have been found at Amazon Japan (Click here). There is even a picture of a person with the new camera (Click here) on a polish forum!
Design opinion: As I told you yesterday the back of the camera looks a bit clunky. At the same time it looks very solid and “DSLR professional” alike. It’s a complete different approach than a Fuji X PRO 1 rangefinder design. The question now is:
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747 Responses
Wow – even with the grip it looks great. And I’m anything but fond of retro design. But fortunately, it doresn’t look too retro.
But I’m still asking myself what may be hidden in the hump and what a kind of viewfinder we will get. The round part in the square frame is a kind of amazing. There must be a reason for it…?
It is really looking great & the grip is as I’ve been wishing for. I’m sure they didn’t do it just because I was suggesting it here, but boy, am I pleased with what I’m seeing here now.
intriguing design, looks stunning and very practical for video, the articulated lcd is huge and the two grip add ons make total sense
You know what’s the best thing that grip means? SD card slot is most likely on the sides, not bottom.
or in the hump! 😉
stunning looking camera, huge articulated lcd, evf, add on grips, very appealing and should be great for video too
Hump looks like it houses the mic, judging by the slit in the side which was blurred out in a previous pic
what a hump…
next…
looks like 2 function buttons on grip,it will be interesting to see full specs of the camera and the “goodies” announced at the same time.
Amazon.jp has it available from 30th March 😀
My hump, my hump, my oly oly hump!
My hump, my hump, my oly oly hump!
Really hot!
Thanks admin 🙂
I see two grip, first the only vertical grip and second the battery grip…true?
Yes, there is clearly a detachable battery grip attached.
true
Great! That vertical grip is what I’ve been waiting for.
@ Admin (and others): Here is an image of it without the grip(s) 🙂
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/moviemonster6/back-no-grip.jpg
/// double post, my bad.
love it!!!
It looks enormous, even without the grip. I’d like to see how it compares to an APS-C Canon or Nikon, but looks like it goes against what I’m looking for in MFT.
Interest killed.
It’s not big at all. Take a look at the Polish forum pic of the guy holding it.
Yes, you are right!
Interest resurrected?
But have not grip on this image.
you expect a mirrorless camera to be micro format with a battery grip attached?
No, preferably not.
I guess that will work. I wonder how large it is?
If you click the link to the photo of someone with the camera; it doesn’t look that large at all. M43 size for those that want it, and those who have big hands can get the battery grip.
Yes. it’s relatively compact!
looks huge 🙁 Just another big camera… This is MICRO four thirds?
Try PAYING attention instead of drawing it.
lol
I’ll take that without the grip, thank you.
Choices are good though for those who need or want, i.e. if that’s what’s needed to drive my 12-60. Otherwise thanks to Olympus for providing me finally with the body I want (more or less).
Cheers
Edit: NOW I get it: This is a modular grip. The handgrip + the vertical grip with the shutter button. Intriguing …
If the handgrip (without the vertical grip) already means extra battery power, I think I can deal with that.
It looks so E5 replacement~ though many people here won’t agree… still think there’s a flash under the hump.
Mmmm… there is a split line below the Oly name on the hump.. wonder if the entire hump pops up to reveal a flash…?
Still thinking it is a Transformer bot? 😀
I bet those little triangular piece under the accessory port on both sides are where you can squeeze up the flash… maybe to avoid the confusion of having so many buttons…
Agree, it does look like a mini E-5 at this angle, the hump especially, however, this new camera looks better.
I like what I see so far, can’t wait for a test drive.
Super design. Looks like this will be bridge between the PEN and the E-5. Or is it a successor of it?
Hope I can use my Pro 50mm, 12-60mm and 50-200mm without any drawbacks…
Jaw dropping gorgeous! This is how a proper camera looks! Well done Olympus!
It’s a small beast. The design appears rather post-retro.
Still deceptive. The grip is ENORMOUS. The camera isn’t big without it. I’ve seen the 12-50 in the flesh and it’s much smaller than I had imagined.
Exciting times.
It actually looks perfect & it is an option only. I certainly would love to have this one with grip knowing it can also come off.
+1
Admin, any news on the MMF-3 adapter?
no sorry
Intrigued by that viewfinder… What are those two dots to the side for, and why the curved bit above them?
Looks like proximity sensor.
The old Olympus Camedia used to have two similar dots besides the viewfinder, indicating over- or underexposure.
I think it is a sensor for autoswitch from LCD to EVF, when you put camera to your eye. It may be covered by curvy weathersealing.
But how do we select the focus point if we use EVF all the times?
I think one is a focus light which light up (green) when it is on focus. The other one may by flash ready (yellow) light to let you know the flash is ready even when you are looking at the EVF. Just like the old days.
OMG this is a bigass..
I’m more convinced that the hotshoe part is detachable, leaving the Olympus name on the body.
I like the style, but I don’t like the hotshoe on top…..
Would you like the hotshoe on the bottom, or side instead?
Haha, nice joke. Bue it looks like someone put it there with glue…
Looks awesome! 🙂
Wow!!! LOVE IT!!! Can’t hardly wait to see user review on this gorgeous!!
I don’t like the On/Off button. Not useful with gloves. 🙁
Wouldn’t the on off button make more sense the other way round? What if your fingers slip downwards – and bam your turned your camera off
I like it on the E-620 where it is on the back part of the selector. And I didn’t liked it on the E-510 where it is on the right part of the selector, on the top part of the body. You can’t switch it with big fingers.
Turn it back on?
hey don’t you see that? that photo is shopped…. just look at the perspective of the lens.
Looks like the lens is photoshopped on? and yeah, that hump is looking pretty tall.
Yes, the lens IS photoshoped.. not a good job indeed…
I find the hump excessive considering that there is no pentaprism, but otherwise I like it a lot
Yes that hump looks ridiculous. I would have been OK with it if it wasn’t so large in proportion to the rest of the body.
The Mother of All Humps?
It sure looks big and a bit out of scale, but it’s distinctive!
Wow, suddenly a camera “hump” has become acceptable? Think back on all the pissing and moaning about the GH2’s multi-function EVF housing, but now that Olympus has one on M4/3 camera it’s somehow fabulous. How times do change.
Decidedly not fabulous.
It depends on what’s going on with it, and what the rest of the camera looks like.
The problem I’ve always had with the G and GH cameras from an aesthetic viewpoint has been the fakeness of them: the fake hump, the fake grip, the overall look of being Canons that were dried at the wrong temperature and shrank. All neither here nor there, as the cameras lacked features I want, and I lacked funds to purchase ;-).
I still don’t know how I feel about the looks of this camera, in terms of looks, as a photo can’t convey the hand feel of the device.
I’ve checked both G and GH-models and neither the hump nor the grip is fake.
I’m personally not okay with the hump, particularly considering that the EVF is actually located LOWER than the hump, so it’s safe to assume that Oly is capable of doing a flush or even slightly elevated top plate and built in an evf in there. You can easily see what a compact evf equipped PEN could look like if you cover the hump and leave the EVF in place, it’s not much more volume.
If the view finder is under the hotshoe, then the accessory port (behind the rubber cover) has to go there as well & that’s part of the design proportions you are seeing.
WTF? I’m not a m4/3 Friend but thats a brilliant design! Which might me getting into that System!
B
Well, the back side looks considerably more usable once you remove that gigantic grip… http://imgur.com/ayBwY
m4/3 is all about size…this seems bigger than ep3. I hope it isn’t
First thought was that it looked massive but the pic with the guy holding it makes it look small without the grips, which will be good for seeming casual or touristy, then you can put the grips on for when you want to look professional.
There is a weird cut out piece on the viewfinder eyepiece that looks really weird. And I still think that hump is bigger than it needs to be.
it looks like it does not have build in flash, or even came with separate attachment flash.
Why do you keep calling it E-M5 when it says OM-D on it? What does OM-D mean if it’s not the camera name?
OM-D is a new line/series. This is not a PEN. Model name is E-M5 which is on the top plate next to the Mode dial.
This is gorgeous!!! I want one already. 🙂
It looks gorgeous with an understated design.
For those who complain about size, ALL the other models od m4/3 are smaller, and some even mini, so it’s time to have a professional model with a respectable size.
Who thought they could make a clunky m43???
That thing wouldn’t fit in Yao Ming’s pocket! 😡
Then Yao Ming needs bigger pockets.. 😉
How about Captain Kangaroo?
It looks “less vintage” from what I was expecting. But already a camera grip with it? Olympus is playing hard and well!
I bet the silver one will make it retro enough, if that’s what you want.
I know Id go for silver.
FINALLY, FINALLY!!! The proper ultralight outdoor camera!
+1000!
Actually looks that even the vertical grip is an external accessory attached to the base of the camera.
Doesn’t look like there’s much news on the menu front, judging by the buttons. Hopefully there is lots of opportunity to customise the function buttons and that big dial on top.
I’m finding the design pretty fussy, especially around the hump and hotshoe.
Actually I think this is not the real deal. I wouldn’t call it fake either, details are mostly right. But if you look closer, the rendering (cause thats what it is most probably) of the lighting is different on lens and body. So both seem to be coupled via photoshop. Also the perspective of lens and body are not right, making it look a bit awkward.
My take on this: Pic comes right from Oly Guys, but to give people no hint about the sensor a picture or rendering of the body alone with an open mount(revealing any details about the “revolutionary” sensor) was stitched with an rendering of the upcoming lens, thus hiding the sensor area and giving a good look on the cam as a whole.
oh and I really like the body, seems to be about the size of the ep3 which works fine. Definitly tempts me even more to buy it
Huh?
How can you know anything about menu design and navigation by looking at the buttons?!
LOL
well I was never really that interested in oly but I must say WOW.. the only thing that disturbs me a little bit is hotshoe and small viewfinder but after big disappointment from panasonic if the video will be 1080/50p with better quality than stock gh2 or simmilar to hacked gh2 I will really hardly consider buying this little fellow over the gh2.. with battery grip it looks that it will nicely fit in your hands.. (I have the GH1 and I would prefer some kind of light battery grip because I don´t hold it with my all fingers..it´s a little bit small hehe) so oly… I´m giving you a chance.. better video..better iso performaance .. the 5axis stabilization is something interesting.. I´m crossing fingers .. in april i will buy you or the gh2!
one question.. will it have tilting screen? like panasonic or the ep-3?
and admin.. thank you
Yes, the screen is tiltable but no swiveling though.
thanks 🙁
bit humpy? well… yes. but how do you fit such a big screen in such a little camera without moving up a central vf?
anyway, so what. what looks ugly at first sight might become a beauty in the future. let’s wait and see.
although i still like the looks of my old e510 better, if this thing gives a nice iq, video, vf, big screen…
then i’m so in! (when price drops al little, of course)
is is a touchscreen btw?
With a silver E-P2 + VF-3 sitting next to me, man! It IS tiny without grip! I’m gonna save these image as my phone wall paper until I actually hold one on my hand!!
It looks like the (proper) hand grip and the battery grip are two separate accessories. Nice!
it would be very practical if thats true!
While I understand that the huge hump is to make it stay true to the original OM cameras, I find it extremely intrusive and I’m secretly hoping it is detachable. Don’t get me wrong – I love everything about this camera already.
Would be aweseome if you could detach it. But that wouldn’t go very well with weather sealing would it?
One reason I assume the hump is detachable is that the switch button (EVF and LCD) is on the finder side not on the body side like any other EVF cameras.
Drop dead ugly.
LoL Troll
I like it, though it looks more like a cross between an OM 2000 and an OM4… Now will they bring out all those lenses in black???? Also perhaps some of their fast 4/3 lenses converted to M4/3/ This camera needs pro glass!
Black lenses, hell yeah!
black is beautiful!
i don’t like what i see. There is something “form not follows function” about the most caracteristic designfeature of the camera: the vf is much lower then the hump on the front. Without the batterygrip i am sure the hump is unbalanced high to the body. The upperplate hasn’t got the horizontal profile, which make the unbalanced look even worse.
Just an opinion ofcourse.
So, with both grips it’s roughly the size of an E-4xx, right?
Please please please do 60fps video. If you do, then my GH2 will gather dust and I will have to buy you !!!
nice looking… except the hump detracts quite bit I think. Let’hope there is true functionality in it. Probably because of the flash. Frankly a flash on the left side to replace a control knob would be more practical. I am against so many knobs when there some exclellent designs with multifunction knobs that would work well in less space. The left hand works on the lens controls, the right one is the one that should have easy access to more controls.
The lens looks like it is photoshopped. Are you sure this is FT5?
Yes, really looks like it is just copied into the picture.
But if this is true, its really STEAK SAUCE 😀 Legendary and awesome!
Sure. I think it’s Olympus that photoshopped the lens on the amera to make it look better! Sure it’s FT5! 🙂
maybe they originally shot that photo with some other lens yet to be introduced
i love it!
hope there is a small flash, hope in focusing peak, and i hope that the huge hump is not for a gps module.
This camera makes me dream…
this is the end of panasonic 😉
Till Feb. 7th 🙂
But inside hump is empty?
Seriously who cares about the hump
My girlfriend has nice humps that I like to hump
And I wouldn’t dare to tell her that her humps are too big
This looks like my next camera! Screw 4/3 in moving to m4/3
ITS FRIGGIN HUGE!!! its an xbox!!!
is that big grip optional? because it looks like there are 2 sets of shutter buttons at the top.
There are TWO grips on it. The actual camera ends at the bottom of the LCD screen.
If this camera has the image quality of the G3/GX1, is water resistant, is able to focus Lumix lenses as quickly as M.Zuiko lenses and if the new image stabilization system is indeed more effective, then Micro Four Thirds will have a very capable new body option.
From an ergonomics point of view, I’m a little worried that the eye cup is roughly in the same plane as the rear screen. With the EVF’s central placement, that should be a recipe for oily smears. Olympus should have adopted either the corner EVF of the NEX-7 or the screen that folds inward coupled with a protruding EVF like on the Lumix GH1/2 and G1/2/3 models.
ITS FRIGGIN HUGE!!! its an xbox!!!
is that big grip optional? is it part of the battery grip?! because it looks like there are 2 sets of shutter buttons at the top.
Any news on the shutter? Is it silent?
I am ready to buy it!
I also think that hump pops up, there’s some sort of mechanism under it as seen from the picture of the back…
I think there is a pop up flash in the hump. Under the mode dial I see something what looks like a flash icon on the picture. Or am I wrong?
under the mode dial is the m43 icon!
Still hoping for a detachable hump! :p
Judging from the earlier leaked pictures, there seem to be some connectors in the hump, since the part that is directly above the finder is slightly extended. Would be a shame if it really was just used for that.
Under the mode dial you can see the m4/3 simbol (look at the previous image.
I think that now we can say goodbye to the pop up flash.
Some one previously told that there will be a little flash (similar to epm1) included in the box (the flash will be weather sealed.
Now i can die happy.
I’m deffenely going to buy one, it seams just perfect.
PS: probably it has the same size of the old om1, and damn, it’s smaller than my ep1
“I think that now we can say goodbye to the pop up flash.”
Not necessarily, there could be a button on either side of the hump or it could be raised manually. The front cover of the hump looks like it could be separated from the rest in some way.
That new grip should make useing some of the heavier OM like the 2lb 35-80 more comfortable. That particular lens has been wonderful on my e-p3…but I think it would be great on any camera.
I am wondering if the early inclusion of a battery grip means poor battery life?
Not in the least. Everything about this camera is screaming “Pro!” Look at the power switch (not a button): that’s the type of switch and location you find on the E-5, not to mention the pro Canons. Battery grips are an essential accessory if you want to shoot all day, and the grip is there to make shooting in portrait orientation more comfortable.
I want one. Clearly they’re courting four-thirds folk with the grips/weathersealing/weather-proof adapter, which I would say bodes pretty well for the possibility that they’ve improved AF with 4/3 lenses. Although I’m worried that we would’ve heard about it already if it were the case.
There’s surely something going on up there along with the viewfinder. Either there’s a flash in there, or the thing articulates, I’m guessing.
Fingers crossed for 4/3 lens support.
E-5 –> E-M5
based on the amazon page, we can put the sensor provider mystery to rest… it’s a panasonic livemos
This has been known for a couple of days now.
Not my favorite design. I prefer a NEX7/Fuji XPro1/RF integrated EVF (i.e. on the left side), but if others buy this body, then it’s all good for the system.
This camera will be beating all current oponents. Nex7, fuji x1pro, Pentax k01. Except in picture quality ;-). Who cares, it looks good.
WTF?!?
If it was a pop-up flash, where do you see the button to make it pop!?
On the left of the back of the hump. Or it could be raised manually.
The icon under the mode dial is the “Live View” icon. Perhaps this dial will toggle the live view settings and also enlarge pics on the lcd. The button with the “TV screen” on the right side of the viewfinder should toggle the lcd on and off…or mabey it is a diopter adjustment. Its hard to tell if it is a button or a knob. It would make sense that the viewfinder would have a sensor to turn off the lcd when the camera is raised to the eye. I think the flash is in the feaux mirror-box hump and would raise manually, hinging at the front of the hotshoe an acting as a flash reflector.
Can someone explain why I see no AE lock, no WB, no ISO, no focus mode dedicated buttons?
What am I missing?
Customizable to a dial or fn button no doubt…but I too prefer a dedicated AE lock.
Ретро! Камера моего времени. Нравится. Куплю обязательно. Надеюсь, видео не будет таким гадким, как на XZ-1.
Tripod mount on the left and not in the centre?
Most of the buttons appear customizable.
?? Whats that got to do with the tripod mount?
Hope note but i guess is the same shit as EP-3 shifted tripod mount 🙂
Love it. Great size… Looks tiny with the Guy holding it
bulky, strange, akward and ugly compared to the E-P3. Maybe not the final version!
bulky, strange, akward and ugly compared to the E-P3. Maybe not the final version
bulky strange and ugly compared to the G3 🙂
the guy must be huge! 😀
anyway, to early to tell, need to see some reviews and hold the thing in my hands.
but still, it seems from the pictures that these companies are afraid to simplify the design,
the back seems too precious with so many groves corners and curves around…
they could learn from leica, like fuji did
@Admin
There are some symbols on the right side of the hump. You can see them if you zoom in the picture of the back of the camera.
I think it is a WiFi or bluetooth module on top of the hump
That is just the film/sensor plane symbol.
Something like this:
http://mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/nikonfeseries/fe2/filmplane.jpg
No no, not that. It is just beneath the hotshoe, on the right side from the back of the camera
I think it’s the button for switching between the finder and LCD
No, I mean this:
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1893/em5back.jpg
Thats the accessory port symbol.
http://www.cambridgecomputershop.co.uk/news&reviews/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/266bDCM116.lb_150711_gr.olympus_ep3_port-420-90.jpg
coooool… my next camera!
This whole situation is laughable. After all of the hype and the picture pieces fed to photographers by the OIy Marketing Dept…etc… To purchase this body with Grip and Battery compartment as shown above (no lens) we are talking what $1500-$1600??? The camera is built around a G3/GX1 sensor? I like the design and all of the options…but I would never spend that kind of money unless the camera had a Sony or Nikon etc. sensor in it with fuller dynamic range. Its a cool looking camera…but not one I would actually buy, I will save my money and wait for the base tech to improve..eventually there has to be a fuller DR sensor. Pick up a G3 body for $450 …the images will look the same.
I agree. I’m going to wait for the reviews before I fully pass judgment, but I kind of feel like they overhyped this camera….
While this is a bit trivial, I was under the impression that the metalic parts had more of a mirror finish, not the matte finish in these photos.
True Berneck…this is still all guessing from the bleachers…but we do know most of the facts at this point, it would appear. I would LOVE to be pleasantly surprised though and have this camera somehow magically pull and EV or two of DR out of an existing sensor!!!!!!!
+1
Would my GH1 body die, *knocks on wood*, I would buy the G3 or the GX1 … not only the price, but that ‘hump’ would prevent the camera from fitting my bags: the GH1, more the 14-140mm, 20mm and Raynox DCR-250 filter fit in a bridge sized bag (and all together cost less than this E-M5 giant).
If it had a new sensor that would me think twice… right now m43 sensors are really outdated, I hope GH3 comes with something really new.
Blah Blah Blah, stuck record. Sony sensor can be used in a cave crap.
http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microftmerit/merit2.html
Don’t get me wrong…I love the MFT format, cameras and lenses…I use them in conjunction with a FF DSLR system. I think that this Olympus camera is really cool looking and well built. I have a G3/GX1 cameras now. The highlights still get blown out in many lighting situations. (It’s just a fact). They do not on my 5D Mark II. Eventually the MFT sensor will get enough tech to accomplish this, too. It is just silly to spend this kind of money for a fabulous mechanical item based on the G3 sensor. A G3 camera is less than a third the price of the body setup at the top of the page…The raw images will look the same from both cameras. So the thought of purchasing this camera, in this price range is amusing, to me.
Dude, you realize that lots of cameras that occupy different price brackets use the same sensor, right? How many cameras is the 16MP Sony sensor in? Why buy the Nikon D7000 ($1100) when you can get the Sony nex-c3 for $500?
I agree..I am just saying for this particular camera (The new olympus)…it is a lot of money to spend on a camera with this sensor with limited dynamic range…it is THE issue for MFT as far as I am concerned…and needs to be addressed. At this price level if this camera had a sensor in it with 1 or 2 more EV’s of DR…then I think it would be worth it…with a G3 sensor…I do not think it is worth the money…just my opinion…everybody has one. I am not a fan of Sony cameras..they just have great sensor tech. , not much more. Give me MFT any day to that camera system.
Good for you. For the rest of us, this looks like a perfect upgrade from older m43 cameras inspite of the “older” sensor. Personally, I’m sold. I’m just waiting for sample images and first impressions of the camera. If they are in line with what we already know, Oly just got themselves a new customer.
Looks awesome acutally.. my first thought though.. its freakin huge… but now that I saw it in the hands of that polish guy I am not to worried anymore…
Still wondering where Oly is hiding the in-built flash… its their pro model so its gotta come with one..
“Pro” models generaly don’t have a built-in flash. Nikon D4 doesn’t have one. Neither does the Canon 1DX.
D4 and 1DX buyers won’t be cross-shopping this camera. Olympus can call it “pro” but the sensor (it’s rumored to have) doesn’t support the claim.
Fact is, $1000-ish for the body is still firmly in the consumer price range, and consumers want a built-in flash. Olympus learned this already and added one to the E-P3. Sony, too, and the NEX-7 is their most in-demand model. No flash on the OM-D is a mistake.
they’ll introduce a built-in flash on the E-M7 hehe
this is not a mistake, this is called obsolescence. who would buy an E-P4 then if the E-M5 has everything?
> [Why would anyone] buy an E-P4 then if the E-M5 has everything?
Cost. Weight. Size. Art filters.
cost, yes (but consider the weather-sealing and the EVF)
weight and size, I dont think the difference is huge
art filters, E-M5 will probably have them also
The blurb on the advertising copy released a day or so ago by Olympus was all about Art filters, so it´s going to have them big time.
Which makes sense, as Olympus is heavily into getting the most out of the sensor by software (read jpeg), so they would want to provide software filters that would also handle the sensor´s output to the max.
Other companies expect you to do it in Raw, which I do, I guess it´s just a different philosophy.
many of people I know bought E-PM1 because of the price alone, so yes +-$100 is a huge difference for many people.
people buying the E-PM1 I could understand that cost is the main priority. But if you have the money to buy an E-P3, and adding $100-200 more will get you a weathersealed body with EVF… I bet it would give you something to think about.
I’m just being realistic here, Olympus has a history of not giving everything on the first edition of a series.
You mean Slavidjan the giant?
Impressed! But I’m not seeing evidence for a built-in flash; I do see evidence of a port cover below the hot shoe. Notice the grip nobs on the protrusion below the hot shoe from the rear. They are the similar to those on the port cover for the VF-2. A port makes sense to support advanced electronics such as GPS, external flash options, and even perhaps the VF-2 to allow waist-level viewing.
In any case, the E-M5 is a technological tour de force if the specs hold true. Settled … I’m selling my Nikon DSLR system and will own an E-M5 by Christmas! To think that the same native MFT lenses will work on everything from the diminutive PL3/PM1 as a P&S form factor all the way up the the E-M5. Later … I’m out for a “photo day” with two P2s, five lenses, a light meter, and accessories in a bag that weights only 5.5 pounds. MFT rocks!
I suspect that the hump may be a “Transformer” thing, which you flip, turn, ot twist, and then the pop-up flash or other things comes out of the hump.
I can see the OM-D on the front but where is the E-M5 mark?
Looks to that its not the final picture.
The bulky viewfinder looks odd to me.
Let see on Wednesday February 8th the final statement.
JD
The E-M5 mark is on the top plate of the camera.
Just how many times do we have to endure this topic. It is on the top side of the camera! Zoom in and see for yourself.
It looks good but I’m not going to get excited until I’ve seen some results.
Looks cool. My first thought was that it was huge, then i saw the pic of the guy holding it. Very sleek looking, no silver bling. Like it a lot. Ergonomics are hard for me to tell from a pic. Will it deliver in iq?
Have you met Slavidjan the Giant?
OmG! it awakens my erotic fantasies… Looks so gorgeous! I want it!
Olympus rocks!
Some minor nits of personal preferences. I would have preferred the E-620, E-3, E-5 style of strap connector where you can feed a standard 3/8″ strap directly through, instead of having the little eye that you attach a d-ring which you attach a strap to. From the picture, it reminds me of the E-410 which I found hard to hold in the store, but I do find the E-P2’s placement to be not as bothersome in practice.
I’m not wild about skin of the camera, but I assume if I get the E-M5, that I will eventually get a Aka-asah leather 1/2 case like I did for the E-P2.
The LCD looks like it isn’t a true articulating LCD (like the E-5), but instead just allows movement in one direction (like the E-PL3). It would have been nice if had offered more articulation.
I wonder why there are two locking switches for the battery grip. Previous Olympus camera only had one (on the battery grip).
Speaking of the battery grip, I assume it is like the E-620 and takes 2 BLS-5 batteries, and not BLM-5 batteries.
I assume under the hot-shoe is the accessory port.
I assume the camera is sort E-620ish in size rather than E-5ish. I do wonder how it will handle holding bigger glass like the 50-200mm. I’ve seen people shooting with the 50-200mm on E-P2s and the like, but it always seems like it is unwieldy. While I find the E-x and 50-200mm to be better balanced.
There are two accessories on the body. A grip, and battery pack. You can do just the grip, or add the batt pack to. Maybe either or.
The two different locking is for auxiliary handgrip in front, and the other one for the actual battery vertical grip
Ah, clever, though I wonder why they did not use the E-P3’s aux. grip.
The upper of the two locking wheels seems to be for the grip on the front of the camera, the lower is for the side grip on the bottom of the camera. Without all of these accessories I think the camera will look and feel much more compact.
Looking good Oly!
Michael, there are two because the grip comes apart in two pieces, so you can use it without the bottome piece or with it. Om style. 🙂
The OM system had different options for film advance. The 3fps winder was one piece, but the motor drives (1 and 2) had separate motors and battery packs. This design mimics those. But why would you need two separate add-ons for just a battery grip? Maybe the module in the middle does something else, like Bluetooth or wi-fi.
Re the marks next to the shoe on top, remember that OMs for a long time did not include a shoe. This looks as if there are different shoe options, as was suggested. Maybe this is where the Bluetooth or wi-fi is.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I’ll cancel my NEX-7 order it this camera has decent specs and ships on time. Olympus already has a superior lens selection compared to the NEX series.
I too find the grip part too big for just being a grip.
If it is just a grip, I think it would have been better to design the body with an integral grip in stead.
I too find the grip part too big for just being a grip.
If it is just a grip, I think it would have been better to design the body with an integral grip in stead.
What about flash sync chord socket? If this was left off the pros will have some issues given that Fuji included this in their latest, largest, and considerably expensive rangefinder camera! Cactus flash triggers go away!
Its all about the right tool for the job at hand.
It looks like the external analog controls are spot on; Well done Olympus.
I’m a pro and I’ve used that one time. That’s what pocket wizards are for. Cords are 1980.
+1. Prontor-Compur isn’t even 1980, its 1950.
No doubt this is a good looking camera , tempted to get for my 45mm F1.8 . Hopefully the image quality produced by this new cam capable to compare with the best .
Fantastic design. and wow, that pic of the polish guy with the cam really ads to the experience! Not… 🙂
Looks very promising. I hope the new lenses, in particular the macro, are sealed, too.
I’m also curious for the new flash: A mFT sized macro flash would be nice… But I guess it would be too much to ask for a weathersealed one. As there is no underwater housing for the macro flashes.
If you look at the back shot, you can see that the back of the “prism” hump is not solid, but is separate from the body. Almost a certainty there is a flash under there.
Good news, in photos show clearly pop up flash system 🙂
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8477/flashpop1.jpg
Very nice design! There are few buttons which makes me fear that you have to dig into menues very often. I do not like the click-intensive interface of the E-P1. (always selecting for different info in the live view for instance – really crap!) The GF1 and G3: Set up the info you want and that’s it – no problem at all.
If this camera has that user interface it is a show stopper for me. When I do photography the camera must not hamper the creative process. Some people who constantly click their electronic toys may like the E-P1 UI but I tried it for two years and came to the conlclusion it was crap.
Really hope that Oly takes another UI path with this camera.
I guess you’re one of those people who dont know how to use the Super Control Panel on the E-P1 (same SCP as their DSLRs). just pressing OK then Info will toggle it on if you dont like the E-P1 menu.
I know the SCP panel and the EP1 very well after around 10000 exposures. On top of that I have 50 years photo experience…..
The problem I mentioned above does not concern the functionality in SCP panel at all.
Arrow markings on direction pad in release model probably replaced by ISO, WB, DRIVE/TIMER, AF (as on Pens).
I have to say…that I find this whole situation to be laughable. All the hype (puzzle-piece picture feed from Oly Marketing Dept), etc…
With the cost of this camera with grip and battery compartment…what are we talking $1500 to $1600 for the body alone. Hello, this is built around a G3/GX1 sensor. So not worth the cash outlay. If the had a Sony or Nikon sensor as its operating platform with fuller DR…than yes…that would make sense…but a camera of this magnitude built around a sensor of this limited nature ..is just silliness. Totally.
Great looking piece of equipment…not something I would buy.
Unfortunately, I’m thinking a little as you…I would like to be exited but I’m not really, waiting for the reviews…
From observing the pics I guess the grip is made to look like the motordrive 2, that came in two parts.
What this means is you can attach and detach the grip without opening the batterydoor and by adding the extra battery part at the bottom you’d get 3 sets of batteries unless the bottompart only hold one.
One concern about tripod mounting. Does it have a second screwmount centered under the lens? The bottom of the E-M5 must look like Swiss cheese. On the left screwmount for grip on the right side I think they have to make a hole to hook the right side of the grip. Otherwise when in vertical I foresee the body to sway left from the grip. Potential loss of communication between the 14 contactpoints on the grip (HLD-4 has 14 contacts)when the body seperates from grip. Same story when attaching bottom grip.
When holding on the bottomgrip in vertical with 50-200mm and maybe FL50 attached you have a lot of weight pulling to the left.
ONN/OFF switch is oriented like E-3/5 (flip up), opposite to E-30 (on is flip down)
Where did the AE/AFL button go? must program one of the FN button for sure. Hope the REC button is programmable too when not in filmmode (manual magnification, oh yeah).
Are these photos in a right aspect ratio?
I feel they are little bit distorted. (compressed horizontally slightly).
The rear side of EVF hump has a funny block. I suspect it as a certain connector cover or something. That means it is removal.
Current E-P series has a special port right back of the hot shoe. Basically it’s for EVF. but now it’s for Bluetooth funny transmitter, too. Is the block for the cover of current E-P series port?
if so, I don’t need it… just for BT transmitter. I don’t think the port has the future. And OM-D has a some connector at the bottom of the body as we see the external battery block. The external battery has two Fn keys, so it provide not only DC power, but also communicate in some protocol. The future is on that connector.
BTW, what is it on the right of the external battery with rotary knob? It looks two knobs in from and back (or same knob?)
Two knobs on the battgrip like topplate camera. Shutterrelease button with dial and on the back the second dial.
Oh, I got it!
And I also understand why B-Fn too!
What’s the button in the shadows to the right of the VF window and left of the checkerboard button? It appears to have a bumpy circle on it. Looks too small for diopter…BTW, where’s the diopter adj?
Probably the LCD/EVF switch?
Nice, though EVF should have been removable.
with EVF removable you have all pens
Exactly, but according to ads, this one beats them in terms of IQ and AF speed. + design is very nice.
The vertical grip looks having a movable part at the position for thumb. I guess it will erect when you turn the knob of this grip to unlocked position.
Bullshit aside this looks like the nicest olympus since the E 1 finally olympus you had me worried
Yet another faux DSLR, like the GH2 I just sold . Meh.
David
Hello,
I may be the only one but I am utterly disappointed by such a classic / conservative design, that does not mean that I am not interested in the camera in itself. I still happen to use the Olympus e-1, namely the nicest DSLR of the numerical area from Olympus with an unusual and risky L-shape and wonderful ergonomics ; I am just sorry to feel that Olympus is still thinking that the best way to convince people to get their top range model system camera is to bring people the illusion of this stupid «faux DSLR» look.
Faux-DSLR look is not worse than faux-rangefinder-look. And you have to put the EVF somewhere… 🙂
Not sure to agree. The faux-rangefinder-look of the DSLR area (Olympus e-330, Panasonic L-1) never succeeded, partly because the constraints of the optical viewfinder were that strong that it resulted in being too tiny. But with an electronic viewfinder, they were entirely free to bring something new but eventually essentially brought a mini-E3/E5. Still, I may be interested in the camera but their designers are not currently as performing as they used to be.
What is a “faux rangefinder” design? In my view, the natural shape is the (slightly rounded) brick shape, with as few humps as possible to avoid the camera getting entangled/stuck in something. — but at the same time giving as nice a grip s possible. Also, I prefer an EVF. If this is what is meant by “faux rangefinder”, then the whole idea of “faux rangefinder” is an utterly absurd one. A “faux dslr” however, is stupid at the outset *unles the hump has a function*. If the only function is to feed nostalgia, then it is simply stupid. Sorry to be blunt, but that’s it.
you are not the only one !!!
What pentax also failed is that the idea of mirrorless is SMALL. if it is just a little bit smaler than it makes no sense.
The ultimate mirrorless reference is the NEX 7 (except the lenses, but this will soon change too…)
you are not the only one !!!
What Olympus / Pentax also failed is that the idea of mirrorless is SMALL. if it is just a little bit smaler than it makes no sense.
The ultimate mirrorless reference is the NEX 7 (except the lenses, but this will soon change too…)
I do agree. Put the EVF on the left side, so you don’t bump your nose on the screen. There is no need to put it in the middle over the lens anymore.
I do agree. Put the EVF on the left side, so you don’t bump your nose on the screen. There is no need to put it in the middle over the lens anymore.
You bump your nose on the screen even more if the EVF is to the left. Put it on the right side!!
I see no evidence whatsoever of Sony making any small NEX lenses.
When will SONY makes small NEX lens? No rumors. No evidence. No commitment. No future in lens.
The idea of mirrorless is not just about being small (although micro is)!
Mirrorless is also about the elimination of complex PDAF mechanics, replaced w/ the more accurate CDAF, and at the same time eliminate the costly and often dim penta prisms. It’s about having no obstructions in the light path, a shorter flange-back distance allowing for more compact lens designs, i.e. non-retrofocal UWAs, it’s about a big EVF view, as opposed to a small tunnel-like OVF, a smooth Live View operation, higher FPS etc etc…
Moreover, to be handled as a pro cam with some pro-grade bright lenses attached, it does need some heft and size, to provide the grip and balance needed for that. If your only priority is itsy bitsy tiny, go buy an E-PM1 or G3. Or an even smaller one, which are also out there in abundance.
Thank you for being a rare voice of reason in these parts
This thing is as gorgeous as the Pentax K-01 is ugly. Okay, maybe it’s not *that* gorgeous, but it still looks great anyway. 🙂
I particularly like how it manages to look both classic and modern at the same time.
Do you have a poll option for:
Love the front of the camera, congrats for the sensible choice of the tilty screen, hate the add on ginormous vertical grip. Like the central VF, but why is it so high? Nikon have shown with the V1 an EVF can be much more compact.
Obviously, it’s for looks like a “real” dslr.
No, it is for look likes a SLR
Please show me the link to picture of that Polish guy holding it!
Please show me the link to thee photo of that Polish guy holding E-M5
The hump IS the flash. There appears to be a hinge between, and at the rear of, the hot shoe rails, which could mean the entire hump with hot shoe, lifts at the front and flips up and back. There are definite seams at the front and sides of the hump.
This would give a pretty high flash with reduced tendency for red-eye.
The E-4XX and 5XX series didn’t have flash and I can’t see a button to relase the flash on the E-M5. Maybe it’s opperated by touchscreen.
Interesting, then my E-510 and my sisters E-520 and my friends E-420 must be some sort of special versiosn since they all have a flash.
My bad. Thought E-30 and E-3/5 had flash.
I use flash triggers anyway. Happy to see the hotshoe is free for triggers and not add on EVF, altough a complementary PC socket is always welcome.
All of Olympus DSLRs except for the E-1 have a pop-up flash. Starting with the E-420/E-520 generation, the pop-up flash can also control the remote flashes (FL-36R, FL-50R, FL-300R, plus the Metz and Cactus flashes).
The E-300 and E-330 had no hump on the top, and you could use the camera with both the pop-up flash and a FL-36 (and the camera had different controls for both). In all of the other cameras, it was an either or situation, though I’ve never tried to put a stripped down flash cable to see if you could use the hot-shoe and pop-up flash at the same time, even though there was no menu option for controlling the power of ea.
The E-1, E-3, E-30, and E-5 all have an additional pc-sync connector on the left side. The pc-sync connection fires in all modes.
I don’t recall that any of the DSLRs’ pop-up flash could be angled for a weak ceiling bounce, like it could with the Panasonic L1/L10 DSLRs and E-PL1/E-PL2.
In terms of add-ons using the accessory port, obviously the VF-2 and VF-3 EVF’s would not be needed, but depending on whether they have a microphone connector, you might want the SEMA-1 for external microphone. The MAL-1 macro lights would also be interesting. Somebody out in the world probably wants to use the Penpal bluetooth attachment.
Please show me the link to thee photo of that Polish man holding E-M5
It is in the Admin’s text at the top.
Please paste the link to the photo of that Polish man holding E-M5
Please paste the link to the photo of that Polish man holding E-M5.
PayPal me 5 bucks and I’ll send you the link.
LOOOOL 😀
Olympus had better tweaked the sensor REAL GOOD. Stunning design.. 😀 happy.
Really hope there isn’t a built in flash. Use the space with a tiltable viewfinder, microphone ports, gps or whatever. Built in flash are a waste of space, of weight, and of money. Get a real flash if you need one.
+1
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You don’t need to use it if you don’t like it.
But many don’t want to carry an external flash all the time, and also don’t want to loose shooting opportunities that need some kind of flash, because one has to first dig out and install that external flash, and after that the motive is gone.
Absolutely, I don’t use it, I dont like it, I dont want it to be on the camera and I don’t like to pay for it!
Given the Olympus remote flash protocol uses the pop-up flash (or clip-on flash in the case of the E-PM1 or E-PL3), you need something to control the remote flashes. I really would prefer not to have a clip-on flash, since I figure that is easily lost when you are carrying the camera.
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size and Weight popup flash is ridicules.
All supermini compact cameras have popup flash.
Build flash = RC support to shot external flash
No build flash = not RC support
While I understand your preference, it’s in the minority for people looking at this price range. I did the E-P2 with a “real” flash and it got old, real fast. Pro flashes are for paying photo jobs, not walking around on vacation where it makes you look like a camera dork.
+1
Yes! Built-in flash is a toy. This design allows a flash on top without losing the EVF.
Love the look. I think we may be surprised how small it is. These pictures (huge grips – blank background) make it look big.
I think the basic dimensions will be close to the E-P3 plus a hump.
Looks really good! The optional grip, and battery pack make it a comfortable camera for larger lenses with 4/3 mount. Without then, it’s perfect and small. These pictures give me high hopes for this camera, or the MMF-3 adapter, to have a PDAF trick.
Keep the news coming!
Looks really good! The optional grip, and battery pack make it a comfortable camera for larger lenses with 4/3 mount. Without them, it’s very small. These pictures give me high hopes for this camera, or the MMF-3 adapter, to have a PDAF trick.
Keep the news coming!
Buy me is written all over the body, must be a dream to handle , i ll buy this on day one additional to my fullframe, mainly for video and portability, good job olympus
Wicked! Amazing looking camera!
it’s an OM alright!
To all those concerned bout a ‘Hump’, it’s an OM for Pete sake, it’s supposed to look like an OM, if it never had the ‘hump’ it’d no longer be an OM.
If you want RF styling, look elsewhere – as for myself, i’m currently knocking one off furiously at the thought 😉
On a serious note, GREAT GREAT! Best looking, and sized SLR on the market – I hope performance wise it cracks up to be a winner – and we may well see some Pro’s shooting it for sports and wildlife too!
This thing makes the gh2 look like a toy, fantastic built, i wonder if theres a surprise in the vf
I`m an old OM-4 user, and I`ll buy this camera asap. Probably sell my E-3 as well.
Like the power switch – hate buttons for power….
But where is my ep1 type thumb wheel as well! damit!!!
The hotshoe thing looks tacked on. The original OM-1/2 had very small top prisms. Sleek. Is the LCD on back bigger? Does it articulate?
New to 4/3rds, wanted to comment/ask if there could be two versions of same body style; one micro and one regular 4/3rds, just by changes the mount portion of the body? Because if I could use some of the 4/3rds legacy zooms natively without and adapter this would interest me, but not it is for the m4/3rds lens range.
Love it, im buying one
Could have more buttons.
Where is the shutter speed dial/ring around the mount??
missing it too 🙁
Oky folks, where much more hight is E-M5 so E-P3 ?
Absolutely beautiful camera. Professional and elegant looking at the same time. I will be buying this for sure.
and LOL at the haters, you guys are never fucking happy. I don’t know why you expect m4/3 to solve all your problems, don’t like it move the fuck on and troll somewhere else.
totally agree!
Are there 2 dials like on the e5 or just one?
2 or 3 with grip.
I like this design. Seems to be good to handel with my big hand. not too litle, not to big, the right size may be.
But looking at the front pics i notice some photoshop make up just around the lens. The frontiere between the lens and the body, the mount, seems to me a little fake. A sort of montage of a pics of the body and a pics of the lens. I dont know why ?
may be it is just because the two part have been taken separatly.
or maybe the mount is a little different from that pics.
may be a bit special for a certain purpose … or not.
I m just guessing beacause of that photoshop make up.
maybe it is just nothing, or my eyes.
Sweet camera! Congratulations Olympus. Really looking forward to more info, but so happy to see the whole thing.
Hyyyyyype!
Finally we get to see the real thing after all the hype! Strange how the straight angular lines fed piecemeal to us now have been transformed into an EVF dome that looks more like an space age helmet or the dome at a nucleur facility. In reality to me it is simply Oly’s attempt to disguise the bulky housing of the existing VF2. In other words the E-D5 is more a collection of mainly existing body parts housed in a new body (with some new features like hoped for improved IBIS) which other than the EVF bulge looks very good to me. We should not be surprised of this approach given how quickly this model was produced with limited financial resources by Oly. I only hope that Pany in their new models incorporates the technology used in the small OLED high rez EVFs like that in NEX7 or Fuji XPro1. Looks more like a replacement for the E3 to me.
I like the idea of the compact cam with transformer grip + battery bottom. However, it looks like the grip is required before you can put on the battery bottom. Does the grip have battery too, or will they be sold together? I’m not sure I’ll go for the grip + bottom, unless battery life necessitates it.
I also look forward to learning what the transformer top (hump) can do, and have my fingers crossed for great IQ. Actually, I have little doubt the IQ will be strong, but do hope for a pleasant surprise in the high ISO performance department.
Finally, with the (E-5 style E-M5 name, the heavy lens grips, and the pro fixings, I am really optimistic that E-M5 will return Oly’s 43 glass to top-flight AF performance.
Bottom line: a versatile camera like the E-M5 + great glass will rock.
I believe the E-M5 will be my first Olympus camera body (plenty of Oly FT + MFT glass already :-)).
I hope the shoe is detachable like the OM-1/-2’s was.
because I don’t like the high profile it has in this pics.
it looks Top much DSLR-ish, just like an E-620 or something uncool like that.
I hope the shoe is detachable like the OM-1/-2’s was.
because I don’t like the high profile it has in this pics.
it looks too much DSLR-ish, just like an E-620 or something uncool like that.
Yes, I love it! Look forward using one soon! 🙂
Looks like the camera batman would use.
I’m 99% sure there’s no popup flash:
There’s no space for the flash to “pop up”, it would get stuck with the hot shoe
Very likely just space enough for a tiltable viewfinder
i’m 99% sure includes popup flash:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8477/flashpop1.jpg
And in rumour specifications show:
The built-in flash will have a GN=10 (Guide Number)
Based on these pictures, I’m 99% sure that it doesn’t. For your mechanism to work to prism would have to slide forward, up and then back to clear the hotshoe cover. Also, the seams on the body appear too narrow to open up.
I’m pretty sure the rumor stated that a flash was included. Whether that’s inside the body or as a separate accessory in the box remains to be seen. And, of course, it’s only a rumour.
My money is on no flash, no tiltable EVF. Just some extra space to be able to fit the accessory port.
Includes popup flash not increases price, all cheap cameras have flash.
Popup flash = RC support to external flash
If camera is sealed what is reason for making seams in this zone?
I think: seams = moving part = pop up flash
ADMIN: question that doubt your informants, please
You are perfectly right – all cheap cameras have a pop-up flash.
But this is not a cheap camera – so no flash. As simple as that.
Yeaaah, i dig the Batcam +100
I want a Batcam too. Chicks dig the Batcam.
Finally, Olympus !! Finally you got it. No PEN design, no f…ing, awkward, flimsy multicontroller. It seems that the view finder has an eye sensor, bravo.
However, generally, the body design of the GH2 still has the edge in ergonomics. The on/off switch is definitely in the wrong position. It belongs where one’s index finger naturally sits. I also don’t see switches for AF-Mode, measuring characteristics and so on.
To judge, what is better in hand, GH2 or OM-D, clearly we need to compare both cameras physically in hand.
Well done, Olympus. In the future, please, more of this, and much less PEN stuff.
Why the power switch at the index finger? IMHO, it should be out of the way, as the camera can put itself to sleep and wake-up as needed.
Here’s the Canon 1ds (back has changed a bit over the years, but the power switch remains the same):
http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos1ds/Images/allroundview.jpg
Here’s the D3:
http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD3/Images/allroundview.jpg
Note the power switch location.
Interesting. Indeed, there’s no power switch on my OM-40 :-p
If you look at the power switch location of the GH2, you know where it should be. In order to save battery, it is better to switch a m4/3 camera, which usually has low battery life, off. Therefore the battery switch should be easily reached, which is not the case here. Such switches are usually designed in a way that you don’t change their position accidentally.
The Canon positions of on/off switches are in the wrong position as well. Nikon does a better job in this respect.
Thank god my lenses are all black.
this modern classic design is simply elegant! can’t wait to upgrade to this from my ep1.
Like the look and how it is implemented. Looks like a serious professional tool, not sure about the sensor though. If it’s a APS-C size sensor, definitely I’ll order one. M4/3…let’s wait and see what are the improvements.
I do not know what you say
Camera m4/3 = sensor 4/3
Camera APS-C = sensor APS-C
Simple. Since it’s M4/3, let’s wait and see what are the improvements on the sensor to match its look.
It is obviously going to be a 4/3rds (micro or not) sensor. Any other size would mean you would need to make a whole set of new lenses available. That would be financial suicide.
you must be ne here (jk :P)
Couldn’t agree more! I will definitely buy at least 2 of these if it has better sensor and sensor size like the aps-c sensor in sony nex5n.
But paying with pro amount for a micro sensor camera which doesn’t even have builtin flash is ridiculous.
Are you seriously doubting that the sensor will be 4/3? Do you know what site this is?
Do you know that it says micro 43 on it? On the back picture to the left of the viewfinder.
Not very many buttons -> interface driven primarily by touch?
Relatively large hump -> VF circuitry and optics. Maybe a WiFi/Bluetooth antenna?
Back in E-3 times I got a chance to stand on the bare chassis. I expect this camera will have the same build quality. Lets hope we’ll start seeing SHG-ish µ4/3’s glass to go with it.
I’ve been waiting for a sealed µ4/3’s camera for years. Looks like Olympus has finally come through. Now I just have to either a) sell a kidney or b) get a job so I can buy one ;-). Plus the 12/2, 45/1.8, 60/2.8, and 75/1.8. Maybe its get a job AND sell a kidney ;-).
Priced around $1500, they call it PRO without flash and best of all :MICRO 43 sensor from pana gx1. Lol
Well, but its weathershield. Why would you need to pay for a weathershield on this type of camera? It looks like a pro dslr but with a non pro sensor of m43. Now why would you spend $1500 for that?
If you look at the well sealed cameras, you’ll see they are all much bigger than an E-M5, and there those of us (like me), who find the idea of hiking/climbing all day with a large system unpleasant. This may be the best adventure camera to date.
I understand your idea. This is a good concept that oly put, it’s just a bit overkill I would say. The price wise compare to the the sensor size which is just a tweaked of pana gx1 micro43 sensor.
Yes! Agree totaly!
@ IHUR
Agreed. Just like putting a consumer film in a Nikon F6. You still won’t get a pro looking photo.
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What kind of pictures you do IHUR? I do 15×20″ prints from my E5 and my E-P3 that are apreciable better than those I do to my friends with Canon 7D and Nikon D7000. I don’t understand what you mean by a non pro sensor. Yes, It has some less DR and a little bit moré noise, but It does’t preclude to get excellent images, in many cases better than the competition, and with less MP.
Could you give me some side by side comparison images how your micro43 can be better than those dslr cameras?
Don’t get me wrong, you can always have a professional photographs just by using p&s cameras, but should you have used a better camera on that moment with the same objects, it could’ve been better. Much better. That if you are looking for perfection day by day on your work.
Sorry to offend you or other people here, but I never think m43 was created for professional photography though it can mimic the functionality. It’s more for walkaround/travelling cameras, for its ‘p&s’ size with better quality. But, putting a pro name, battery grip, and other pro technology and features with micro sensor and priced the camera with premium price, is simply overkill.
Well I have to say… this is bullshit.
Remember the Canon 1Ds mk2?
It was one of THE über-pro SUPER much used PRO DSLR. Used for EVERYTHING including ads and modelling jobs and what not. And it is still in use today. Everybody seemed to think that the quality was perfect and more than enough.
Truth is… the G3/GX1 sensor pretty much has the same quality. Slightly less DR, but also less noise and higher sharpness/more details in general.
Yes… there are now EVEN BETTER cameras/sensors on the market.
But if one camera is STILL used professionally and held in high regard… and another one is of the SAME quality, how then can this then NOT be enough quality?
If the quality is enough for real pros… it sure is enough for me.
IHUR,
The comparisons have been done on 4/3.
http://www.43rumors.com/olympus-e-5-third-best-dslr-camera-ever-tested-at-fotomagazine-de-e-5-in-stock/
Look this up it will show you where 43 is not where you wish it was.
The camera itself could be the size of an E-P3 with a slight EVF hump, which would make it similar to a Panasonic G3. These renderings with the battery and grip add-on make it look massive. I’m still not completely convinced that these are actual pictures, I believe they are high quality 3D renderings of what it’s supposed to look like, and the front image is an obvious Photoshop.
This makes me think that Olympus is attempting to switch their line of pro DSLR from the 4/3 standard to the Micro 4/3 standard. This website will have to be renamed ‘Micro43rumors.com’ very soon.
The lens is added on in ‘photoshop’ yes, but this is (very) common in product photography, and the same in the official E-P3 images if you look closely.
Unfortunately, whoever was in charge of photoshop-ing the image of the lens to the image of the camera could have done a better job.
Is it so difficult to take a picture of the prototype with a lens mounted? Don’t think so…
If it is a 3D rendering, is it so difficult to model a fake lens? Not at all.
If the graphic artist only had access to a standalone image of the body and a standalone image of the lens, at least paint a better fake shadow cast.
Sigh… I’m too much of a damn perfectionist. 😛
It is not very good, now that you bring it up. The lens is not even centered on the lens mount. In fact, it is strangely poor. I wonder if it was a generated picture on Amazon in which you select what you want an Amazons puts the image together.
Off to take real product shots.
“Is it so difficult to take a picture of the prototype with a lens mounted? Don’t think so…”
its a matter of access
if this is the true camera … three things come to mind
the EVF makes a big hump , bigger than an OVF would
if the camera is black , olympus better makes the 12mm and the 45mm available in black
Harold
That was only two things…??
the third one was his name.
LOL
Ooops thank you for pointing out that out to me
my third point was . we will have to see how quickly how olympus can develop weather sealed lenses for this body for those of us who do not care about the 12-50mm
Harold
Well lets see, assuming a weather sealed adapter to classic 4/3rds lenses is part of the announcement, we already have:
Olympus 14-54mm mark 1
Olympus 14-54mm mark 2 (faster focusing on Pens?)
Olympus 11-22mm
Olympus 50-200mm mark 1
Olympus 50-200mm SWD (mark 2)
Olympus 12-60mm
Olympus 7-14mm
Olympus 14-35mm
Olympus 35-100mm
Olympus 50mm macro
Olympus 150mm
Olympus 90-250mm
Olympus 300mm
Olympus 8mm fisheye
Presumably he means lenses that focus fast. In an ideal world, Olympus would have some trick in the camera or in the adapter that would give fast AF for the old 4/3 lenses.
Well not everybody shoots sports. When I bought the E-P2, I knew it wasn’t a fast focusing camera, and usually it forces me to slow down and compose the shot. Also, the 14-54mm mark 2 is optimized for CD-AF focusing, so it should focus reasonably fast. Yeah, it would be nice if the SWD lenses focus as fast as on the E-5, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
the problem with the MMF-2 adapter is not weatherseal im sure they are releasing a weatherseal edition only im sure it will be the same… the hump on the head is like a thing that will unleash of our 43 lense … yahoo 12-60… 50-200 swd
It is quite amateur of Olympus to release the image of the EM-5 in its most massive form. I wish they would have released full images of the body sans grips. The grips are cool, and definitely something not available OEM from Panasonic, or any mirrorless camera maker for that matter, but wouldn’t common sense tell Olympus to release images that make the camera look small? I consider it one of the many gaffes that Olympus is guilty of. And yes we don’t know if the images are real, but presumably, Olympus has released everyone of these images.
OLYMPUS you make such distinctive high quality products, why can’t you just learn how to communicate them properly.
I’m glad I have gotten a “preview” of the grip(s), because the camera without a grip is a no-go for me.
No, I don’t think you understand the mindset of the people Olympus is trying to appeal to. Many DSLR users feel the battery grip and portrait grips are important (particularly those shooting with higher end bodies). While I only use my HLD-4 when I’m shooting with my E-5 inside of its steampunk bellows setup, most of the people shooting with E-5’s, E-3’s, etc. use the portrait grip. Fortunately unlike the high end Nikon and Canon bodies, you can remove the battery grip for a smaller profile camera.
The makes NO sense. Why would someone want to take a small/light m4/3 camera and add a bulky/heavy grip 🙁 Why Retro instead of a Modern & Functional Design (like a Sony NEX 7) 🙁
If I buy an EM-5, it will be despite it’s Old Fashion design. Meh.
you clearly lack imagination
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because holding a nex 7 feels like shit compared to holding a OM2 from the 80s
have you actually hold the nex-7? or you are just one of those sony haters
The Sony Nex is 70s gone bad styling, this is 70s gone good. Kind of like the 5n.
NEX7 is another semi retro design with controls based heavily to on screen menus for consumer dummies. (also based to having two right thumbs instead of controls being distributed more evenly to available fingers)
Eight years old KonicaMinolta A2 is more like what basic design of modern legacy free mirrorless high end body should be. Along with other style of menu free controls instead of high end DSLR standard of separate buttons for activating settings to be changed.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/konicaminoltaa2/page3.asp
I have the K-M A2 and I can tell you that I also have the optional battery grip for it. That camera does not look as well put together as the E-M5, and it’s battery grip is larger and not as nice as the E-M5.
The better camera in terms of form and functionality is the E-M5. I will definitely order it. I also have a couple of OM-1 cameras. Oly nailed it.
Maybe you should inform yourself better concerning the NEX-7 UI. Your statement is valid for Nex-3-5.
UI = un-interesting
Minolta just rocked, is such af f* pity this company doesnt exist anymore..
>Why would someone want to take a small/light m4/3 camera and add a bulky/heavy grip
Because with out the grip the ergonomics of the Olympus m43 line were designed for midgets. Some of us like to also have control and balance of our gear and not play finger yoga. Besides who is forcing you to buy the grip? If you don’t like it don’t buy it but it gives those who find m43 too small a change for some relief.
Then what is the point of m43? You might as well buy a DSLR if m43 is too small.
It allows the camera to be a ‘one size fits all’ what ever kind of photographer you are this camera seems to be pointed at you. If 10% of the users agree with that idea that is a lot of sales.
Again no one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy the grip. m43 is way too small for me and its awkward to use. I still prefer my E-1 my there will never be an E-1 (design) with updated internals. Since I prefer to own Olympus gear m43 is the next step.
Bigger 4/3 lenses, that’s why
It makes a lot of sense. Some want the camera as small as possible to fit a big pocket, some want a camera with ‘feel’ that will be balanced with 43 lenses attached. This seems to be able to fit both jobs by using or not using the grip.
Some of us have normal-sized or large hands. I tend to shoot 50% vertically. A vertical grip is what I need. A larger horizontal grip is welcome!
I don’t think you have used a camera with a battery grip & portrait controls. Once you have it & use the two positions frequently, it makes life more comfortable & in this camera, it won’t be all that large.
I have a grip for my E-3 and E-5, and previously had a grip for my E-1 (and sold it). I personally find I prefer shooting hand held without the grip, but many E-3/E-30/E-5 shooter prefer the grip. If I shot with the 35-100mm or 90-250mm, I might prefer having the grip, but with ‘only’ the 50-200mm, I find the camera feels fine.
In fact, nobody asked Olympus to offer a grip for EM-5. A grip for EM-5 is just an option for using EM-5 in various photography situation. Some people may need it. Some may not. If you don’ like a grip, then just don’t buy it. What’s the problem?
I like having several options. I may or may not buy a grip, and will consider it later once I have a chance to hold EM-5 in my own hands.
I can’t help it, the lens is photoshopped.
Doesn’t have to mean a thing, but a little irritating at least.
The real cam will look different.
“I can’t help it, the lens is photoshopped.”
Well, at least the front part of it is. For anyone who ever has worked in a marketing department, it’s easy to guess why. They made a photo of the camera with the lens mounted, but then some marketing person said, “We can’t use this; the front element of the lens doesn’t have pretty highlights and reflections on it.” (These are difficult to achieve; the lens usually has to be lighted separately.)
There was no time to re-do the photo, so some unfortunate graphics person was assigned to take an existing photo of another camera, and graft the front part of the lens (complete with pretty highlights and reflections) onto their new photo of the camera body and rear lens section. Unfortunately, the two photos had not been taken from exactly the same angle, so the perspectives didn’t match perfectly. The Photoshop artist probably was given only a short time to do it — “I need it before lunch so I can show my boss in our meeting this afternoon” — and in any case it’s very difficult to apply perspective distortion to circles without having them look unnatural.
So that’s how we wound up with a photo in which the lens looks as if it was kinked in the middle, where the two photos were blended together.
I just still dream about digital backs for old Minolta or OM or Nikon… (like Leica and Hassy attempts) and still wonder why they make “DSLR camera like” with a mirrorless system and aleady outdated EVF? I will buy a Nikon D3S when the price will drop a little instead of that for sure.
You lift weights in your spare time?
I like the camera. It looks nice and probably it has the most used features I like. But… the price is very important and I find that comparing with DSRL, the cameras that EVIL try to pull out, it is expensive.
In Europe you can find a Nikon D7000 for 925 euros and a Canon 600D for 600 euros; E-M5 will cost 1.100 euros.
In terms of image quality Canon and Nikon are much better, so… this mean that if I buy the Oly camera I will be paying much more… for less quality¡¡¡. For me the only advantage over the competition is the size -and to be weather sealed-, so I find the price too expensive. So here comes the question: How much do you think should be a reasonable price?
Regarding to the sensor, the camera could cost about 500 euros and if you want to add a plus for the size this could be… 150 euros. After you can add for weather sealed 200 euros. So I think that a right price should be 850 euros.
1.100 euros is too expensive for this camera.
The concept is excellent! Too bad its still just a micro43 sensor, and yet you paid for the amount for pro dslr price. It doesnt really have ‘ground breaking’ technology that came out of intensive research, but rather a recycling and tweaking stuff that already exist. Yet, they priced it like how FUJI priced their XPro1 camera with its cutting-edge aps-c sensor.
True pro DSLR’s are $5k and up (D3s, 1DsIV). Semi-pro (D300s, 7D) are $1.3-2.0k. At $1.1k, this is a bit lower, but I expect the build quality and size to make it the new standard for “adventure” cams, for people like me who like to abuse their bodies in the name of getting the shot.
Honestly, if the metering is good (and I expect it will be), then the IQ will be nearly indistinguishable from a NEX 7 in most (not all!) circumstances. If AF is as good as Olympus is claiming (pending), it seems like the price is about right. As I said before, I’m getting one by hook or by crook. Preferably hook.
How do you know it’s $1.1k ? Or perhaps you mean Euro..and yes it will definitely be more expensive than Nex7, still you’re hoping that the IQ will be’nearly indistinguishable’ than the cheaper nex7
I wouldn’t expect this to touch the Nex 7 IQ. The difference between the top performing m43 sensors and this 24mpx Sony sensor is just too large. Unless Oympus has a brand new, much better performing sensor, it’s image quality will not be indistinguishable to the Nex 7.
http://bit.ly/AypPnW
However, I’m sure it will be good, but the Nex 7 has one of the best APS-C sensors in the industry (there are better sensors for high ISO shooting though, but it’s still a decent performer).
That would be such a dream crusher for m43 lovers. To pay something similar or maybe even more expensive just to get cool body but lower IQ and DR.
Agree bout that NEX7 , and Nex-5N for high ISO, Pentax K-5 for overall aps-c beast!!
To everything who thinks that DxOMark is the be-all/end-all of camera evaluation, please read this:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml
Its an interesting read, and got me to stop obsessing about things like DxOMark.
“To everything who thinks that DxOMark is the be-all/end-all of camera evaluation, please read this:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml”
Very interesting, 4 years old, and if his speed of movement is true (I believe it is) then the gap is closer.
Another interesting statement is made here regarding prints. Who here on this forum prints larger than 13 x 19″ often enough to justify the cost of a medium format (digital)? With the improvements made by all major camera makers it would be almost impossible to pick one print from another at 13 x 19″. Some pixel peeping may show differences but only nuts look at merging dots, there is no art or wow in pixels.
for the thousandth time; image quality = sensor + optics
I care less about IQ (image quality) than I do about PQ (picture quality.) PQ depends not only on IQ, but also on handling, portability, responsiveness, and all the other subjective factors that make a camera either help or hinder you at getting good pictures.
A scanning back on a 4×5 camera would give vastly better IQ than anything we talk about on this forum, but for most uses would have no PQ at all because nobody wants to drag one around! A phone camera may not have very good IQ, but may produce very good PQ just because it’s easy to carry and unobtrusive to use. We all choose where we want to be between these two extremes.
“To pay something similar or maybe even more expensive just to get cool body but lower IQ and DR.”
You can say that for other cameras too, like D300s vs D7000 vs D5100. Then there’s the NEX-C3, which has (essentially) same sensor as the 5N, D7000 and K5 but cheaper; it will beat a bunch of cameras costing more based on IQ alone. But…
IQ is not the ultimate criterion in cameras!
I don’t know why some of you just don’t get it.
$1.1k body only was reported on this blog. The NEX7 is $1.2k, body only at B&H, although with no delivery date, which the E-M5 also lacks ;-).
Now, of course, I can’t get the lenses I want on Sony: the only wide angle is the decidedly non-stellar 16/2.8. For moderate wide there’s the stellar 24/1.8, which is even more expensive than the Olympus 12/2, while only offering a 1/3 stop more light.
In the end, as nice as the Sony sensor is, there’s no system there.
We all know Olympus´s financial problems at the moment, they need to make a quick few bucks and overcharging could a way to do it…
Overcharging doesn’t generate extra revenue if the market is too elastic.
“We all know Olympus´s financial problems at the moment, they need to make a quick few bucks and overcharging could a way to do it…”
Funny thing is, if its over priced, it will not sell. I think marketing people know this. They have a way round it, called, re-education through advertising. This is proof that it was over priced in the first place but marketing is unwilling to admit they got it wrong. If there is big advertising beyond the normal introduction phase, then yes you were right.
Yeah I’m thinking about that too. The price is a bit too high for me.
sorry but the difference in quality isn’t that big, because its only vivable if you watch the files 1:1 on your monitor because you sit so close on it. shrink any file from various various dslr formats to screenformat and you wont see any difference, except maybe for a subtle variation in DR. This is the same as printing the large files in wall format. you take a proper distance for view those wall prints and you or any expert can’t see which is better. This has actually been tested in practise and has been published a few years ago.
I haven’t used this camera (obviously) but I own E3, E5, EPL-2 and used an EP1 and EP2. The dynamic range is poor and it is obvious in images. Not a problem if you live somewhere where it is cloudy all the time, but a HUGE problem if you live somewhere where there is a clear, harsh sun beating down all the time.
Furthermore, the noise in the ISO200 images of the E5 and EPL2 is visible when printed large (the E3 at ISO100 has essentially none). These are technical issues that limit the use of photos taken by these cameras and it is very reasonable that people expect Olympus to do something about them. Olympus’ original justification of the 4/3 sensor size included the claim that sensor technology would rapidly improve, until the limiting factor would be optics (which they used to try to optimize). They were right, but they chose not to use the best of the improved sensors.
Please..dont break most of the m4/3 hearts with this statement. We still believe that m4/3 is more than enough to produce even a printable photographs instead just..ofcourse, posting them on facebook or flickr.
The different isn’t that big..at least if you see it in facebook. With the price of $1500, it isnt that much compare to Sony Nex5n or 7 or. If sony nex5n is comparabale to Canon 5dmk2 (especially in low light condition), Imagine what this camera with its tweaked pana g1x sensor can be comparable to. As you know panasonic g1x beats other aps-c compact cameras with its IQ and DR
@ Alan
“…and it is very reasonable that people expect Olympus to do something about them.”
That’s exactly what Olympus are doing. This camera gets a new sensor.
Alan, I live in Sydney. Except for the past week of rain, it is sunshine most of the time. I have an E30 and ep2 I don’t seem to have any problems taking photos and have great prints with no noise (I have even used 2 x A3 joined and seems fine)
Look at http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml as suggested by Archer Sully in his comment above.
@Ulli: Like this: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml
I’ll be buying it without the grip, I wonder what the rumored FL-600R flash will look like, hopefully small and with good bounce options.
wrong reply
If retro look is consistent the fl600 will look like the t32 OM-flash.
I wish my collection of t-32s would work, or would they?
The relative hight of the hump and hot shoe REALLY bothers me. Its like looking at a person with a MASSIVE nose. No matter how good looking they are generally and no matter how good they are at their job, you just cant get round that MASSIVE thing sticking out at you.
I want something that is sleek and subtle. If people see you shooting with this they are going to point and say what the hell is that massive thing sticking up!
Please for god sakes Olympus, make a last minute change to the design. I think I just couldn’t buy The EM-5 with that deformity. It needs to be reduced in hight by about 1/3rd, or at least 1/4th to look in proportion.
lol, sounds like a phallic phobia is going on with you.
Come to think of it, you’re right. This thing has a constant hard-on. It’s almost 1/3rd the height of the camera without grips.
Seriously, you need to hold the camera and see if your hands get to the buttons. A Hump will help that, as opposed to having a overall higher camera.
@Would-be
It’s not surprising that it bothers you even if you haven’t articulated why that is. Good design is largely about proportions and even subtle changes in proportion make designs degrade quickly.
An example: the Mini Clubman is much uglier than the regular Mini even when the design is much the same – the proportions have changed though, and there you are…
As someone with a massive nose, I would like to log my objection to would-be’s comment : )
Hmm. Doesn’t look as disproportional as I feared, but still…not sure why I wouldn’t go for a small DSLR at this point. Even without battery grip, pocketability doesn’t seem to be on the table anymore – especially given the hump in the middle with its clothing-catching hotshoe.
m43 is about the compromise between size and IQ. Not sure where on the compromise scale that this model lies. IQ average and larger than picket-sized. I think the X=Pro1 looks more attractive at this point.
Agreed. Without the hump I could have tolerated the size but this negates the reason I went to m43
To me m4/3 is about the sizes of the lenses. Look at the link to the polish website, the body really is teeny, at some point it’s too small to be ergonomic. I’d prefer a DSLR sized body, e.g. E-1, but with the smaller lenses afforded by m43, it makes it much more portable.
The small size of the body is likely why Olympus changed the physical interface to reduce the total number of buttons. I’m curious to see how they are going to accommodate the needs of the serious shooter with the minimal number of buttons they have.
It’s the same number of buttons as the E-P1. One more if you count the button on the side of the hump.
I dunno, Mark. There is a clear cutoff point in my mind size-wise. As soon as your camera body and attached lens don’t fit nicely in a pocket (and I’m not talking about bulging out of a large jacket pocket here), you are into camera bag territory.
A small camera bag is better than a large one, but when we get to the realm of talking relative camera bag sizes, the tradeoff against IQ (read larger sensor) becomes less clear cut to me.
To my non-expert eye, the EM-5 is starting to look quite like an EP3 with a VF-2 permanently nailed to the top of it. I am one of those guys that have been asking for an internal viewfinder from Day 1 – but I kind of had something in mind that was more “internal”.
A miniature Nikon D4 was not what I had in mind. Your mileage may vary.
I just came.
To much information.
^Lovely.
Thanks for sharing that. 🙁
Everything is very good is this configuration except unfortunately too things:
1) the sensor that has nothing exceptional (hoping for a good surprise but thinking there won’t be…)
2) the lens that is too slow (but there is the panas that are coming so it’s not a big problem…)
There will be a surprise there. Admin is wrong with his rumor.
Do you know something or speculating?
I don’t think that f/2 and f/1.8 are too slow. The kit zoom is another matter, but there are lots of circumstances where that sort of speed is fine. Its just a trade-off is all.
Archer Sully, I agree totally with you.
In the old days f2.8 was the line between fast and normal that went to about f5.6 and higher was slow. Most normal and 3rd party lenses were f2.0 to f4 many being around f3.5 There was a reason, faster than f2.0 was expensive, faster that $1.8 was prohibitive. While today’s spending power exceeds that of past times, the fact remains, lenses must be sold, if they cost to much they will not sell.
We see on this forum that there is no consensus over what should be offered as a lens, some want longer, some shorter, some faster, some smaller, some manual, some auto and on it goes. So the maker supplies a ‘normal’ kit lens. (Most users never go any further) and then makes a range of lenses to fit different markets and budgets. Oly make 3 grades of lens available for 4/3. The super high grade is very expensive and no matter how much some others want them as a standard kit lens it will simply not happen.
As you said “Its just a trade-off is all”.
Several interesting things.
– it looks really big until you look at the link to the polish website and see how teeny it really is. Glad they have the grip, otherwise it looks hard to hold for anyone with big hands.
– There seem to be two release buttons on dials on the top front of the camera, the front one must be part of the grip since that part of the camera isn’t in the previous AD photo.
– Clearly there is something a bit fake, look at the multiple lock dials on the back, where the grip attaches. Unless the grip is in multiple pieces, if you look at the polish photo, the camera doesn’t extend that far below the base of the lens, so there is something going on with the grip.
– The prism hump seems odd since the VF is fairly low. Is the pop up flash in there?
The grip is two grips! First is the hand grip (with its own shutter button) and second is the battery grip (with two fn buttons and shutter release). Seems like you have to put hand grip if you want battery grip.
That design makes perfectly sense. People with larger than a camera joshi’s hands and those with long fingers want the added grip for horizontal holding. Those who shoot often vertically, and those who need more juice, will want to add also the battery grip. I’m fine with all that.
Bingo! Two grips. I was waiting for someone to point that out. I hope they’re not twice the price of one ordinary one though.
imho..that polish guy needs really a bigger camera for his hands lol
The width of the E-M5 seems to be comparable to his moustache. Anyway, in a future movie, I can imagine a dialog like “Is that your E-M5, or are you just happy to see me”.
These two pictures are the non-grip versions. One is black. The other is silver. What do you think?
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/e_p1/imgs/6/2/62e0ff85.jpg
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/e_p1/imgs/e/d/ed48d6a7.jpg
Silver looks so 1970s, that would be the one for me. I guess they succeeded in the retro look. Now it is whats under the hood. I think they will sell a lot of these. So much for the idea that Olympus can only make little bricks, and all Olympus m43 are just one camera.
cheers Richard thought the one on 4/3 looked AWFUL these look much nicer. is it me but black lens on silver body would look much nicer….
Too much grip
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6800658863_6cac7c5d93_o.jpg
Silver for me.
silver … yummy 😀
The silver looks better to me, but that may be because it is very similar to the OM-1 I used to own. The camera design is very nice – just wonders why the famous hump is that high.
Flash and mic. only, and also EVF.
Silver for me thanks.
I think the chrome version looks a lot better simply because the contrast with black body parts help to break up the height of the hump to make it less objectionable. Based on pictures previously released of the above I believe the hotshoe and box under it are removeable in order to use the pop up flash hidden under the bonnet. I think I like this version if the IBIS has been improved to work well at all speeds and if the E-D5 is able to track fast moving objects much faster.
I think the E-D5 would look better with a small prime attached like the 20/1.7 or even the small Xlens rather than the longer bigger kit lens. The Pany current X lenses would be a nice fit even if not waterproofed as would either of the coming faster Pany X lenses which reportedly will also be weatherproofed.
Nice pix. What a bugger! All my filters are 56 and 72mm, tell them I want the filter size changed on the 17mm
Good job. Now, make a black one with black 12mm lens ;).
Wow that camera looks great! Can’t believe they added the grip, it’s perfect for portrait photographers. I am definitely buying this camera.
For the comment about pocket ability…do you really think a “pro” camera would fit in anyone’s pocket? If you need that buy an e-pm1 or even better a compact like an xz-1. People need to get real! This is the camera that everyone has been complaining for since m4/3 began and no there are still people complaining. The size/weight advantage still exist. Show me a canon t3i with grip and any lens…still a lot bigger and heavier. I fit my e-p1 with 14mm, 20mm, 45mm, 100-300mm and fl300r flash in the Olympus MINI backpack. How’s that for size advantage!
Yeah, people who are complaining about size really don’t get it. The target audience for a camera like this is for photographers who will be using high quality glass. Those lenses also kill the ability to tuck it away in a pocket.
All that I care about beyond the features that seem to be part of the EM-5 is how fast it will focus SWD glass. Weatherproofing and PDAF are what will seal the deal for me.
I think this camera may be more of a bridge camera than an E-5 replacement. It may be the first camera that is as small as an MFT camera but as performant as the E-5. As such, it could do well in a coat pocket (MFT glass) and in pro sessions (43 glass). It may truly bridge the gap.
But I think we may be getting a little ahead of ourselves until we find out for sure that it fully supports PDAF for 43 glass. (Fingers crossed.)
Maybe we can say the E-M5 is so modular camera to Olympus will be.
What’s this about people carrying their cameras, other than compacts, in coat pockets? What else is in those pockets? Maybe a dead rat and a string to swing it with, Huck? 😉
iPad 2, keyboard (folding, for iPhone/iPad), lens cloth, pen, reading book, et al.. Do NOT make fun of my coat pockets.
Great travel et al. clothing: http://www.scottevest.com/ 🙂
Dead cat, not rat. As in “you can’t swing a dead cat in this forum without hitting a Sony troll.”
But isnt t3i has the aps-c sensor with miror instead of mirrorless micro4/3 ? The reason why m4/3 sensor exist is to enable some reduction for the size of the camera to be more compact and perfect for walkaround and travelling cameras and hoping that the IQ wont be too much degraded from the biger sensor cameras.
IHUR,
Go walk about, take the e-PM1 for pocket fit, take the E-M5 for hand held and neck, take the E-M5 +grip for larger lenses and heavy duty. All the E-M5 lenses will fit the E-PM1 so it is just part of a system. Funny I heard the word ‘system’ used somewhere else , now where was it…..?
HUMP HUMP HUMP HUMP
Size, without the fake grip and battery grip isn’t very big but the style looks like a shrunk Nikon F3. A bit toyish I have to say.
We will have to hold it, to see that. It should feel well build with the cast magnesium frame. Then there is the sound of the shutter, that should be more subdued then other m43s. The feel and sound will make it not toy like, but jewel like.
A Nikon F3 is a toy camera?
In fact the F3 may well be one of the manliest cameras ever.
I believe my F2 with the Photomic AS finder, or even the sports finder, and MD-2 motor drive is the manliest camera I own. You can pound nails into hardwood with that beast. 😛
Nails? No, they all look like that.
I don’t mind toyish. That’s why I like my red GF2. Nobody takes it seriously, and it takes fantastic photos. I just need something faster. I can’t wait for the E-M5 reviews. I’m really hoping this is the camera I have been waiting for. Well, I’ll take 90% of what I’m looking for…None of these comapnies make exactly what you want…LOL
It has the same buttons as the E-P1, except that the AEL/AFL button is missing. But this can probably be programmed to the Fn2-button that replaces the useless +/- button. And then it adds the video trigger button, which might be programmable too.
Yes so we can use button by red point in still photo.
This is a render because the silver one, blurred in the leak, is at the same angle and of course the lens is photoshoped. Try to put the silver e-m5 image on top this new (same sizes) and you will see that both fits… but there is a little difference. In the silver e-m5 image the black part above the viewfinder is misplaced or moved or rotated. Don’t know but maybe this image has the flash.
Your server was kneeling there for a moment, admin. No wonder.
By the way, what do the external grips do apart from make it grippier?
Isn’t that enough?
Does “grippier” include improved ergonomics in your assessment, or do you mean literally only “grippier”? What about added space for extra juice?
Grips make it easier to hold cameras with heavier lens and flashes mounted. Some people find a camera with a deeper grip easier to hold, some prefer a thinner camera (think E-P3 vs. E-PM1).
If you mean the bottom battery compartment, as opposed to the side grip, it offers three advantages. The first is that it typically takes 2 batteries, so you can shoot twice as long before changing batteries. The second is it changes the position of the battery door from underneath the camera, to the back, so that you can change batteries when the camera is mounted on a tripod/monopod/etc. without taking the camera off its mount. The third option is the second shutter buttons, control wheel, and other buttons on the bottom of the camera, which is convenient when you are shooting in portrait orientation a lot.
While I dislike grips for handheld shooting, I did buy the HLD-4 for my steampunk setup, so I could get a longer runtime, and be able to change the batteries without tipping the gear over. After using it, I discovered that the bottom shutter release was also handy, after I broke some of the RM-CB1 cables (my icon picture shows an earlier version of the camera).
Ok, EP-3 is more beautiful.
Yes it is more beautiful, but this is more handsome.
Is it just me or does the screen look like it will tilt?
On a side note, I really hope the IQ of this camera impresses because in every other way it reminds me of my beloved C-8080.
Also, please please PLEASE Olympus stop it with the silver lenses (or produce black versions as well). I know it is only a cosmetic issue and doesn’t change the quality of the lens, but I will freely admit that the cosmetics are part of the package for me and silver lenses on black bodies look pretty awful.
+1000 waiting for a black 45 mm 1.8
+1
I want the silver body, but I bet they ship the silver 12-50mm with it. Ack, black lenses only please.
Also prefer black lenses here, especially if the silver version is just plastic anyway.
Wow fantastic! This camera will be a joy to use! I like the fact that they include a grip : my 12-60 and 7-14 will be easier to use with it, cool!
Now, fingers crossed : a new sensor (not the GX1) and fast AF with 4/3 lenses… hope, hope, hope,…
Nothing wrong with the GX1 sensor if Olympus implements it well.
It’s not wrong but it’s “just ok.” At that point it depends on the asking price. Price it too high and it becomes not ok.
Why did they keep the hot shoe accessory port? Looks like it adds lots of unnecessary height/bulkiness.
So photographers can use accessories that require a hot shoe?
Which Olympus accessories do you use? The camera already has an EVF and flashes don’t require an accessory port.
It’s not necessarily about what accessories exist today. It could be there for future accessories.
I don’t make purchases based on what might be available in the future. If I did, I’d have an NEX.
Designers have to build cameras with an eye to the future rather than be locked into the past. And I do make purchases based on what might be available. I want to invest in a system that is forward looking, and I really don’t care about the cosmetics. Many here seem more concerned with how a camera looks than with how the pictures that the camera takes look. I want to take pictures. If this is the best camera for me, I’m going to buy it and never lose a minutes sleep about the pseudo-penta prism.
Good point. I’m going to preorder the NEX-7. Those pancakes will be available eventually!
Someone thought there should be an accessory port, and someone signed off on the idea. If those extra few mm in height bother you, you must be looking for something to dislike.
Someone may want to add a more powerful flash.
Carlos the hot shoe will take care of any flash (except a pen dedicated one), an accessory port (if it is one) would be for other things but what could be used there without blocking the viewfinder? maybe a live view PC output adapter?
Perhaps an external microphone.
Connection for remote shutter release.
Some sort of shoot-by-wire system. 😛
So this is how the E-5 is the last Oly DSLR
Do not think so. There will be another.
This e-m5 is to replace the e-xx series. Some of still like through the lens optic viewfinders that are bright. Sorry evf are not there yet, cheaper DSLRs with the lack of prism etc. are not there, and even the much talked about x100 is not there.
I’d like a E-M5 here even if the EVF isn’t there yet.
Could be that there is one last E-7 with Pana G3 sensor, and after that the Pen Pro (a step up from the EM-5) with a possibility to focus 43 lenses wuickly and correctly – probably on sensor pdaf. But I guess all depends on Oly’s success, so they can invest more money in R&D
Nice stuff but to expensive if Olympus is expecting a come back I might just wait the price of the after 2012 christmas rebate,very good product anyway,and a lot smarter than telemetric lookalike camera for snob people : good job Olympus!
If you look closely you can see there are TWO grips on the camera. One is a large horizontal grip and one is a portrait grip. That is why there are two lock buttons on the back. You can see the body of the camera itself ends and the very edge of the screen. You’ll also notice there is a flash housing in the hump. It’s noticeable from the front and rear. It swings open like on an e-620.
Without the grip(s):
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/moviemonster6/back-no-grip.jpg
It can’t open like on a e-620, since the angle of the hump is much steeper. Simply doesn’t work.
Olympus have tweaking on flash to, well i think whole hump cover come forward and up.
The lens in this image is entirely fake, certainly not an actual mounted 12-50mm. As others mentioned the linked silver and black renders posted are fake as well. I can’t wait for a real image of the final cam, no extra grip w/ 45 1.8 mounted
I find the fact that the screen is 3:2 quite interesting. Maybe it is a multi aspect ratio sensor like the GH2 after all …
A multi ascpect ratio sensor would be really cool! Most pros shoot 3:2, I do as well. On a 4:3 sensor set to 3:2, the 9-18mm is probably just not wide angle enough for me. Love my GH1 apart from the fact that it likes to blow out highlights.
Most pros shoot 4:3 when in medium format and 5:4 when in large format. 3:2 is actually too wide. Anyone who ever spent time in a dark room knows what I’m talking about.
Ever talked to a fashion / people photographer???
The silver version looks much nicer.This tilting screen ,like the epl3, will be much easier to use than the swing out version on my G3.They are really only ever used to shoot high or low anyway.
A tweaked GX1/G3 sensor will be a big improvement over Olys old one.The size of this body is the same as an EP-3, plus the hump.Very small.Not pocketable? Why would I want to try and shove it into a pocket?The price,at $1200, is $500 cheaper than the new Fuji.We all have lenses,both native and legacy, that will snap onto this body.The Fuji requires a whole new investment in lenses at $600 a piece.
For me, the question is,what will I get here that I don’t already have with my Panasonic G3,other than a more attractive body.
That’s disappointing.
It’s not a continuation of the function over form OM series, its at best a caricature.
Menu, preview and delete thumb accessible while shooting. Thumb wheel far from thumb rest. Sounds like it was made for photographers, by photographers.
Unneeded hump(Or is all that height necessary just for the accessory port?).
I was excited by this camera, not any more. Hope Olympus hires a few more engineers and photographers, and fire some marketing people.
‘not a continuation of the function over form’ SERIOUSLY !!???
Yes.
At least it’s not form over function
Really? This looks very form over function to me. Or do you suppose the hump(on this) was a result of a technical solution.
Only reason I can think of to not put the delete button over on the left side, and replace it with a another fn(or ISO, or DOF or…) on the right, would be looks(form).
Original OMs: all function.
I think the hump is neccessary for the Olympus accessory port. You could argue that it’s not really needed when the camera has the built in EVF, but Olympus has quite a few other accessories that use the port.
Btw, I don’t agree that the original OMs were all function. Olympus made the OMs really small, but clearly sacrificed some fuctionality to achieve that goal. The OMs were pretty good, but not at the same level as the best Canons and Nikons at the time.
Lol – my guess is you weren’t alive then!
Alive and using SLRs, chose Canon over OM. Turned out to be a pretty good decision.
Man you really don’t have a clue do you.
I think this will be my next cam. Even if the price is a little high, I hope most of my wishes come true:
bigger battery : seems to be possible without a bigger grip
better handling with bigger grip: possible
the overall design seems to be very nobel
the lcd is tiltable
perhaps the EVF is tiltable, and I hope for a little better EVF than the VF2…
and: I hope and think it will be a cam with a “soul”, an item which you like to take in your hand to shoot photos ( that´s perhaps the most difficult thing to design .. ), and then I don´t care if the body costs 300-500.- € more than an other body with perhaps better specs but without this “soul”..
The sensor: I´m happy with the sensor in my GH2, all photos I want to shoot can be done with this one;
if the sensor is as good as in the GH2, it`s perfect for me….
I’m at a loss for words. I find this neither retro nor attractive. Too many of you are caught up in the marketing hype to think clearly. The Gh2 looks much more attractive than this clunky, boxy camera. $1200 for a m43 without the lens? So hypocritical! The indignant comments about the X100 costing $1200 (with lens) or the Nex-7 for the same price. Now, you all are fawning over another DSLR form factor m43 when the GH2 already exist, all for $1200. Gullible. Marketers love you guys.
The prices will cool down. No one has put a cent towards the camera.
The handgrip is worth about 150 (add your currency). It is quite small despite the SLR looks.
Now let us see what “OMG” means. May be it is really cool, packed with features.
Dear sir,
Beauty is a subjective matter…
“Now, you all are fawning over another DSLR form factor m43 when the GH2 already exist, all for $1200. Gullible.”
I don’t think I’m being gullible. I own a GH2. It’s great. I use it a lot and I’m very satisfied with its handling, performance, and the quality of the pictures (and video) I get with it.
But there have been many times I wished that it had in-body stabilization and wireless TTL flash. I don’t think Panasonic ever will offer either of those features — they’re committed to in-lens stabilization, and I suspect they can’t get the rights to use the patents covering wireless TTL. Previous Olympus models have offered those features, but they didn’t have an EVF, which is a must-have for me.
So, the EM-5 is a camera with an EVF and with overall layout and controls similar to the GH2, plus the flash and stabilization features of other Olympus models. And (unlike the NEXies or the new “it camera” from Fuji) it will work with the lenses I already own.
Basically that’s exactly what I had wanted, so I suppose I really ought to buy one!… although I would also keep the GH2, of course…
note that EM-5 sensor will probably be worse than GH2 one as G3/GX1 sensor is worse…
Wrong.
Quite confident… stimmt das?
stimmer, your comments have got my curiosity up. Are you saying that this isn’t a tweaked GX1 sensor?
I would say he’s probably right 🙂
I think the E-M5 looks very attractive, much more than the mini/fake-DSLR styling of the GH2. Besides this isn’t exactly a DSLR form factor, it’s just SLR styled.
I love all the zealous GH2 owners who are trying to vehemently defend their camera as still being the best m4/3 camera out there. Sorry, but you should have realized that a new/better camera would eventually be released. Also, don’t worry, the GH2 will still be a great camera after the E-M5 is released.
Calxn,
The GH2 does not have ibis, nor Oly lenses. Nor Oly name.
Weird, looks almost as though the evf is fused with the tilt screen.
Don’t really see how you can tilt out the screen without the evf coming along. Could it be supposed to?
Looks designed by committee, so boring.
It’s funny that the Pentax KO1 will have way better picture quality than this over priced junk, and that’s aimed at kids.
Cat goes splat.
The KO1 looks like something a cow left in a field, yes cow pat that’s the name, watch where you tread or you will go splat.
I am pretty excited about this camera. Olympus build quality and weather proofing is top notch.
As much as I want PDAF for the HG & SHG Zuiko 4/3 lenses, I am trying to not get my hopes up.
With film SLRs, especially the OM’s I preferred the silver ones. They didn’t mark up so much, or at least it wasn’t so clear. The coating of modern black cameras seems a bit tougher though, so it isn’t so much of a problem.
This camera looks great to me! Yes, the bump is a bump, but if there is some good functional reason for it (good EVF, flash, hotshoe, maybe some other connector) then I don’t mind. Weather-sealed, built-in-body advanced stabilisation, tilting screen, up-to-date sensor, fast AF, image quality etc are the main points for me – so unless some really disturbing problem about this camera should come up, this is a 100% item on my buying list!
fuck you fucking fuckers and haters, this camera rox the crap out of your consumer toy gadget collection, landmark oly, landing-stripe-mark
haha, I pictured you frothing at the mouth as you typed this, restrained in a special chair that keeps you from hurting yourself or others. Was I close at all?
Admin – any word on UW housing for this?
donate for admin, you bunch of lumix and sony lumps and whimps
I’ve just put a post on my blog with a picture as to how I think it might be possible to have the camera in 3 different configurations.
Basic Camera
Camera + Grip
Camera + Grip + Battery Compartment
nice if it turns out that way.
http://soundimageplus.blogspot.com/2012/02/two-more-om-d-images.html
David, I think the bottom plate shown on the with grip is the top of the bottom grip, I may be wrong but that is what it looks like to me as it breaks up the design lines on the front.
kneel down unwashed uncultivated garbage,
the king is around the corner, fuji was
quiet for 5 years and has undressed its underpants, showing
his ass towards competition
PRO X ONE FROM MOUNT FUJI
I wonder if it auto focuses. I wonder if it sucks in rain water, like the x100. I wonder if its viewfinder is like the x100, while interesting, not practical in a lot of situations or usable for some eyeglass users (no dipole adjustment). I wonder if the it make lovely white orbs like the x100. I wonder if they will make more then three prime lens or any zoom lens for it. I wonder if they will drop it in two or three years.
Mostly, I wonder if Camerageek will get a life, or at least new material,
The Fuji might be interesting if had either decent auto focus, or decent manual focus.
Camerageek might be interesting if… oh gee, I can’t even think what’s required for that alternate reality.
The remaining info that now needs to be leaked is about IQ in general and dynamic range specificly: Which tweak technology leading to improvement of x with y%.
In almost all other aspects this camera is a clear step forward for Oly and also for m43.
Get back to us when Fuji has a weather sealed body, as well as a complete weather sealed lens lineup.
This was meant for camerageek
Plus what’s in the hump / what’s special with the EVF.
Is this a real picture or someones vivid, distorted imagination?
The faux pentaprism just makes the camera look massive!
E-M5 pics without grip from DPreview:
http://www.kineda.com/olympus-om-d-e-m5-camera-leaked-photos/
Those are photoshopped form these images, that’s not what the grip looks like, and the silver/chrome version will not be this reflective.
Well, what to say. This camera is butt ugly. The small previews looked nice, but not this… It better be a good cam for me too buy it.
The camera seems fine but I don’t understand why such a huge view finder? It looks awful to me…
I’ve became addicted to the Pen series, if only the external viewfinder could be a bit smaller and with a new sensor of course.
Okay, after seeing the dpreview leak pix, I think I’ve figured out the “hump” thing. We know the new EVF has the same basic specs as the VF-2, which is housed in a rectangular “breadbox.” The leaked pix show a basic body that looks to be not much larger than a Pen.
So it’s easy to follow the designers’ thought process: “Okay, we need to make the body just a bit bigger than the Pen to fit in the weather seals, the 5-axis stabilizer, etc. Now, all we need to do is graft the VF-2 onto the top… oh, wait, that’s kind of ugly. How about if we slope the sides in just a bit so it doesn’t look so bulky…?”
wonderful, wonderful, look at it, wonderful…
fantastic black beauty
no logo hyperbole all over the body
screams pro
stellar build
godly interface
where can I preorder it?
I’m surprise so many people seem to have an issue with the camera’s size or the ability to add a grip. Don’t like it, don’t buy it. I like having lots of options in the m4/3 format. I use both a GH1 and a GF1 and like being able to use the same lenses with both. Can’t do the same with the NEX or Nikon 1 system.
I’ve never had much interest in Oly products, but I’m certainly going to take a look at this.
Couldn’t agree more, the options (if they are happening) are great. Lots of different ways to set it up for different situations.
Maybe I’ll buy two!!
+1! My sentiments exactly. Choice is good, and so is not having to buy a whole new collection of lenses.
Merry me!
You can surely do that with the other systems as well as they also sell half blind (ie., no integrated EVF, optional EVF, integrated EVF) cameras.
Plenty of choices! 😉
I am interested but I must be able to use my 12-60 and 9-18 4/3 lenses fully If they work the same as they do on my ep2 then I will stay with the ep2 and e30..
Without grip and battery it looks great!
WOW – Olympus E-M5 – state of the art!
This will be a bestseller!
I will certainly preorder
– The OM-D E-M5 camera body (black)
– The 12-50mm m.Zuiko powerzoom (black)
– The OM-D HLD-6 external battery grip
Perhaps, the new Olympus flash FL 600-R
This camera will take the pole position in the Micro Four Thirds Camp.
PS.: It will be only the second lightweight and compact camera for Nikon and Canon Enthusiasts.
A camera that Canikons will firstly use outside the photo studio, on holidays, for street photography, on a walk, at the sea … – summarized for only 98 % of their stills and videos – but not for their really serious 2 % professional stuff.
Paulus,
“PS.: It will be only the second lightweight and compact camera for Nikon and Canon Enthusiasts.
A camera that Canikons will firstly use outside the photo studio, on holidays, for street photography, on a walk, at the sea … – summarized for only 98 % of their stills and videos – but not for their really serious 2 % professional stuff.”
Olympus would be exceedingly happy with that as a result of this camera. Just read the blogs many Pros have done so, if that extended then “Happy Oly”
I hope the performance and features of this camera kicks ass and I don’t have any beef with a larger m43 form factor camera (I owned a GH1 and own a GH2), but why is the hump in the middle so tall? It isn’t the viewfinder causing that massive height and it isn’t the hotshoe. What is there that is taking up that extra height?
+1 There must be a hidden mystery – probably you can remove the hot shoe if you do not use a flash – my 32 years old OM-1 has this feature too!
Second possibility: there is an additional earphone output and an external microphone input for HD-video behind the “black sesam”
Third possibility: Hides an accessory-port for all additional modules – for example GPS-module, communication tools, MAL-1 Makro Arm Light, SEMA-1, PENPAL PP-1 and so on.
Maybe that hump houses a tiny fairy that will make all your wishes come true. ;-P
This thread will hit 1000
A HUMP ONLY A MOTHER COULD LOVE
Reminds me of one of those awful boxy Japanese cars from the 70’s
It’s a really nice looking camera except for the unnecessarily tall hump (as hundreds of others have said). Still, even with the hump, it’s much more attractive than the stupid Panasonic mini-dSLRS.
You all asked for a hump. Now you have one.
What s all that hump fixation? The hump is there for a reason. You ll see in a few days, dont forget to take your heartpills before
Wat
Don’t pretend you know more tahn everybody else!
I am surprised people are complaining about the “hump.” the EVF has to go somewhere. I am not sure people realize how small this camera really is.
Because you can see exactly how much height the EVF is taking and hot much extra height is NOT being taken up by the EVF.
You just don’t know what’s inside the hump. The smaller the camera, the larger the hump looks. Would you prefer if the body had been made an inch taller (See Fuji X-Pro 1)?
I didn’t say I knew what is in the hump but I can see exactly where the top of the EVF ends and the hump extends a large distance above that.
time will tell, hump could be the pop up flash, could be that the EVF display is bigger than the viewfinder port. I’ll take a large EVF + nice flash (and prefer it’s bounce-able), all that’s more important than any hump issues. If you look at the link to the polish image, the body thing really is teeny.
Eh, the EVF could actually take more than the opening you put your eye on. It could very well have an accessory port.
I’m not thrilled about the massive hump; to me a brick shape (with necessary grip) is more usable in the sense of (1) less problems with getting hooked in other gear/clothes/etc., and (2) looks more anonymous for street photography, etc. The idea of having a hump just for nostalgic reasons is pure insanity, in my view. I do expect Olympus designers to be sane people, and thus do expect a good reason for the size of the hump (as opposed to the NEX-7), and I do expect the hump to be solid and able to endure some bumps, etc.
So — I look forward to see the released camera and study the specs/read the reviews.
At last we have a decent sized camera. If they had built the grip in it would have sold better.
No, the grip must be an option, many want the smaller style. With the grips, the camera can physically grow to suit the usage and lenses used.
The useage of the grip and battery grip would make no sense at all with small micro 4/3 lenses.
So this could mean one thing only: E-M5 will focus zuiko 4/3rds glass.
Design looks great. Spec’s are great. If performance is on par this cam rocks and I’ll get one asap.
Not necessarily (on 4/3rds glass). The grip makes sense if this camera is to be used in a professional capacity – namely battery life, and better “hold” ergonomics.
Melvin, you must have tiny hands. I much prefer the E-1 to the E420. from a usability point of view. m4/3 is about small lenses. I think the 2 grip design is brilliant. Those who want a small camera can have it, those of us who want something more to hold onto, can have it. Since the regular grip adds another trigger and dial, hope you can program to use the two for different purposes.
Mark I think you misunderstood Melvin, he is saying that to offer a grip there must be the need to better balance some lenses, and has ( like me) assumed that means for 4/3 lens use hence his second paragraph.
I agree with you about the 2 grip design, I have made the same comments on this site to that regard.
I can’t believe I see some complaints about the grip! The grip is optional folks! It’s for a full day of wedding photography where you need the battery and having portrait orientation is good *as an option*.
+1 it’s a plus for people and fashion photographers as well.
I hope this means that the price of the EP3 will drop 🙂
It just gets better. Back in the days when I was using Olympus OM1N and OM4Ti it was nice to have the option of fitting a winder for the ergonomics or leaving it off to pocket the camera. Same with Nikons – my FM2n with or without its MD12 filled different rolls, much more versatile (size wise) than the F5. Choices are good!
Hopefully this OMD-EM5-TBCE has the same screen touch-to-focus-and snap feature that the E-P3 has…
I’ll be able to snap pics with my pointy nose when looking through the contrived HUMP. 😀
And suddenly the GH2 starts to grow on me. With its function over style and the snug, humble, no-nonsense curves, it now looks so RETRO!
Even more importantly, I’m sure that old chap will still trump this awkward Oly on most accounts except for the obvious extensibility feats.
I can’t wait to learn what’s inside that huge hump.
“no-nonsense curves…..I can’t wait to learn what’s inside that huge hump.” should we be censoring this?
It’s looks really stunning. But seeing the size of it, it’s too tiny for me. I still like OM-1, OM-40,E-420, or E-620 size so I think I’ll be sticking with my OM-1 and E-620. FourThirds still has better lenses, IMHO.
But who cares about what I think. As long as it’s a success I’m happy.
Oliver, I’m with you. We need quality equivalent to the 12-60 + 50-200. Perhaps in the new Panny X, but the ranges aren’t as useful. I know some people like primes, but all these primes for m43 are just overkill without the basics covered.
Thanks, Mark! Even though there’s a Micro FourThirds version of the 25mm Summilux, the FourThirds version is still better. M43 lenses just have more compromises in order to project light on the sensor with a shorter flange distance. So I guess if they come up with a FourThirds version of the Zuiko 12mm f/2, it would be sharper than the Micro FourThirds version.
Sadly, I don’t think the Lumix X lenses will be able to win against their 43 Zuiko counterparts.
It’s a G3 one year too late.
“It’s a G3 one year too late.”
No, it’s G2 two years too late.
Maybe the hot shoe is detachable???
BUTT UGLY…….
@G.W. Bush
less of the personal statements, what about the camera?
Looks 100,000 times better than your mom’s face!
Admin, you should have resized that Polish photo and linked it in this post…
People still think this camera is big and has a huge hump. It’s not – it’s basically the same size as the E-P3 and the “horrible” hump is roughly 2 cm tall. It may look big, but it really isn’t. The camera is very, very, very small. It will fit in the palm of a child’s hand.
small = clunky controlls…..
design = fugly as hell…..
The pentaprism hump seems awfully aggressive. Less pointy, please- especially since there is no need for that form!
The overly aggressive design of the OM-D makes you feel uncomfortable? 😀
Please, can we get a finder in the shape of a boob over here?
A camera is a hunting tool. It better be aggressive looking,even if that violates the sensitivities of the modern, neutered male. 😉
There just has to be a flash under there.
It seems to house both the flash and the accessory hotshoe port.
It does: look at the arrow symbol on the hump, near the central wheel, on http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1893/em5back.jpg .
That symbol doesn’t look like an arrow, it looks like a port symbol… I assume indicating that the accessory port is beneath the cover.
Don’t look in the marked area ( it’s not me that made the picture ), look under it and the sign on the sloped side cover of the hump.
the bit on the back of the hotshoe pulls back and the flash comes up,hidden under the hotshoe..the other pic showed it pulled out a bit.so the hump gets even Bigger!or maybe the new XZ2 is hidden there when you need a pocket cam..
Very happy for those who like this style of camera, with humps and bumps and bulges everywhere.
Oly, if you could put the viewfinder on the left, the hot shoe in the middle, and have the dials coming out of the back and front of the camera, you could give the camera a much lower profile. you might even have room for a pop up flash too.
Really interested to see where the Pen 4 range will go, after this.
But the dials will be much higher and you will have to have your hands over your eyes to work it. There are good reasons to have the viewfinder where it is, besides nostalgia. I also think eventually it will be needed for an advance focusing system that Olympus is developing. and has patents for.
I guess so.
One of the key reasons is to allocate the space for their latest patent focusing system, which may be not implemented in EM-5 yet.
In a few more years, that might come as a E-SP or E-Trip. So look for it.
And where is the TLR style of Digital OlympusFlex? Maybe will be called the ElympusFlex? I also want an Elympus Six Chrome, EXA, and perhaps the E-system revived to be called the EE system, which is basically a E-5 with a selenium light meter all around the body, that is called the Electronic Eyes.
Amazing!!
Either the person on the picture of the polish forum is big or the camera is pretty small.
Since the camera is blurred I’m not sure if it’s the real e-m5 or just photoshopped.
There really is a picture of a blurred camera on a polish forum! What the?
1984 wants its camera back. That think looks too sharp to hold.
Well you can put on a grip like so E-P3 on the old OM-2sp, OM-3 and OM-4.
Once you hit 1/8800 you’ll be sent back Marty. “Heavy“.
Just putting something out there (a remote possibility at best).
What if the truncated ovoid part at the front of the camera, and just behind the lens, could be a four thirds adapter, with some sort of focus assistance built in.
Now, if the hump was also removable, OM-D could stand for Olympus Modular Digital.
Unlikely in a small camera body, I know…
Made a size comparison to the G3 based off the height of the viewable screen areas. Obviously a little skewed due to perspective of the E-M5 image, but gives a rough idea.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2urw7zo.jpg
I don’t think it’s correct…
Retry using the hot shoe wich MUST be the same.
Measured the inside of the metal connector of the hot shoe, 65 pixels for the G3, 61 for the E-M5. Which should be about right considering the E-M5 is at an angle which will make the front width of the connector shorter than when straight on like with the G3. Again, this isn’t anything exact, but a rough idea.
Yes, that should be about right.
The camera is more or less the size of the G3… the body itself could be a few milimeters shorter but the oversized hump makes up for it. It is clearly smaller than the GH2 when used without the grips.
The G3 is the better looking camera IMO.
The traditional penta-prism hub for the hotshoe look like a removable module by pressing the triangular button just on top of the right hand corner of the EVF! LOL! Possible for future accessories such as Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS module? LOL!
You keep using LOL. I do not think it means what you think it means.
I like this camera. I started photography with an OM-1 in 1976 then came an OM-2n and in 1989 came an OM-4T. The E-M5 will be a beautiful
Same for me. Absolutely agree
I like this camera. I started photography with an OM-1 in 1976 then came an OM-2n and in 1989 came an OM-4T. The E-M5 will be a beautiful continuation. Today I have an E5 and an E-P3 and I’m very happy with them. I bet the E-M5 will be a much better camera than both
I like this camera. I started photography with an OM-1 in 1976 then came an OM-2n and in 1989 came an OM-4T. The E-M5 will be a beautiful continuation. Today I have an E5 and an E-P3 and I’m very happy with them. I bet the E-M5 will be a much better camera than both.
Sorry, I was writing from my iPhone and the publish button is so close to the text that when I make corrections I hit it inadvertently.
I guess you like this camera! LOL!
Get a BIGGER iphone.
They should make an iPhone with EVF on the left and blackberry keys, real keys and dials. I think photographers like this sort of phone instead.
For those who missed it- there are two grips chained here. The camera is much smaller.
That lens totally looks like it’s been photoshopped into the picture.
Honestly… I am healed now. Yes it is retro but kinda boring and totaly meh.
I am really happy with the modular battery/grip…..it made my day
Yes! I think Oly made the grips very big, so when you remove they, the camera looks like it was a micro43 camera.
Yes! The modular concept is fine! In the same conception the EVF could be modular too [call it EVF 5], and we could put it on the grip too.
Maybe they should make two humps, that house two EVF. So that it looks like binoculars but if the gap in the middle for the nose to fit it. Perfect!!
Don’t know why I am starting to be sarcastic. But I am excited for the look for the camera and also that this rumour got more than 600+ responses!!
Almost 700 as we write 🙂
Do they get the same amount of responses on fora for competing cameras? 🙂
Maybe that hump is a tribute to Fuji, mount. Form follows function symbolically.
Then the Fuji x pro should have a hump too. Afterall Fuji is named as the mountain.
as i say over and over again -the pyramid look terrible! my goodness!
Do you often have the tendency to repeat yourself?
I saw some photos from Egypt, I think the pyramids are beautiful and mysterious as well. Lol
My thoughts on leaked pics.
1. If there’s popup flash, where’s flash popup button/switch ?
2. Where’s LCD/EVF switching button ? You can’t rely on only eye sensor.
If we need to program this function to one of Fn button then it’s very poor design.
(There’s something on the right side of VF which should be diopter adjust knob)
3. One Million dollars question, what is in the hump ???
It’s too big for just VF + popup flash, and EVF don’t need prism or mirror. Oh…wait…
Hmm… doesn’t look like there’s anything “in” the hump at all to me. Unless it opens right under the “Olympus” like a third eye. But I’d bet on no built in flash. Unless that was already mentioned in the specs, and then I have no answer. =D
Compare it to the back of the E-5 – it seems to be a shrunk E-5…
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse5/page2.asp
The Hump is big because the camera is tiny – it may have to pop vertically a bit to raise the flash clear. The accessory port under the accessory mount adds still further height. Think higher VF2 on E-PL3. Although one hopes there might be a surprise under there as well.
Yes! the camera is very small, just see it in his hand that Polish guy. So, they put the hump, to let it bigger.
either that or the Polish guy is like really really big
I think he is 10 feet tall.
a tiny camera for a tiny sensor.
a fuking ugly design for retarded customers.
i pass on this one olympus….
@G.W. Bush
Why are you here and why do you keep changing your name?
Bush you’re a tiny brained self loathing twat.
I was also looking for the flash switch and couldn’t see one. Maybe that greyish part on the right side just under the hotshoe? Or it could be on the left side of the EVF, since we can’t see that in the rear view.
The switch for the LCD/EVF looks like it’s on the right hand side of the EVF, facing towards the right. You can see the little white square there… The diopter could be just above it? (very small wheel?).
I would like it if the giant hump was removable (take off the pop-up flash, hot-shoe and just leave an accessory port?). But there would have to be another ‘Olympus’ label underneath… 🙂
All-in-all, I like the OM-D though. Looks like it means business.
“flash switch … it could be on the left side of the EVF, since we can’t see that in the rear view.”
I suppose it’s there, or it’s raised manually – one more retro touch ;).
“it seems to be a shrunk E-5”
Yes, but I think this is E-620 successor.
Ok. Can we have a weathersealed e-p4 now? :p
and Pany bust out the fast zooms!
the first image looks FAKE.
there is no ambient occlusion between the lens and body, just like a collage.
my 2 cents.
Won’t be surprised if that hump is actually part of the removable EVF and Olympus will sell it separately at a hefty price.
What’s with the 2 locks? It looks like you can take off the B grip and then one extra piece?
Yeah, I was wondering about that too
One lock must be for the grip and one lock for the battery compartment. I think you can buy just the grip to use with the camera for stability and ad the battery compartment if you want to operate with extra battery power, too. It’s modular.
It looks cool; certainly reminiscent of the original OM cameras (which is good!), but the real litmus test will be image quality. If the new sensor provides dynamic range and definition as good as, or better than, its competitors then it should be quite successful. I will wait to see what DxO and others have to say in that regard before plunking down any cash.
As for the pentaprism hump, I believe that form should follow function for the most part. If the OM-D has an electronic viewfinder, as has been suggested, then it should have been designed around that requirement. Giving it a hump that looks as if it was made for a pentaprism is backwards and just plain goofy! Efficient design generally looks good because it looks right. Olympus has a history of efficient design which leads me to wonder about the actual configuration of the product.
anyone else suspicious of the picture from the polish website? it just looks much too small, as if it were poorly photoshopped in.
600 comments!! We need another blog post to split the load admin!! 😉 Now we know its exterior, so what’s actually inside?
600 comments! is this a new record for this site? 😀
I think you are making admin smile!!!! 🙂
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Maybe it has 2 additional grips: 1 horizontal and another 1 vertical.
It may be! Maybe the hump is a grip too!
Haha! I guess Olympus engineers likes to grip on humps!
LOL indeed, give us more humps!
Not so long ago Oly raised some polemics when questioned about if the E-5 was the last oly DSLR and the response was not yes but surprisingly not “NO” instead there where some evasive answers like “we´ll always provide our customers with quality bodies so they can use 4/3rds lenses”(or something like so) i guess if this is a real succesor to the E-5(the last DSLR)or the high quality body is just another new line of products.
Reason for evasive answers from Olympus by E-7 will be DSLR, is maybe the will have EVF so also Sony A77 have.
E7 is gone forever.
600 comments?
Pyramid power baby!
Wow 600+ comments & counting… Seems many of us can’t wait fot the official announcement. While many will be happy for the full official specs, some will still find faults for the camera like saying “oly, is that all you’ve got?” or “oly should have this & that” phrase. Anyway, I think this will be my perfect camera for me. Like the way when I said before buying my ep3. Seems I’m a little too greedy. Exciting times as always 🙂
The hump is so terribly ugly according to its body size. The balance may be a problem in reality. And…how come people pay $1200 to this gigantic hump, bulky body, unknown IQ? Plus, we can pay just $500 more to get X-PRO1, which is more stylish. IQ is also much more exceptional.
Ok im callin it
1. EM5 is m4/3 dslr.
(12-50mm photoshopped to hide mirror. Thats why hump).
2. Weather sealed 4/3 adapter will have driver to drive AF of 43 lenses.
3. One Magic system EM5 is thus bring together E (dslr) M (m43 best of EP3 EPL3) OM4 design.
Modsnrockers, I like the way you think — very outside the box.
Thinking along the lines of #2, I wonder if the battery pack would be necessary to drive 43 lenses? I have no idea if 43 glass requires special motors, I thought it was just the PDAF problem, but if you’re right about motors, maybe the battery pack is necessary for 43 glass.
I hope we get 43 glass without any strings (extra batteries required) attached, but strings attached would be OK if necessary to bridge the two systems (43 & MFT). The 43 glass is well worth a little inconvenience sometimes.
Yep i think to focus fast 43 lenses are gonna want juice … battery pack.
I wonder how many of you people realise the battery in an E-P* is same as the one in E-620, so I see no problem in 4/3rd lens being used as regards power requirement. That battery provides enough power for the 620 and if any one is worried about the requirements, surely, you all carry a spare or two along with you on a shoot (kept warm in a pocket if needed).
“1. EM5 is m4/3 dslr.”
??!! Get real!
This is a mirrorless m4/3 EVIL. Get it? Is that so difficult to grasp?
The m4/3 mount w/ its reduced flange-back distance does not have room for a mirror! I thought everybody had understood that by now. And it’s not an APC-C either, for those dim enough to think so. I’m just so fed up with these obfuscated thoughtless comments in here. Jeez – give me strength… :-/
The hump is for the EVF (optics and circuits), along w/ an accessory port and probably also a flash. Otherwise, the EVF would have protruded backwards from the body, like on the Pannys.
I think a lot of people that dislike the hump are missing the fact that the camera as a whole is pretty small. At that point the so called “big hump” may actually look even “cute.”
And yes, part of the EVF could be there, or maybe even an accessory port.
The K-01 is getting banged over the size thing too- the K-01 is not “as big as a K-5”- it’s actually palpably smaller. I am sure in person both cameras will feel smaller than what people think.
+1 I’m pretty sure too that the hump seems big because the camera is small. A bit like an E-P3 with viewfinder attached, except that this looks much sleaker.
Love the way the camera looks. I think it’s too expensive, the kit lens a bit too limited, but I might get one anyway. We’ll see in a few days time.
The Panny EVF protrudes to allow room for big Caucasian noses. Panny said so themselves. That’s a lot of useless bulk for stupid port.
more than 600 comments and counting,.I think this camera will be a big hit,..I wish Panasonic R&D READ ALL about this comment and figure it out ,,.get into the mind of photographer,.and listen to our heart ,catch the passion of photography ,.don’t make the same mistake ,.over and over again
prepare everything and do not do a half-hearted for the NEXT GH3 or GX2,..forget about GF & G Line – you just made A BLUNDER ..
@ Anonymous
Panasonic have acknowledged recently that Olympus is more for the photographer, I think Panny is more for the general consumer….
@ forbes:
“…the kit lens a bit too limited…”
The normal kit lenses up till now have been 14-45, 14-54 or mostly 14-42.
This one is 12-50, sealed, and includes macro capabilities, and that’s suddenly become limited now? (yes I know, it’s half a stop slower at the long end, but still..!)
Hmmm… Looks like a slimmed down E-620. I guess their idea of retro is lets build something that looks like something we already build four years ago.
Nothing new to see folks…. move along… 🙂
the retro thing never came from Olympus, it’s part of the hype rumor sites have generated
LOL… it does not look like a slimmed down E-620. You can easily tell you design is based on the original OM line. The E-620 shows none of that in it’s design.
Something seems kind of fishy. The mounted lens looks photoshopped.
Photoshopped lens is hiding the mirror.
EM5 is m43 dslr.
(my speculation)
Looking at the rear view, the wording within the logo to the left of the viewfinder appears to be just a single line of text making it a full Four Thirds camera.
Aye, it reads “micro” 🙂
so …
no exposure lock button ?
no exposure compensation button ?
no af/manual button ?
no drive button ?
no iso button ?
I guess some of these controls are on the back-panel arrow buttons but still … with only 2 custom buttons I am not sure the interface will be very smooth and friendly compared to say the nex7 or even the gh2.
Release model : ISO, WB, DRIVE, AF on the arrows on joy pad (just as epen).
Exp comp assignable to one of the top dials.
Exp lock assignable to either function buttons.
I think the joypad buttons lack function lettering because all four buttons are programmable. So you can choose function for each button.
What makes you think this is Olympus’ idea of retro? And there are so many crazy comments, like a mirror in the camera. EVERYONE knows m4/3 is too small for a mirror in the area behind the lens. And one of the early comments about the viewfinder hump being ‘agressive’ and asking for it to be less pointy… You kidding?!
And I can’t believe all of the negative comments re the viewfinder ‘hump’ on top of the camera? Where do you think Olympus can put the viewfinder in such a small body? Maybe they could do it ala Nex-7, but all of you Rangefinder wannabe’s should get a life! I find the viewfinder in the middle of the body more balanced than on the end of the body, and yes I have used and loved using rangefinders.
So many limp wristed un-informed comments on this page! I’m glad most of you aren’t camera designers… If you all want a tiny camera, Olympus already has a GREAT camera called the PEN for you! Check it out! As far as I’m concerned the PEN’s are too small, and fidgety to do any serious control of functions – I love them but they are tiny.
I wonder how many of you have held an Olympus OM-1, OM-2 or OM-4? They really were at the pinnacle of elegant, professional, usable compact SLR design, refined over many many years! Olympus has alot of experience in industrial design, and creating highly usable cameras. If only this new camera was the same size as the OM models, it would be perfect.
We don’t know anything about the quality of the images, and the quality, build and feel of the camera, how it sits in your hands, so we should refrain judgement, and some of these un-informed comments are really hysterical.
This camera is meant to be a more serious photographic tool… we should be more concerned about not having more buttons on the body to directly control ISO, white balance, AF etc, and having a PC sync socket for flash and triggers, etc, but I’m sure Olympus have thought about the user interface and the target market – lets see what it’s like before you all make negative comments.
well said sir
Hear Hear……As a very happy owner of an OM-4 (with winder) and E-3, this design is a marriage of two generations. I totally agree, lets wait before the (inevitble) negativity arises
Would I be right in thinking sometimes like myself you put the winder on your OM-4 to use as a grip with a long lens but don’t even turn the winder on and just use manual advance? This is what makes the OM-D look very usable, the option to have a small camera, or a camera with a grip or add the battery pack as well. You can tailor the camera size for the job your doing just like you could with the original OM series with the winder and motor drive options. If this camera handles as well as the original OM it will mean you can use slower shutter speeds without having to even use the IS which always effects the quality in a small or large way.
At the moment we have small DSLRs on the market that don’t handle anywhere as well as as the original OM series and then we have the larger pro DSLRs. I have lost count of the amount of files I have been asked to professionally retouch from say the 5D MKII where a large amount of the shoot display camera shake because the photographer has used 1/30 or 1/60 or even 1/125 but can’t hold the camera still enough because it ways too much. Canon and Nikon seem to be making no attempt to reduce these cameras in size at present probably as it cost lots of development money. Now these cameras might have a low noise at high ISO advantage but if you shooting in quite poor light hand held you end up having to use a shutter speed quite often two stops faster to reduce the risk of camera shake if you have a lens with no IS. At that point your eating into your low noise advantage.
Based on these current photos it looks like Olympus have thought this design out well but it is going to come down to how good or bad that viewfinder really is.
What I would really love to see is a real photo with the Olympus OM-D series and say a OM-4 next to each other and back to back so you can compare the two. If the OM-D has more or less the same footprint that would be great as it will mean the handling should be good.
What makes nex 7 so appealing is not so much the rangefinder style but the fact that it packs the same features (did I mention bigger sensor?) in an apparently smaller package. And it is legitimate to wonder what this so talked about hump is hiding (if hiding anything) because as of now it can appear like a not so well thought camera (as opposed to a serious photographic tool olympus wants to make you think it is)
When I saw NEX7 on the first time, I think of a kind of scientific tool when I was in a physics laborary in my colleage.
@AirShaker
The Pen is the right size for it’s target market and will continue to be, the O-MD looks like it will be the right size for it’s target market.
The NEX and it’s lenses doesn’t sit well in female hands and feels uncomfortable even for guys using the larger lenses.
So a camera with the size of a pen with a built in viewfinder would not make sense?
So where are you going to fit this viewfinder into a Pen if you don’t make it any larger?
Shrink the screen. 2.5″ 16:9 is enough IMO.
You have no idea at present how big the camera is until you see it along side something else. Also the big fail with the NEX 7 is the size of the lenses as Sony have made no attempt to make them balance well with the camera. They just come across as a complete afterthought. There is more to the handling of a camera than just the body itself and that is what Sony don’t seem to get with the NEX series.
So m43 manufacturers don’t have to provide body ala nex7 because Nex lenses are big?
Did I say that… no I didn’t. Why should m43 have to follow NEX 7 design? What Olympus and trying to do is produce a usable system camera with a good range of lenses. So far the NEX 7 fails to do that. They have so far failed to put much money into lenses designed for the size of camera.
Well, I suppose one could use that hump to scratch one’s ass with or something. 🙂
The little issue with your entire point is that the Fuji X100 is a rangefinder style camera and won camera of the year last year. The new pro version Fuji is another rangefinder camera and it too will go on to win camera of the year.
The Olympus E620S (s = slim body) will be all but forgotten by fall.
4000 votes yes = 4000 camera revenue so far! 😀
dream on
@anonmous
Panny and Oly are doing much more right than some other camera companies, you are just so gutted!
I’m hoping the viewfinder has extra glass to greatly magnify the display to huge proportions.
If the om-d is a new line of product, something like an om-50 or om-500 should follow. An e-m5 version without weather sealing would suits me just fine. If they also remove the accessory port (the vf was the only usefull accessory to me) or even the buil in flash it could help making a lower profile camera
+1
It’s a “serious” camera which will lose half its useability (to me) if it can’t focus 4/3 glass properly. I like the design with and without the innovative grip. Pretty modular: you can easily change its bulk to accommodate different shooting styles and purposes. A camera that should last for many years.
Image quality, whatever it is, shouldn’t be an issue for my purposes. In that respect the E-P3 is more than good enough.
EM5 is a m4/3 dslr.
Grip battery pack needed to give juice to adapter to drive AF of 43 lenses.
(my speculation)
to all the hump haters, you guys can wait for the E-P5, cant you?
geez
LOL !!!
I cannot wait to see the AF results on the camera, that has been the only thing stopping me from switching to all EVIL cameras.
Admin: congratulations! 600+ comments!
I am concerned about the price of the total package:
Body E-M5: 1100 euro’s ?
Grip: 100 euro’s?
Batterygrip: 250 euro’s?
Weather proof adapter: 150 to 200 euro’s?
Package price estimation: 1600-1700 euro’s (at least)
More expensive than E5.
Admin: please ask your sources if this cam will focus regular 4/3rds glass. It would justify the high price for the package to drive superb 4/3rds glass. If not, then very, very expensive.
1100 for body only. 1300 with kit lens. Don’t know if the grip is included (don’t think).
I have “something” about 4/3 coming soon. Just a small rumor but better than nothing 🙂
I’ll be watching for it 🙂
I’m finding a lot of comments are being made regarding ‘A Modular Design’ regarding the function of the ‘Hump’, yes there are many possibilities as regards what is hidden there or if it can be removed and replaced with an alternative type (ie ‘Waist Level Finder’)a very atractive idea.
Also a lot of comments regarding the retro styling, many seemingly from people who have probably never held an OM but I wonder how many people have seen Maitanis original ideas for a 35mm system, this may open many eyes very wide indeed,
http://web.archive.org/web/20091021205044/http://geocities.com/maitani_fan/om_interview_2.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20091022060641/http://geocities.com/maitani_fan2/omx.html
How about a modular E system now!!!!!
Come on lets see some constructive comments now.
Any facts on actual dimensions of the Cam? What about new rumors regarding IQ or DR
Coming soon Sven!
Couple have been known for some time – width 121mm, weight 425g: http://www.43rumors.com/ft4-first-bots-of-om-d-specs/
Since the e-m5 is weather sealed i hope they added something to protect / hide the sensor when changing lens
No real need to. I have used the E series in the rain and changed the lenses no problem on pro shoots. If you start worrying about the sensor you also need to worry about the back glass elements on the lens and contacts. You just need to be careful otherwise to design sensor protection in like that will add a lot to the price.
Admin, I keep hearing recently that it may not be a GX1 sensor. If you could please double check with your sources about GX1 sensor or not. I realize it’s all rumor. I believe it’s going to be a tweaked GX1 sensor but if they managed somehow to get another one, and if it performs well then great. I just think it would be hard due to no economies of scale, if then the camera will come out at the price you are mentioning.
I still at this point believe a tweaked GX1 sensor is the deal.
Specs looks like GX1 sensor.
It seems to me that the display has a 3:2 ratio :-(. That would be a minor drawback because you loose resolution when shooting in 4:3.
No you don’t. Even if it was 4:3 ratio there is not room to make the screen any higher. The space is just not there to do it.
700+ comments! Olympus is making Admin very happy! 🙂
Can0t wait to see how many will there be at the end! This id D800 rumor capability!
LOL!
Wonderful camera, I love the modularity of various grips! 🙂
“700+ comments! Olympus is making Admin very happy!”
No, it should make Olympus very happy. And ashamed at the same time, since they have so many devoted users yet keep letting them down with mediocre or incomplete mirrorless cameras in recent years. Hope E-M5 brakes that trend.
I am going to buy this camera for sure! I am eager to see how it looks with a 35-100mm attached. It looks like it would actually be practical and usable with a lens of that size.
Exciting times for 43rds!
You’re not angry anymore 😉 ?
I checked the site 20 times a day to pick up every new rumor for the EM5. The EM5 really looks not bad for an upgrade from GF1.
BUUUUT… when I step back 1 min, I found that GX1 X kit + LVF2 also costs around $1100~1200.
For basically the same price of EM5, I got the same sensor, about the same EVF. And, I have one additional wonderfully compact 14-42X lens.
In my gear setup, M43 is one “assistant” cam and my 1st desire is compactness. In fact, my only complaint to GX1 is the lack of manual video exposure. Other than that, everything is fine for me.
I sincerely hope EM5 will bring down GX1’s price.
GX1 is not weather sealed.
Design is OK, not perfect, though. It’s a t least historically correct.
Great camera looking to bux this as small backup camera with 2 primes.
What a waste designing and building a brand new camera around a sensor type that has reached a dead end. APS-C is the future for the years to come. Micro 4/3 sensors are just too small to give good low light performance, smooth tones and rich detail. Yes, AF may be quick, the view finder from heaven and the lenses superb, but if the heart of the camera doesn’t deliver, it’s a no go for most serious photographers. And it seems that this is the target group for this expensive tool. I don’t think that this camera is serious competition for the Fuji X100 let alone the X-Pro1. Back to the drawing table it is….
@Rose
maybe it s you that has reached the dead end. Four Thirds is the format that continues to evolve.
The sensor is NOT the heart of the camera.
“I don’t think that this camera is serious competition for the Fuji X100 let alone the X-Pro1.” we’ll see….
* * * * * * * * * *
The theoretical difference in sensor performance between APS-C and Micro Four Thirds is marginal, only 3/4 of an aperture stop.
* * * * * * * * * *
The sensor performance differences will become asymptotically flattened out in near timeframe, so any differences in low light performance using high ISO settings, as well as dynamic range will be practically nothing to worry about.
Rather, the serious photographer will be more concerned with the lenses providing acceptable wide open performance, good bokeh, compact size, weight and weather sealings.
With the Micor Four Thirds lens portfolio expanding, from ultrawide zooms, through a set of bright primes (20mm/F1.7, 25mm/F0.95, 25mm/F1.4, 45mm/F1.8, 45mm/F2.8 Macro, 60mm/F2.8 Macro, 75mm/F1.8,…, and in due time support of the classical Four Thirds lenses, a majority of photo scenarios are covered.
Take the 24.3 megapixels sensor from the current Sony trio (SLT-A65, , SLT-A77, NEX-7), cut out a MFT slice from it’s original APS-C size, and you’ll get a 15 megapixels sensor perfectly fitting the Olympus 4:3 aspect ratio. And if that’s not sufficient, make the sensor oversized with multi aspect ratios (16:9, 5:4, 4:3, 3:2, 1:1) further narrowing the size difference to the APS-C.
You’ll get the same low light performance, the same dynamic range ratio as from the sensor in the NEX, but with Olympus image processing, and the MFT lenses added, I just cant see any reasons to blindly stay with an APS-C fixation of yours…
Why did Olympus wait until now to release the OM-D?
– *Is the OM-D the secret weapon they’ve been sitting on for some time, to pull out when in danger and doubt times?*
– *What triggered the release of the OM-D right now?*
– *Why haven’t we seen it until now?*
– *Hasn’t it been perfectioned until now?*
– *Hasn’t all bits and pieces forming a system been available until now?*
– *How important is the fact we’ve just seen competitors launching advanced models within this year?*
– *Is there a launch synchronization made with Panasonic? What are they up to now?*
– *I sincerely hope it’s not just a show off to the white-collar of an eventually sell out of the Imaging division of Olympus?*
– *Rather I hope this “OM-D System” is pulling more capital investments into the Olympus Imaging division, seing the OM-D prosper significantly and getting a strong foothold in the market!*
What connectivity does the new OM-D provide??
• Any weather resistant connection ports?
• Remote control cable via RM-CB1 / RM-UC1?
• Camera Remote Control (RM-1 & RM-2) using the existing Olympus InfraRed protocol?
• External microphone input with level control?
• HDMI micro (expensive) or HDMI mini (more common)?
• USB 3.0 (eg. for GPS)?
• WLAN (802.11n) & Bluetooth v4.0?
• GPS provided in optional/external battery holder?
• Time lapse/Intervalometer in optional/external battery holder?
• Webserver interface (IO over Ethernet) with the external battery holder?
• Last but not least: Extensive iPhone/Android Apps!?
i just want to say, yes it CLASIC, and yes its NEVER DIE !
This is about 1000 times better than the new Pentacle K01
I hope Olympus makes it and rodent. Become a small part of sony
I was excited about the video aspects….but now i see old technology. The same old compression algorithm used in 2008 with 5d. I was holding out on the GH2.
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