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For some weird reason not all kits and colors are available in every country. For example US stores do not sell the Black Camera (again..weird), 20mm kit is not selling in Germany and so on. An US source told me that Panasonic will sell the Black camera only if the demand is be high. So let’s do a little help for Panasonic marketing department and let them know what GX7 package is your prefered.
But first the updated preorder list that now includes Canada and Germany preorders too:
Silver GX7 body at Amazon US, BHphoto, Adorama, Samys, Henrys and Wex Deutschland, Wex UK ,and Amazon JP.
Silver GX7 with 14-42mm lens at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, Samys, Henrys and Wex Deutschland, WexUK.
Black GX7 body at Henrys, Wex Deutschland, Wex UK and Amazon Japan.
Black GX7 with 14-42mm lens at Henrys, Wex Deutschland, Wex UK.
Black GX7 with 20mm lens at Henrys, Wex UK and Amazon Japan.
Silver GX7 with 20mm lens at Henrys, Wex UK and Amazon Japan.
And now let the Panasonic managers know what kit you like most:
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92 Responses
i heard the kit zoom is not worthy of putting on that camera.. i guess the 80% want body only in your pole, attests to that ?
sorry, i can’t even spell ‘poll’. what an ass whole !
U will regret
regret selling my d7000 ?
maybe.. although i should hold onto it until i fully try a m4/3… i dont do action shots, so that AF thing is not important..
AF in low light is tho…. and that concerns me a bit in the current releases of the cameras.
“if the demand is there”….are you kidding me with all the “does it come in black” whingers in the US. Please! LOL!
All you EU whingers whinge about the 1:1 Euro to Dollar thing. 😉
I’ll see if I can get a black GX7 when I’m in France in September… and get that VAT back!
….and pay US customs when crossing the border 🙂
Just throw away the box and noone can say anything, as many EU tourists do when they exit B&H in NY.
If the customs ask you about your camera when you return home, they will want to see proof that you purchased it not during your trip.
Can they ask for VAT if you received it as a gift from your nice french friends? 🙂
For the price: 1000 euros, ~20% VAT in France, ~1.3 dollar/euro conversion, it roughly brings the cam to 1000$ no?
a.) Yes they can
b.) If imported into Germany from the US, when customs has doubts you need to pay first and then can reclaim tax and customs back when showing a receipt afterwards. The proof of burden in Germany is on you, I assume it’s the same in other countries.
Good question, would be interested to know as well. All I know about US customs is that they don’t let you bring in an apple for lunch and you’ll get into trouble if you want to gift your nephews with Kinder surprise eggs.
German photographers are advised to take copies of the invoices for their gear when they travel outside the EU. And at least regarding parcels from outside the EU, the German customs don’t care whether you’re receiving a gift or something you purchased yourself – but maybe they have different rules for travel baggage.
Exactly. No box, no evidence.
US Customs is more interested in food, cash and drugs, not a li’l ole camera. 😉
Mr. Reeee, you and I both know that the Euro is not worth a $1.30 USD. Ridiculous. That is why it is only fair that the cameras are priced with the 1:1 Euro to Dollar.
It has nothing to do with “fairness”.
In fact if you correct the worth of the dollar by National debt, it might as well be worth 50 Eurocents, or even less.
Sometimes the national crash will come, detroit-style,and you’ll see how many cameras you can afford.
Since we cured our debt, we could say that we are subsidizing your buys.
Maybe no debt, but what has Italy done since the fall of the Roman Empire or the Renaissance?
Mussolini? Pointy shoes? A stable government? Hell, even pasta came from China.
😉
I didn’t imagine you were such a filthy racist. American nazis a sad trend by now. with the other part slaves to the NSA, and the FBI.
Suits well the ex-Land of the Free, living in fear.
BTW the CEO of the European Bank is an Italian. We pay our debts – you don’t.
There’s an old saying here in the good ole US of A:
You can dish it out, but you can’t take it.
I think you need a humor upgrade, buddy boy. 😉
I agree, the US is totally fucked in plenty of ways! There’s no need to preach to me about it.
If I could get steady work, I’d move to Europe in a New York minute.
Definition of a New York Minute: The time it takes for the first person to honk after the light turns green. 😉
Do you remember the racist terms you have bestowed upon people during the last few days? Are your meds wearing off again? Quick, the needle!
He’s gotta point though. Good ol’ US of A is now the good ol’ NS of A. Oh wait I didn’t say that. I didn’t really. Don’t track me bro!
Well, I don’t know if you are kidding or not, but in fact Italy is much more productive than, say, the US in everything involving arts (e.g. liric music or design, and although the recent Hasselblad makes it sound a ridiculous thing, it is not).
But I got used since long time ago not to expect too much of knowledge of history or geography from USA citizens.
(besides, the coming of pasta from China is not much more than a popular myth…)
Yes, twas a joke. 😉
Ah, pasta! Mix ground grains and water. Shape and boil. What a unique invention!
Then again, $1 is not worth $1 either! 😛
Wouldn’t ordering from Canada be easier and possibly cheaper? And wouldn’t you prefer a NTSC model that also doesn’t have the 29:59 minutes recording limit? (It is applied to cameras for sale in the EU to avoid additional taxation as “professional movie cameras”)
….but…I thought this thread was about black cameras…and Mr. Reeee I am from the USA….so this mess all started on your assumption! LOL!
o.o?! Sorry, I don’t get it.
Please read thread from top where I first posted and it should make sense…
No, it doesn’t. What mess are talking about? My question only was if a European model would actually be interesting for US customers – because of the different frame rates and because some people might be bothered by the 29:59 minutes recording limit – and if it’d really be cheaper than getting a Canadian model.
Oh yeah, the evil EU video recording limit! Grrrrrr Forgot about that.
Yet another dumb marketing decision by Panasonic. This will further encourage me to wait for the price to drop and the black version to arrive, if ever.
Looks like they have the black version in Canada, so we could always spend a bit more and order from there.
I feel like the black coat makes it look a little less retro.
Dang! I want a silver body with a black lens.
Cheap marketing tricks. Create an illusion of exclusivity and release at later date to boost sales, and make it seem like the company is listening to consumers. Was mildly interested, but if they drag this on they’re going to get their thunder taken away by other announcements.
I doubt it’s anything that sinister. This isn’t Olympus! (just kidding, folks, calm down)
MFT isn’t as popular in the US as Europe/Asia so they’ve decided not to offer the full range of options to keep stock levels low. Nothing weird about that. As they admit, if the GX7 sells well, they will re-appraise the US market and offer more options as the market allows/demands.
In the meantime, in this modern world of online shopping and fast shipping, I’m sure the few people really desperate to get an all-black body will just pay a bit extra and buy a non-US model online and get is shipped to the US.
> MFT isn’t as popular in the US
Most likely because it’s hard to buy any MFT stuff in the US, as both Panasonic and Olympus don’t ship large amounts to the US anyway. o_O
I don’t get how watching the sales of the silver model will tell them how much interest there might be in the black model.
People who want to buy the camera will either settle with what is available at the moment (the silver body) or turn to online shops from other country. I doubt that most of the former these two groups would sell off their silver body by the time a black version is made available in the US. And the latter group will not contribute to US sales figures and not help make MFT, or more generally mirrorless cameras more popular in the US by a way that could be measured in sales figures.
No 20mm-Kit in Germany? This is a joke, isn´t it?
Yap, the worst! -.- But Wex UK delivers for 20GBP extra on that 999GBP to Germany and one might even get that UK VAT back (there is some possibility), since we have to pay our own VAT on top of that. That 1020GBP would be something around 1180€. 😉
There will probably be sellers who put together their own kits anyway – they’ll probably sell the GX7 with the 20mm II for the typical kit price, the only difference being that they’ll be delivered in separate retail boxes.
I too hope.
shop.panasonic.de doesn’t list GX7 yet. The http://www.panasonic.com lists GX7 with 20mm and although picture of the silver model, the specification doesn’t mention color.
I would be seriously pissed if Panny wouldn’t offer black 20mm kit in Germany.
What? No Pink?!
I was going to vote for Pink… 🙂
panasonic make it happen! all black! and what happened to the pz mkII?
Compared to the few numbers of units Panasonic apparently delivers to the US, even normal demand figures would look like a lot. Why do they even have to think about whether there will be adequate demand for the black body if they have previously hardly ever delivered enough to satisfy demand?
Admin, if you talk to Panasonic – make it clear that there is early-order demand now. They should make a decision quickly and let the USA stores list the black pre-order options and a good idea of the ship date (hopefully same as the silver pre-orders shipments). Please communicate with your (currently) eager customers.
Otherwise, some customers will buy outside USA, or will lose their early-adopter enthusiasm and go into “wait for Olympus / Sony / Fuji” mode. Certainly it’s somewhat emotion-driven, and the typically long wait from announcement to availability definitely hurts sales.
Question is, I have the Silver/Black reserved already. I hope it wouldn’t be a problem to switch.
Knowing panasonic, they’ll screw up the release date. Won’t see the camera for another year anyway even if they do release anything.
For what can i see, the US Panasonic Market Research Department fail again, the people wish the black a lot more than the silver.
Wish in one hand and crap in the other. See which hand fills faster.
I ordered a black with 20mm kit from Canada since it’s not available here (US)
I will get the silver body and stick a red dot on it :-/
Silver body only for me .
That will be beautifully set up with my 75mm & 45mm lenses . Still waiting for reviews of this camera to see if worth the upgrade to pair with my beloved GX1 .
25% in ISO & 10% in Resolution sounds a little considering a sensor with AA filters removal .
I think demand for expensive cameras has crashed in the US. Perhaps Panny doesn’t even have a marketing unit there anymore, and is distributing directly from Japan.
Anyway I don’t understand the frenzy. You order a camera without even knowing the sensor performance, and then perhaps you sendi it back? The American market is not a serious one. It’s just hit and run.
I understand wy companies are worried.
Some of us have caught on that sensor performance is just a tie-breaker nowadays. It’s hard to buy a high-end camera with a crummy enough sensor to make a difference in actual photography. Factors such as lens availability, feature set, and control placement/overall handling are much more important to the final quality of your pictures.
Sorry but I don’t agree. I like the GX7 for the ergos, and I might get it as a second camera months from now, but there is no way I’d buy it without at least knowing the DR.
DR is the single most important aspect in a camera, followed by colour signature – if you are a photog. All the other perks are just pleasant toys.
E-M5 is revolutionary because of its DR, which is another aspect of lack of noise, and great sensitivity.
And you’d ignore this?
that is more than a tad ironic every other post of yours is fundamentally racist with America and Japan being most often on the receiving end. Think about your post here for just one second you are accusing the previous poster of being a “filthy racist” and “Nazi” for holding a different opinion to yours.Beyond the cult members there are few who would not have criticism for the ergonomics of the E-M5. As an owner of an E-M5 the ergonomics are for me the only fault in an otherwise fine machine.You are most fortunate that there is no way to complain here or you would have been removed a long time ago.Behaviour such as yours has no place in a democratic world.
Fie! A second WASP racist caught red handed!
Sad for you that this is not an American site, with Kapos controlling the camp like at DPR. You can buy Amazon without first having to lick the boots of your gaolers.
I am sure you miss your camp hard-ons, gauleiter!
+10
I agree about minor IQ differences and high-end models. There are minor differences between the GH3 and OMD. Even the GH2 is pretty close to the OMD.
Ergonomics, external controls and UI are crucial. If I don’t like the way a camera handles, I won’t want to use it. That’s why I never bought a DSLR (too goddam big!) and chose a GH2 over the G-series, GF1/2 and all of the PENS. Personally, I find the OMD atrocious ergonomically and interface-wise. It’s too bad it takes such good photos, but not that much better than the GH2.
What do yo know, filthy racist. You even discriminate against Oly to the point of lying through your teeth.
Yes Oly cameras are too complicated for your Nazi peabrain. Why don’t you get a gun in your mouth, like in ‘Platoon’?
You know better guns than cameras in your cesspit.
Dear me a little fat baldy man from the most corrupt country in the western world who attacks every race he can complaining of someone else being racist.Sadly for you the war is over the fascists lost.Perhaps you should stop posting in public forums and retreat to your private Il Duce shrine
What I find funny is that my father liberated Italy with the British 8th Army. What were they doing the fathers of these in the meanwhile, but plundering and raping?
You order the camera without seeing reviews/test results yet, because the it’s just a preorder & the camera doesn’t ship until Sept/Oct, and so even if you don’t trust the PR and marketing preview that it’s an improvement, you know there will be plenty of tests in time to let you cancel the preorder before it ships.
Is that behavior so hard for you to understand amalric? You fret over the strangest little niggly things, often it’s hard to take you very seriously …
Why do you try to reason with a racist sociopath?
The poll needs to include an option for “I don’t care,” because I don’t. I’ve pretty much gotten over minding what color my camera is. My E-M 5 happens to be black because that was what my local dealer had. I pre-ordered a silver GX7 because that was what Amazon had. I bought a white Lumix LX7 because I figured the light color would be easier to find in my messenger bag, but that’s the extent to which I think about it.
Atta boy, Admin, I knew you had it in you and thanks. This should change things a bit.
Americans can order from Henry’s in Canada, and they will ship to you. They have the black and silver/black GX7, with and without the kit lens.
http://www.henrys.com/search/panasonic%20gx7.aspx
BTW, you are welcome. 🙂
Oh! I forgot… They also have fantastic extended warranties too. 🙂
http://www.henrys.com/Henrys-Extended-Life-Plan.aspx
thank you very much!
wtf was Lumix USA thinking? no black version? idiots…
I think the silver model is way richer and a little retro looking for my money. I will buy one but only after I read some reviews and some GX7 sensor comparisons to other camera models..but all evidence is very promising so far!!!!!
Already it’s more than two to one in favor of black.
I will seriously cancel my preorder of the silver body, shortly before release, and buy nothing, if a black body is not offered. It’s my money and I won’t be forced to spend it on something I don’t like. If companies don’t cater to the wishes of their customers, then they don’t deserve to get anything.
Olympus was too stupid to figure that simple truth out, hopefully Panasonic doesn’t follow in their footsteps.
gx7 will sell well when it hit $299, black or not.
By not offering the Black GX7 in the US I want to thank Panasonic for giving me one reason less to upgrade from my black em5. Not that I’m sold on the IQ or the IBIS so far.
Had a look at the gx7 on the weekend, was not to impressed with it the evf sticks out far too much, will catch in pockets and pulling it out of smaller bags, when raised for low level viewing I also felt it felt somewhat flimsy and hardly robust enough for much use. Also took a few shots with it and the jpegs are definitely behind em5 standard which should mean also behind ep5, all in all a disappointment for me.
huh…but the viewfinder doesn’t stick out on the OMD?????????????????????????????????????????
It does but not as much and certainly not on the corner, and as regards the numerous comment that have been written on the eye cup coming off I’d like to know how they do it as I’ve had no issues with it.
My first eyepiece came off in the first week…I lost it while out shooting….I knew that I was going to lose it…the way it was manufactured it just slipped right out…there was no stop. I bought the accessory eyecup EP-11 which is deep and blocks out light ( and sticks out! LOL!)…and I have never had an issue with it just sliding out . the fact that it sticks out more, you would think it would be more prone to getting knocked off…but it has not been an issue. I think my original was defective and I think a lot of OMD’s were shipped with defective eyepieces.
Wow, so many more people prefer black to silver. How is it that stockholders pay the salaries of marketing directors that appear to be incompetent buffoons? I suggest everyone email a link of this page to Panasonic customer service.
To be fair, those who want silver have little reason to take part in this poll. The results were always going to be skewed towards black for this reason.
I actually like both and am lucky that all the kits are available in Australia.
Seeing the pop up flash on the picture, I wonder if it can be tilt upwards?
Yes offre course flash is tiltable. Just check vidéo préview posted few days ago in m43rumors
Here is a link to Panasonics website email.http://shop.panasonic.com/ecom/support/contact-us?t=email
black should be the default option for all cameras. there are several good reasons pros prefer a black body. I think the silver looks cool, but would never get it for professional use.
Wait, hold on. USA really only got the silver model???!! Panasonic, wtf are you thinking. *facepalm*
Where are all those 20mm lens haters?
While I’m not sold on this camera until I see more reviews and image samples, I can say that I will not consider it in Silver. If it is available in black and matches or beats the IQ of my E-M5, I would purchase a black version.
I just don’t understand why the GX7 wouldn’t be available in black over in the USofA
not quite so drastic but in the UK the G6 comes with the olde 14-42 and not the new one … must make packing them for different markets a little complicated.
wouldn’t it just be simpler to have all the m43 in body only boxes and offer ‘deals’ on ‘any same brand lens’ so if you want the extreme GF6+12-35 you get a but of a bundle saving.
the fact that a few shops offer split kits on EPL5/EPM2 shows that there is body only demand too!
oh and no requirement to claim or mail in for your discount …. do it all at point of sale (make it simple for the CUSTOMER)
What about GX7 with 25mm kit? Is it still happening?
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