A couple of weeks ago I told you that Samyang will soon launch the 50mm f/1.5 lens for the Micro Four Thirds system. And now according to CanonWatch Samyang will also launch a 50mm Cine lens with a crazy f/1.2 aperture (for many different mounts). The lens will be of very high quality for a very low price. This is a good news for all GH4 owners and video shooters amongst us!
P.S.: There are already many MFT Cine lenses from Samyang/Rokinon and a list can be seen at Bhphoto (Click here).
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Latest announced Samyang MFT lenses on BHphot0:
10mm f/2.8 ED AS NCS CS lens in Micro Four Thirds mount (Click here).
12mm f/2.0 NCS CS lens in Micro Four Thirds mount (Click here).
24mm f/1.4 ED AS IF UMC lens in Micro Four Thirds mount (Click here).
35mm f/1.4 AS UMC lens in Micro Four Thirds mount (Click here).
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Interesting 🙂 Me like
love those short to the point one line comments 🙂
If it’s a cine lens then it’s T1.2 🙂
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It’ll probably be rated at T1.3 or so actually.
– F stops are a ratio of aperture size to element size. They give you a close approximation of how much light travels through the lens.
– T stops are F stops corrected for light lost traveling through the lens (glass is almost perfectly clear, not actually perfectly clear). It’s a measurement of light transmitted (that’s where the T comes from) rather than an equation like F stops.
I know, but sometimes f=t like in the case of the Canon 24-70 f4L IS 🙂
Nice enough, but I think on crop sensors it will struggle to find a place in between the compact film SLR 50mm 1.4 lenses that are abundant at $100, the 50mm 1.2 lenses (like Canon FD) in the $300 range, and the Voigtlander 42.5 0.95 which is a native format lens, fast, proven, and in the $1000 neighbourhood.
I guess it entirely depends on pricing. Even $500 sounds pretty marginal given that situation. But my guess it that it will be more like $600-700.
i would much rather see a 50mm f1.4 for $300 less than their f1.2 will cost.
Hard to be impresses when objectives are designed for 35mm and are by size and weight such. + the focal length is typically too long for original design.
I love my 7.5mm f/3.5 and hope someone would bring req 7mm or 8mm f/1.4 or even f/1.2 with sharpness the 7.5mm has, and it would be rectilinear. Purely designed for m4/3 for size and weight.
+1000
Except for f1.4 or f1.2 that sounds a bit too much for a reasonably sized and priced lens…I’l goo for f2
It’s hard to build a 7mm or 8 mm f/1.2 or f/1.4. At those focals f/2.8 is common…
What would be the point? At such short focal lengths, depth-of-field effects are nearly impossible anyway. For landscapes you can just use longer shutter and you likely wouldn’t shoot wide open anyway. For night-sky photos you can afford ~30 seconds of exposure without star trails becoming apparent. Handheld night shooting at such wide angle is not very common and wouldn’t justify the price.
Depth of field isn’t the point. What about shooting low-light interiors? Environmental street photography at night?
There’s lots of benefits to having a fast aperture. I find the small DOF I get with fast lenses is more problematic than beneficial, especially with manual focus.
That’s why m4/3 is so great as there is little reason to get small apertures when depth of field is easily in acceptable level.
Not for landscape, not for astronomy… Think normal situations. Weddings, churches, parties, motor shows… All kind situations where fast shutter speed is required to freeze motion.
And of course the benefits would come to astronomy as well, such lens comes easily one of the most wanted as long it would be sharp like Samyang usually have.
It would be nice for many purposes, even rarely for the shallow depth of field.
You would not need to buy it, it would not be a kit objective or be available from every corner store.
Why low light photographers are meant to be left off from ultra-wide angle photography and limited only to slower shutter speeds or higher ISO?
Any word on support for auto-focus?
On Cine lenses you don’t want or need AF.
But would be nice if Samyang would support AF for normal lenses, but guess it won’t happen because they are made for many different mounts.
Not likely, that is the thing they use to push price down. And missing auto focus isn’t a such problem, not even sport.
non AF is only harder if one is used to or experiencenced AF at the same time. Some people say they experience photography in another way if using non AF, which might be true, There were rumors before that Samyang will come finaly with AF lenses.non AF is okay if you dont have problem with magnified focusing. Or just close that dam aperturering for the people who like that. 🙂
The problem I have with non AF lenses is that when I try to give the camera to someone else (a regular, non-photo entusiast person) to take a photo of me, it becomes a nightmare to explain he/she how to use the lens. I have the samyang/rokinon 12mm f2 (manual focus only) and I love to take environmental portraits with it. But I’ve gave up to hand my camera to other person to take me a photo with that lens because it’s always blurry 🙁
That’s great new and bad news at the same time. Great news because it will surely turn out great IQ, just like the Samyang 85 f1.4 – that I have. Great news because I will have both 75mm f1.2 (on my Pentax K-30) and 100mm 1.2 (on my FT and mFT bodies). Bad news because now I will have to rethink my desire to get the Pentax 50mm f1.8.
Hmmm… this is a very interesting proposition. Was beginning to consider the Nocticron or Voigtlander 42.5 but this may bring another option to the table. I will wait and see what the real-world price, IQ and character prove to be.
That nocticron- although brilliant- is overpriced. I know a lot would disagree but Leica Panny have been noted by many other user review sites as making mistakes with their pricing strategy in the past. 1600.00 is unacceptable IMO for M43. Why? When you could go fuji and get a 1.2 for literally 700 less why would you do this. You have to think about the competition- the Leica label isn’t worth that much. The IQ isn’t that far ahead, if any, more than a nikon 85mm 1.4 for a grand less.
Considering you can get the Olympus 45mm for around $225-250, that is a lot of extra money for 1 stop and IS. It is a fantastic lens but I can’t justify it.
I’m ok with luxury purchases. I have a few myself. But, for this format I feel that even surpasses the threshold in terms of pricing. YOu can’t say you have the fastest 85mm…it’s not that light to be quite frank here….and at the end of the day it’s still a panasonic and not a full blown Leica.
the extra stop always cost alot, even the step from 1.4 to 1.2 was huge in cost already, but mostly things like build or other special extras make up for the price too. I think the Fuji 56mm and Nikkor 32mm are prob the only 1.2 AF lenses below 1000 usd right now
I know what you mean, but I can justify it from a work point of view. I shoot portraits and events in very low light situations where flash is not an option. So for me, for the portrait work the character of the lens comes into play as from what I see it is excellent, and to have f1.2 with a useable DOF and OIS would be very useful in low light. If the Samyang is exceptionally good I would weigh up the pros and cons between it, the Nocticron and the Voigtlander. The OIS does makes the Nocticron tempting though, and I guess that’s what Panasonic are relying on…
I agree – the Oly 45mm is fantastic – and has AF – I suspect this lens to be around $1000 – I think the Panasonic 42.5 F1.2 with Auto Focus and IS for few hundred more is a better option –
$1000 for a lens with no AF and no IS just a bit much
they seem to have unique position with its OIS. The Fuji would prob cost the same if they had ois too & could use the blessing of famous german optic brand.
As an owner of a Voigtlander 17.5mm f/0.95, the Voigtlander with its great low light performance and sharp pictures is actually quite reasonably priced. I had my initial concerns about manual focus, but all that went away when I saw the kind of pictures it captures… and I mount it on the tiny body of the Panasonic GM1! Works perfectly.
So there will be an 50/1.5 for mft only and an 50/1.2 for all mount even mft too?
my guess is it’s the same lens. The cine version is 50/T1.5 and the normal version is 50/F1.2. The half stop difference is the loss in light transmission.
Thanks you!
Panasonic is really keeping a lid on LX8 info. Was hoping we’d have pics by now.
True – I am excited to see it as the Fuji X30 is a flop to me – does not have a 1 inch sensor – does not look as nice as the X20 – they have cut of buttons – ( to fit a larger LCD – I think X10/20 LCD is fine and more important to have the buttons on the left ) and it will go for $670 – so not cheap and only a 2/3rds sensor –
I know the Sony X100m3 is a good camera and very small – but I would prefer a bit longer focal range – Touch LCD – Touch To Focus and Shoot – which the LX8 promises to have –
My biggest question is the lens – I hope a 24-100mm F1.8-2.8 and hope the F1.8 goes to around 50mm – not like the old RX100/m2 which was just F1.8 at 28mm and then went to F4.9 really quick –
Panasonic really has done well with buttons and menu system and Touch LCD – and nice mode dials with C1 C2 C3 – and some Fn buttons – I like as many Fn they can fit and the soft Fn buttons – The RX100m3 is so small it is hard to fit any more buttons on it – but if LX8 similar to LX7 then they should be able to fit a Fn1 Fn2 –
Not really interested in any lens that is optically a 35mm or APS-C lens with an M4/3 mount rigged onto it… Defeats the purpose of M4/3 if you just end up putting big glass on it.
being able to use 35mm lenses is one of the strenghts of many mirrorless cameras, with or without adapter, depending if they are old or new/concept. the purpose of m43 can be many. Like if the person is openminded or narrowminded(copyright another narrowminded gentleman herem somewhere)
I couldn’t have said this any better.
Adapting lenses for various uses is great, but would you rather not see them make a real m4/3 lens that does not have the optical excess that would be otherwise used on 35mm or APS-C? It would be smaller and lighter, and the lens hood would actually work properly with its field of view.
ofcourse this is all true, but many people will disagree with you, if you google for the use of legacy lenses on mft bodies.
without AF… out!
I’ll get one, if the price is right. But not the m43 version, i’l get Nikon or Canon mount instead because of the speedbooster, that will make it more or less 35mm F0.85 🙂
If it’s full frame format, it will have poor sharpness and poor contrast because the lens will diffuse a much bigger circle of confusion image thus making too much like in near the sensor. Full frame lens are always less sharp than m43 lens on m43 bodies and also less contrasty software correction aside.
But this lens with a focal reducer will weight the 700gr and be a monster light gathering tool, which can be interesting. I have the pentax A 50mm f1.2 and with a focal reducer it gathers only f1.0 light but has f0.85 blur Capability which has contrary to noobs beliefs quite limited uses for a photographers compare to the amount of light it can gather