Our reader “Alan” just sent us the latest newsletter from the Focus on Imaging show that will take place in Birmingham on 4 – 7 MARCH 2012:
“Olympus – new enthusiast centred product
Focus 2012 will be the first UK viewing of Olympus’ hot new high-end product aimed at the enthusiast market. To be formally announced on 8 February, Olympus promises an action-packed stand full of surprises to mark the occasion – One Major camera’s much anticipated first public view in the UK. We can’t tell you what but there is a clue beginning with One.”
I am working a lot on the rumors front. You know I am a bit conservative and I try to post good rumors only. I am right now checking some info I got about the sensor. If the rumors I got are correct than the sensor is really NEW! And different than the one used for the [shoplink 26836]Panasonic GX1[/shoplink]. Let’s cross the fingers guys! This could be a good shot from Olympus!
P.S.: Daywalker just told me the first black 12-50mm weather sealed lens fro m43 is now for sale on [shoplink 28378 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink].
P.P.S.: Someone asked me if I will go to the show in Birmingham. Answer, I don’t know. I am already using some of my holiday bonus to work on the Olympus OM rumors. But I would love ot go there!
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The chances that the sensor would be a really new one are fairly minor. I don’t think there would be so much 16 MP MFT sensors on the global market right now…
Well it could be an Olympus design, manufactured by some other company, or couldn’t it?
Yeah, Toshiba for example. They make sensors for Fuji and Fuji is going to invest in Olympus. I wonder if there are ownership ties between Fujifilm and Toshiba.
Maybe Toshiba is going to invest in Olympus, well that was reported. Look to see who their banker is I believe all three share the same banker. Mitsu Bank, or something like that.
If the Olympus had been able to design a new sensor from scratch they would have done it for the E-P3 as well, wouldn’t they?
a new sensor takes time….there were rumors about a something new in march last year…so it makes sense…at least, lets hope so!…
Nah, these companies have made it clear that they want to try and bleed their customers as much as they can. I have no doubts that there are dramatically better sensors for m43, but they are being held back for future products.
m43 needs a dramatic leap in IQ, and high ISO performance. They allowed the competition to catch up too quickly in the mirrorless market.
I’m hoping that the introduction of the Nikon 1 system (smaller sensor with better DR) and Canon’s new G1X (m43-size sensor that’s probably better), Olympus has realizes that it just can’t milk the old 12mp sensor anymore. It would be about time if they don’t want to lose more customers.
That is what competition is for. To prevent overcharging by offering choices.
Yes m4/3 is for its size not sensitive enough.
They might still have been under contract with Panasonic back then.
I would like to know where the Panasonic contract stuff eer came up. I mean, this was always just a rumor. A good guess but never confirmed.
well 90% here is about guessing…i guess 😉
I am skeptical about it too.
Get used to that a sensor somehow modified or tweaked is considered as a brand new one.
It didn’t take long for my eyes to see that sensors employed in Fuji X100 and X Pro 1 have a core of a Sony made CMOS type.
Don’t mind to be wrong though.
Canon flirting with Olympus?
Look at this image:
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canong1x/images/Sensorsizes.png
It shows that Canon has cropped their original 3:2 aspect ratio EF-S DSLR sensor to a 4:3 aspect ratio sensor slightly larger than the Four Thirds size for their new G1X compact camera. All new Fujifilm cameras has a 3:2 aspect ratio, why didn’t Canon use 3:2 this time?
Maybe Canon has a long term strategy, like Fujifilm just executed, i.e. to enter the MILC segment in due time. Before that, Canon could supply Olympus with the almost perfectly fit CMOS sensor, which also would allow multi-aspect ratio since it’s oversized to nominal MFT.
Since Sony is selling sensors to other camera manufacturers, why couldn’t Canon do the same? Volume sales is important, unless Canons production capacity is restricted. But Canon recently also equipped their S100 with an in house CMOS sensor.
Can the Olympus OM-D already have a Canon sensor? It isn’t impossible, but the development cycle for a camera might be as long as two years, and could have gone in parallell with Canon developing the G1X for the same sensor?
Certainly Canon knows the market demands for small and successfully designed cameras, see eg. their IXUS line. They also used a smaller EF-S sensor than others for the APS-C segment. Why would Canon enter the MILC with a larger APS-C sensor, when size and portability seems beneficial (like Panasonic & Olympus shows).
So, is the sensor in the new Olympus OM-D made by Canon?
As far as I understand, Canon just cropped their existing APSc sensor for this camera. The 4/3 aspect ratio is more efficient in using the lens surface so going from 3/2 to 4/3 aspect ratio enabled them to shrink the lens, which of course is very high priority in a compact camera.
4:3 is squarer than 3:2 and therefore fits the imaging circle more efficiently. This means that lenses can be made smaller, and making that retractable lens as compact as possible must have been a major goal of Canon’s. I guess that’s the reason why Canon chose 4:3. I guess they made it just a tiny bit bigger than m43 in order to say that the size is between m43 and APS-C, therefore implying that it might be halfway in between. 🙂
It could be a Canon sensor, but Canon has most to lose from the rise of mirrorless, so I guess they wouldn’t want to speed up the revolution by helping out Olympus!
Unless they are planning to join m43 for their upcoming mirrorless. 😉
Heh! That’d be nice! But admin reported not long ago that no-one else wants to join m43. If Canon, the market leader were to join m43 it’d effectively be ceding its leadership to Olympus in that Olympus established all the major design specifications for the system (as I understand it). Can’t see Canon humbling themselves like that!
Unless they see the opportunity to manufacture and sell sensors to Olympus, Panasonic, and use them themselves.
Panasonic can continue to use their sensors on the GH lines which have always been unique. But the rest of the products would benefit from something different.
I doubt it, but its possible.
That would be awesome. But seems highly improbable. In that case one might even think Canon would join m43!! :p Hoping for the best!
Don’t get your hopes up. Remember the “not invented here” syndrome.
One Major camera?
There is a clue beginning with One?
Now I’m a bit lost, I’ve got no clue what they’re talking about :), except that OM now means One Major.
“High-end product aimed at the enthusiast market” is a good sign, though.
Maybe it has the body of an OM-1
I thought enthusiasts buy entry-level DSLRs with kit zooms…
It’s a relative term. A bit like “Pro”.
Olympus seems to imply that all other Oly m43 cameras are not aimed at the enthusiast, which relegates the Pen line to a somehow lower status? Doesn’t make sense.
“the sensor is really NEW! And different than the one used for the Panasonic GX1”
That would be a very good news to see something else than the repacked G3 sensor ! If new sensor, I hope it is better than the G3 one, despite the bad 200 iso base level…And if the sensor is really better, it could be a killer cam !
Why not, Panasonic can made same DR. on a 16mp sensor so on the large 18mp is in GH2.
Oly said the Pens were made for camera joshi!
Bye panasonic zenzor crappp
OD-1? DM-1? OM-D? Even though I hate that all digital system cameras are named D-something.
Yeah, I agree about the “D”. It gets really annoying. Another thing that has been beaten to death is FF equivalent this, FF equivalent that….. Is it just me, or should the “FF equivalents” just be displayed for the camera it was designed for? In other words, why don’t they just call the 45mm 1.8 lens the 90mm 1.8?
Well… they are not doing it because a 45mm lens is essentially that… a 45mm lens.
It is the ‘sensors’ (in fact more the overall design sensor+distance lens to sensor etc.) crop factor of two.
Same with other brand’s DSLRs who got crop factors around 1.4-1.6.
In this case it is really not just marketing blah blah. But comparing it to the 35mm FF format makes it easier to compare different lenses and camera+lens setups across different brands.
Because even if BOTH lenses are 50mm, on m43 the perspective/viewable degrees/zoom factor (you name it) would be a LOT different from 50mm on a Canikon.
In the end… calling the 45mm a 90mm lens would be a lie. Calling it a 90mm equivalent, though, is fully acceptable.
X is much better….like GX1, G1X, XP1 or X100 for instance.
Maybe they should use a bunch of neglected letters…
Y… Q… V… J… U… K
Or go heavy metal and use umlauts… ÖM
or the letter “O” with the slash, like in Bergman films… ØM
Hell, why not just some of the cooler looking Cyrillic letters? Щ… Ж… Д… Ф
Or heiroglyphics… It’s 2012.. MAYAN glyphs, yeah, that’s it.
LMFAOROTF!!!!!
+1 for using umlauts.
Ø like in Bergman films? Last time I checked, he was from Sweden…
Or XZ-1? 🙂
They should have gone for iX-D. Would have sold billions! I don’t want to buy any products without both a lower case i and an upper case X anymore.
OM-Dx 🙂 You need an X there XG-1 might be good. 🙂 and maybe a “pro” like Fuji did. Fuji new camera while good is not really a “pro camera”; it is a great enthusiast camera. There will be low availability of replacements, lack of real pro service and lack of flexibility; that pros desire.
What about GTO or RS?
Damn, I’m doing exactly what I said I wouldn’t do…….I’m getting excited for this camera! I just don’t want to be let down like I have so many times in the past!!!
+1
Very interesting to lean more about the sensor! The m4/3 system has many advantages over the competition and even the flagship camera does not have to fully match Fuji or Sony flagships when it comes to image quality.
If IQ is a clear step forward compared to G3/G1X level – and the specs leaked so far are right, I will most likely go for that. Even if the Fuji Xpro is on top of my list at the moment.
Guys, guys.
The same complacent optimism as the one before E-P3 announcement and likely the same disappointment after.
I hope I’m wrong!
Yes, that’s why I am not going to post this as FT5 rumro yet. One thing is marketing blabla, another is the reality. I am asking my soruces to give me some REAL info about the sensor.
Please ask them about AF with 43 lenses as well 😉
Thanx for all the infos b.t.w. (even if some of them should prove wrong…)
Cheers
Frank
Its the G3/GX1 sensor with an Oly engine that tweaks the jpegs. …and what else?
oh…its wrapped in the Emperors New Clothes (actually old clothes, retro outfit again), with an extra slow kit zoom attached.
When are the new, fast Pany zoom coming?????
Correct.
But that Olympus weathersealed “slow zoom” is already in the stores 😉
Stop bitching man we’re talking m4/3 not Pana vs Oly.
I could think of a point of 5 where Pana doesn’t compare well to Oly.
Senseless mumbo jumbo.
True…it is just sooooooooooooooooo much hype and marketing, though.
I just don’t see all of the anticipation for a repackaged product. (The GX1 is also a repackaged product..but it had about 1/10 the hype and we knew what the sensor would be).
You are right, whatever the Oly is …its good for the system as a whole..making more choices.
Pentax is releasing a mirrorless, too, (which is totally overlooked here). That should be interesting, at least a lot more interesting than the Samsung Retro!
@ Admin – strange but spacific info request:
The EP1 will not meter for an exposure over more than 4sec in Apature Priorety mode @ 200 ISO…. this is a hinderance for day to night timelapses I do… 4sec is not that dark!
Would it be possible to find out if this new Oly can meter for grater exposure times @ base ISO? – Idealy I want it to meater to 30sec!
Thankyou in Advance,
J
Will ask!
+1 Keztio
I think Admin sometimes lets his OLY enthusiasm cloud his judgement. This is the exact claim Admin made prior to release of EP-3 how soon some forget. Truth is OLY doesn’T design sensors they create incredible processing big difference. And they have to work with what is available to them, at the moment there is zero credible information to conclude this sensor was designed by Olympus and produced by anyone else. ZERO
In away they do, as the Pany sensor has to be different physically for ISIS to be done. What they do not do is make the surface matrix which gives us DR. They have multiple patents on that, so someone in house must know a lot about it. They can also licence that part of the technology. Which is why for a while I thought the Canon sensor use made some sense, as I thought some of the Canons might be using Olympus patents. The Japanese Camera makers all share their patents, for a price I am sure.
I’m not gonna expect more than a G3 sensor, but am hoping like mad 🙂
Well at least its not the E-620, E-5, EP1, EP2, EP3, EPL1, EPL2, EPL3, EPM1, G1, G2, G10, GF1, GF2 sensor…
You forgot the first camera equipped with the sensor: the E-30. 😉 And the GF3.
perhaps MTH0004 Revised for 4/3 would be an another good source，well， nikon ’s next sensor would be this MTH0004 in aps一c from Aptina.
I also thought it could be sourced from Aptina, but the rumor about 200 being base ISO are not good for this to be true.
If it IS a new sensor I hope the ISO200 is wrong and that its ISO50 🙂
I fully share your hopes, but I’m not very optimistic that will happen 🙁
Or its S/N ratio is off the scale and DR even at 1600ISo is over 25 stops 🙂
And what about “The new seven point cross…” that is “Fast and accurate” in the fake camera image?
Any theory on that?
It’s all very interesting. I have come to appreciate the m4/3 system much more than I used to. Some of the new lenses such as the Olympus 12 and 45mm are really nice, as is the 25 Summilux.
I’m hoping some of the hype will be realised and that Olympus will present a compact system for enthusiasts with a bit more to spend.
New sensor sounds interesting! CURIOUS!
Just to keep repeating (until Olympus delivers): Is there any word yet on a PDAF solution for 4/3 lenses on m4/3 bodies?
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam!
Stop poisoning wells with base ISO. 200 base is perfectly normal for High density sensors, even Nikon has one. The new sensors are optimised for much higher ISO than before, so base ISO is accordingly increased.
Also the constant complaining about the sensor… Whatever it is Oly is increasing its competence in tailor making its sensors, and that’s what matters: sensors are becoming commodities.
If the OM D has one or two stops more DR, or some built in device it will make the X Pro 1 completely irrelevant.
The big difference is that the agreement wt. Panny about sensors expired last Summer, so there is definitely a possiblity that it is a non Panny one, and not restricted to the old gen, by them, which was shameful.
Hope it will be great sailing from now on…
Don’t agree for base iso 200. Two reasons:
1- The same sensor with base iso 100 would have better dynamic range and color fidelity. And for me, m43 needs more dynamic range (but I mainly take landscape so…)
2- In sunny days you won’t be able to take pictures under about f2.8 without a ND filter. m43 have 20 mm 1.7, 45 mm 1.8 and 25 mm 1.4 etc…A ND filter is not pratical at all !!
The same sensor CAN’T have base ISO 100, since that would cause the wells to owerflow and clip the highlights. Is that so hard to understand?
1. How do you know that a sensor with base ISO 100 will have better DR than one with base ISO of 200?
2. Why do you need larger than f2.8 in strong sunny weather? Its no good for portraits at least. I have still not run into that proble on my E-5 with its base ISO of 200
1 – I though it was physic but I must be wrong…
2 – f2.8 on m43 is not a lot for shallow depth of field, several times with my 20mm f1.7 I tried to shoot at f1.7 or f2 and it was not possible because of too much light… Maybe if max shutter speed is 1/8000e it can compensate the 200 iso base level.
Yes if you use F2 and ISO 200 in full sun light, is the two stop for little by shutter speed 1/4000 sec.
The E-3 and E-5 has 1/8000 shutterspeed, so perhaps this new Oly has it to
Nah, 1/8000 sec requires a solid build heavy camera, not possible with a light PEN or ligtly built OM-D.
200 as base ISO/native sensor sensitivity plain sucks in snowy environment.
During late winter in open places you have to stop lens down to diffraction limit and still have problems in avoiding hitting to max shutter speed limit.
ND4 or ND8 filter would work but again the moment you go into forest light level takes nose dive.
Also it snowy environment gives heck wide dynamic range.
Instead of just those first page numbers for dummies try looking actual DxOMark measurement graphs.
http://tinyurl.com/7angftg
4/3 sensor has superior sensitivity but at its lower base ISO even compact sensor of Canon Powershot G12 gives better dynamic range than usual Panasonic sensors. (only GH sensors being up to job)
Snowy environment is not that tricky and demanding at all, since you’ve got plenty of light. Easiest way of getting correct exposure, is to use the SPOT-HI measuring that originally was introduced with OM-4. For compact cameras +0.7 EV is a simple rule of thumb.
And diffraction worries, is merely of academic nature; 1/2000s & f/16 is no big deal with Four Thirds.
Regarding CCD sensors like in Canon Powershot G12, they are superior to (Canons) CMOS, like their S95 wins over S100 apart from at high ISO.
I agree that we for sure like better DR out from Olympus cameras, so the need is a digitally output sensor, but the GH sensor is just an intermediate step on that way.
Maybe Olympus needs to focus more on video, in order to get the digitally output sensors, but then they also might need optically stabilized lenses, if not only concentrating on primes…
I think you should spend more time with your camera than on forum. Why someone won’t be able to take pictures without ND filter? Are you going to photograph a nuclear explosion or what?
it’s just if you want to use max aperture…HAve you ever tried to use f1.7 on a sunny day to isolate a subject without a ND filter?? good luck…
indeed this is a special case problem, mostly related to people who like to use their fast lens wide-open during bright light conditions, in contradition to shooters who think like “too bright light? close that aperture, problem solved!” I have never used ND sofar but i am sure i will have to do it some day.
Could you tell me what is your shutter time? 1/8000? I am still asking about nuclear explosion, if that’s not it, then what are you going to capture?
I don’t understand: am I the only one that want to have bokeh on sunny days ??
you don’t know what is shutter speed or exposure at all, right?
You don’t have any lens with wider aperture than f4 or you live somewhere the sun never shines, right ?
Well, I wonder if you use m4/3 at all. Because you would know that any m4/3 or 4/3 camera in the last 3 years has MORE DR at 200 ISO, than at 100 ISO.
In fact the latter, when present, is totally virtual.
Besides at 200 ISO highlights are demonstrably better protected.
The X pro 1 by Fuji has other features than sensor/processor IQ that the Oly will not have: The hybrid VF with the Fuji unique features of OVF. Extremely valuable for street/documentary photography.
Sorry guys, but it will be our old friend GX1/G3 sensor.
How can a “source” tell us if the sensor is made by something else instead of Pana? How can tell us if it’s a new sensor or not?
That can only be done by a few people wich I don’t think are sources of these rumors. I thinks most sources only tell us what they can see with their own eyes, and what they heard. But what they heard must be mainly marketing blahblahblah, so do not expect a new sensor. All EVIDENCE point to GX1/G3 sensor, sadly.
What “EVIDENCE”? The fact that you belive it’s so, is that “EVIDENCE”?
The number of MPix, ISO range, the fact that until now Oly’s m4/3 used Pana’s sensors, the lack of other sensor manufacturers that make 4/3″ sensors, and the simple use of Occam’s razor instead of wishful thinking.
+1
Those are indices, not evidence.
You’re right. Wrong word, sorry.
It’s not an old friend, it’s a pretty new friend.
… well, and even if io is right: I kinda like the G3 sensor 😉
i bet its fuji sensor it will get you one more stop compared with g3 so iso 1600 on ep3 wil be !like 6400 on lnew sensor. See
Fuji x10
Admin – Was the “clue beginning with One” clearly a part of the Olympus blurb in the newsletter? I doubt the whole newsletter was dedicated to Olympus.
If not “One” is likely to be a new CX camera from Nikon. It would not be hard for them to make a camera more appealing to enthusiasts by adding PASM to the mode dial and perhaps add a few buttons and a dial for changing settings. Such a camera would be to the current V1 what the GX1 is to the GF3. They could also be introducing a fixed lens camera like the Canon G1X using the J1/V1 sensor.
A lot of rumors seem to be deliberate leaks. Even in the internet age some surprises are still possible. Nikon has introduced some products, usually lenses without any proceeding rumors. Canon seems to do that too. The prelaunch publicity for the J1/V1 was overwhelming negative and must have hurt sales. If I was in Nikon management and getting ready to introduce a third “One” series camera I would make it clear that leaks would not be tolerated to avoid a repeat.
I think the clue is “One Major”-OM. Why else would they use a capital ‘M’ in “One major camera’s much anticipated….”
As long as the image quality produced by the new sensor caparable to X Pro & NEX , a “close call” for example , it will consider a huge step forward in M4/3 history . I definitely will get it for my 45mm F1.8 .
Let’s see if Olympus can create a new M4/3 hallmark .
Just a thought, but what if the “one” clue means that the sensor is 1×1 square? I doubt it, but maybe…
Or perhaps the merging of 4/3 and m4/3 to “ONE beautiful system” like some Olympus guy said. 🙂
Good thinking!
Wishful thinking.
Look my comment above..
yeah I like that idea … hope it wasn’t just a typo.
Rchard,
That was my thinking as well – if only because that is for me the most important quality of the new OM that has not been included in the rumors. Having 43rds lenses, that is key for me!
Peter
Gripless retro brick won’t do that.
Mirrorless and modernized “E-1” (EVF instead of mirror chamber and OVF stuff and some size shrinknig) would be good start for combining systems.
The OM cameras had the lens mount in a central position.
The E-1 had an offset lens mount, making it more asymetrically shaped, maybe the reason for it’s ergonomic popularity?
Olympus needs a built in flash, in order for the wireless RC flash to operate. The E-1 didn’t have a built in flash, neither did the OM cameras.
7 cross type sensors !
‘ONE’ last shot before everybody jumps ship
Or trying to organize a rescue from a life boat 😉 ?
Can’t wait for feb 8th. my 25mm f0.95 deserved a better sensor.
Number “One” mirrorless system…
until Canon creates their own, which will better the N-One. 😉
Dear Admin
any shred of rumor concerning 4/3 compatibility ?
As things look now on the 8th of March my 12-60 and 50-200swd will be on Ebay
Yep, trying to give you something soon!
Clue for D-One,The-One! OM-D1, OlympusM The One. D for digital
Maybe the ONE refers to the merging of the systems into ONE.
I hope so! Lets merge 43, m43 and OM into one system! that will be a dream comes true.
>Clue for D-One,The-One! OM-D1, OlympusM The One. D for digital
OM-D1 OMG its D1
Maybe the ONE refers to F/1.0. Or maybe to only ONE lens. Or maybe to ONE more time we believed in rumor forum and then we were disappointed again.
I think they simply meant that the clue begins with “one” in the text “One Major camera’s much anticipated first public view in the UK”. So the clue would be “OM”, since those letters are capitalized. That’s all there is to guess, I’m afraid.
I feel at times that those new to photography believe that unless you have a 36 PM full frame sensor with high dynamic range and ISO 12,500 that your photographic experience will be a failure. In the olden (film) days, really serious photographers used medium format systems. 35mm was popular because, like MFT today, one needed about that “real estate” to get reasonable IQ from film and it was smaller and weighed less than medium format; that’s why it was so popular. MFT fills that niche today with beautifully crafted cameras and lenses for the IQ delivered. Enthusiasts expecting F2 zooms and 24 MP high dynamic range sensors from MFT probably have unrealistic expectations; and professionals will never use the MFT format. If Olympus is finally targeting the enthusiast market, believe they are spot on. If searching for the ultimate IQ, best to go full-frame or medium format. Nikon/Canon, Phase One and Hasselblad have just what you’re looking for.
In my 39 years of photography, I’ve run the gamut of Nikon enthusiast and professional film cameras, medium format film cameras, Nikon enthusiast digital cameras, and now MFT. My Olympus P2 (also have a PL3) and smattering of Olympus and Panasonic lenses is the most finely engineered and most beautiful piece of kit I’ve ever used for photography … and yes, I’m a pixel peeper and before that a film grain peeper of the first magnitude.
I’m looking forward to the OM-D. I suspect I’ll own one after the dust settles. If 16 MP, I hope Olympus stops there. 24 or 36 PM and pixel count will have reached the law of diminishing returns for the MFT-sized sensor.
Ah, a well written breath of fresh, sane, air. Thank you.
I agree with you. I just wish that Olympus can make a full frame digital OM that is much smaller. I just wish that there is a good body for my OM lens.
Anyhow, I am interested in the OM-D, no matter if it is m43 or FF. I have lot of 43 and m43 equipment anyway. However, I might not buy the OM-D-1, I might go for the OM-D-2 or 3. I have preordered my E-P1 before, and I so wished I have purchased a E-P2 or 3 by now. The E-P1 just came out too prematurely. I suspect they forced it to an early release to catch the anniversary day of Pen. I hope they won’t release a premature OM-D to catch the anniversary of OM this time….
While I don’t have the same length of experience as Biggstr, I have similar sentiments. I’m an enthusiast, and I’ve had multiple film SLR systems and multiple digital cameras. Prior to the E-P3, my favorite camera system was the Contax G2 that I used for a few years. I stopped using that when I moved to digital, but none of the other digital systems have satisfied me as much as the Micro Four Thirds system has in the time I’ve had it. It is very nicely built, focus and shutter response are phenomenal, the size and weight of the camera are ideal, and the image quality is absolutely fine for me because I’m not printing huge prints. I’m unwilling to lug around a heavy SLR system, and technology has made mirrors/pentaprisms unnecessary. The sensor for m43 is large enough to give a small enough depth of field when I want it. And there are a lot of lens options, just waiting for a 9 or 10mm fast prime and a telephoto fast prime to make it a perfect system for my needs. This new camera sounds like it will be a good step up and will keep the system competitive or a leader in the mirrorless space. Looking forward to it.
Thanks Biggstr very well writen like others has said.
Very well said, Biggstr. “Enthusiast” is the right group for MFT. Good enough for “advanced amateur” and some pro use, but not for challenges like telephoto action sport or ultra-low light levels. Small enough for portability, but not quite to fit into a purse/handbag.
The transformative feature is the compact size of MFT giving it unprecedented portability, just like 35mm did when Oskar Barnack developed the first Leica. Pushing the MFT format to have super-wide apertures is not the way to go.
The format is already pretty darned good and of course will get better still. EVF’s are just perfect for MFT, and are actually becoming more desirable than an OVF in several ways. The mirror will always have specialized uses, of course. At the moment it’s the way to get the best focus in moving subjects. At the moment.
I agree on this, m4/3 has certain strengths that makes it very suitable for serious (amateur) photographers.
As much as I love my big DSLR, I have come to feel that the size is a nuisance when you are not using it in a professional sense. So I am seriously looking at getting something a bit smaller, preferably with a few nice prime lenses and maybe one decent tele zoom. So far, only the m4/3 system has what I am looking for.
The one thing it is missing is a strong body with built in EVF. This could be it.
Biggstr, you are very right. I have around 45 years of photography and have used the following cameras: 8×10, 4×5, Hasselblad, Olympus OM, and Leica M4 and M6, and today Olympus E1, E3, E5 and E-P2 and recently E-P3. I have an Epson 7800 printer with Colorbyte Imageprint software. The prints I’m doing now from the E3, E5 and EP Olympus camera files are the most beautiful and clean I have ever done. Better than those from my 8×10 and Hasselblad scanned film.
Very well said. BTW the consensus is that the upper limit in resolution for the best 4/3 lenses is 20 Mpx, so it makes no sense to expect more.
There might be technological advances, like Fuji’s allowing the withdrawal of the AA filter thanks to a different design of the sensor. But that says exactly the opposite than what newbies imply.
16 Mpx can now rival the best resolution of a FF sensor of 3 yrs. ago.
My only gripe with the E-P2 is that it stills blows highlights, but if I look towards the sun with my own eyes I won’t see details anyway 🙂
Just joining the rest in saying: well said, sir, well said.
Getting to see a new high end camera beats having to look at an old rear end camera.
“The clue starts with One” means that the clue is the sentence with One in there. That is referring to the “One Major…”, which again, hinting OM. But that’s about it.
However, I am more interested in what the new line of product means? Is the new line simply OM that has a m43 sensor???
Maybe it will be a new Panasonic sensor, shared with the GH3 which also will be weather proofed.
The One idea is intriguing, maybe one pixel for all colors, we seen the patents right here.
The One may be one camera for three Olympus mounts. They also have patents which would cover that.
Probably. means One Ring will rule them all. 🙂
No one is allowed to use the word ‘sensor’ in any post after this one.
This will probably be the last post in this thread.
Very well said, Biggstr. “Enthusiast” is the right group for MFT. Good enough for “advanced amateur” and some pro use, but not for challenges like telephoto action sport or ultra-low light levels. Small enough for portability, but not quite to fit into a purse/handbag.
The transformative feature is the compact size of MFT giving it unprecedented portability, just like 35mm did when Oskar Barnack developed the first Leica. Pushing the MFT format to have super-wide apertures is not the way to go.
The format is already pretty darned good and of course will get better still. EVF’s are just perfect for MFT, and are actually becoming more desirable than an OVF in several ways. The mirror will always have specialized uses, of course. At the moment it’s the way to get the best focus in moving subjects. At the moment.
Everyone is too busy with the OM and new sensors that they are forgetting that the XZ-1’s successor is in the pipeline. Rumblings are that it will have a CX sized sensor.
I’m sure Olympus will save big reveals for CP+ and Photokina so I’m guessing they could use this show for a camera such as the XZ-1 sucessor reveal.
I beg the Camera Gods that this OM-D is not just a Panasonic G3-like body even with a new sensor !
Make it a real OM successor with a VF that worth it and with a body that doesn’t feel like another electronic toy….
Ahh, the fabled “new Olympus sensor”.
Olympus tweaked the 12mp (again) and called it brand new for E-P3. This time they are slightly better as the 16mp is actually brand new on an Olympus camera never mind it is almost a year old on the G3. If Olympus ever dug up GH1’s 12.1/14mp sensor, I am sure they will call it new.
Olympus can be acused of many things but not the poor quality of the bodys. So, i think, that is the minor problem that can apear.
even Panasonic do not use the GH sensors in other cameras
so where is your theory now?
XZ-2. Would be great to hear about it.
its so funny seeing a GX1 and a G1X almost the same size of sensor lol
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