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Could the new Panasonic FZ-1000 be all the camera you need?

As a system camera user it’s hard to get excited about fixed lens compact cameras. But the Panasonic FZ-1000 announced today really shake up the premium compact and fixed lens market. First of all it’s priced much lower ($400 less!) than the only competitor to date: The Sony RX10. You can check the price and preorder the Panasonic FZ-1000 at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here) and BHphoto (Click here). In Europe at WexUK (Click here). Here are a list of reasons why that camera is very intriguing:

1) 25-400mm f/2.8-4.0 lens. It has a damn useful zoom (and aperture) range that covers almost all the possible needs you could have when travelling.
2) The lens has no orion-ring effect on the bokeh just like the $1499 Nocticron 42,5mm f/1.2 lens! (Source: DC.watch).
3) It uses the same Sony 20.1 MP 1 inch large sensor of the new RX100M3. But the FZ-1000 seems to have a better performance at 1600 ISO (see Studio Scene comparison at Dpreview).
4) Has an optical 5 axis stabilization.
5) Unlike Sony’s RX10/Rx100M3 Panasonic fully unlocked the sensors 4K recording potential. Now we have 4K at 30fps and 100mbit/s!
6) It has the same Panasonic GH4 processor engine.
7) The EVF doesn’t appear to be a field-sequential panel, meaning it’s free from the RGB ‘tearing’ that undermined that model’s shooting experience (for some people).

This is really a great camera! So here is the short question:

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  1. Pana has really been doing so well lately.. The Noct is the sharpest lens I have used on m4/3, the GH4 is an amazing camera, and now this little guy is looking very, very good.

  2. Am I the only one who could care less about this camera? The Micro Four Thirds sensor is the perfect compromise of sensor size/weight vs picture quality. Anything less than that sensor I might as well buy lenses for my iPhone …

    1. 1″ is still a very nice size for a sensor, big enough to back a decent punch in terms of performance (and make it still relatively easy to play around with shallow DoF), while small enough that it enables huge and fast telezooms like this one to be built in rather small packages! 😀

      1. Agreed. I used to be skeptical of 1″ sensors, but the tech has really come along and it’s clearly better than anything found in a phone. If organic sensors pencil out in reality with what the people at panasonic and Fuji are saying, look for 1″ sensors to become the new m43, and m43 to become the new APS-C and APS-C to become the new FF.

      2. Let me divulge a deep insight:
        1″ is a nice size for a pocket camera. Like the Sony 100 series. It is not so sufficient for a huge virtually dSLR sized camera.

        1. Allow me to burst your swollen balloon. More small sensors are coming which will be far superior to todays small sensors. Most photographers hands will not shrink accordingly, so therefore sensors will be smaller but an ergonomically useable camera will remain about the same size.

          Just simple physics. Better just get used to it.

    2. With FF gaining more traction lately, I think 1″ and m4/3 formats position themselves nicely in the middle between those high end FF and the typical compact sensor sizes. I agree that for me, m4/3 is the right balance for quality right now, but 1″ is close, and in a few years it will probably cut the mustard too.
      By the way, don’t you mean you “couldn’t care less”? People say it your way all the time, and it doesn’t make sense to me. If you could care less, doesn’t that mean that you at least care some?

        1. Funny how you read Zeikon’s post – (the REAL Zeikon), and immediately your mind turns to “naked men”.

          Jerk much?

          1. I have nothing against poofs and yanks, as long as they keep quiet about it. Don’t make a display.

        2. SD, it’s a little creepy now that you actually think you’re me. Perv3 does suit you though.

          You get this upset because I have some fun with you? Put your Nikon 1 down and put your pants back on bud. We’re still waiting for your explanation of the advantages of 4k. Cameras… remember?

  3. its nice camera for the people who dont plan to invest many into to photography, need big zoom and use video

    so not for me …Iike buing new lenses and uprading bodies

    …so overall I am happy with versatility of m43 portfolio …and teoreticaly waiting for some m43 fixed lens camera …like Trip D

  4. What irritates me about this is that they don’t put the actual focal length of the lens anywhere on the page. It’s all in “35mm equivalent” terms, except it isn’t because they’re claiming f/2.8-4 25-400mm equivalency. That’s not even close to accurate.

    1. yeah..but you cannot use your avatar on this camera…so why is “news” about it posted here?????

    2. Crop factor should be 2.7X same as all the other cameras with this sensor.
      On fixed lens crop sensor cameras how useful is actual focal length to anyone but pedants?

      1. You’re failing to take into account the smaller sensor. DoF and low light performance wouldn’t be anywhere close to a 25-400 at f/2.8-4 on a 35mm sensor. They’d be somewhere in the ballpark of a f/7.56-10.8 25-400.

        It’s misleading because they’re claiming you’re going to get performance comparable to a 25-400 at f/2.8-4, but you’re not.

        1. You will get the same light passing through as f/2.8

          Why do so many photographers not get it, f stop is a property of the *LENS* and not the sensor!!!! D’oh, most basic of basic physics here.

          1. “You will get the same light passing through as f/2.8”

            Per unit area, yes, but onto a smaller sensor which will gather less of that light. That means more gain to get the same ISO rating. To get the same performance you’ll have to turn the gain (ISO) down and open up the lens more to get the same *total* light and therefore the same required gain and noise performance.

          2. One only has to look into the Physic aspect, has a keen
            observation and apply logical conclusion to know that F2.8 is F2.8 in any format.
            1. Physic aspect.
            Yes, it is true that FF lens can gather 4x light than MFT lens, but the
            4x light has to share with 4x Sensor size. In another words, light intensity/pixel or light intensity/mm is the same in FF or MFT. Therefore, in term of light gathering ability, F 2.8 in FF is equal to F2.8 in MFT. Only the FOV and DOF will increase by factor of 2. Because of the FF has a 4x bigger sensor size and bigger pixel pitch, it will no doubt has less noise and better high iso results. How much better is
            depends on individual to draw their own conclusion after looking at the
            comparison photos in Dpreview or imaging-resource. One does not need Tom Northrup fake charts and bias views to show us.

            2. Observation. One just has to fixed iso, aperture to
            observe that the shutter speed on a FF camera, MFT camera or any compact cameras is the same. Yes again, F1.8 is F1.8 is equal on all format in terms of light gathering ability. Only FOV and DOF is dependent on crop factor.

            3.Logic. Base on your conclusion, F2.8 in FF is actually F5.6 in MFT. If I have a camera phone that has a crop factor of 14 and an F-stop value stated is 2.8, will the equivalence F-stop be 39.2 on the camera phone? Can anyone take any picture with such
            dim Lens? What will the shutter speed be at F39.2?!

          3. Just to clarify, none of my charts are fake, and I don’t have any particular bias. I use MFT, full frame, APS-C, and even smartphones. I have no relationship with any camera manufacturer, and I trade my cameras in constantly.

            I took actual sample pictures demonstrating the effects on pictures when you keep either light intensity or total light gathered constant, and anyone is welcome to attempt to reproduce my results. That’s the scientific method. If I’m wrong, you’ll get different results.

            You actually seem to agree with all my conclusions, however, so I’m not sure why you have a negative tone. You say that, “it will no doubt has less noise and better high iso results.” We agree! But I can show you how to be more precise.

            My experiments determined that you can calculate exactly how much better by simply applying the crop factor to the aperture or the crop factor squared to the ISO. So, you no longer need to use vague measurements like, “less noise” or “better high ISO results” when doing comparisons. You can say, “It has very similar angle of view, total light gathering ability, total sensor noise, and depth of field as a full-frame 25-400mm f/7.6-f/10.9 lens.”

            It just makes comparisons easier and more precise. DPReview is on board with this philosophy; they had an excellent chart showing the equivalent apertures on their page for this camera.

          4. and your experiments agree with basic geometric optics. Unless the subject is very close; then, the working f-number should be used (which is actually what some cameras display with

          5. Tony, you are battling marketing folks here, not people who want to learn something. You stand no chance against the powers of marketing. Thank you for your good (and true) videos, anyway.

          6. “3.Logic. Base on your conclusion, F2.8 in FF is actually F5.6 in MFT. If I have a camera phone that has a crop factor of 14 and an F-stop value stated is 2.8, will the equivalence F-stop be 39.2 on the camera phone? Can anyone take any picture with such
            dim Lens? What will the shutter speed be at F39.2?!”

            You’re not looking at the whole exposure triangle here. The small sensor in your phone requires 14 times more gain to make an f/2.8 lens expose the same as if it were on FF because it’s gathering 1/14th the light the larger sensor would. That means ISO 100 on your phone is equivalent to ISO 1400 on the FF camera. Now, when you take the equivalency as f/39.2 and ISO1400 we come out to the same shutter speed, same depth of field, similar noise performance etc on the full frame camera.

            The math works! You simply aren’t accounting for the fact that the ISO has been calibrated to the sensor size and that a different ISO is required to get the same noise on a smaller sensor. Remember, multiply the ISO by the crop factor squared, the f-number by the crop factor and the focal length by the crop factor.

          7. How large the area which light is stretched is almost irrelevant. Pixel pitch is irrelevant. It’s total light gathered that matters.
            2. observation: FF cameras at 1600 ISO produce noise similar to m43 cameras at 400 ISO, give or take few percent.
            3. that made sense when film was used which had to be chemically processed. now with digital you can amplify signal at will. and f/39.2 on digital FF is quite workable in sunlight, just as camera on your phone.
            many photographers of the past did great images at f/64

          8. Pixel pitch does affect S/N ratio. Just look at Sony 7s and Nikon 600 pics.

            To my eyes, the FF is only 1.5 or less stop better than m43 except Sony 7s.

          9. It affects only if you compare per pixel noise, not per image. images need to be resized to same size before noise comparison.
            there were no comparisons by sane testers — so nothing to talk about.

          10. In fact total light gathered has nothing to do with noise. It is the pixel size/pitch that is inverse proportional to noise. As the pixel size decrease, the noisier is the image. A 8mp m43 sensor will produce the same noise as a 32mp FF sensor.

          11. As I have already told, only if you compare per pixel noise which only jerks care about. In this comparison, 32 mp sensor is better because if you need to have 8 mp, you downscale and get same SNR as if it was native 8 mp FF. or if you need 32 mp, smaller sensor doesn’t produce it at all.

          12. That’s why smaller sensors are always worse than larger ones. There are no advantages whatsoever to smaller sensors, unless price and size are kept at a sensible level.

          13. zzzz….. most of us here get it. Please everyone, end the crusade and spare us needing to scroll past all the equivalency posts.

        2. Except, you are getting the same performance in terms of exposure settings. Those who care about DoF ALREADY KNOW that a 1″ sensor camera will not have the same control of DoF… what people actually care to know is, when they look through the EVF, how far am I actually looking in terms I already have some understanding of (hence the use of 35mm equivalents)?

          1. This might be what you care for, other (better) photographers will disagree.

          2. Those better photographers already know though, right? So they are likely not interested in a camera like this at all and are likely out shooting photos and making millions instead of trolling the 43rumors comments.

          1. It’s not so much a con as a difference: you need faster glass to get the same results with a smaller sensor. Scale down the sensor, you need to scale up somewhere else. Faster glass and lower ISO numbers will yield equivalent results. You just have to apply the crop factor to the whole exposure triangle.

            I shoot mostly MFT now because of my arthritis but I shot 35mm film for most of my life. I have little or no trouble getting the results I’m accustomed to by simply using an equivalent focal length, f-number and ISO setting.

          2. Apparently. Everybody does it though and if there weren’t so many people out there who believe it, they couldn’t get away with it.

  5. Admin, why do you keep saying this uses the same Sony sensor as the RX100III, Panny is using a 10.1 MP not a 20.1 MP sensor?!! (10.1 MP being superior for the 4K crop and low light)

    1. Where did you get that from? Every site in the internet says 20.2 MP (dpreview, IR, digitalkamera.de, ….).

      1. Apparently the retailers list 10.1MP in the subject and 20.1MP in the description… very strange. Adorama:

        “Panasonic Lumix
        DMC-FZ1000 Digital Camera, 4K QFHD/HD Hybrid Photography, Leica DC
        25-400mm F2.8-4.0 Lens, 1″ 10.1MP MOS Sensor, Integrated Smartphone
        WiFi,”

        1. Okay, I see. I checked the German Panasonic site and the mention 20.1 MP. I guess the retailers are wrong. 😉

        2. Sometimes retailers gets some initial details with errors in them & then don’t bother to update them from later emails or whatever. Some can be rather slack that way.

  6. Points I dont get and where you can really tell the price savings: no ND filter, no 2nd dial, no touchscreen (Pana has the best interface) and no weather sealing. Has it Sweeppanorama?

    Couldn’t it have been superior in every way (to the RX10), except for aperture of course)? 😛

      1. Because of video or action shots in bright daylight where you need mechanical shutter (which only goes up to 1/4000). But mainly video where people tend to use 1/25-120 as shutter speed.

  7. I was interested in this new FZ1000 until I read of specs of its size – 5.5″L x 3.9″H x 5″+L.
    Guess that large size is necessary because of the size required for a 24-400mm/f2.8-4 lens with this size of sensor. .It should be obvious that providing such zoom capacity and lens speed on a similar superzoom with a larger sensor like m4/3 or others would not be practical.

    Given the FZ1000 designation and its $900 price, I would expect that Pany will continue to produce the smaller popular FZ200 model as well.

  8. If it does 4Kp30 and 1080p24, why does it not do 4Kp24? Maybe it’s just not mentioned in the specs?

  9. It’s pretty darn close being to all the camera I need! It’s a bit too large for my purse, and we’ll see about IQ, but I’m definitely giving it a chance.

  10. Good but; no ND filter, no touch screen, bit big, only 28mbps AVCHD for 1080p? perhaps Sony would not give them their XAVC. I think Sony RX10 still good option in comparison and price might fall when this one is out.

    1. They are two very strong contenders that have each their own appeal! RX10 is better for low light and portrait while FZ1000 is more video (although clickless aperture dial of the RX10 is missing) and tele.

    2. I agree on the ND filter and the 28mbps 1080p. But I sort of understand not having a touchscreen as the camera is already almost DSLR sized, so shooting with the touchscreen would be awkward at best.

    3. No touchscreen? Great! Useless on a large telephoto camera. Or do you intend to carry a tripd around with you so you can nibble on the screen with your fingers?

  11. For comparisons I just looked up the dimensions of the GH4 and surprise the FZ1000 is even bigger by about a 1/3 inch in height and width! So the FZ1000 not only for now appears to be the top superzoom available by many standards but also a less expensive alternative (more affordable) to the GH4 for all around use, wildlife photography, and 4k. Note a GH4 with 12-35/f2.8 and 100-300f5.6 lens would cost $3500 or almost 4 times that of the $900 FZ1000 ! The size of the FZ1000 body is greater partly because it is plastic not metal.

    I note that almost half the readers on this forum are interested in buying the FZ1000 and that speaks well for the product. Will be interesting to see how it checks out but the initial reports on IQ appear to be good,

      1. No. It’s too large/heavy to replace m43 fully. Or Nikon 1 or NX for that matter.

        But it does replace nicely many of the 2+ year old APS-C DSLRs.

        FZ1000 would be definitely an nice /update/ for all those who shoot with kit lenses exclusively. But unfortunately, it is priced well above the typical entry-level dual lens kit (18-55 + 75-300).

        1. It is so large and heavy that it just happens to weigh exactly the same as the E-M5 with 12-40mm zoom.

          Of course, it goes without saying that the E-M5 and 12-40mm zoom lens is not too heavy. Most other SLR type cameras weigh even more.

          1. In terms of IQ capabilities in different lighting scenarios, this Panny will be inferior to that setup. Not saying the Panny is a bad camera, but it won’t be as capable in the stills department compared to an m43’s with the 12-40 2.8. Might not be too different in good lighting, but it likely won’t have the DR or ISO sensitivity as the EM-5 setup in difficult lighting situations.

          2. If one considers the target market for this camera, the FZ1000 with it’s 4K video and outstanding Leica super-zoom lens, (yes …. pun intended), is far better suited to modern family photographers than a 2+ year old stills camera.

            My E-M5 has been relegated to a drawer (probably to be sold on eBay very soon). If I had the FZ1000, I would not leave home without it.

          3. Soccer moms are not going to have a great time dealing with 4K video on their computers though. Also, this camera is pretty huge in size… not bad for its reach, but not always practical either. That said, I agree with you that this camera is a better option for the people that just buy an entry level dslr and leave the kit lens on it.

          4. Not to mention “soccer Grandpa”. Honestly, I will probably buy this camera and then wonder why I need a “system camera”.

          5. As a soccer/T-ball Grandpa who has attended games very recently, I am bemused at the number of soccer-Moms with SLR type cameras! None of the cameras that I have seen at Little League or soccer are as worthy and capable as this FZ1000 and then again ALL of these soccer-Moms have smart-phones.

            So it is that soccer-Moms are not as easily dismissed as some may think.

        1. don’t interest ,my friend ,when sony made camera with less feature and more price but panny made camera with more feature and less price ,
          that someone on alpha rumors feel unhappy ,and they come trolling on this site 😉

        2. It’s not a very good shot, the background is disturbingly detailed and those colourful lines on the edge lead straight out of the frame. This is a matter of taste but also a common compositional standard. ISO 3200 or ISO100, you won’t see much at this size.

          1. Nobody goes to DPREVIEW’s sample gallery to be wowed by their photos and technique. We go there to see what the camera is technically capable of. We look at brightly lit landscapes to see the DR of the sensor, and how sharp the lens is across the frame, we look at higher ISO images to see how much noise/detail is retained. If I want to see good photos, I’ll look elsewhere, if I want to find a comprehensive review of the technical capabilities? I’m fine looking through dpreview’s sample gallery.

  12. Actually I would buy it but I think Panny has this year something (HC-X949?) for me in camcorder form factor with very similar spec. So I’m looking forward…

  13. In terms of price … features … usefulness … The FZ1000 is unmatched and has no competition.

    For a family camera and travel camera – an all-purpose camera with 4k video, and fabulous zoom, the FZ1000 will be a hit, (not in U.S. due to Panasonic’s notoriously absent marketing).

  14. Can it record 4K for long periods of time like the GH4? Or is there a 29 minute limit per clip? Does it handle picture profile settings the same way the GH4 does? If it records 4K indefinitely like the GH4, and uses the same picture profile settings, I would seriously consider this as a B-camera to the GH4. But if not, although it is an awesome camera otherwise I can’t see it easily being used in that capacity.

    1. The 29 minute clip length limit is a regional thing, to do with the way europe taxes video cameras compared to stills cameras, so there’s a good chance this can record until your card fills up.

  15. Really wish it wasn’t a powerzoom, or at least a less ridiculous looking one. I almost bought an RX10, but the zoom action feels absolutely awful.

  16. I just discovered some sample pics of the fz1000 on flickr https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=fz1000. From what I saw until now the Sony rx10s Zeiss lens seems to deliver much better IQ than Panas Leica in terms of sharpness and microcontrast. Since the 200mm tele end of the rx10 is sufficient for me and I’m also no videographer I’ll wait now until the rx10 prices come down a bit more….

      1. DPR blow the RX10 studio sample.
        Every one who own rx10 know its lens is much sharper than rx100’s. However, in dpr’s studio comparison, rx10 is much softer than any of rx100 series.

        1. In DPR’s studio shots, comparing the RX10 and FZ1000, I’d say both lenses are slightly decentered, resulting in inconsistent results on edged/corners. IOW, something like: one has left side sharper, other – right side. The inconsistencies IMO are well in the range between “negligible” and “zero zip zilch nada” – those are 20MP sensor cameras we are talking about after all. (Disclosure: not a full-time pro pixel-peeper.)

      2. Don’t need to proof anything to a 12 year old child like you 🙂 who doesn’t know how to photograph! I’ll get my camera and will take some beautiful pictures and am not interested in what any review says…

        1. and you think no review but you said it better ,
          so i can do that my all cams better than all your cams,
          because these is mind cams

    1. Comparing Zeiss to Crapasonic is like shooting on the red cross. Wait, they wrote “Leica” on it. LOL

  17. I think this camera looks great. The only problem for me, and it’s a deal breaker: No 24fps at 4K…

    1. just curious (not a filmographer), why is a lower framerate MORE desirable? i’m referring to the technical, not the subjective.

  18. “Could the new Panasonic FZ-1000 be all the camera you need?”

    Three years ago the answer would have been unambiguous “yes”. So I gather “yes”.

    Due to weight, it is definitely not for me.

    Crop the 1″ sensor to 1/2.3″, put it into the FZ200 – and that might be very interesting!

    1. “Crop the 1″ sensor to 1/2.3″, put it into the FZ200 – and that might be very interesting!”
      Just no.

    2. The FZ1000 is already a done deal. it looks like a winner! Panasonic will not be moved by a dummy on the internet calling for ridiculous changes in design specification.

      If this is not your dream camera, just wait a month or two . . . . the camera designers will give you more to complain about. BUT, they will not follow any ludicrous advice that will lead them to spend a pile of money to produce outdated products for one camera user who probably would just complain about it.

  19. I would rather they give us a faster constant lens aperture than a super telephoto range. Much rather they implemented a 24-85mm f/2. Add built-in ND filters and weather sealing and that would be the perfect hybrid camera for both photos and videos.

  20. This FZ1000 and Sony RX10 are good cameras, but how big is that market at the price range.

    People who go for the superzoom are looking for a vacation camera or casual birder,etc. The price may dissuade the casual buyer. Maybe there are enough people to drive the market for high end fixed lens. I know I loved my PowerShot Pro-1 with the L lens circa 2004.

    1. Sony’s pricing for the RX10 is a little much for the intended market, and with the introduction of the Panasonic FZ1000 the Sony RX10 looks even less appealing at that price.

      I am thinking that Sony will reduce the price of the RX10 very soon. The Panasonic FZ1000 is priced more realistically and will probably sell without discounting.

    1. Panny has better video… EM-10 is capable of better still IQ and has the option to be more stealthy with a pancake prime or pancake zoom.

  21. Please, just stop calling it a ‘compact’. It looks like a great camera but it’s bigger and heavier than my FF Sony A7r. Not a compact by a long shot.

          1. i think the “zzzzzz” was the moment he realized you were a troll. i’m just guessing though.

      1. Good luck getting a sharp photo on that A7r with any lens past 200mm. Even if you could get the focus locked, the shutter vibrations would make it hit and miss at best. Every camera systems comes with compromises.

  22. No. It can’t be a camera for all situations because F2.8 is just too slow for 1″ sensor in low light. If any of the future 1″ sensor cameras comes out with a F1.4 lens ( at least at the wide end ), it could be as useful as some sub FF ILCs with average lenses.

    1. No single camera and lens combination is best for every imaginable scenario. I think Admin was simply suggesting that this is a great all-purpose camera, relatively speaking.

    1. Red herring. Except for my new GH4, I have never owned a “weatherproof” camera. All of my cameras have been exposed to normal conditions of dust and water spray. Unless you are buying a camera for diving or underwater filming “weatherproofing” is just a selling feature. For underwater filming, diving etc …. weatherproofing offers no protection from submersion or being left out in a dust storm.

      Weatherproofing or lack thereof will not hinder sales of the FZ1000.

  23. GH4 or FZ1000…
    + the 5 axis stailization is great.
    – But I don’t see external microphone+headphone jack. :/

    ? Does it have the pedestal feature of the GH4?
    ? A comparison in low light (f2.8 ISO 3200 on 4/3″ sensor and equivalent on the FZ1000) will be interesting.

    0 Both have Zebra + focus peaking.
    0 Both have the Wifi remote
    0 The fixed lens looks like all you need for a second or third body.

    1. Beware of the 4K crop, which makes the camera more like 37-600 (good for birding though where you might want that 4K as a burst mode).

      The FZ1000 has mic inout but no headset out. Hope I could help.

      Hard to find serious comments like yours with questions under all these junks posts.

  24. Why did they write “25-400” on the lens? I thought this was a small sensor. Or is it a full frame camera?

      1. Here, you are pretending to be an Olympus owner (with a sub-100 IQ ) trying to incite a scuffle between Panasonic and Olympus owners. It is obvious that you are not an Oly owner because Oly doesn’t do large sensors either.

        You are angry that Panasonic is kicking butt with all their new products, none of which show any deference to large sensors. Panasonic is keeping the troll so busy trying to sew seeds of doubt that he barely has time to mention all the wonderful Full Frameness of Camera X.

    1. Actual fl would be meaningless to most people. The point if 35mm equivalent specs is that it’s a standard. Hopefully, you understand the concept of standards. Do you know how long 47 foobars is? How about 3 meters?

      1. Really? Standards? Why don’t they convert the aperture as well then? I wonder. Wait, I have got it: they only tell you what makes them look good. Do you think I may be right?
        So sunshine, are you one of them, trying to pull a half con, or are you one of the sukkers who buy on their stories?

    2. LOL it’s one of their usual scams: they convert the focal length but not the aperture. Now, I am waiting for comprehensive school products to hotly debate me on that…

  25. both panasonics i’ve owned have had a problem with dust-sealing causing dust to reach the sensor. i wonder if this is a problem with all fixed lens panasonics or just the smaller point-and-shoots.

  26. More and more trolls are sprouting on this m43 site. Good news for us, actually: It means the “traditional” “full frame” makers with their cropped sensors (cropped compared to medium format LOL) are running scared and funding more FUD campaigns to try and stall the inevitable. Shades of the IT world, no. Yet someday soon they will be pincered out by small Digital Full Frame sensors (that’s m43 LOL) on one end and True Full Frame sensors (645+ LOL) on the other.

  27. Come, “full frame” trolls: the more of you there are here, the more we know your masters are running scared.

    1. Scared of a ridiculously priced bridge camera? Canon and Nikon are shi_tting themselves all the way to the bank.

      1. I’d guess that Canon & Nikon have much to be concerned about. Judging by the knee-jerk flame-outs from our pet Troll – constant, around-the-clock spitting and sputtering, lying, dissembling, trash-talking, invective hurling, name changing, and just all-out menacing of this forum and the Sony Alpha Rumors forum, there is obviously trepidation in the “Full Frame” camp.

        I would further note that just a few months ago this forum was literally filled to overflowing with niggling crap about the supposed superiority of FF. Obviously things have changed to where our resident mascot Troll is spending all his time trying to find tiny quibbling disappointments about all the new non FF camera products.

        The ground is quaking beneath the flat-footed “full-frame” weirdos and their boffins.

        I couldn’t care less what camera someone else chooses. The more choices the better! However, if new smaller sensor cameras are stressful for some, it isn’t going to get any better. These are the good ole days for FF.

        1. Relax and put away that funny dictionary. FF is and will always be far superior, but this is not about your envy, it is about this new overpriced bridge camera. It is not going to find many buyers, continuing its manufacturer’s long tradition of overpriced plastic toys. Wanna bet?

        2. FF is here to stay and still offers huge amount of advantages over this Panny offering.

          Though would want to see how the FZ-1000 compares to either the GH4 or the E-M1. I guess there is still a large gap in photo quality to expected.

          Who would want their existing GH3/4 or E-M5/1 sold to buy a FZ-1000?

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