This is Kai’s take on the new Olympus E-M1. He is not known to be a real MFT fan. I am glad to hear he changed a his mind thanks to the E-M1 🙂
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E-M1 Preorder Links:
Olympus E-M1 body at Amazon, Adorama and BHphoto, Amazon DE (via DL), Amazon UK (via DL), Amazon ES (via DL), WexUK, Topshot FI, CameraWorldUK.
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO Lens at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, AmazonDE (viaDL), Amazon ES (via DL).
Olympus E-M1 with 12-40mm Lens kit at Amazon DE (via DL), WexUK and CameraWorldUK, Amazon UK (via DL), Amazon ES (via DL).
Olympus E-M1 with 12-50mm Lens kit at Amazon DE (via DL), WexUK, CameraWorldUK, Amazon UK (via DL), Amazon ES (via DL).
Olympus EP-13 Eyecup for E-M1 at Adorama and BHphoto.
Olympus HLD-7 Battery Grip for E-M1 at Amazon, Adorama and BHphoto.
Olympus LC-62D Metal Front Lens Cap for 12-40mm at Adorama and BHphoto.
Olympus LH-66 Lens Hood for 12-40mm at Adorama and BHphoto.
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All DSLRs look the same Kai. More than look the same. They could be out of the same mold and stretched a bit here or there, just pump it up with a bit more air on this side or that. Just plastic looking lumps. YUK. And the size of them. YUK.
At least m43 has form as well as functionality from both oly and pany. Kai you are a product of a generation of huge lumps of plastic. Get with the changes that are staring and will envelop you. Makes you sound like a little old man who does not like change. That’s supposed to be me, not you
I suspect half the script that Kai spews forth is taken from forum chatter and regurgitated onto the masses in hip satirical irony. He’s not above taking the mickey out stereotypical viewpoints, and cares not a bit if he comes across an arse during such presentation. A long-time FF/135 sensor snob, and yet in the both of the e-M1 and GX7 reviews, he’s reluctantly praised both designs. His nit-picking sounds like grudgingly praise, and his lean toward the Leica-looking model is no surprise.
Personally, I ordered the e-M1 upon handling one. Could really care less how it looks, and the GX7 was the same reaction, in the opposite direction. It’s “style” didn’t mean a thing after handling and using it. I am sure there are people with a 180D view, nice there is both choices. People seem to miss the perspective that mFT has a unique range of choice. Not just a bunch of DSLRs in staged price points.
“Not just a bunch of DSLRs in staged price points.”
That all look the same.
In other words: despite your age, you JimD haven’t learnt to tell wheat from chaff. Kai is much younger and managed it. Just another way of looking at it.
Yes he is full of chaff. So you noticed as well. My feet are firmly with the wheat. Not blowing in the wind as his are.
DigitalRev has been busted selling used gear as new; no cred. Kai is a twat
Hi innerwes,
Any info to back this up?
Mat
Some 5D mk3 Kai used for the show got packed up after recording. Because they were running short, some genius in logistics decided it could be sold to a customer. The serial number for the camera was still registered to Kai.
DRTV offered a full refund/replacement or if the owner kept it, a 600GBP voucher at their store. I think they acted pretty decently.
It’s just lolympus fans that are butthurt that Kai called their dream camera ugly (it is).
Mat…it’s a fact…do a Goggle search…they made quite a splash with that boner move! LOL!
I still find zkai to be mildly entertaining in small doses…and then…there is Lambi to consider!!!
Google it not hard to find!
LOL!….never take me literally.
It did happen once – it may have been an honest mistake though.
Basically someone bought a camera from digitalrev and did a search for images using the same serial number as their camera body and found images contained within a digitalrev review.
innerwess is using this isolated incident to try and spread fud
Be that as it may, Kai is still a twat.
Yep, move along folks, nothing to see here. Kai is an uninformed twat.
Fair enough. Thanks for the headsup. I guess this priably happens often but DR are high profile. Cheers
How do you think he likes it? What I got from it is he thinks it’s ugly and expensive for what it is, but takes decent pics.
He even said that they removed the AA filter, but he doesn’t see the results.
This is a very niche camera for 43 glass owners and Olympus fanboys.
Of course the is not resulta, and reason is PDAF.
But i hope the next OMD will have only CDAF.
This fits will with what other sources have said. Apparently the E-M5 already has a pretty weak AA filter, thus you cannot tell much defferenct. So I would call that a fair point.
Who cares if Kai liked it ?!!
It seems to bother many people what Kai think. So Z, if you ask ” who cares if Kai likes it ?”, take a look at the reactions om this forum, including yours. Imo the Olympus omd 1 and 5 are not great looking, but they are good camera’s. One of the reasons I bought my Pen was that it is goodlooking imo. So one of the reasons I won’t buy an OMD is because it isn’t good looking (imo).
I was thinking more or less the same when I bought my GH2 : at best ordinary looking. It never stopped me from buying it.
I don’t know who this guy is and this was my first impression of him. He reminded me of Charlize Theron’s character in Arrested Development. That British accent does a superb job of masking that this guy is a complete retard.
One has to wonder who bother to put any credit into this so-called review. His first two or three videos may have been original but now it is just filled with the wise- a.. comments of someone who sounds like a teenager who refuses to grow up
Not much info for a video review of that length
Harold
It looks like the only down side of the EM1 is the design that Kai criticized heavily & I agree with him . Overall the EM1 is best camera in m43 generation ever produced .
Till Oly know how to come out with good looking camera like the sweat GX7 , I’ll start to buy in their stuffs .
I’m sure Kai definitely will pick up GX7 for a street walk than the EM1 if he is at his own .
If you wanna treat your camera as jewelry, more power to you, but photographers tend to care about how the pictures look, and don’t give a thing about how the camera looks. Its a tool, and should be easy to operate and give good results.
Man, if you guys buying cameras for their designs, why not end up with an iPhone? beside, design is totally subjective, 1000 people have 1000 different views, Kai put too much his own taste in that video, which it’s very annoying for our readers.
I don’t know how anyone can take this guy seriously. He is like a retard looking at a camera as if he has never seen one before picking his finger at the camera like a small child. He seems to think that Olympus four third cameras were crap when he obviously has never used one. The E-1, E-3, E-5 were extremely well built cameras with very good image quality. What an idiot!
In a lot of ways, he and his co-workers are trying to be a Top Gear-like trio, to have some fun with photographic equipment, rather than automobiles.
The guy is a crap photographer.
At least he likes himself.
Kai is getting more and more ridiculous. I used to enjoy his reviews. Now he tries to look for things to complain about. He needs to take a sabbatical or retire from all this for a year, and get his energy and mojo back. Take a look at both his reviews of the GX7 and E-M1. He grudgingly admits that he likes both cameras. He needs to get out of his own way as his reviews are becoming far less interesting and informative than those of others.
And the E-M1 looks great. The rest of you are clueless.
Ah, DigitalRev…so much expensive equipment in such incompetent hands. Did he just say built-in flash is for pros???
No he didnt, he said an external flash is for people who what to be pros.
My guess is that it was a luttle pun, no pro would buy it but alot of wanna be pros.
Just to clerify, I belive 90% of the pros out there would do just fine with an Em-1 or even a little x20 point and shoot. Im a producer with a background in video, but I still some times have to tag along with the still photographers on projects from time to time. And IMO for easlily 99% of he pics any modern m4/3 or dslr would do the job. Only diference is that the m4/3 would be easyer to carry.
Kai really hates olympus, doesn’t he ?
First and foremost, I hate the faux-slr form factor and I hate the EM1 design even more (EM5 OTOH is nice looking) but I have to say, this has to be the worst, most incomplete and utterly uninformative EM1 review out there. He doesn’t go in depth into any of the EM1 features and instead wasted half the video talking about looks and then goes to compare it to the GX7, sure, I have a strong bias towards the Gx7 too but that camera has nothing in common with the EM1 besides the mount, they follow totally different philosophies and target totally different demographics, they shouldn’t be compared (besides, who’s to say one cannot have both cameras to complement each other?). He didn’t show any pics with the SLR magic either!
I like digitalrev videos for the most part but it’s getting ever more clear that they’re pretty bias towards DSLRs (nikon particularly), every single mirrorless review is lackluster or downright negative whereas Canikon have been pumping the same crap for years with next to zero innovation and still get praised by Kai. It seems Lok is about the only guy at digitalrev that gets the idea behind the PENs and OMD and mirrorless in general, maybe he should do the mirrorless reviews from now on.
I don’t give a peanut about the EM1 but this attitude towards m43 is getting annoying, thankfully the GX7 somehow managed to get into Kai’s heart (and even then, that review was half assed).
I’m sure Lok would prefer the Pen over the O-MD every time. The E-M1 is hideous. I think they were better off making the E7 instead.
Kai’s brilliant, and thank God for his refreshing, hilarious and out of the box reviews. I used to go ape for the Sean Reid style in-depth wankathons (even pay for them). But nowadays with all these cameras getting really good, while I’ll definitely peruse DP before shelling out serious dough, I really find Kai’s reviews a breath of fresh air that give perspective on a totally mad hype scene. Kai’s grandma wearing low-cut top is a freaking hilarious analogy, whether you think the EM1 is actually ugly or not. (it IS functional, but it IS also fugly).
i couldn’t be bothered finishing it, it’s like a long phone call to his mum complaining about everything wrong in his life.
But from the first half, he didn’t like the camera much at all.
I think he nails some pertinent facts about M1
Good: Frame rate, decent dynamic range, works well, high performance for the most hard core enthusiast, fits in the hand well, 1/8000h shutter, 1/320 sync, AF tracking sequential high, IS,
Bad: high NR, cost, Art Filters inappropriate, confused hot shoe cover(S), flap access, 30p video,
Ugly (): retro/digital
I guess there are those things all of us might prefer he talked about too, the EVF, that NR is adjustable etc, but by and large this is meant to be entertaining and light hearted.
I agree. There are plenty of technical reviews and this is a nice “What I think of it” review by someone that gets to play with a lot of cameras and says what’s on his mind as he takes it for a spin. People need to take it for what it is, which is one mans opinion on how it handles.
+1 kai does a good job of addressing matters that affect the user.
It may seem insignificant to non users of the e-m5 and e-m1, but the hot shoe and accessory port covers are an issue. Those on my em-5 give me the shits. There has to be a better way. Unless I stop caring about losing them or exposing the ports when not in use.
I don’t understand why he criticised the lockable mode dial. That seems like a great idea to me.
Ah the (im)popularity of cameras in general is best displayed when some faux-cynical Hong Kong hipster/nerd gets the most hits on The Tubester (which still isn’t a lot compared to let’s say a semi-hit pop song, the average lolcat or a new mobile phone)
lol, trying to show-off by putting fancy words together? I think I’d actually prefer a nerdy guy from HK over what u seem to be, which is a wannabe-hipster ( which is even worse, but that’s just me…
+1
He surely didn’t try to disguise his hate for Kai and YouTube for that matter….
“Calvados” 😀
Which one is your favourite? 🙂
If you like good stand-up DRTV has hit the mark with this funny man.
As far as providing anything beyond a 3rd grade audience on the technical aspects of new cameras, then they really have the “wong kai”.
Another “review” from Kai? Yawn.
Another “constructive” comment? Yawn.
Kai’s reviews are always good for a chuckle or two but not at all informative as far as the camera goes. But why would I expect a comedy show to tell me anything about cameras?? Truth be told, I watch for the “chuckle”.
As far as aesthetics go, full frame DSLRs are looking quite Pillsbury Dough-boyish as they are unnecessarily fat and bulbous. Their looks are dated and overinflated and their bloated nature extends also to their purchase price.
As far as control and buttons, Kai complains about them not being present as much as he whines about how there are too many of them. Sigh!!!
I think he has a go at this camera in his own flippant way, I don’t think he is complimentary of the camera really, I own the OMD EM5 and I really like it despite it’s many flaws, I’m convinced it’s capable of much more should they unlock it’s potential.
Video being a major issue, and one that I raised constantly with Olympus, and many bloggers, the outcome is they don’t care about video.
Seeing how the wider public are receiving the camera and pointing out how poor the video implementation is, then I hope Olympus will respond quickly.
I haven’t seen any of the m43 forums talk of the OMD Stylus, but on dpreview they state that it can record video at 120 & 240fps albeit at much reduced resolutions. someone who hacked into the OMD EM5 very early on noted that there are references to 120 and 240 in the firmware, but could not be sure that this refers to fps.
I’m not seeing any reason at the moment to abandon the EM5 for the EM1, it seems unlikely right now, the EM5 i think has a great deal to offer with the right firmware//hack.
head to personl view and voice your thoughts on the Olympus hack thread if that is how you feel about the EM5
Okay, so let’s say this for the millionth time: “The E-M1 is NOT the replacement for the E-M5! There will be an E-M6 (or E-M7) to replace the E-M5.” The E-M1 is a higher level pro camera (and more rugged), which also has included PDAF on the sensor so that it can AF more properly/quickly with Olympus’s great 4/3 glass (for those of us that have those lenses).
Are we clear on this?
CC
take a chill pill
All that was said with the launch of the EM5
I’m highlighting my own thoughts on this cam, just not enough there for me to go for it, and abandon the EM5.
for over a year I’ve been feeding back to Oly on video and just suggesting if it’s on par with the GH3 it will be a killer cam to have.
The fact they did not address this in the EM1, be it as you put it not a replacement for the EM5 but in fact an much better // higher spec cam., and not addressing the video issue then that says a lot about how they receive feedback.
I don’t think I’m alone in this, the general vibe/feedback from professional bloggers/reviewers I think highlight the same issue.
let people make their thoughts and put them out, your reply seems to show exacerbation that one feels is not needed
peace
Video is in my opinion totally overrated. Most advanced amateurs don’t use it seriously, because to do it with the same demand for quality as the have for stills photography, it will be a lot more time consuming and challenging. You need more equipment, more software, take care for sound, and most importantly for a good storyboard.
The hype, that every decent photographic camera, also needs a perfect video implementation, is mostly triggered by marketing industry, bloggers, and some eloquent forum contributors, but it lacks reality check. Olympus has focused on making a near to perfect photographic tool in a small package, which is robust, performant, and easy to use without being short on features. It addresses a lot aspects photographers demand from mirrorless cameras: providing a view finder, which is at least on par with good DSLR finders, and providing controls, which are easy to access and operate. Olympus was pretty successfull with that. And because of that, the camera might not be the prettiest in the world, it simply focuses on usability. People who complain about its look, usually never had it in hand.
Like many others, I don’t care about video. Professionals will have multiple equipment anyway, for photography and for video. To lump everything into one tool, leads to less optimal compromises with – for example – 16:9 view finders and poor finder optics (GH3).
Unfortunately, Olympus will adapt and follow the video train, as they declared recently. I hope that this will not take a toll on the photography aspects.
They could make video a bit more perfect and perhaps address some aspects with a firmware update, but the next generation of OM-Ds definitely should not a fat beast like most of the current hybrid cameras, like the GH3, 70D and most of the other DSLRs. It is ironical that the lack on top video complaint is mostly directed to Olympus. I don’t hear a lot talk about missing video capabilities, when the Fuji X series cameras or even Leicas are discussed. There it is perfectly accepted that, these cameras are focused to photography.
+1
And to add to Mahlers comment regarding the requirements for good video “You need more equipment, more software, take care for sound, and most importantly for a good storyboard.”. What I have seen of ‘great’ video produced by the GH2/3 group usually consists of images which in most cases are little more than stills which have been panned, accompanied by a musical soundtrack, people see this type of footage and regard it as a masterpiece, though something which will be seen once by the followers then forgotten, while a good still image can be printed and hung for the perusal of many people to admire and appreciate.
Please, please Olympus, carry on producing high quality cameras concentrating on the requirements of photographers, not wannabe Steven Speilbergs.
You have both got me.
If you want video buy a video camera. As you say, the subject matter is devoid of much reason. Most of what is seen is of the biggest no no in video, continual panning and out the window of a moving car. I was taught to avoid that when I used 8mm a million years ago. Just because the definition is ‘somewhat’ improved does not change that.
Guys, it’s 2013. I think you need a reality check.
It’s nearly 2014 and not everyone wants to shoot five minutes of their kids playing on the floor, subsidised by the serious photographer who wants a good working tool.
Well, the reality is that video takes a lot more education and preparation than most people have, who uses this hybrid cameras. Most footage you see are short, rather primitive clips on the web, mostly with no significant content (with images there is a lot of crap too but not that much). Most video footage could equally and easier shot with a smartphone. The proposition that Panasonic will go 4K video with the next generation GH camera is fine, but should Olympus follow this, at least with the OM-D line? I think no. Olympus can make a new product line, but should not spoil its photographic cameras with high-end video. For many people, the GH line of Panasonic was really spoiled with the GH3 due to its view finder characteristics and size, so they switched to OM-D.
I don’t say that the GH3 line was a mistake for Panasonic, there is enough demand for hybrid tools such as the GH3. However, they could have done that in a separate product line and leave the excellent GH2 concept intact.
I will add to this:
Once you start investing in video, the camera is but the beginning. Light, sound, support, etc. it can pretty steep.
And once you get remotely good at montages, you realize that several cheaper video cameras does better than a single superior one. Wildlife comes to mind as the best example.
My thoughts exactly: storyboard, editing (montage), lighting, sound. An amateur (ie someone who does not use his camera to pay the rent) can still produce great art photography, but (s)he will never produce even remotely interesting motion pictures (well, here the old fashioned americanism comes real handy). On the other hand, if you want to capture on video the Egyptian army attacking demonstrators at Tahrir square, you might be better off with an inconspicuous smart phone – that is if you want to get back home (both you and your equipment) in one piece.
But there may still be a niche market out there, for this kind of hybrid cameras, namely amateurs who delude themselves that better equipment equals better video memories of their kids, cats, or holidays; in practice they will be subsidizing the cost of a 3rd emergency piece of video equipment for wedding and event photographers.
I hear you. I meant to say that a few discontinued low video specs dated cameras often will produce better montage than one single GH3. I did not have cel phones in mind, rather GF2 or something similar. Live events, wild life, sports, etc. anything where you cannot cut and repeat.
…of course, if the “videographer” is a natural born still shooter that sets all cameras on auto metering, the jump in exposures from transition to transition can become quite …exquisite..
My point exactly.
Most PHOTOGRAPHERS want their camera to have excellent video quality as well as stills. The GH3 Is what it is for that reason. When the GH2 got hacked, that created what the GH3 Is.
The E-M1 for a brand new camera, failed already because of this. It even tries to look like a DSLR, yet most DSLR’s have better video and better sensors. This camera is not for people looking for a do it all camera.
Funny how people here say they’re getting one, or have one, yet I’d wager that this camera will be overlooked in every camera store, for the simple fact that there are better options from everybody, at even better prices.
-The GH3 is better overall
-For stills, the Fuji cameras are better
-Why would anyone get this over a E-M5?
-The option to use 43 glass is not a plus for this camera, as they are so much in the minority, its barely recognized. Really, who cares about 43 glass? A very, VERY few, that’s who.
-Even sony, with it’s full frame mirrorless is better, at around the same price.
I expect this camera not to sell. It may do okay, initially, but I expect it to follow the E-P5…
If you want to move dirt buy a truck not a family car.
If you want to take serious video buy a video camera.
Basic video in a stills camera is fine, I like it occasionally.
But why the hell should I pay for the development and implementation of more than basic video on my stills camera, just so some only some tight fisted jerks can have RED video with me paying for it. And for you phony technical experts. Its not already in the camera and just needs to be turned on.
Me need a reality check? Video nerds need to think of the morals of making me and other still camera users pay for what they want. If one cant afford a product. Then making others pay for your weakness is immoral.
Hear hear!
The EM-1 is a terrific photography machine, w/ a basic video functionality thrown in for good measure. It is mainly catered towards the enthusiast/pro segment, along with the invested 4/3 users, who are finally offered an upgrade path from the E-x DSLR series. I’m for one utterly impressed by this camera, and I have to say it’s looks is growing in me by the day. Sitting there on the table, it gives me flashbacks to the good old OM days… And that for sure is not a bad thing! 🙂
Blah blah blah. You aren’t interested in having decent video – fine. Meanwhile, others of us simply won’t bother buying Olympus cameras, unless they have better video – since other manufactures are filling that niche.
Everyone happy now?
Good. Then bugger off and annoy some video shooters doing their incessant pans and walk this ways and DOF zoom ins and outs. You must be simple if you find that enthraling.
I don’t want to pay for your hobby. Why should I?
“and not addressing the video issue then that says a lot about how they receive feedback.”
What makes you think that your desire should be their priority? Do you have market research to present that demonstrates the investment in satisfying your feedback will pay? Do you know what agreements they have with others that they have to stick to?
How they received your feedback is independent of them implementing it, and your complaint would be valid if they simply ignored your feedback without ever putting a thought into it. Sorry to say but its a sign of extreme arrogance to think your feedback is so important and undeniably correct that it will always be implemented as soon as a manufacturer heard about it. Its not about you, its not about what you want, its about the market, what the market wants and what agreements exist. You are merely a very very very very very tiny fraction of the picture (and so am I for that matter)
“I don’t think I’m alone in this,”
I’m the first one to agree that at least they should address some issues, specifically the silly restrictions on frame-rates, but that has totally zero to do with ‘professional videographers’ and everything with typical consumers, as a professional videographer should have sufficient knowledge to easily work around the resulting issues.
But if I’m going to do serious video, the number of things I have to take care of is large enough that adding a real dedicated video cam to this is a total non issue, and will work significantly better then any hybrid camera ever will. You know.. things like stage lighting, audio recording equipment, stabilizer rigs, mounts etc.
“the general vibe/feedback from professional bloggers/reviewers I think highlight the same issue.”
Professional bloggers maybe, but those earn their money by writing stuff and anything they write that gets them page hits pays. Now I’d like to see what professional photographers and videographers think, because that tells me a lot more about what is truly important.
If your ear is close to the ground, you will know as any reasonable person that the market wants video features at the very least on par with the competition.
That’s the market, pros and others would really appreciate that, too,
That has been the trend, the fact that Olympus went out to the media and announced in an interview that they will address video makes my point very clearly.
who I am is really irrelevant as to why they may or may not listen to my feedback
Getting the basics right is one thing, trying to compete in the videography market a totally different thing.
I’m always surprised that people complain about cost with this camera. Aside from sensor size (and I think most people are grossly over-critical when it comes to m43 vs FF) anything remotely comprable is MUCH more expensive, and enormous.
That’s because they foolishly try to compare it with the less expensive E-M5. The E-M1 is MORE feature-rich, more rugged, and has on-sensor PDAF to better handle AF with the many Olympus 4/3 lenses. It is worth the increase in price. But most people are cheapskates (as evidenced in abundance on this forum). And, yes, the IQ is competitive with APS-C.
As much as I love olympus cameras I have to say it can never beat the IQ or DR of an Full Frame or an APSC camera. I bought the EM1 so I can use my old 4/3 lenses and am happy with the photos this camera produces. Sure it can never be an excellent camera for low light and sports photography but it fit my current needs.
But in IMO it should.
Nikon D800s 36mp FF sensor = sharp and 12 stops of dynamic range.
BMCCs 2,5mp tiny sensor (smaller than m4/3) = much much sharper and 13 stops of dynamic range.
BMPCC 2mp even smaller sensor = sharper than d800 with 13 stops of DR.
And in raw mode they burst 30 pictures per second in bursts that are a couple of hours long.
And they cost a fraction of the d800.
So why cant a still camera have 13stops and maby 20mp with a m4/3 sensor and with some afordability. Specaly if it only need to take pictures one at a time.
If you take the data from most recent technical reviews of the E-M1 it is quite close to 13 stops of DR. You won’t notice the difference. As to sharpness, it depends more on lenses and m4/3 lenses are very good in this aspect.
Yes….DPReview gave the 70 D a score of 83.
They gave the EM1 a score of 84.
Not my favorite wed site…but they are very thurough with their reviews.
Come on… Sure, it will not even come close to FF but APSC? Pick for example the Canon 70D with its sensor. Overall score at dxo is 68 vs. 73 with em1 or 72 with em5. And nevertheless the 70d got pretty ghood reviews so far. So, regarding APSC, you wouldn´t be able to tell what pic from what cam.
Meh. I’m selling my D7000 because my E-P5 beats it in just about everything: better IQ, faster AF, more accurate AF, sharper images.
The difference in sensor size between 1.9x, 1.6x and 1.5x crops are so small i can’t believe people get so worked up about it.
There is nothing wrong with Kai. I fact I think he is representative for the majority of 43rumors, there is a Kai hidden in all of us.
What a load of crap.
Ulli: You win prize for ‘most inaccurate statement in this thread’.
how lovely, i never won a prize before.
Who give a fook what some 2 bit Jeremy Clarkson wannabe cares? The guy is a 1st class tool.
I didn”t smile while looking at this “review”. It was not funny nor helpful in any way. The fact that he exagerates things is quite annoying and misinforming: driving for ten minutes through a menu shows simply that he wasn’t prepared.
I think reviewrs should learn and show how to move through menus, simply because the buyer, after awhile, can do it quickly.
I know Oly has an annoying menu style, but I can go through it in a heartbeat, and I’m not Einstein.
The wheel lock system should be appreciated, yet he can only make a joke with words pen and PENs.
He tried to shoot at f0.95, to test focus peaking, under blazing sun: 1/8000 is not enough in my opinion, without an ND filter.
No 4/3 lens tried: a 50mm could have rocked in some street portraits.
He says the camera has everything you would ask/expect from a serious camera: why being so depressed while saying it?
Yes, it looks like a camera, it won’t shine around your neck as a Ep5 or as gX7, but as long it let’s you take good photos.. 😉 surprise, it’s a camera!
I think you got it right with the ND Marco.
I use the Pen FT zuiko 38mm at 1.8 very often (not even near 0.95) and frequently have to use a 3 stop ND, or the E-M5 just flashes the 4000 in the viewfinder. But that’s Sydney sunshine. I use the Format Hitech 67mm system is nice and small and so easy to put on and take off.
JimD I own that 50mm f0.95, and I can’t really use it at 1/4000 sec under bright light: everything is obviously blown up.
I always have a B+W 6 BL 64x ND filter, at least until evening comes.
Kai should a) do more funny “reviews” or b) organize and do better reviews..
We know that Ming Thein works for Olympus, I’m not questioning testers’ opinions here, nor if they’re biased or not: only the way reviews are done. His review was done on the streets, it’s complete and shows great image samples.
I’d like to see some video review from him too.
I think you mean Robin Wong, Marco. I’m pretty sure Ming Thein works for Ming Thein 🙂
You’re right David! I sometimes confuse the two names, even if they’re different photographers! Thanks for pointing it out!
Definitly!
It is not a “review”. It´s a video about “kai likes a camera or not…”. There is almost no objectiv looking at the device as you already explained.
It feels much more like, because every serious reviewer out there is doing a piece about this camer, he is forced to do it too.
Obviously he is bored about it… there is no effort to explain something.
And even if his approach was a much more funny “I tell you if I like a cam or not”, the bloom is off the rose.
Watching him bores me, there is no info at all. When I saw him hitting the little knob on the mode dial for almost 30 seconds only to complain about the looks for the next two and a half minutes… what an uninspired crashing bore he is.
Compare this shitty “review” to the ones from camerastore which pretty much stand out. But even the geeky “ralfs fotobude” is more exciting.
Quit watching Kai over a year ago and was just remembered why.
Regarding to conditions for shooting wide open, I have never done sessions in HK/Kowloon but in Indonesia you have constant smog in the big cities, either from pollution or the ever present fine dust. This already works like a diffuser, making bright sun scenarios easier to deal with, compared with sessions i do here sometimes on the beach. I always shoot wide open and got used to deal with fast lenses use under such circumstances. 0.95 is extreme but since my E-M5 needs around +1 stop overexpose, it can be done in most situations(though I prefer early morning or late afternoon as ideal timings)
Yes Ulli, but in the video it seems the sun is shining bright, when he was using that SLR Magic lens. And he was talking about focus peaking: he could have set MF on any lens and tried focus peaking.
yes Marco I realise that and I think the fact that you needed a ND filter when you used that 0.95 is really caused by the much cleaner air in your area. When i said smog, it doesn’t mean you cant have bright sun situations, I have the impression the smog there or in Jakarta consist of a mix of polution and fine dust, it looks like you have clean air but the intensity really gets reduced. My brightest lens I had was the CV 50mm f/1.1 which i always used at 1.1 because of the typical rendering which i loved, also in bright sun light in the netherlands. Bit challenging, but by finding a good position did help alot. Its possible I might change my opionion when i would have to shoot in your area.
I’ve never been to Indonesia, but I’ve spent a fair bit of time in Malaysia and Thailand, and quite recognize what you are talking about. In my experience however it also slightly changes the color temperature of the light (a bit warmer, ie, less blue, more red)
Its possible the warmer tones you mentioned are present in Indonesia too. I guess light has subtle differences in characteristic all over the world 🙂
OLYMPUS pls listen!:
You should go for iPhone philosophy!!!!!
– make simple cameras
– let the user buy the Apps he wants in an App Store
=> Body becames cheaper (you will sell more)
=> Everyboy can configure the Camera he/she wants to have (you can earn additional Money)
=> also external People will make Apps (takes the Focus on you!)
=> Sony is already on Track …. (Don’t be Late ….)
Regards
Alexander
If you want an iPhone, go buy an iPhone, it has a builtin camera and totally runs your apps.
But as a serious photographer making some money from his work, I really don’t want such crap on my camera, I want the camera do reliably and consistently do the things its made for.
you are a still yesterday borne type… what I wrote is the future!!! Pasta.
if you like it or not. And the one who miss the future will loos. I guess panasonic got it!…
No, but besides doing lots of photography, both for leisure and for money, I’m a software architect and programmer by trade, with about a quarter century experience in the design and implementation of embedded systems. Unlike you, I realize the technical consequences of what you are asking for and how those get in the way of the primary requirements of professional use. Unlike you it seems, I understand what a real-time system is and why all photographic cameras that keep professional use in mind use one.
That doesn’t entirely stop the use of ‘apps’, but it will quite limit what such apps can be used for, and how far they can be integrated with the camera.
What you suggest is extremely desirable for the consumer market as many people there are interested in how easily they can do ‘fun’ things with content, while not caring too much about the actual quality of what they capture, or about missing that one important shot during an event that would have footed their bill because the camera ran out of memory and had to spend a few secs on ‘garbage collection’ first.
What have Panasonic got, oh I forgot, sub standard still imaging, yes they have improved that part of the job but it still falls short of premier division images.
Sure it does… Which is why Most reviews put the Panasonic sensor on par with the E-M1/E-P5..
Some sub level humans just hate Panasonic just because….. It’s a Panasonic.
Yep, just like you hate Olympus just because its Olympus.
But indeed, a few Panasonics produce raws of the same quality level as all recent Olympus cameras, and have gotten a lot better at jpeg output, but this doesn’t apply to all of them, and the best are still a bit behind in jpeg output.
Nevermind, you can complain about Panasonic hate, don’t let facts get in the way of that.
Honestly, I could care less about Jpeg quality because I shoot Raw 99% of the time. Even still, it was proven that the GX7 has improved jpeg quality.
I for one enjoy processing my photos out of the camera, not relying on anyone’s jpeg output. With film, you can go to the local drug store to have your film processed, or you can do it yourself. I happen to like processing my own pics.
Which is all fine, but it so happens that things like news and events pay for my photography hobby, and quick turnaround times are rather important for that, hence good jpeg output matters to me, and many people like me.
Additionally, with the ability to fine-tune the engine, and re-process raws in-camera, you can quite affect how the ‘raw development’ is being done still, so the ‘picture’ you present is a bit incomplete and actually incorrect.
You certainly do get a lot more control over ‘raw development’ when using a computer with proper software, which is totally preferable when having the time for that.
Oh please… journalism wise, I can take a pic with my GX7 or 6D, and send it to my phone, and send it to wherever it needs to go. Email, twitter, facebook, instagram, whatever. Shoot, my GX7 has nfc, so I can bump it against my Galaxy Note 2 and send it where it needs to go even faster. Even better, I have dedicated photo editing apps on my ipad, so I dont even need my mac for photo editing. So I can be just as fast with a raw file, compared to a jpeg.
You’ll still have to convert that raw into something usable, and doing so with the limited power of an ipad works but doesn’t exactly get you all the control, workflow and performance that a full blown computer system gets you, hence the advantages are rather watered down. What is more, having the camera already do this conversion simply saves time, as you have less data to transfer to your ipad, and less work to do.
If you want to do the conversion on your ipad, good for you, and more power to you, but you are a stupid moron for deliberately not wanting to understand the significant savings in time that can be had from being able to simply prevent that step.
Comments like tbese crack me up. The gh1 had much better iq than the pens, then the gh2, gx1, g3 were leap years ahead of the pens. Now that the omd has decent iq the fanboys forgot about all that. And the gh3 has the exact same iq as the omd, with the gx7 being a fraction better, the primes and pro zooms are also top notch so what the hell are you talking about?
The GH1 sensor was indeed the best 4/3″ sensor at the time, and the watered down versions that made it into some Panasonic cameras were indeed better then those of contemporary PENs.
But there is a bit more to photography, for example, until the GH3, Panasonic’s TTL flash support was sub-par at best, not to mention the lack of support for remote TTL flashes. Not very relevant maybe to a street shooter, but quite relevant to photography in general still.
“Leap years ahead” …. Er, yeah, right. Scintillating point. Well done. Bravo.
im not here to scintillate you, its a fact, you can either take it g=for what it is or make a stupid comment about it.
@alexander: I disagree with your “vision” of a future, app-centric camera. I would not have such a thing. If I can automatically, in a well controlled way transfer pictures to a “computer” and run apps there, that is fine.
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I don’t know why you suddenly switch topic and talk about pasta, though. But it made me hungry…
apps are just additional – watch at Sony!!! they already have this, even the A7….. (you maybe dreaming of)
QUOTE: Alexander:
“You should go for iPhone philosophy!!!!!
…
=> Body becames cheaper”
Yeah, because we all know how cheap Apple’s stuff is.
What Apple has achieved with its “simplified” devices is that they totally
rely on visual feedback to operate them. Physical buttons might be more ugly, but
you can use them without looking, e.g. when you MP3-Player is in your Jeans-Pocket.
That generated a whole new way of human walking, with people staring at the screen like zombies. A camera you need to be able to operate while you look through the VF, so ugly buttons are still the best way to do it.
You might be right regarding apps, that will definitly come and some of them might actually be useful.
I talked from additional apps, e.g. Panorama Stiching etc. !
Some like it, some not. Same with all the art filters…
The essential buttons still have to in hardware. but some additional apps to have would be nice! I could configure a bit my own om-d ! how nice.
I don’t need color saturation effects, but if someone like it, pls feel free to download & pay for it.
This is the philosophy Sony already gets. They even opened their interface for programer all over the world. In MY opinion the is the FUTURE !
(go for it or die)
I got the Em1 with the 12-40mm lens yesterday. It´s a very small but surprisingly heavy camera (with 12-40 handling is not so great). The lens is superb! The camera is nice but the controls are fiddly. The evf is large but I have the impression of looking at a screen not at the outside world. The main reason why I am going to return it is that I don´t like it´s image rendering in comparison to my e-pl1 or Canon 6d. The Em1 looks very digital with an oversaturated red channel that tends to clip early. Noise reduction smudges detail that the jpeg engine tries to recover by applying aggressive sharpening and contrast.
The Raws don´t look much different, at least with the Oly Viewer 3.
To get a natural looking image, I have to dial in -2 sharpness, -1 contrast and use the neutral color mode. Now it looks not too digital but very flat. (e-pl1 with pany 25mm 1.4 and i-enhance at iso 100 looks stunning)
It´s hard work to get the rendering right – it´s too much effort to me and for what it can do and it´s way too expansive. I´ll wait and look at an e-pl 7 when it comes out.
noise reduction should be “off” or “low” to prevent detail smudging – with carefull sharpening and noise reduction in pp the images look not bad till iso 3200
Id agree with that
Go to Settings menu, G Purple menu. Try to set noise reduction to Auto and Noise Filter to low. Turn off Warm Colors. If you are still not satisfied, well, I’m sorry! 😉
great kai who don´t even know how to hold a camera likes it.. ROTFL
Kai gives himself away completely right at the start by asking, “Should you pay a stupidly high amount for a mirrorless camera?”
Meaning a mirrorless camera is an inferior species, one infers. Pardon me, Kai, your prejudice is showing.
Doesn’t qualify the question. WHY would it be stupid to spend a high amount on a mirrorless yet (presumably, by inference), not on an SLR? This is the logic of a fool who needs to justify such a statement by making comparison with other cameras and costs. He barely explores THIS camera, never mind others. All we know is, he doesn’t like how it looks. Yet by the end, grudgingly admits it delivers. Surely this means the camera is designed for function above form – which shoots down his personal view of how it looks. And if Kai were so keen on function, why is this video shot on a Canon and not a GH3? – which is acknowledged to have superior video performance for the LOW price you pay for it !
All in all, a bum video and Kai is just getting sillier. Give up, Kai, or come into the real world – the future is going to be at least partly mirrorless whether you like it or not.
the future may is mirrorless.. once the EVF are really good (they are far from that now)….but it´s sure NOT m43.
The future of mirrorless will be a mix of MFT, APS-C and FF. There’s room for everybody. Even for 1” sensor mirrorless!
There are always compromises in the field of photography and no system reigns supreme over another just because of the sensor size. Besides IQ there are other variables: size and weight, cost, DOF (some need deeper some need shallower), weather proofing etc.
In my opinion, the best combination of formats is MFT+FF. The first for everyday shooting, traveling photos and the second for hight iso shooting, studio shooting.
For portraits, macro, landscape both formats are great if you have the right lenses.
But Kai is RIGHT! Only a fanboy or a 43 glass owner, wouldn’t consider the E-M1 expensive. If I was looking for a new camera in the $1500 to $2000 range, this camera, for what it is, would be easily overlooked. There are just too many better options in that price range from M43 all the way to Full Frame!
Id rather get a Canon 6D over the E-M1, EASILY, but I already have one, hahaha! I’d even advise friends to get a GH3, GX7 or the 6D over the E-M1.
What? only one word fully capitalized? Scream louder my friend, it will make you more right!
I went from E30 to EM5 because of size. I rarely took it with me for vacations, walks etc. It had always to be a concious decision to take it with me. The em5 changed that. It is almost always with me, honestly. Little crumbler bag carrying my wallet, cell and cam. Nice.
Bought the additional bg to attach it now and then e.g. when I need better ergonomics for a shootings or else.
Gab regarding iq to APSC is negligible. Nikon is still ahead but honestly, you wouldn´t see the difference. Canon is already behind. It all summs up to the mft system which allows things to be DSLR-big like GH3 or even EM1 to small EPM2 and tiny GM1.
What can be better than this, some nice small lenses (20,25,45,75) and two boddies, one big and semi-pro, one light for travel.
Maximum flexibility.
It is all out there!!!
Same here E30 only used occasionally as to big to carry. Moved to E-M5 and now use very often. I bought a CV 21mm Skopar, I use it a lot. I call it my snapshot lens. Set at f8 and 2 metres and everything is in focus, great for family occasions and grandchildren are always in focus. Its also sharp enough to do a fare bit of cropping if required.
Yeah…. keep dreaming M43 is just as good as aps-c… its close, but not level. Fuji has a better sensor than any M43 camera. Stop being blind and spitting propaganda. .
“Yeah…. keep dreaming M43 is just as good as aps-c… its close, but not level. ”
The post you replied to isn’t saying that, its saying the gap is so small it doesn’t matter most of the time.
There being a gap means…
Wait for it…
…
Oh yes, it means its not level.
I wonder, are you just incapable of reading? incapable of comprehending what you read? Or do you deliberately twist other peoples words into something you can dismiss in your typical arrogant way?
LOL, very funny video!
An unbelievable lack of skill in filming!
What I understand is to never buy a Canon 5D!!!
How you can pretend to do a camera review while being unable to get a decent videographer to film it. The guy is absolutely unable to keep the frame, focus, exposition, horizon, moves like jelly, forgets to compose, and best of all, in the few seconds we see him with the 5D, he gets confused and holds the camera with the finger over the lens :))
STOP.
Don’t you ever try and throw stones at the Canon 5D! That camera TRUMPS ANY Olympus camera, aside from size! Fanboyism only makes you say stupid things.
Cost?
If Cost=Value, then I would still say the MkIII trumps the E-M1. Why are we even going there? The E-M1 can’t even sit in the MkIII’s shadow. I’m done here…
Cost is a payment made. Value is a perception. They are as close together as the north and south poles. Cost does not and never will = value. Marketers use them synonymously when they want to ‘pull the wool’.
I don’t understand why this guy gets the credit that he does and why his videos are given any credit by websites such as this one. His reviews are completely useless. He is just a joke. He makes unfounded remarks. What are his credentials? What has he done to get this kind of attention? Can someone else please take his place?
Wow a lot of you M43 lovers are really blind. Kai always points out the weakness and strong points of a camera in a kind of funny/other way. And if you M43 fangirls don’t like it you always go personal (M43 against the rest of the world). Thats just really pathetic. I think Kai did a good job on the EM1. In short: The EM1 is way to expensive, its ugly, takes decent photo’s, sucks in video, has a lot of good features, has a lot of stupid features, its big, handles good, etc etc etc….. O and did i mention its ugly. Kai got a really good point. M43 should go back to its roots. Stylish small not so expensive camera’s with decent picture quality. If somebody wants a expensive good camera they are not going to pay 1400 euro for a big semi DSLR with small sensor. They are going for a real DSLR or Fuji or Sony. So please face the music and get real. M43 is fun but at this point just ridiculous expensive for what you get.
1) I dont share your view on Kai and his kind of review. Would he say something like “I personally find it ugly”, it would be fine with me but instead he proclaimes “it IS an ugly one”… always a matter of taste, isn´t it!?
I like and own some MFT-stuff, I also like shooting a friends Nikon d7100 and 5dmk2 for special occasions. They all have their pros and cons. And it wouldn´t be a great deal to cover this fact much more unbiased as so many other reviewers do.
2) Like you, he also brings the argument about size, which is a false one. It would not be wise to make the EM1 smaller, because it is suposed to handle all the big 43lenses too. If you need smaller, there are plenty options you can choose from. So, MFT never left it´s way. They offer something for everybodys need, small, medium and “large”.
Yeh Viezevure, I have seen some of your comments before. I think that you must be related to Kai. He makes all kinds of claims (like calling four thirds cameras crap)without ever having tried the cameras. Your credibility is just about as good as his. I use Olympus products but also use Sony products, Fuji, Canon, and Leica. None of these cameras can be called crap. They all have their stronger and weaker points. Simple minds always see things as either being black or white. They just can’t deal with anything in between.
m43… cameras for the poor and weak.
lol…..
Well, some people laugh at their own jokes, no matter how boring the joke is…
That’s me! Yay! 🙂
What do the rich and strong carry in their purse these days? A Technikardan with a Leaf?
It’s a nice £800 camera, what it’s not is a nice £1300 one. Olympus are fooling nobody with their crazy prices.
They just got pawned with Sony’s A7, I bet the board room went nuts when that came out at the same price.
Micro 4/3 v FF same price = Not a hope
Which totally explains why Olympus is swamped by demand and can’t seem to deliver cameras fast enough…
Don’t get me wrong, I’m quite looking at the A7 and A7r, but first of all, even the A7 isn’t the same price (1700 is NOT the same as 1500, and if it is in your mind, I bet you won’t mind paying me 1000 times the difference, since 1000 times nothing is still nothing). Second the cameras simply don’t compare other then both being mirrorless.
+1000
What was Olympus thinking with pricing like that? Fleecing fanbois, is my guess. 😉
If you adapt manual lenses, the A7(r) looks great. Forget the few native lenses that are currently available. With rangefinder lenses @ 35mm or longer, it seems just about perfect. Still, it’s a version 1 product, so I’m looking forward to see what Version 2 brings to the table.
“If you adapt manual lenses, the A7(r) looks great. Forget the few native lenses that are currently available. With rangefinder lenses @ 35mm or longer, it seems just about perfect.”
Oh, how great… :/
Forget the measly three FE lenses made for the “system”, and resort to adapting old inferior film era lenses, provided they’re longer than 35mm that is – ét voila, everything is “perfect”!
Yeah, right.
Not everyone’s perception of a perfect system, I’d say.
Well well, as long as it looks great…
No intentions of buying the A7, they might be fun for MF 35mm lens users with an adaptor. Simply pointing out that the OMD-EM1 nice as it is..is a ridiculous price (in Europe at least)
I have been reading this “blog” for about one year now and more and more this is what I have observed:
1) Many people come here to simply hate on other opinions and brands
2) Some come to get validation on their purchase choices to make them feel secure about thier deciesions
3) There are quite a few posters with no objectivity or class of any kind, sounding like ignorant teens bashing on others
4) There is a smaller group of objective posters that can express opinions without being children
5) Most importantly, there are fewer and fewer posters with something constructive to contribute
When I read these posts I often think of TV talk shows like Jerry Springer and the like. Too bad for the admin because he could have quite a bit more traffic if this was not loaded up with so much swill and stupidity. I have noticed that those that are competent or good photographers tend to stay off here, unfortunate.
yes, very true
A very perceptive comment, well observed and articulated.
Thanks for this comment. People need to step back, take a deep breath, and decide what it is they really want to do in photography. There are some wonderful products out there, but like anything else, your buying decisions should reflect the technological compromises you are prepared to make, the trends you have already established in life, future realities as opposed to dreams, and what you actually can accomplish in the time available to you.
I moved to m43 in 2008 (from FF), as don’t regret it one bit. I found this forum very useful in the beginning, as I also found EOSHD for learning about video, but now I visit infrequently due to the volume of inane commentary. However, most of the photography blogs are similarly afflicted, so probably will continue to scan 43rumors first. People have a right to be stupid, but it does get tiresome when it is always in your face.
Sad, but true.
I think, the (Dis)Like voting system of comments (like on Youtube) could help. Specific Dislike threshold is reached, the comment is hidden. Specific Like threshold is reached, the comment is moved to top. There’s just a need to think about abuse deviation. What do you think @admin ? I bet there’s already something for WordPress.
I´d like that idea.
I keep enjoying Kai’s offhand manner. He reminds me that the British might have left some of it with the language.
Why get crazy about any piece of hardware. The old generation was diffident, in a way Kai reminds us that being there for a photographer is everything.
So those of you (Europeans pay 40% more) who protest because the camera, obsolete in 6 months, is atrociously expensive, will find in Kai a brother of sorts.
Having said that, while teasing Oly, I think he conveys respect. Check how fast and effortless is he in street shots, and how perfectly exposed they are. That’s Kai with Oly.
From what I have observed, Kai is pretty good at street shooting. He enjoys making criticisms in an exaggerated way, annoying to many but also entertaining those with a particular kind of humour (and who own expensive Nikons and Leicas…) No, he is not a fan of mirrorless cameras. The fact that he can continue to make video reviews and you are still watching them, means he is doing something right.
I use an E-M5 and have been a long time Olympus user. I agree with most of the faults he found in the E-M1 (for someone who does not own 43 lenses), i.e. the fiddly covers for the hot shoe and accessory point, the mismatch of style (the huge DSLR grip on an old classic SLR looking camera), the high price etc. Although he makes it seem he just casually criticises all those things without thought, I am sure he did his homework and deliberately uses this particular way or style to deliver the message. I remember how scathing he was with the X-Pro1, rubbishing its AF as well as its manual focusing (true weaknesses), and so I say those who get offended just note it is not just M43 or Olympus he is picking on and definitely not picking on you. You get offended because of your own attitude. You do not need to continue to watch his video!
“The fact that he can continue to make video reviews and you are still watching them, means he is doing something right.”
Yea. And people still line up to watch the drunk come out of the bar and trip over the same step every Friday. And they still laugh the same. Every Friday
This E-M1 has to satisfy 43 users and therefore is bigger, more expensive, and compromised in a couple of things for those who consider it as an E-M5 update, which it is not. I am looking forward to that one, an E-M6 that does not have the PDAF sensor but one that has 20MP and real improvement in IQ from all the current M43 cameras (all the same IQ sort of), a smaller size but with improved built-in grip from the E-M5, and also all the latest features as in the E-M5 – 1/8000 sec, FP, … and a more friendly price than for niche cameras (both the E-P5 and E-M1).
So, don’t worry about the small faults in the E-M1, a special edition in the OM-D line. It is a “bridge” camera IMO, bridging 43 users and other brand DSLR users to M43, while the real mainstream E-M5, the real deal, successors evolve. Watch out for the latest and greatest E-M5 replacement with all the best available features in 2014.
There was a time when I found kia amusing but now his lame jokes and reviews are when without substance or quality but I don’t think he or the producer of that DRTV channel care because they still rate.
Some things he nails on the head but he can be very misleading with half truths and sometimes outright bias garbage statements.
Well said.
At first Kai was mildly entertaining but now, not so much
let alone informative.
Who’s’ next?
@ viezevure, I agree with you.
You don’t have to list features to convey a message – Kai does it very well. He is also a natural to Street Shooting so I can gather very well how a camera in his hands rates in this respect. Probably the GX7 is as good as the E-M1 in this respect – Kai shows it though his ‘street dance’, and it is much less expensive, so Kai also cuts through the crap.
Probably not many understand Street Shooting, but I appreciate those who understand the requirement: responsiveness, good haptics, quick AF and right AE. There’s a moment when Kai tests CAF+ tracking with quick fps an he is really pleased. How not to notice that it is the very strong feature of the E-M1.
But I agree this could be had on a cheaper model, the younger generation couldn’t care less about legacy 4/3 AF, and basically you are paying for that.
“Probably not many understand Street Shooting, but I appreciate those who understand the requirement: responsiveness, good haptics, quick AF and right AE. There’s a moment when Kai tests CAF+ tracking with quick fps an he is really pleased. How not to notice that it is the very strong feature of the E-M1.”
I sincerely hope that if you are in the group who thinks to understand street shooting, you realize CAF+tracking is seldom used for the most part. 🙂
– Rasit
Well I never use it, but Kai showed that it can – just in the last frames of the video – with a quick walking passer by. Point in case being that all the frames are in focus.
Steve Huff did the same with a galloping horse, and got all frames in focus.
Only an idiot would laugh about the added possibility. There goes your snide remark.
What Kai did was a snapshot test. Not a single shot he took there is a good shot (and I am sure Kai himself knows this).
“Only an idiot would laugh about the added possibility. There goes your snide remark.”
As someone who has been doing street (night life no less) life for several years now I could but only laugh at your moronic attempt to prove otherwise. Actually not even laugh, because it’s actually sad. That’s how far off you are here.
I am not going by theory here or what could be, I am going by practice. It’s just not the way you shoot. And if you even remotely think otherwise don’t think for a second the likes of Cartier Breson or Vivian Maier would have embraced this at all. Look at how they shot and why- there’s a premeditated seeing and anticipation. CDAF/pray and spray won’t save you here.
brace it m43 is dead bigger sensors coming on cheaper cameras so why pay more for less amalric start selling your gear and buy sony 🙂 olympus is dead
Kai: a douche looking for its nozzle
If you like good stand-up DRTV has hit the mark with this funny man.
As far as providing anything beyond a 3rd grade audience on the technical aspects of new cameras, in my opinion they have the wong kai.
Not sure how exactly he liked it- I guess barely liked or something. Or maybe he was just sick. This has to be probably the most un-enthusiastic review I have seen him do in a very very long time.
Test between Nikon D4 and EM-1
I have no respect for the idiot using the D4.
Big No No, .. Take expensive lens off camera
Place it on the ground
Reverse the lens hood (no lens cap!)
Stick it in his bag, No caps at all!
Clearly no respect for the equipment.
He is just a clown!
Kay doesn’t like mirror less ? well, he does, but only Leica 🙂
I love his video, they are funny.
Some one complain about the video quality, blablabla, i think that they don’t try to get high quality video, yes, some times it’s not frame in the right way, but who cares ? We are not watching a Martin Scorsese film !!!
So, at the end of the day, i do like a bit the EM1, but, it’s too expensive, specially now with the price of FF like 6D around 1500€
If FF was at 2000€, then yes, at 1500 euro the EM1 would be nice, but:
For the same price, we can now get a Sony A7 !!!
Full frame, light, great performance.
What else mister Clooney 🙂
So suddenly we have Condor Ricardo flying above us, to teach the error in our ways:
“CDAF/pray and spray won’t save you here.”
How else could S. Huff and Kai illustrate Oly’s jewel of the crown, PDAF on sensor?
One chose a galloping horse (paid by Oly), the other a quick Chinese (not paid by Oly).
Both were sprayed, but none were prayed: all the sequences were in perfect focus. QED.
Ricardo the Condor however poohpoohs, stating that it doesn’t correspond to the Street Shooting technique of the 1930s.
ROTFL
Am, PDAF effectiveness could have been better shown taking a single shot, in my opinion, instead of a burst. Just to see the AF tracking and how quick it is (to track the moving subject and snap it).
the greatest street shooters that ever where used MF
and theres an awful lot of Leica M crew that are still into that
m43 is for wannabes just check the new fuji i still prefer shoot with iphone3
Kai is a superficial dilettante. It would never even cross my mind to include his opinion in the opinion basket when considering the purchase of a box of tissues, let alone a camera.
Actually, I might consider his opinion if I wanted to buy a mirror.
He is ‘Kai’, what do you expect?
http://evchk.wikia.com/wiki/Kai
I like how he throws in a Panasonic GX7 in there, to compare “looks”. I would say that if he changed his mind about MFT was because of the GX7 and not the E-M1.
Boehoehoehoe. Kai says the truth and we M43 fangirls don’t like that. We only want to here that M43 is the best ever. Boehoehoe Kai is a bad boy.
Damn lot of you M43 lovers are so pathetic…..
“…NEVER BE AN IDEAL VIDEO CAMERA.”
LOL!!… Oh, Kai…..
Kai should be far more worried about the appearance of his nose than look of the E-m1. He is a smug SOB and we all know it.
I’ve never seen more “hate” mail directed at a camera reviewer, or for that matter any digital celebrity. He is rapidly loosing viewership. Deservedly so! What a biased prick.
Sorry, but I was buying and using film AND digital cameras when Kai was still sperm developing in his father’s ‘nads.
Remember, just because he has a blog doesn’t mean he’s right! It all comes down to being controversial.
My D100 was about $2200; my 20D was about $1980 and my 7D was about $1770. So about $1400 for a mirror less camera isn’t really all that bad.
I’m not sure what he means when he asks the rhetorical question at the beginning insinuating mirrorless cameras are too expensive for what the are. I bet it brought in the clicks and the track-backs though… 😉