A fake image of the GH3 of course 🙂
Take that with a grain of salt. It’s coming via a new Asian source! This is an extended GH3 spec list (some part were already posted weeks ago). As usual I would be happy if other sources can confirm or deny the spec list. Just send me a message through the anonymous contact form you see on the right or contact me at 43rumors@gmail.com. Thanks!
And here it is the GH3 spec list (reminder, not coming from trusted sources!):
Sensor: 15.5 mega-pixel sensor
Iso: Iso 160-12800, extends to 80-51200
Speed: 6.7fps
Body: Magnesium alloy body, weather sealed, thinner and lighter than GH2, overall design evolves with improved ergonomics
LCD: 3.2″ ips, 1050k-dots, with capacitive touch screen (multi-touch depending on final setting in firmware). LCD tilt-able
EVF: new EVF with 2.06 mega-dots
Card: double SDXC slots
Flash: wireless flash trigger (pending new flagship flash gun)
Video: 1080p60, 24Mbps AVCHD, super slow-mo:480p @ 220fps (reduced FOV)
Battery: battery life >500 CIPA
GPS: in-camera GPS
Wifi: optional wifi accessory
Other features: firmware is not finalized. in-cam HDR, multi-frame night scenes will go into production units once qualified.
X kit: GH3 + 12-35X
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Yes it looks good! But it also looks like a $1500 body…
Then 3000$ for the Kit? I hope not…
Looks very good indeed but I see the price going up my a long shot. I’d rather live without weather sealing and double SDXC card slots and pay 150$/€ less.
These specs speak 1500$/€ and that’s not the best news.
All I need is a electronic first curtain shutter for astrophotography, 1080p @ 60 FPS, 720p @ 120 FPS, and 480p @ 440 FPS. Mix that with the 35-100mm lens and I would be a happy camper.
For astrophotography, a B-shutter with a black cloth will do.
Weather-sealed?
Does this mean the 12-35mm X is weather-sealed, or are internal-focusing lenses considered to be weather-sealed for practical purposes??
Ok so far. Want electronic shutter for fast and silent operation. Globsl shutter seems unrealistic. AF tracking is essential too if they are trying to move this up market.
@Brod1er
pretty sure the GH3 will have AF 3D tracking….
1080p60, 24Mbps AVCHD. I would guess more likely 28Mbps for 60p.
the GH3 will need a wireless remote (hopefully bundled with GH3) with main video and photo functions…. any word @ admin ?
Not bad. I’m really hoping for better low light performance and less rolling shutter. I also hope they don’t raise the price too much compared to the GH2.
By the way, found this on youtube (I already posted this), that seems to be a GH3 test with no rolling shutter. I know it’s probably fake, but I hope it’s not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQfVM5ETzV4
@Gbk
that video seems plausible, wish I could extract the meta data from it 🙁
WTF pans their footage like that?
I have never seen any usable footage that couldn’t be fixed with After Effects Warp Stabilizer and I might even say that 99% of the times I wouldn’t even correct it, the other 1% of the times we are talking about downhill videos.
After Effects warp stabilizer can’t fix everything! Sometimes it produces warp artifacts and you allways lose resolution because the image is cropped and scaled.
But this video isn’t about image stabilization, it’s about Rolling Shutter!
You can never completly remove rolling shutter in post. Even if you could I’d rather have a camera with no rolling shutter.
I hope this video is true or I’ll be disappointed….
You’ll lose much more resolution on motion blur than on scaling just because you din’t stabilized the camera. And it’s not liquid that you lose resolution when you can use content-aware fill.
Also, Warp Stabilizer does remove rolling shutter.
Deshaker is also a fine alternative that does both, if you are on VirtualDub and tune it far enough.
Seems like a large bump in specifications, which is risky. Lots of new features, some of which are likely to go wrong (remote flash, HDR, WiFi, EVF). A thinner, metal body implies a completely different design. Sounds like a hybrid between OM-D and NEX-7 with a few extra features.
Resistive touch screen would be better
+1
Agree.
-1
Hated GH2 touch screen.
+1. Capacitive better.
Hell yes. Finally. Resistive needs to go the way of the dodo.
Just buy some $20 capacitive gloves!
meh.. not a big deal
Wireless flash trigger!?! I hope, it’s not just wireless TRIGGERING, but complete wireless TTL flash CONTROL…
I don’t really rate the GH2 that high (I don’t do video) but the GH3 sounds interesting, if it looks like a fake dslr it’ll be a disappointment but if the specs are good enough then I’ll be looking!
Dude there will be a riot if they abandon the current form factor – many of us strongly prefer it!
+10K
Yep, especially if Panasonic ditches the fully articulated screen for a TiltyScreen™. I had my doubts about it at first, but I’d be loathe to give up full articulation at this point!
Sounds as if they were copying Olympus.
Some days or some weeks ago, Panasonic gave an interview stating, as if that was a great discovery, that they were looking for new markets, like women ! But that move was already initiated by Olympus when they launched the E-P1
After that Panasonic came with the GF series, especially the GF2/3 which were miniaturized and strapped of buttons.
Now they seem to go after the OM-D ! The only things I’m interested in are the GPS and the WIFI. But I prefer the OM-D and hope that Olympus will use the accessory port to provide us with these capabilities.
+1, really wish Olympus would add a GPS and/or wifi accessory
I’ve been using a flip/tilt screen for at least a decade, starting with my Canon G3, and I’ve come to realize I mostly just use it to tilt up or down, and that having to flip it out first just makes it more cumbersome. The only time I ever flip it forward is for the occasional arm-length self-portrait, which is only something I do for those touristy snapshots which are usually outdoors where it’s too bright to see the screen anyway.
I guess I do sometimes like to view the screen from off to the side, but a brighter screen with a wide angle of view could mostly make up for that.
That the articulated screen can be closed and the screen protected is an advantage over the tilt-only screen. Also, tilting in portrait aspect is advantageous.
I’ve used cameras with a fully articulated screen for at least as long and I know I commonly use them for much more than just tilt up and down. A non fully articulated screen would be a huge negative to me.
What is with the 15.5 MP number anyway? That is far lower than the GH2, and unless it is a trade off for much higher DR, or improved shutter, it would be another big negative.
Exactly.
I do stealth street shooting with the screen at 90°.
When shooting small rooms in apartments with my 7-14mm, often I’ll jam myself into a corner, hold the GH2 over my head and flip the screen around to compose… while trying to keep myself out of the shot. It works great!
120 fps @ 720p please…
+1
that would be amazing! 😀
+1
+10K
+1
+60 to be precise.
Who needs even bigger screen?
Nice list, but global shutter is missing 🙁 …
Definitely.
GH2’s ergonomy is already bad enough with current oversize travel TV.
How useful can HDR be in a camera?
Very useful if it spits out RAW.
That’s what Photoshop is for.
Keep the GH3 fluff-free, that sort of thing (“art” filters) is Oly’s specialty.
+1000 no fluff…more beef!
NO.
Photoshop can’t be a substitute for a bad capture nor will it reveal DR that simply isn’t there. 🙁
Either you guys are perfectly happy with the GH2 DR or you didn’t understood my post. This isn’t Art Filter #13422 request!
I’m asking for HDR stacking in RAW, which is something that no camera has ever done before (and don’t ask me why, because it shouldn’t be complicated when everyone is doing it in JPEG which is next to useless for me).
BTW, stacking isn’t all about HDR, it can also bring noise reduction and super resolution almost for free.
Of course Photoshop can’t correct for a bad capture, but isn’t the job of the photographer to prepare for a good capture… take the time to setup properly with a tripod and whatever else is needed.
Granted, it sounds like a potentially cool feature, but how many people will actually use it, besides you… every once in a while. 😉
Yes, there are lots of potentially cool features that could be added, but how much will they really add to basic usability, which really is more important than piling on more whiz-bang features.
I would of gone for a bigger sensor myself but I guess you got to keep the speed up don’t you.
That would be an amazing camera. Hope there will be an optional batterygrip….
LCD needs to be Tilt-Swivel, and not just Tilt.
Absolutely. Deal braker.
+1 here as – the fully articulating screen is one of the best features of the GH line and would be a deal breaker for me to upgrade if Panasonic lose it. I certainly hope this rumor is wrong.
+1, I also want a fully articulating display. Moreover, I didn’t see any mention of a multi-aspect sensor which I also like very much in my GH2. If both are missing from the GH3, I might as well go for the Olympus E-M5 with its advanced in-camera image stabilization.
+1 Just wanted to tack another plus one on the tilting LCD, 100% deal breaker if they go with the tilt only.
This is a tilt year or something. But look on the bright side: it is still more than what 5Dmk3/D800/D4 got.
NX20 seems to be the only mirrorless with both EVF and swivel LCD this year.
Damn straight!
a straight swivel?
A better “photo” camera! But for what this series does best — video, not good enough. 🙁 (okay blackmagic camera was too exciting)
And wonder how much would it cost with X kit 12-35 😮
+1, prolly my biggest gripe with the omd, please keep the articulating screen!!
2 Cards slots doesn’t seem realistic, same for thinner body while keeping EVF (EVF has to portrude from the camera unless some big redesign is done) and tiltable/twistable screen (the distance from the mount to the sensor doesn’t give much space to have a screen behind it while making it thinner).
Well … I won’t buy it, that’s for sure, moneis are hard to get hold on these days…
Slow motion seems doable (maybe a bit differently spec’ed), HDR and Night shot modes while easy to implement given that other Panny cameras have it, might not be that suitable for an high-end camera, but always an welcome addiction.
GPS and WiFi … doesn’t seem likely… unless there is an accessory port of some sort.
Anyway… price will be scary…
No. I want MUCH better DR from the files. Something in the D800-range would suffice.
Man, you are too late (about 36 hours, to be more precise) on the news: Mamiya just announced new digital backs. I think it is only just if we demand from GH3 the same level of DR.
I think this will not be a gh3
but something like a gx1 with evf
remember olympus is bringing at photokina a pro version of E-5 em-5 is not a pro version.. so clearly this “evolution of gx1” will compete with em-5 and later the gh3 will be aimed at E-5 successor
smaller and lighter body – must be evolution of gx series
tiltable lcd – I couldn´t believe panny would change the swiveling lcd for a tiltable one
new evf with 2mega dots – sounds a bit boring.. something like the em-5 has but not something that should the gh3 have
gh3 must have global shutter + avc ultra codec .. avchd is probably at the end of the life.. it will be here probably till gh3 comes out.. so a person who would buy the evolution of gx1 will not be primarly focused on video.. that´s why this cam will have avchd only and no higher bitrates like the gh2
avc ultra codec would be nice.
wishful thinking: native pro res / DNxHD
I think panny wouldn´t include such codecs when they have already a capable codec for grading and pro work..
If the GH3 will not be revolutionary .. I´ll probably buy em-5 for stills and blackmagic camera for work
Matt, you’re spot on here. These specs line up as a GX2 or GX1-Pro, and definitely not a GH3.
yup, I´m 100% shure these are not the gh3 specs
1. no global shutter, no oled viewfinder, no avc ultra or higher bitrates – I think these are reserved for gh3
2. olympus has em-5 a gx1 styled camera with evf ..something that panny doesn´t have now..and will announce at photokina a larger (dslr form/pro) E-5 successor .. so I think we will see a GX2/pro soon with x lenses and later we will finally preorder our GH3 🙂
Yes the specs do point to a GX2 with EVF rather than the GH3. That is why the tilting screen and 15.5 MP sensor. I think the 3.2″ increased LCD size is because it may be based on 16:9 as several other camera manufactures have done. Those expecting more video capabilities were based on a GH3 not a GX2. If you are worried about losing the reversible screen just get the coming G5 which likely will have the same video capability as rumored above.
I sincerely hope you are correct about a GX2 or GXP or whatever it might be called. A logical move but have lost a bit of faith that Panny will pull it off.
24Mbps for 1080p60 would mean “1080p60 unusable until some firmware hack allows higher bit rate” 🙂
So the global shutter has vanished from list of rumored features? That would be a strong reason to upgrade from a GH2…
Would also like in-camera image stabilisation but it’s not something Panasonic usually provides.
Where is Fokuspeak 🙁 I want that so bad, and alot of ohter manual-lens user also! pls Panasonic 🙂
firmware update to GH2 as well /fingerscrossed
Is that the new sensor registered in patent right included in GH3 ? This is important otherwise I’ll skip the purchase .
Wireless Flash? It should be Wi-fi.
When each mobile phone has Wi-Fi, there is no quation wi-Fi should be in bigger cameras. Look at new Canon 5DmkIII
and flash with Wi-Fi for it.
GPS – the same situation. We have it in all phones.
This looks like a dream list. But it looks too good to be true, and I doubt that the GH3 will have all these specs: it seems more to be what one person has cooked up as his/her dream camera. But I may be wrong…
Add the global shutter to this list and it would be the perfect update! Maybe it’s still possible, though… In any case, if this list is true, it sounds like my next purchase. How much do you think the X kit (with 12-35mm f/2.0 lens) would price at? I’m hoping south of $1,500…
<1500$ (or GBP or EUR or whatever) would be a dream. But as the Lens will cost about 1000GBP I don't think so.
It shouldn't cost more than the A77+16-50mm in my opinion. The specs are very similar:
– Weathersealed
– EVF
– Video
– About the same amount of light
– Focal Length & Aperture of the Kit Lens
the GH3 would be smaller, the A77 faster shooting sequence. That would be a nice choice to have :-)…
If the lens is f/2.0 then the lens itself may be unlikely to cost south of $1500.
But it won’t be.
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I’m 23 years old and I dont need GPS and/or WiFi on a camera…what is up with 24mbps?? Didnt panasonic learn their lesson from last time?…and I dont want a capacitive touch screen…ITS A CAMERA not a phone…if I wanted a ”Iphone” touch screen I would have bought a nokia…and what the hell does ‘extended ISO’ mean???
Touch focus work better with capacitive screen.
If the swivel becomes ’tilt only’ then I would expect it to be priced below the G3 (if it is going to get my interest that is).
If the rumor is actually for an enhanced GX1, then the specs make sense. This could be a GX2, GX1-Pro or the rumored GL1. A tilt display makes perfect sense in this regard.
headphone jack !
better iso quality !
When is this camera going to be announced?…The only thing I really care about at this point is IQ improvement. Especially DR. Certainly not Wifi or GPS. Give me the beef. “Wireless flash pending unannounced flash.”???????? Wait Oly had that covered awhile back. (it is 2012..and that is a feature that actually make photography less effort). Well, it is hard to believe that Fuji can make a $1700 camera that autofocuses like a camera from 1990. WTF?
I may dump my G3 and GX1 (good cameras…but I want better) and buy an OM…better still camera from what I have been reading..
Blah, blah blah. DR is the latest essential fashion ingredient that you cannot live without. the sheep have been told they must have DR as wide as their TV butts or they will never be in the club. Madness.
+1,000
WRONG CHUCK. I have been shooting for 40 years. The DR on my G3 and my GX1 is lacking. It needs to be improved. If you knew anything about photography, art or commercial….and actually used a wide range of digital cameras, you would know that the issue is real. My highlights are blown out with no detail way more (no scientific) than my 5DMarkII. That I am sure of from personal experience. I have no faith in DXo etc…but this is a problem that this experienced photographer would like to see improve. So fashion that sheephead!
Supporting Bob B. I have been shooting for 51 years. DR is about blown highlights, about natural skin tones, about shadows not being just black. It is about really beautiful pictures.
Yeah I can’t bear to think back 5 years ago, those low res, noisy professional images were dreadful everyone in the business was complaining at the time and as for the DR don’t even go there!
🙂 idiot 🙂 5 years ago…no one was shooting on a MFT camera.
Duh! Wake up. The point being pro’s were using low res APSC sensors at the time which technically would be outclassed by recent M4/3 sensors yet were deemed of professional quality only a short while ago. I presume you also realise the 4/3 format was launched in 2003. The Micro version isn’t any smaller.
Bob B is right, Chuck ….. you up-chucked on this one. 😀
I knew I could count on your for hilarious support!!!!! eh…who cares…
Did you buy an OM?
In my world 4/3’s and Micro 4.3’s are not and were not pro quality. Too many better choices…but I think that someday soon …they will be.
For Bob and hilarious Charlie.
http://blog.giuliosciorio.com/?p=550
no fears…I just have better equipment and I use it to give a client the best that I can give. I have sold MFT prints in galleries…no problem. Its all getting betterer. I don’t like to give blown highlights. I am very critical. The bald-headed guy with the big glasses can do whatever he wants!
Silver on order, no delivery in sight. 🙁
Blown highlights area result of incorrect exposure choice by the operator. The critical perfectionist needs to learn his trade for ‘betterer’ results.
I hate the focus of the x-pro1 but it’s only as bad my EP2. And I’d be upgrading to the omd if either, going to wait for the next 12 months maybe.
Global shutter is the make or break for me.
look good
but they forgot embeded/automatic timelaspe photo and video mode, focus peaking, and “live time” (like oly)
> Body: Magnesium alloy body, weather sealed, thinner and lighter than GH2, overall design evolves with improved ergonomics
> Battery: battery life >500 CIPA
WTF? Is that even possible to have dimensions less than those of the GH2 and battery life almost twice longer?
New battery! 😉 LOL!
Change of handgrip might give more space for battery?
While still possible to reduce body height, length and/or depth from mounting front to back, e.g. thanks to smaller EVF and tilt-only LCD?
wifi should be mandatory. It will be used for tethering with phone/pad. GPS is a waste! Can get GPS positioning from phone.
Right, you can get it from phone. But with built-in-GPS you dont have to get positioning from phone anymore. I don’t want to waste my time in updating the metadata manually.
I vote for Panasonic to get rid of the cheesy, crass and tacky, hideously ugly, shiny golden “L” logo from the front. Hell, follow Oly’s lead and get rid of all the crappy advertising.
WTF is that? It looks like a cheap Windows laptop festooned with a zillion stickers.
Thank the Gods for electrical tape!
I covered all the tacky advertising crap on my GH2. It looks slick with my Nokton 25mm. 😉
+1
bad habits of Japanese consumer electronics design
No kidding. It is just a tool, but I wish the labeling was a bit less cluttered and discreet.
That L is easy to get rid off. Lift it off with a sharp knife- it is glued.
It is that white LUMIX on the hump that is bothersome.
The “L” is recessed on the GH2.
It always is. Use a sharp knife (exacto type)and that does the job. 🙂
It’s the first thing I do on all my bodies: use black electrical tape to cover all text strings and logos on the front of the camera.
I bet you never saw the Pen’s lens caps with the artsy supposed retro looking F ! But at least this is a customizable addition, not one you need to blacktape.
http://www.fr.olympus.ch/consumer/pen-camera_pen_21693_pen-camera_lc-37_f_logo_22779.htm
It looks like a wish list to me. The greatly increased battery life looks particularly unlikely and I don’t think it would have the GPS either. I would welcome most aspects of that specification, though, particularly having the weather sealing and lower ISO setting.
Unfortunately, I think the price would be £1500+ with a 12-35 f2.8 lens.
Nothing in these pseudo-specs sounds outright implausible, at least. I’m not sure how they’re going to make the camera thinner AND add dual card slots, but that’s a minor point.
One intriguing note is the claim of wireless flash (I just bought an Olympus E-M 5 largely because it has this feature, although I’m keeping my GH2 as well.) I had thought that Panasonic would never get wireless TTL flash for patent reasons (IIRC, the technology was invented by Minolta and then patent-swapped to other traditional-camera companies.)
But now that Canon has introduced built-in radio TTL (meaning presumably that there are chipsets available for this) then possibly Panasonic could sidestep that issue and use a radio setup instead of the traditional method of extra control flash pulses. That would get them a seat at the wireless TTL party, AND with a technically superior system. All speculation, of course…
It’s about time we see a Global Shutter already. This Spec Sheet is very disapointing.
“Body: Magnesium alloy body, weather sealed, thinner and lighter than GH2, overall design evolves with improved ergonomics”
I doubt that is true.
Using a magnesium alloy body and sealing it will make the GH3 heavier than the GH2.
I’d guess that magnesium alloy would be thinner than the current plastic on metal frame design, so that’s not implausible. I certainly hope they don’t shrink it or turn it into a NEX-7 faux rangefinder!
Not believeable. The GH2 has an 18 MP multi-aspect sensor. Why would the GH3 go backwards?
higher MP not necessary a good thing … esp for video
Not necessarily always good, but mostly good still, especially for software corrected lenses and noise reduction…
Seems reasonable to me. Panasonic have GPS in a lot of their compacts now so I don’t see why this years range of micro-4/3 cameras shouldn’t have it. A lot of people don’t care (especially as it drains battery), but it’s a feature I love and desire from my OMD as I do travel photography.
Built in wifi should trickle into cameras too this. Pro cameras should really be tethering with it now, don’t know why they aren’t, wifi isn’t exactly cutting edge technology.
Wireless flash – if panasonic can’t come up with something new here, they should fork out for a licence from someone else, Olympus being the obvious choice.
Everything else is a bit expected, would be interested to see that EVF. I hope they keep the tilt-swivel screen and multi-aspect sensor, key differences from Olympus that they should keep.
Don’t see the point of a 3.2″ rear screen though. that’s quite a bit bigger and the LCD just eats up real estate leaving little room for buttons. Not sure a problem on full frame beasts but on a micro4/3 it seems unnecessary.
I won’t be buying it (initially) anyway, happy with my OM-D and it’s IBIS. Would consider one a bit later once it’s dropped in price though if it gets the same reputation for video as the GH2 has.
Wow, there is a lot of stuff in there which seems very good, but unlikely. For example, expandable ISO is not something Pana ever did. And then the sensor. Less MP than the GH2? When even the G3 has 16 MP? Overall, it sounds like a huge improvement / change from the GH2. I can’t think of a recent camera successor that had such a tremendously different feature list. Even the Canon MkIII was just a minor update, and it is the update to a 3 year old camera.
I’ll be ready to buy a new camera this fall. I think it’s going to be between the OM-D, the GH2/GH3 and the Samsung NX20 (yes the Samsung NX20) since they are coming up with an impressive lineup of lenses, especially some damn amazing primes.
In many ways looks good. Remote flash is definitely a plus, as is wifi if it works well. I don’t much care about a magnesium body – I’ve never managed to break a plastic body, not even in my news photographer days.
Most of all I would like to see electronic shutter – for silent operation and low vibration – but apparently I will have to wait another generation. More realistically, a bigger buffer should be easy and cheap. Better follow focus would be nice.
As others have said, this looks like a pricey body, but probably it will be no higher than the competition from Fuji or Sony. I’m all in favor of low price, but if it takes $1200 or $1500 to deliver the features and quality I’ll find a way to come up with it.
Hands too BIG, camera tiny…no fit!!!
1080p60 means AVCHD 2.0 and AVCHD 2.0 means 28Mbit/s … another indicator that this is all fabricated out of thin air!
Why exactly does it have to be thinner and lighter? The GH form factor appeals to a market that doesn’t need or want thinner and lighter. Yes, Panasonic still doesn’t get it. Guess they’re following their research that says 80% of Japanese m43 users are women, so that’s the market they’re catering for. Dumb.
If ergonomy is improved, why would you want thicker and heavier? I understand that fit and usability is important, but as long as these qualities are mastered, I would gladly appreciate a reduction to unnecessary bulk. I guess that’s the key word, “unnecessary.”
I just want to second the head phone jack. It’s the only reason my boss won’t buy one at work.
Wishful thinking: the new lens is 14-35, not 12.
Video specs is not that impressive, hacked GH2 is capable of 44 Mbps, running stable. It would be some time before the GH3 is hacked, if ever.
And where is that global shutter? It was already available in 2010 and there is a camera with it already.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/7969/blackmagic-cinema-cameras-sensor-has-global-shutter-made-by-bae-systems
The sources coming out of this site have always claimed the new X lens to be 12-35mm. What makes you think it will start at 14mm?
Please let the Remote Flash function use the Olympus method so that it doesn’t work with Panasonic flashes only.
I like to reuse my Metz-58 🙂 wireless – it worked great with the e-3
Control wheel will really be in the front?
It’s just a front shot of the GH1 from dpreview with “GH1” changed to “GH3”, so nothing official (also note the misaligned lens relative to the finder hump, because it was not shot perfectly en-face by dpreview).
The best news is: As soon as the GH3 is on the market the OM-D will become cheaper. 🙂
The better EVF of GH3 is fine. The only tiltable LCD would be a big loss and a stupid decision of Pana.
Not much differences between the two cams in general for Photography. I even suppose the OM-D might already have the new sensor technologie of the GH3. Where else should the improvements come from?
No serious Photographer needs build in HDR. Nightshot might be interesting for street photography, but means alwasy less quality. GPS is only usefull to run your cam akku out of energie. A seperate GPS will do better and you can always buy the newest technologie.
For myself I found out a strong need for a build in IBIS in order to use old lenses. Thus go to the OM-D.
I am happy to pay a lot more ( $2,000+ for the body ) for the GH3 if the performance is there…
For me it all comes down to how good the video performance is, otherwise I will stick with my GH2 and buy an Olympus OM-D E-M5 for still photos.
well… im happy to pay $3000+ and i work for panasonic 🙂
not really though
Only 24Mbps is a disappointment.
Maybe it’s a typo from the source! I hope to get more info soon…
I think I’ll stick to my plan on buying an em5. Those gh3 specs are really good & plausible, but I also think it’s too good to be true at this time. My opinion is that, it’s only after for the em5 sales. After all, when the gh3 is announce, buyers will still wait for many months for it to be available to the market…
Anyway, exciting times as always for us m43 users. Now, where are those new Lumix & Zuiko lens announcements =)
Am I the only one who wants to keep the 18MP? The current MP IQ is pretty darn good till at least 1600 ISO if not 3200. I like the fact that I can crop in closer. I don’t want them to increase it to 20 or 24MP, but I don’t want them to reduce it either.
1080 60p and 720 120fps is a must. DREAM 4k video, but I know that it is a fantastic dream, but maybe by September it may not be so fantastic. I do realize that the camera will be closer to 1500, but I am actually okay with it as long as there are significant improvements in image and video specs. Don’t care so much about weather sealing and better build than GH2. The current build of GH2 keeps it light. I don’t want a heavier body.
I hope the articulated screen is not a casualty of weather sealing. To me that’s part of what makes the camera so usable. Isn’t there some way to compromise like having the weather sealing only work with the LCD in the closed position or via a rear sealing accessory?
How about tilting the EVF?
Any audio changes?
GPS/WiFi/Wireless Flash…I don’t care.
Wireless remote? please!
Faster frame rates, please
Global Shutter? I haven’t done much filming running from Syrian forces or participating in extreme sports.
Megapixels? I’d prefer a compromise that favors sensitivity, dynamic range and color depth.
Logos, Text, and Graphics…I don’t care, put adds on it if it makes it cheaper. Or, sell a vanity option for posers.
Could they use the crop mode to increase FPS in RAW mode? Seems like there’s exploitable, untapped potential there.
How about an anamorphic mode?
I still think I’ll stick with my GH1 and buy more glass until they throw in hookers and blow with every purchase.
The spec’s sound very realistic, and what I’d expect from a GH3. Love the dual card slot, that would be awesome, as would the high-res electronic viewfinder. And about time they had a wireless flash implementation, hope they just use the Olympus system for that.
As long as there’s significant improvement in high ISO performance, I could see myself owning one of these.
Makes me glad I didn’t jump on the E-M5 bandwagon. Not that it’s a bad camera, I just like the GH series better for what I do.
The only thing I want, is for Panasonic to FINALLY produce a battery grip for these stupid cameras. Once little battery does not last long, especially when doing video.
Where iz global shutter and 4k wideo?
I like 108060p for slow motion. The super slow motion at a highly reduced resolution doesn’t seem so useful for me. I hope they are keeping 23.976, 25, and 29.97 rates though, more important than 60.
I like the LCD being tilt only, don’t need full articulating, if I did, I’d add my own outboard monitor anyways.
I do not like touch screens at all, hope that gets axed.
Not too concerned about the AVCHD encoding or framerate, keep the HDMI output clean and uncompressed please and will use the onboard recording just for holidays and capturing moments with my kids.
I hope they get rid of the SLR hump, and like that the size is going down / weight reduced, but camera is for the most part small enough already.
I also like the reduced resolution, especially if it retains or improves on existing performance.
Seems like somebody’s wish list more than anything. We will see 1080p60 for sure, it will probably actually be 28 mbps not 24 mbps (avchd progressive spec) but dual card slots? why? What’s the point of that when SDXC cards are at 64 GB and rising?
Speed and reliability come to mind, as well as the option to store different formats on different cards. It obviously has its usage as it is a standard feature on pro SLRs.
That said, I doubt this is what m43 users are waiting for. Personally I’d rather have an second control dial and additional tactile controls (placed near your fingertips – not underneath the palm of your hand), better build quality and advanced features such as an electronic shutter and so on.
15.5MP is very conservative, even more so for a multi-aspect sensor. This means 14MP effectively. Strange, unless this comes with *substantial* (as in on another league) sensitivity and DR improvement.
AVCHD or the new format !?
F2
Why tease us like this?
– gps with compass is nice for organization later
– built in HDR time saver – adjustable solid HDR would be a killer and I would buy… Ie DR is important.
– iq is in the lens – but higher iq at higher ISO
– Panoramic in camera is handy & fun
– wireless ? I like my eye fi, but it eats batteries, don’t need it
– Sony style battery count down minutes, very nice
– I like a lot of the features on sony’s, the iq on our canon, high iso on Nikon…
– like the size but want less megapixels for more battery life… Dual sdxc as waste vs more battery for most people
– price, price, price per good image
– flash – hmm. I can slave pretty well now, 3rd party gear – pana’s is way way to pricey.
Global shutter – lifetime of camera does go up…
I have gh2 2 years now, what will make me want to upgrade?
What will for you?
stop the mp race. i want more dr
Just wondering, what would be the ideal video bitrate for the GH3 upgrade? It seems like the consensus here is that 24Mbps is too low. I’m guessing they would be able to do more with new hardware.
I’m not too concerned about video rate. For some 24 is fine, for others, the very codec itself will be the issue. I don’t think it is that important, make it 24 for built in recording and keep the HDMI clean / uncompressed for those that want to do something more advanced, using something like an Atmos, Ki Pro, or Sound Devices PIX recorder.
What are you talking about? G3 sensor is 16mp, this is a step down in mega-pixels.
I don’t care about photos, I have a Canon for that! I do like the upgraded video specs.
The only thing concerning me is the supposedly smaller and thinner design. The GH2 is too damn tiny as is. It needs to be BIGGER, at least the size of a Canon Rebel.
Also, I want a mother flipping 3.5mm audio in jack dang it!
Oh and 12p at 720p would be nice as well.
@S
what’s a “mother flipping 3.5mm audio in jack” ?
NO IBIS NO DEAL!!!!!
I would really like in-camera RAW conversion similar to what the Fuji cameras can do.
I don’t see any of the following:
* tethered shooting (should actually be trivial to implement for USB, yet still missing)
* higher dynamic range (not exactly state of the art anymore)
* peaking or 1:1 magnification or a similar software based focus assist technique WHILE FILMING (relying on a bulky external monitor is a severe limitation for such a small and lightweight camera)
any views on how this camera would be for birds-in-flight pics?
would screen blackout during burst shots? would focus be fast enough?