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The image you see here on top shows you the new super quality (and a bit expensive) [shoplink 31284]Olympus 75mm f/1.8 lens[/shoplink]. One of my sources now unveiled that also Panasonic will unveil a fast tele prime lens at Photokina. I have no specs yet but I hope it will be a bit cheaper so that we can put some pressure on Olympus 75mm price. This is not the only lens Panasonic will announce at Photokina but I have no reliable info about these lenses…for now!
Olympus 75mm preorder and price check at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, Amazon Germany and Amazon UK.
Panasonic 12-35mm X lens preorders at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, Amazon Germany, Amazon UK, Fotohanskeuzekamp, Amazon Japan and Digitalrev.
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Would be great news!
I guess the Panasonic tele lens “must” have OIS. Which will come in handy for use on Panasonic cameras.
No, it won’t be stabilized.
The 20 and 25 haven’t been stabilized either, so what. And as there is no competition, they will just make cheaper and worse lenses than Oly to beat them on the price front. That’s FT5.
@Henrik
You really can’t tell if it will feature OIS or not.
20 and 25 have nothing to do with tele aspect.
OIS function will be more essential in tele lens.
The 45mm f/2.8 is stabilized, optically better, and more expensive than any Olympus m4/3 macro offering to date. The 25mm and 7-14mm are also optically better and more expensive than their nearest Olympus counterparts (the 17mm and 9-18mm). The 14mm is about the same price as the Olympus 17mm, while being optically better and a faster lens.
The two companies complement each other’s lens offerings fairly well, with overlap occuring mostly in the consumer zoom range. An obvious choice that Panasonic offers that Olympus currently doesn’t is a fast zoom, and the 12-35 f/2.8 is more expensive than ANY m4/3 lens to date.
So, Henrik, what exactly makes you think that Panasonic will release a cheap, crappy lens?
That because there is no native Olympus native M43 marcro lens yet
I didn’t say “dedicated macro prime,” I said “macro offering”. The new 12-50mm has limited macro ability, as does the MCON-P01 macro adapter. Both are cheap, substandard options, particularly compared to the PanLeica 45mm – which was exactly my point, which you obviously missed.
hope it is leica 80mm f/2.0 with power OIS, really need a tele lens like this, the oly 75mm silver lens is way too ugly
The Olympus 75mm rejected on its appearance, thats interesting 🙂
Shouldn’t be surprised by that. Just look at all the threads about black vs. silver OM-Ds, and the agonizing time some people have decided which to buy. Some people appear to buy cameras as fashion accessories, not as tools to make photographs. 🙂
I know. But it still amazes me.
We should have a poll on the biggest wonders of forum dwellers
-How can 17mm be perfect and 20mm boring?
-IS can be useful at times. Not as often as many think. “Yes but I got Parkingson disease and I only shoot still lives without tripod nor flash in country side low light”
-….which brings out funny memories from dpreview forums : “that 20mm does not have OIS, it beats the purpose. It is death on birth!”
-when comparing equivalents, systematically all Panasonic (OR) Olympus lenses are extraordinarily superior, the other is crap.
-Sony just released this new body or lens : bye bye m43! you are doomed!
-Panasonic does not release the NEX7 killer : bye bye m43! you are doomed! (anyone remembers the GX1 talkback? )
-The EVF has to be off sided to be worth any consideration.
-(before the birth of the 1.8/45) m43 needs a 45mm prime! …Dude, 2.8/45 *is* a 45mm prime!
I am sure I missed a few more…
😀
That’s the reason why I will move to G-series for now, lack of stabilization in GX/GF bodies.
Just ignore Henrik. I think he burned his fingers on a Panasonic toaster as a child, and has an unbridled and irrational dislike for anything that says Panasonic on it.
lol… or he had his brain damaged by a Panasonic microwave…
Yes! So September 18-23 will be a busy time 🙂
Following the mediocre 12-35 I’m not too optimistic regarding this prime.
And, completely OT: Admin, could you please please offer the log-in box again. It’s really frustrating that I haven’t been able to log in for more than a week, now.
Dont know where you get the idea that the 12-35 is mediocre.. in several reviews as well as users in dpr all report this is a good lens.
Why is the 12-35 mediocre? I thought was getting good reviews?
I agree. Some of the reviews I’ve seen, at 12mm, the 12-35mm is even better than the 12-60mm and 12mm.
DonParrot–Tell us exactly why the 12-35mm is mediocre! I need a good chuckle this morning. Is it too expensive? Maybe. Where you expecting an f/2.0 zoom so you could be angry at the $2500 pricetag and really big size?
Well, it isn’t sharper than the 14-45 and produces nice rainbow-coloured CAs. I wouldn’t mind the price if it was really outstanding but from assessing the pictures I’ve seen to date it’s anything but outstanding and far overpriced.
Maybe I’m spoilt from my FT Zuikos and primes such as the Summilux 25 1.4 or the M.Zuiko 45 1.8 but I’d never spent this amount of money for a mediocre lens. Thank you very much.
I guess you will be even more disappointed by the APS-C or the FF equivalent, I mean look at awful corners!
May be you have not seen yet any good photos with the Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8?
It is hard to judge the lens without using them. Look for example on this photo(-s), which by the way is taken with underrated Panasonic GF5 at ISO 2500 in Jpeg: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jim-lin/7412018844/
Ive been using the Pana 12-35mm for a few days, and I think it’s one of the best m4/3 lenses to date,
Certainly not mediocre!
katy
I hope it will be a 150mm f/2.0 or f/2.8.
*DonParrot : 12-35mm is that bad? Tell me more about it since all reviews seem to find it great apart that it isn’t as sharp as 4/3 Oly 12-60mm!
Since the 12-60 has better optical performance despite the longer focal range, the 12-35 is less than that great. Nobody other than you said the 12-35 was “that bad.”
“Mediocre” is exactly “that bad”.
Nope: mediocre means – according to my dictionaries – just nothing special. It’s a moderate lens at a top-class price.
“Conclusion
There’s not much to add to this review that the numbers don’t already show – the pre-production version of the Panasonic 12-35mm ƒ/2.8 that we tested showed excellent performance across the board. In addition, it boasts image stabilization and a splash- / dust-proof design: there is a lot to like here, making it an attractive upgrade for GX-1 users. The only unknown will be the price, which we’re sure can’t be cheap for a lens this good.”
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1518/cat/all
Any other questions?
Hello Don, why dont say mittelprächtig? 😉 I think and I hope that Panasonic will bring a new fast 20mm f1,7 that supports the quick AF. The actual one is an oldtimer and nearly as quick as manual focus… And I hope that the new Lumix lenses are also available in silver and not this design like a twist cap of my coffee pot… Olympus shows how a design can be changed from the ugly first 14-45 to the beautiful last edition of this lense and the rest of the brand too. May be only the silver classics of Voigtländer can compete to them in question of beauty.
Looking at the resolution charts on srlgear.com (which have always proven to be quite accurate and enlightening), the 12-35 seems to beat the 12-60mm ever so slightly wide-open and stopped down. I’d call it a winner!
And BTW… I have the 12-60mm and use it as my go-to lens most of the time, despite its large size. Perhaps its bokeh is creamier than the 12-35mm? But I don’t have any reason to think that the 12-35mm won’t be a wonderful performer.
300 F1.4 for bird shooting? LOL!
You’ll get better results with a thirty-aught-six. 😉
A shot gun gives better hit/shot ratio.
What is a “tele” lens, and what is “super tele?” Are we talking about 100-150 or 200-300? Hoping for >= 300 🙂 € < 500
200mm+
In best case 200mm++
Less than 150mm would be disappointing …
They will make a 85 mm / 1.4 so they can say that it has longer range and a brighter aperture than the Oly 😉
Hope leica has a hand in the design like for the 25mm 1.4
I seem to remember an interview where someone from panasonic saying leica don’t do zooms (hence X series), but they’d be working together on furture primes…
I think that makes sense; we already have Leica branded 50mm and 90mm equivalent primes, so a 35 and 135mm+ could be next.
Oh a 35mm would be perfect! I hope either Oly or Panasonic comes out with one…I’m using a legacy 35mm f2.8 now, and I absolutely love that FL on the M43s……..
Leica does zooms, though they are few and hardly popular in their rangefinder world.
Panasonic also produce several Leica-branded zooms for the 4/3 cameras. (All Panasonic 4/3 lenses are Leica-branded, including zooms).
If this is the case ( Pana announce tele lens ) then it must in Leica branded lens .
F1.4 will be great . This is what I’m waiting for .
Should I hold the purchase on 75mm ? No , I’ll get it first .
85mm / 150mm / 300mm are most welcome .
Pana finally wake up & realize the importance of tele prime lens for ultimate image quality .
What I would hope for? 150mm+
What I would expect? 65-80mm…
Admin, what were the poll results for tele-prime?
Indeed, very good news! Panasonic and Leica so far produced very decent MFT prime lenses. Would be nice to see a high quality tele-prime with OIS from them (as well as a shorter than 10mm rectilinear prime).
BTW, here is an intriguing Ricoh 14mm m43 Lens Patent :
http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2012-07-06
100mm(200mm equivalent) F2.0 OIS Macro for $1099 will be nice.
I’d like to see a fast, high quality version of the 100 – 300 mm zoom or a fast, high quality 300 mm tele but I’m afraid, it will only be a “short” tele lens oh 75 – 85 mm.
Forget to mention .
Someone have to remind Pana , no rubber elements such as the 25mm f1.4 if they build another Leica branded lens . Design is extremely important , along with optics & of course I have no doubt on Leica branded stuffs when it come to performance .
Rubber elements? What on earth are you talking about?
He is using the term element as meaning one part of a whole.
300mm f4 please!!!
at least above 200mm.
wont happen, qill be <=100mm I fear
tele lens, i expect OIS.
Dear admin
No rumors on 4/3 adapter ?
I know this has been discussed a lot on the forums, but I could not get exact answer to my question which follows.
For example, take the description of this lens at BH: “The M.Zuiko Digital ED 75mm f/1.8 Lens for Micro 4/3 Cameras from Olympus …(equivalent to 150mm in 35mm or full-frame format) for Micro 4/3.”
I don’t think they are using it correctly. I mean it’s NOT equivalent to 150mm on full frame format.
It IS equivalent to 75mm in FF, but with the image cropped in the centre to size of 4/3 format.
I mean, if we use 150mm on FF camera, we will have much different field of view in the area of 4/3 crop. This image will NOT be equivalent to an image done with 75mm lens on 4/3 camera.
Put it another way, if we want to have really EQUIVALENT images done by FF and m43 cameras, we need to make a picture with M43 camera equipped with 75mm, and make a picture with full frame camera equipped again with 75mm lens. And then crop the latter to the size of the first image.
Isn’t that right?
No. And also- questions like this have been asked a bajillion times about equivalence etc- to where it will make even the most even-handed relaxed person a rage-filled commenter that will accuse you of trolling.
It is a native lens, not an adapted full frame lens. It will (roughly) gives you angle of view of a 135 150mm lens, or more accurately 16°. The cropping etc you’re talking about is putting a lens designed for 135 onto a µ4/3 lens- this is not the case, it’s native. The lens was built for µ4/3. Put it on a 135 sized sensor and you’ll get an image circle filling up only about half of the sensor in the middle.
And before it gets asked, or someone else brings it up: f1.8 is f1.8. It give a depth of field equivalent of f3.6 on 135, but for exposure and everything else: f1.8. There is not switch on a light meter that says “Full Frame, Medium Format, Half frame.”
Gah… you know you’ve been talking about µ4/3 too long on a public internet forum when you post comments like mine 😉
+10
You go girl 🙂
Max points. Top of the class.
Nah, you forgot the ISO equivalence… rookie! 😉
Just kidding!
Sigh, this topic always causes so much confusion specially due to the unfortunate terminology of crop factor. Here is the simple story:
“A 75mm lens mounted on m43 will give roughly the same field of view as a 150mm lens mounted on “FF” / 35mm cameras”.
Nothing less nothing more. Whether you call it 150mm equivalent or not is more a matter of terminology and how you see the world, but the main fact is stated above.
Really want a great 200mm f/2.8 native m4/3 lens…would be equivalent in length and DOF to a 400mm f/5.6 on full frame at half the physical length. I use a Canon FD 200mm f/2.8 often on my m4/3 cams, and it’s a great lens to have….just wish I had one with less PF and autofocus.
mister_roboto, thanks for clarifications – glad that my post didn’t sound as a hopeless troll :))
I kinda missted the point with native lens view angle.
Heh! No prob.
I too want this lens, and a 300 f/4. It’s not like they are terribly difficult lenses to make and design — one of the best 300 f/4’s is Nikon’s, with something like 7 elements.
This is very good news. I expect it will be a fast 80 or 100/f2 compact lens with OIS which when combined with the good 2x intelligent resolution zoom will give either 200mm reach or 400mm/f2 effective range for portraits, sports, or action. Alternatively either a 150 or 200mm fast supertele would be great for action or wildlife photography.
300mm F4 please!
(With 1,4 TC)
a fast, high quality tele-prime with OIS(!) would be more expensive than the oly 75mm
It looks like Panasonic have abandoned Leica certification for their high end lenses, so no hope for a 65mm summilux or 100mm summicron I guess…
I would be fine with no red dot mark up.
Hmm… i just bought the OMD as the AF Solution beside my M9P and the Lens I’m hoping for is a 300mm F4 (or even 2.8) together with a EC14. So Olympus and/or Pana- bring it on!
B
When are those expensive Olympus 75mm f/1.8 lenses hitting the shores of the US?
Please….new 7-14 w/threads or 7mm prime. That would be perfect!
If your main concern is that the Oly 75mm is expensive, what are you expecting from Pany?
Who wants to pay elevated prices for a lens because Panasonic have to include OIS into their lenses, only when they adopt IBIS and can abandon OIS will I consider a Panny lens.
Nothwithstanding the great “5-axis” of the EM5, I think you will see lens-IS (OIS) persist, as you can optimize the IS to the lens. Any advantage OIS has over IBIS is more likely for long focal lengths. However, there is nothing like steadying the camera.
I would be very interested in comments on the effectiveness of IBIS from any EM5 owner who has shot low light images at 600mm or longer. When using my Nikon 600mm with the Panasonic G series cameras I really have to watch for wind shake, even though I have a heavy duty tripod and gimbal mount.
Guess, 100/2.4 or 60/1.7
I’ve heard that the E-M5’s IBIS doesn’t work with manual lenses (which is stupid if it’s true) — is that correct?
Not correct. I use the E-M5 with my collection of Canon FD, OM-Zuiko and Hexanon lenses all the time. IBIS works fine as long as you set the correct focal length. A good old 50mm manual focus prime becomes an awesome inexpensive portrait lens on the E-M5.
IBIS of E-M5 with legacy lens is working in still photos.
For video, no IBIS when using legacy lens.
75mm Olympus for 849 euro’s….
http://www.fotobooms.nl/detail/0/172/609/0/14108/Olympus-M.ZUIKO-DIGITAL-ED-75mm-1%3A1.8—M.ZUIKO-DIGITAL-ED-75mm-1%3A1%3A8.html
Nice price but not in stock 🙁
hoping for a 150mm f2 guessing it will be a 45mm f1.4
Bet it will be black and include a hood.
Bet it will be black and include a hood …
A 150mm f/2.8 would be a great start to getting us some super telephoto goodness. Follow it up with a 200 f/2.8 and a 300 f/4 and you’ve got the big guns covered. I could see Olympus doing these before Panasonic though.
So I expect something benign like a 50mm f/2.0.