Digicaminfo got a rumor that sounds a bit “unexpected”. He reports about two new Olympus MFT cameras. Digicam itself said that he is not sure about that rumor. Anyway, here is the rumors:
- The first camera has the codename “TRAD2“. It is a premium model and comes in black silver and white. There will be two kits, one with the new 17mm f/1.8 lens and one with the 14-42mm.
- The second camera is the E-PL6 and comes in Silver, Black, White and Red.
As long as I know Olympus will announce a new E-P5 in early May. And there will be no new E-PL6 yet. So as Digicaminfo said…keep your feet’s on ground on that rumor!
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So hoping that high end TRAD2 goes FT5 soon. Thanks for the rumour.
Your translation is a bit imprecise. He says he doesn’t know if TRAD2 is a codename. It might well be that this is the P5. He also says that it does come in both premium and standard version.
Isn’t that a bit too soon for E-Pl6?
TRAD2 might not be all that newsworthy. It could be “TRADITIONAL (style camera, marketing iteration) 2”. i.e. a second round of bundles of the EM-5. Looking at the rumoured bundled glass, that might make a lot of sense as a relatively cheap and easy way of re-invigorating interest in the EM-5 technology in the run up to a launch later in the year of a successor.
TRAD1: Silver and Black bodies, available with body only, 14-42 or 12-50 kits.
TRAD2: Add a white body option with body only, 14-42 or 17 kits (in addition to, or instead of, the 12-50 bundle)
But I – like DigiCam – am just speculating here. 🙂
Can’t see a white version of em-5 happening, it just wouldn’t work with its retro styling
Yes, that wasn’t used back then, but the silver version with a white leatherette would look great.. I would get one since I need a second body.
But I think that it will rather be an E-P5
http://www.imagerie.co.id/product/2159/omd-em-5-custom-leatherette-kit-(white-crinkled-embos)
I know about these leatherettes, you can find on ebay, but looking at the video explaining how to apply them was enough to tame my enthusiasm.
I know about these leatherettes, you can find on ebay, but looking at the video explaining how to apply them was enough to tame my enthusiasm.
You just might be right. 😉
Looks like we have some really exciting cameras on the horizon from both Olympus and Panasonic!
Can’t wait to see what the details will be? Bring It on.
Seems a bit early for the e-pl6, youd think theyd make any new sensor tech exclusive to the e-m5 successor
If there’s really an E-PL6 coming, I guess innovation would be about WiFi and wireless sync with smartphones, not about new sensor tech.
+1
+ one ! I think the actual sensor is good enough and we will see it for a few more camera models before it is updated.
E-PL6 already? It wouldn’t be an E-PL5 with a viewfinder, would it?
Maybe I can wait a few more weeks before biting the E-PL5 bullet.
My E-PL1 + VF-2 still takes happy photographs, but I would like the new sensor.
E-PL6 already? It wouldn’t be an E-PL5 with a viewfinder, would it?
Maybe I can wait a few more weeks before biting the E-PL5 bullet.
My E-PL1 + VF-2 still takes happy photographs, but I would like the new sensor.
E-PL6? or an E-PL5 with a viewfinder, but i think this will be an E-M50, and TRAD2 is maybe an E-P5.
Interested in this TRAD2 , since it is a system interchange camera unlike the LF1 .
Premier model , likely this successor of EP3 .
The most important , a sensor inside it should edge OMD then I might be the potential buyer .
Surely it will put more pressure on Panasonic to speed up it’s MCS debut .
you are the most delusional person in the world! Every single post of yours is filled with so much fantasy is ridiculous.
Olympus just got the 16mp sensor and its only been in 2 models youre already asking for a new, better one. You also want an unproven, new tech sensor to be released and expect it to be wondrous with no glitches. You also want an rf style body to wrap all this, you probably want it for 500$ too
God, I hate to agree with you…but there it is. +1
$499!
You mean the sensor is in THREE models E-M5, E-PM2 and E-PL5.
Where are all the usual haters posting that “its only been five months” or “this will be worth 200$ in a month”?
So panasonic is “clueless” and “their marketing department sucks” because the G6 is gonna be announced 10 months after the G5, but nothing to say about an epl6 5 months after the epl5? Same thing happened when the price of the plastic EP5 was posted.
this is truly olympus fanboy land. Im sure the replies will back me up
Sadly any forum that allows Olympus users to post ends up the same all brands have their fanboys but Olympus with their often mediocre { a dozen plastic pens with a feature lottery} products some of which are not exactly bargains have a “special brand ” of fanboys.Lets not forget the new Olympus shaft the customers game { $80 hoods and extortionate “special editions”}. Well I suppose someone has to pay for the gigantic fraud committed by the board, might as well be the gullible fans lol
TRAD2 this just sounds like the new e-P5 in normal retail configurations and matches the release date as well, or is that just “too simple” an answer? Colours, kit-outs, the e-Px is the Premium PEN …
e-PL6 also sounds too soon and why? The e-PL5 doesn’t need replacing at this point, come up with a new RF EVF model … this rapid, minimal upgrade behaviour is so electronic/pc/software-like. It’s insulting to the consumer in general. Hopefully just mistranslation rumor mill fodder.
@TrueHammer
Delusional & Ambitious are 2 different things .
I might be demanding but not fanatic .
My recent comments are more on motivating manufacturers to be more innovative , not to waste of resources & buyers hard earned $$$$ .
Do you think is relevant to spend new money on a sensor that already make it’s appearance 2 years ago ?
Look at DSLR world , every models with huge improvements or other mirrorless ( NEX & Fuji ) then you will realize why I pushing so hard here .
what huge improvements?
The fuji has that horrible watercolor effect and noise reduction in raw files (blasphemy) with slow and horrible af and a laggy evf. And it has less dynamic range than the em5/GH3.
The NEX 7n will use the same 24 mp sensor, which happens to be the noisiest APS C sensor ever made. Even the 3 year old GH2 is cleaner. The EVF, despite being 2.3 million dots is laggy and noisy even in good light.
It seems that no camera announced is for you and youre always waiting for whats around the corner.
I’m certainly looking around the corner, although I am very happy with what I have. Nothing wrong with that, is there?
It’s a good thing cameras don’t expect monogamy. 🙂
Neither do purses.
I’ve been looking for the perfect purse for a while. My purse was dying, and I wanted something that is small and will fit a large-sensor compact camera; I got tired of missing great shots, so I wanted to be able to have something all the time, but with high image quality. Most purses are either too big or too small or plain useless; I don’t know what designers think people carry in their purses. Certainly not cameras. Well, I finally found one. It’s a bit bigger than I hoped, but it has a separate compartment perfect for a PEN and a 75/1.8 (Yay, Olympus!), and I discovered today that the purse will also carry the 100-300 (Yay, Panasonic!) very nicely. I’m happy, although, if someone makes a smaller version for a similar price, I will be happier. It was also only $25. Yay.
The lesson of the story is that, if I didn’t have a feature list in mind, I would not have found it. I know so many people who waste their time dating the “wrong people” because they don’t have a feature list or don’t use it. I realize, sometimes, you need to go ahead and date them for a while to see if it will work out, but sometimes people fall for people, and things, that are clearly not right for them, because they don’t know what they are looking for… or should be looking for.
And a freebee advice for everyone. If you have a bad track record with relationships or with cameras, it may be that you should NEVER date people or cameras that you are attracted to. Find the one that you are slightly put off by, and that might be the right one.
interesting approach you have there……hmmmm….will try it soon.
@Ulli, the women? 😉
No…the lesson of the story is: If you keep looking expectantly around a corner you may get hit with a purse that is just big enough to fit a man AND a camera in! (Only comes in silver though).
Not only photobag for DLSR or pocketcamera, but why so many photobag producer have photobags by black and difference grey colour, this is so boring. 🙁
impossible ,new improvements all new replacement of cam series,
new sensor,new processor ,Are you pay cost of develop to oly/panny?.
first MRL was G1 with 12mpx and alittle upgrade to successor such as circuit change,
filter improve, but same magapixel,
Until they(panny) released G3 with new sensor 16mpx(except GH line)
PEN,PEN-lite from Olympus along with 12mpx before E-M5,
NEX start at 14mpx Exmore CMOS sensor(BSI / lumix use FSI)
they was upgrade to 16mpx in NEX-5N ,it was Great sensor in DR,ISO
and new NEX-6/NEX-5R had a little upgrade feature such as hybrid AF
Who is the best improvement company.
if you was richman ,please build you cam company and create new tech on new line cam ,i would pay for your company.
Most cameras are overpriced and lack true innovation; marketing by numbers is very trite but has a big following among nerdographers. Small differences between sensors have never been a concern for photographers.
Usability is the big deal for photographers, and this is where M43 is particularly bad. For the same money, or less, you can buy a proper system from Nikon or Canon and start having fun, try that.
“Usability is the big deal for photographers, and this is where M43 is particularly bad. For the same money, or less, you can buy a proper system from Nikon or Canon and start having fun, try that.”
Funny how you fail to comply with your own logic. Usability is not determined by spec sheets or feature lists but by use cases and how well a camera fits those use cases in real world situations. You also forget a very basic bit of photographers knowledge, the best camera is the one you have with you.
You confuse portability with usability. However, since you are old and decrepit, I understand your preference.
Its really simple to understand, if your camera isn’t portable enough to have with you in certain circumstances, it will be totally unusable in those circumstances. If portable means ‘small enough to fit the trunk of a hummer’, or ‘small enough to fit my coat pockets’ depends on circumstances.
Consequently, I’m not confusing portability and usability at all, rather, you simply failed to understand how those 2 things are related (note that related does not mean ‘the same thing’).
Bartie, tell us more about those “certain circumstances” that require you to have a camera with compromised usability thanks to its diminutive size. It’s not like you ever advocate any camera bigger than a pack of smokes. I’d rather carry different equipment for different tasks. No hummer needed – just a bag I can hang from my toned shoulder. I know, your camera just has to fit in your purse.
“I’d rather carry different equipment for different tasks.”
Ok, so its not just a case of you not being able to understand what others say, you actually fail to realize the consequences of your own words as well.
See, all I’m saying is that different circumstances ask for different kinds of equipment, and that I can’t determine what is practical for you or anyone else, and neither can you determine what is practical for me or anyone else. Hence, different compromises exist that fit different needs.
Some people always travel by car, and having a camera that just sits in their car is transportable enough for them. Some people usually carry a bag, and a camera fitting that is portable enough for them. For others carrying a bag most of the time is not practical, and having something that generally doesn’t require a bag is portable enough for them. That there are no circumstances that you can think of where having a significant bag (big enough for say a D600 with 2 lenses) is unpractical says a lot about your ability to look a bit beyond your own situation.
Your standard doesn’t fit all, neither does mine.
What you don’t admit is that, as soon as anyone says he’d rather be able to hold and use a camera without a two-finger death grip, you always argue in favor of small m4/3 equipment. You don’t want there to be any m4/3 gear that is larger than what you deem suitable for your purposes, those “certain circumstances.” You are completely unauthentic, not to say dishonest, and constantly spew a mind-numbingly repetitive agenda, while berating and lecturing anyone who doesn’t agree with you. You still haven’t told us under what particular and “certain circumstances” you apparently shoot all the time — should you actually find time between lengthy postings.
You may want to go check some recent gh3 related threads before making that claim.
Oh wait, don’t bother, you don’t understand what you are reading anyway.
I only stopped by to throw a rock in the pigsty. Look who squealed! 😀
It’s also funny how many users of Canon 7D & even 5D Mk II camera outfits (& some Nikons too) have been sold to have an OM-D kit instead. There have been quite a few that have actually done that. Here’s one that wants to do a trade for an OM-D outfit. http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26521
what is really funny is that the alleged success of the E-m5 has done nothing for Olympus who managed to double their losses in the year it came out. Check out the sales figures to see the truth of what mFT sells hint dirt cheap end of line little else. The I am too fat/old/lazy/ disabled to carry a 1 kg camera types are the only ones jumping ship. The ONLY advantage of mFT is size and for those prepared to throw away image quality for lightweight there are no shortage of options
@john,pun
I’m pretty sure Olympus imaging will be turning a profit for the next 12 months (figures to be announced Feb 2014)likewise I’m pretty sure canikon will announcing falling profits for the same period.
You also have zero idea of the demographics of micro four thirds users.
@Admin,
Any new news/rumors on the high-end u4/3 wide zoom that was mentioned here a month or two ago?
Its world first Olyumpus m4/3 camera to bundle with 17/1.8 lens as a kit …….
Sorry a typo
Its world first Olympus m4/3 camera to bundle with 17/1.8 lens as a kit……
it’s about time for an EP-3 replacement, isn’t it? oly’s certainly held out… OMD, new EPL and EPM… 17mm f/1.8… combined with strong competition from Fuji and Sony on the RF-style w/ corner EVF (x100s, NEX-6)… i’d say it’s about time (we’ve all been saying this forever, but still) they release a Pen with a built-in viewfinder. the OMD’s time in the spotlight is growing longer and longer… and to separate two EVF-bodies (in price as well as features/brand philosophy), i think all they really need to do is not include weather-sealing and 5-axis IBIS. EP-5 with built-in viewfinder and kitted with a 17mm f1.8 would make a great case against the fuji x100s
Yes that would be the logic, but don’t expect too much of it from Oly.
Those two features is not enough differentiation
You think there is much product differentiation at Leica or Fuji, true lamer? 🙂
lol
I thought there was no room left in amalric’s arse. The look on your face tells me otherwise.
I like the idea, although I’d really like to have 5 axis IBIS in such a camera. By now, Olympus should have been able to shrink the IBIS and the viewfinder, so maybe it fits? Skip weather-sealing and tilt screen, give it a more conventional button layout, and yer ready to go. If Pana doesn’t get its shit together, Oly must.
yes, miniaturization goes fast but the 5-axis is mostly about mechanical construction, i dont think it gets more compact that fast as we might wish. Maybe a simplfied mechanical 2 axis ibis for video could be smaller?
I don’t know why you would want the EVF to shrink. ??? That is the sort of thing is better if bigger, not smaller!??
oh man. been saving for the E-P5 for ages. C’mon Olympus, get it together. That blackmagic camera has me wondering….
maybe… maybe the killer feature in the E-P5 will be better compatibility with 4/3 lenses.
then it gets released on the E-M6 a few months later.
Improved compatility.
Your second sentence… Hmmm…
As in, it gets included on the E-M6.
But of they found a way to improve comparability, the ep5 might get if first as it is next in line.
NEX 7N is going to pose a big challenge to m43. More decent lenses coming on line for NEX = micro four thirds needs to hit a big winner this Q.
The 7n is gonna have the same mega noisy sensor as the 7, and what are those lenses?
Use a camera the way it’s supposed to be used and you won’t complain about noise. NEX 7 is perfect for low ISO landscape photography and for product photography.
If High ISO noise is all that matters, then no one would bother with cameras like the Leica M system or Medium Format cameras, or the Sigma DP Merrills, which all are not great High ISO performers, nor are they meant to be.
Panasonic isn’t exactly the master of anything, except for maybe video. And here they are getting challenged by other players in the same market and price range. So there is no place for complacency from any manufacturer. Lower tier brands can lose market share very quickly, as their users are not very loyal or not tied up in the system as much as the big two, and they can switch brands and systems easily and quickly.
So the nex 7 is only for dayligh landscape and tripod mounted product photography? I can think of about 10 cameras that are better for that.
Fact of the matter is that it wasnt marketed as that, medium format cameras have a specific market and are marketed for that, so is the d4, and the 1dx. Even leicas are marketed for the rich. But the nex 7? No. Its a consumer camera marketed as a prosumer camera thats crippled above iso 800.
Name your ten better cameras than the NEX 7 for the types of photography I mentioned that are of similar size, weight and compactness as the NEX 7 with the same level of DR and resolution and can be bought for 1100 new? It’ll no doubt be an almighty list and surely Panasonic will be at the top of it if all goes to form.
adding additional requirements was not in your first post all you said was “” NEX 7 is perfect for low ISO landscape photography and for product photography””
For Low ISO landscape and product .There are a very wide range of cameras that can do better than the Sony, the smallest and cheapest is probably the Nikon D5200 , which outperforms it in every image quality criteria. to be blunt the nex7 has minimal advantage over the better sensors in mFT .
Well said.
Low light is only one, limited aspect of photography. Most shooters rarely use ISO values above 1600 anyway. It is about time we put this aspect of imaging technology in its appropriate proportions.
As to system commitment, I think that micro 4/3 will slowly become a major player in the market as it attracts more small, innovative players such as Blackmagic design. The multi-brand standard and the sound engineering of the mount make it a preferred platform for many photographic applications. Some users are already rather heavily invested in m4/3, more so than in other mirrorless mounts.
to be fair there are rumors that the new 7n will have a “half stop “” better noise performance lol. All cameras deliver good results at base ISO.
At any given time there would be a few camera models out there in beta-testing. Some of them end up being announced and produced, but most get buried. I would not pay too much attention to such info.
I have little doubt the next announcement from Olympus will be an E-P3 successor. It’s been nearly two years since the appearance of the E-P3 so hopefully the new camera will get some truly innovative and useful features.
Black, silver and white. Camera colours are as boring as car colours are today. Or lack of them. Conformity hasn’t been this bad since the 1950’s.
This rumor is correct, E-P5 and E-PL6. Should be (FT5).
Go on. What differentiates E-PL6 and E-P5 from their predecessors and from each other? Especially if the E-P5 doesn’t get a viewfinder.
wow… there will be an E-PL6? what kind of rumour is that? This is about as relevant as saying that it will be warmer in summer. Of course there will be an E-PL6! But when?
lol, a premium cam with 14-42 kit lens? Where are these high quality lenses from Olympus?
Matthias
lol, a premium cam with 14-42 kit lens? Where are these high quality lenses from Olympus?
We have the 75mm and 60mm both very good we have the shoddily built 45mm with good image quality , we have the mediocre 12mm or even more mediocre 17mm { both lol}, we have the special 12mm { mediocre and far more expensive lol} then we have a boatload of slow { sometimes very slow } zooms . As the Oly fans would say “its all about the glass lol
Why E-PL6 while it is just becoming available in stores ? I don’t believe this Rumor…
The “trade2” could be the E-P5.. The fact it will come in white too is a hint IMO and the E-Ps are the high end Pens. So there s probably not much new there.
The E-Pl6 rumor is a little weird, unless Olympus felt they were in need to offer an E-Pl5 with WIFI support to use in tandem with smartphone apps. This seems to be where the competition is going on this year, so it could make some sense for them to hurry up the issuing of a new model featuring that.
Yes, this is a sensible interpretation. If you go to the Japanese site even they don’t make head or tails of their ‘leak’.
For the Pen series there are two disruptive technologies in the toolbox, next to increased miniaturisation. On would be the Google-like wearable EVF, the other -someone mentioned it above – increased compatibility with 4/3.
Let’s hope that the E-P5 is not another boring iteration.
Wearable EVFs are science fiction at this stage. Things may be different in 5-10 years when thinner displays with lower power consumption and higher rates of wireless data transfer become common.
4/3 lens compatibility will surely be reserved for the next high-end models.
That leaves WiFi support and multi-exposure processing the most obvious additions to an E-P5. Personally I hope for weather sealing (unlikely) and a more integrated design of the body + new external EVF (who knows). We must remember the place of the E-Px models in the lineup. Those are stylish, well-built cameras which are perhaps designed to appeal to the older generations. They are not about cutting edge technology.
I guess the E-P5 will have more new content then the gf6 or g6
E-P5 bundled with 17/1.8 in White/SLV/BLK retailing at $1000
To me makes sense of all the rumours and what realistically we should expect.
@Baruch Hashem lol the 17mm F1.8 alone is $500 the E-PL5 is also $500 the E-P3 with crap 14-42mm came out at $900 i would expect the E-P5 to be higher as they have since the E-M5 finally used a decent sensor
I agree. It sounds like the E-P5, since that line has always been touted as the more aesthetically traditional models in the PEN range.
As for the E-PL6, they pretty much release a new PEN Lite every year, don’t they?
And I would like to make a prediction of my own:
(FT5) The E-PL7 will be available in silver, black, white and red.
I just came back from Japan and my friend who work for OM told me that the new OMD will be ready on this July/August
Hope your right… now, how to improve the omd?
Wrong.
Could this point the way for a sensible rationalisation. E-PM series entry level. E-PL enthusiast / upgrade. Then two high end options(Hopeful) E-P series with integrated EVF RF style, and OM-D series with PD support for 4/3 glass. Personally I would like the see 4/3 support in the RF style, but somehow I doubt that would make commercial sense.