I’ve only just bought a G7, so no more cameras for me. As for lenses, I’m waiting for the 42.5 f1.7 to come down in price. I would be interested in a fast ultra-wide, naturally.
Just curious, why ‘us’ in a GR competitor? Why does Olympus need to make one, if the GR already exists? (And coolpix A and probably Fuji X70 for that matter). These are not system cameras, you are not hamstrung by sticking with the same system. GR is an excellent camera and it’s UI is the best in the business, really can’t seen Olympus making something better.
Why ? 4/3 sensor so body can be smaller than APS-C ; IBIS ; Maybe (why not ?) a native 35mm equiv. ; maybe (why not ?) an EVF in corner ; dust problems on GR sensor ; and finally, putting some pressure on the GR price. Coolpix A, as far as I know, is discontinued, and X70 is still a rumor… Oly has a tradition of making small and competitive camera’s for street shooters, and the Trip was a glorious one. It’s a niche market, but the GR is alone on it for now…
If the 20mp sensor and the IBIS/Dual I.S. features of the GX8 make their way to the GH5, then it’s the GH5 for me. I may consider the EM-1 Mark II if they show some improvement on the video side (better codecs, higher bitrates), a better sensor, and show some progress in regards to build quality (dials falling off, dead LCDs etc etc). Not holding my breath for that, though.
wait detail,if e-m2 used 20mp that so boring ,many camera used same sensor,:P
no detail for GH5 but gx7 sensor is not in GH4 does mean new GH use new sensor.
“if e-m2 used 20mp that so boring ,many camera used same sensor,”
Many cameras? The GX8 is currently the only micro 4/3 camera using a 20mp sensor. No idea what you’re talking about with the rest of your post. I’m assuming you’re suggesting that the GH5 will have a new sensor. I think that’s a given. The IBIS/Dual I.S. is more uncertain, I think
yup – some of those old OM mount lenses that Olympus made are still very useable – and there are holes in the current lineup where there are good OM lenses available…
You could always consider buying a nice used OM 100mm f2. Thanks to IBIS, manual focussing is pretty straightforward. Although the camera/lens combo might be a little “top heavy”.
Nocticron 17mm F1.2 & Oly tele F1.2 lenses are top of my list ☺ .
The new PEN F should be camera to watch in 2016 ?.
It really need something special for me to put my money on it ? otherwise X Pro 2 likely
the right camera to go ? .
No point having extremely awesome lenses but the cameras can’t make full use with it ?.
I can pay as long as it provide me stunning imaging quality .
I can just get a D810 or A7r 2 if I want .
I prefer something compact and yet powerful photography tool & that’s why
I stay with m43 .
But since 2013 , m43 seen lacked of progress in the imaging quality & that is
not a good sign .
What would REALLY benefit the system is a really significant sensor breakthrough….I am sensing that that is not coming down the pike this year…Like the GX8 sensor is about it….
LOL!…I KNOW…I do sound like Yun,(hopefully not as bad..I still love the system)….here is the thing…. I may buy the new PEN if it has waaaay better controls and is not larger than my E-PL6 with VF4…but I have to say…my EM5II and EM1 offer great compact PHOTOGRAPHER responsive lens-holding boxes. They are a great (compliment to my FF system)…but if 2016 is going to offer only the GX8 sensor….MFT will not get any serious money from me. PEN (maybe) Oly 300mm (but I will most likely wait a year for the price to go down)…. What is cool is I will not be spending a lot of money..and just concentrating on making images!!!
I really cannot get excited about the f/1.2 lenses. I have the 42.5mm Nocti, a 25mm Nokton and the 15mm Pany/Leica… They are incredible pieces of glass…The cost and the size of the f/1.2’s just does not excite me…(If I really want low DOF I am grabbing my FF camera and suffering the weight and size for the results!).
Let’s see what actually shows up.
Hell, there’s already a cheap, very good Samyang/Rokinon alternative (7.5mm f/3.5, here in Europe @ 300 € only) ! Why would you need an Olympus version ? Autofocus ?
I have the Samyang too – but still want a nice rectilinear wide angle. Why can’t Oly make a reasonably priced prime – they have the 7-14mm f2.8 zoom and the 9-18mm f 4-5.6 zoom…the latter is actually kind of goofy…who wants f5.6 at 18mm? They should have just made a 9mm prime, even if it is f4 – as long as the image quality is there, I’m fine with f4.
E-M1 users don’t want to downgrade to an E-M5 II, and they certainly don’t want to downgrade to an E-M10 II. Why is that difficult to believe?
Users of older Panasonic bodies have 2 high end bodies (GX8 and GH4) and one full-featured mid-range body (G7) to choose from. The one Panasonic body that people are looking forward to (GM7 / GM8) isn’t on the list!
I agree that the PEN-F likely won’t be as popular as the OM-Ds, but it’s supposedly a big refresh / rethink of the line, so people are curious.
the first is i do not hope… manufactures are a big looong epic fail of marketing nonsens and
nogos we have now again 2016?
10bit:: if a camera is not abel to record intern 10 bit ( okay say normal codecs/ pro res
would be a niceer one..) i DO NOT BUY!
s-log:: if you put that in the camera i want i clear one ( v-log) not a castrated bit byte zullu.
4k:: a clear 4k record signal in 300/sec and 50/60 frames sec
GLOBAL SHUTTER and DR of 10– okay
PRICE:: i will give 1200,-$ for this nakede body and all is from first day intern.
not internet not one day not no..( if a 4k good sensor bmc cam does it for 1500–you are
gone–if they do it in fine sensorsice ) ( 1500–okay!)
if not i do not buy.
We see the funny ass show of sony, this fine A7 porn ( if the brain can handel you would
see that 3500,- is much for rolling shutter and overheating, and so on,, an no the grainy
granny of gh-4 is also fine..nope? Canons 1inch ball would make it fine..if the glas in front
would not be fixxed…and so on) shure the fine Samsung nx1 is killed..it delivers the best
dslr-film-image we ever seen..but the codec and so small..what would it do in 200/sec and
in xahvyyz12234 / pro res?..and so on.
I do not see the ignition of normal 8bit 4k 1 inch 299,- Cameras?
why not?
Wait till all is smartphoned land?
And stop this nex next next year…
judy garlend
a now clear and real would be better– an yes if it fits–i will not buy any next 6 years–first
you said it is fine–now not? what?
Panasonic needs to go Full frame to match with Sony. Olympus needs to go for full frame SLR to compete with the Canon Nikon for volume of business. M43 is heading towards the direction like Four third, even the average consumer know the small format has poor image quality already. What is the Four Third format digital revolution has delivered that Olympus promised when first starting out Four Third? Pros and consumers can process photos easily with their 486 computer?
What? The image quality is excellent. Poor image quality compared to what exactly….test charts?
No one wants to be in the SLR business anymore. There is no growth opportunity there.
M43 is not heading towards four thirds because it’s the system and not just the sensor that is selling the line. If you want true compact with the most advanced features outside of video there is no other game in town. Olympus owns it and better sensor technology only makes the smaller systems more desirable- not the other way around.
Mirror less FF for panasonic- yes. For olympus, not sure about that. I can’t imagine we don’t see another FF mirror less competitor next year outside of Sony. Have to strike while the iron is hot and now it is HOT!
A little off topic but the lens I really want is a non-extending weather sealed 12-60 zoom f2.8-f4. To me this makes for the perfect travel zoom and something m43 should take advantage of.
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Missing the GM7 to answer question #1 🙂
I’ve only just bought a G7, so no more cameras for me. As for lenses, I’m waiting for the 42.5 f1.7 to come down in price. I would be interested in a fast ultra-wide, naturally.
What lens? Maybe the 9mm 2.x
Not sure if that would be 2016 though.
What about the Trip-D (or whatever you name it) ? Please Olympus, give us a decent Ricoh GR contender !
Trip-D…whatever happened to the so-called rumour? There were so may comments and now…???
It seems that Oly decided to go with the Pen F instead of a camera with fixed lens. Which is good.
Good ? maybe for your personal taste, but obviously not for pocketability…
Just curious, why ‘us’ in a GR competitor? Why does Olympus need to make one, if the GR already exists? (And coolpix A and probably Fuji X70 for that matter). These are not system cameras, you are not hamstrung by sticking with the same system. GR is an excellent camera and it’s UI is the best in the business, really can’t seen Olympus making something better.
Why ? 4/3 sensor so body can be smaller than APS-C ; IBIS ; Maybe (why not ?) a native 35mm equiv. ; maybe (why not ?) an EVF in corner ; dust problems on GR sensor ; and finally, putting some pressure on the GR price. Coolpix A, as far as I know, is discontinued, and X70 is still a rumor… Oly has a tradition of making small and competitive camera’s for street shooters, and the Trip was a glorious one. It’s a niche market, but the GR is alone on it for now…
If the 20mp sensor and the IBIS/Dual I.S. features of the GX8 make their way to the GH5, then it’s the GH5 for me. I may consider the EM-1 Mark II if they show some improvement on the video side (better codecs, higher bitrates), a better sensor, and show some progress in regards to build quality (dials falling off, dead LCDs etc etc). Not holding my breath for that, though.
wait detail,if e-m2 used 20mp that so boring ,many camera used same sensor,:P
no detail for GH5 but gx7 sensor is not in GH4 does mean new GH use new sensor.
“if e-m2 used 20mp that so boring ,many camera used same sensor,”
Many cameras? The GX8 is currently the only micro 4/3 camera using a 20mp sensor. No idea what you’re talking about with the rest of your post. I’m assuming you’re suggesting that the GH5 will have a new sensor. I think that’s a given. The IBIS/Dual I.S. is more uncertain, I think
Not sure the Sony 20MP will be in there E-M1 II as it has no PDAF.
I hope for a GH5 and a Panasonic 12mm f/1,7.
12-65 f/4 will be the next lens I buy. It might be a long time eh. And if Canon put 70D sensor in an EOS-M body, bye bye m4/3.
They already did that with the M3. But I think this is the year they take mirror less seriously. Expect a camera to rival the XT1.
M3 doesn’t have 70D sensor.
Lens: 20mm which AFs fast. But that was my wishlist for 3 years straight.
Camera: I want in 2016 something smallish. Improved GM1 with at least some thumb grip? and all other goodies freshened up?
I’ve been wanting a fast 20mm as well. Maybe smaller in size for the GM series
Lens wish: Metabones AF-enabled EOS-M43 adapter and a Canon 600/4 L.
The G6 has been out in 2013, and the G7 in 2015, so most probably no G8 in 2016, a typo ?
f1.2 stuff might be nice but I’d like some more telephoto options like a 200 f4 or 100 f2 or a zoom 100-200 f4.0
Olympus 40-150mm F2.8 with teleconverter covers that entire range.
yes, it’s very nice….also big…and pricey…and a 100 f2 prime it ain’t.
and a 100-200 f4 could be much more compact…just sayin.
yup – some of those old OM mount lenses that Olympus made are still very useable – and there are holes in the current lineup where there are good OM lenses available…
You could always consider buying a nice used OM 100mm f2. Thanks to IBIS, manual focussing is pretty straightforward. Although the camera/lens combo might be a little “top heavy”.
Nocticron 17mm F1.2 & Oly tele F1.2 lenses are top of my list ☺ .
The new PEN F should be camera to watch in 2016 ?.
It really need something special for me to put my money on it ? otherwise X Pro 2 likely
the right camera to go ? .
No point having extremely awesome lenses but the cameras can’t make full use with it ?.
Yun, I don’t think Panasonic and Olympus is taking your threats seriously. You might as well get the XPRO II and be done with it. It looks good.!
It really does ;(
Time will tell .
I’m monitoring the progress of X pro II closely .
A tele f1.2 will be a beast of a lens. You say you want it, but I doubt very many people will buy a 2lb.+ $2,500 lens.
I can pay as long as it provide me stunning imaging quality .
I can just get a D810 or A7r 2 if I want .
I prefer something compact and yet powerful photography tool & that’s why
I stay with m43 .
But since 2013 , m43 seen lacked of progress in the imaging quality & that is
not a good sign .
I would like to see a GM7 with DFD and tiltable Touchscreen (EM10 style). Sadly IBIS is too much for this tiny body.
Maybe a Mamiya 7.
What would REALLY benefit the system is a really significant sensor breakthrough….I am sensing that that is not coming down the pike this year…Like the GX8 sensor is about it….
You’re beginning to sound a lot like Yun. 🙂
LOL!…I KNOW…I do sound like Yun,(hopefully not as bad..I still love the system)….here is the thing…. I may buy the new PEN if it has waaaay better controls and is not larger than my E-PL6 with VF4…but I have to say…my EM5II and EM1 offer great compact PHOTOGRAPHER responsive lens-holding boxes. They are a great (compliment to my FF system)…but if 2016 is going to offer only the GX8 sensor….MFT will not get any serious money from me. PEN (maybe) Oly 300mm (but I will most likely wait a year for the price to go down)…. What is cool is I will not be spending a lot of money..and just concentrating on making images!!!
I really cannot get excited about the f/1.2 lenses. I have the 42.5mm Nocti, a 25mm Nokton and the 15mm Pany/Leica… They are incredible pieces of glass…The cost and the size of the f/1.2’s just does not excite me…(If I really want low DOF I am grabbing my FF camera and suffering the weight and size for the results!).
Let’s see what actually shows up.
I wasnt sure if it is you, Bob, your picture profile is missing sometimes 🙂
yeah..on my iPad disqus is a MESS! LOL!
GM8, but it’s not on the list…
Well, looks like I voted on the two most popular. Can someone please then tell me….OLYMPUS…WHY YOU NO MAKE ULTRA WIDE ANGLE PRIME!!!!!!
Geez, is an 8.5mm F4 to much to ask for?
Hell, there’s already a cheap, very good Samyang/Rokinon alternative (7.5mm f/3.5, here in Europe @ 300 € only) ! Why would you need an Olympus version ? Autofocus ?
That’s a fisheye. Unfortunately- hommie don’t play that. I need a wide prime without the side funk going on:)
I have the Samyang too – but still want a nice rectilinear wide angle. Why can’t Oly make a reasonably priced prime – they have the 7-14mm f2.8 zoom and the 9-18mm f 4-5.6 zoom…the latter is actually kind of goofy…who wants f5.6 at 18mm? They should have just made a 9mm prime, even if it is f4 – as long as the image quality is there, I’m fine with f4.
Funny thing- I just started looking into this fisheye. I was suprised to learn that- even de-fished- it is sharper than the 9-18mm.
Well well…I guess I’ll have to eat my words on that one. I never could have imagined. Actually, de-fished it’s just about as good as the 7-14mm panny.
So…well…I bought it.
I will still buy the 9-18 at some point and I still want an 8.5 prime. Right now, I must investigate this fisheye for myself. Should be interesting.
Here is one of the articles I found: http://m43photo.blogspot.com/2012/06/lumix-g-7-14mm-compared-with-samyang.html
Olympus: We know there is demand… so… we study this possibility…
Panasonic seems to have fallen out of favor, at least so far as these surveys are concerned.
Why?
It is mostly just because there is a pent-up demand for new high-end Olympus bodies, since the current models are old.
The E-P5 and E-M1 are both older than the high-end Panasonic GX8 and GH4 bodies, so their users are itching for replacements.
Video users and those who prefer Panasonic UI are, presumably, largely satisfied with the current offerings which are still top-shelf cameras.
Pardon, but that’s a load of bull… They just released the EM5 MkII, which is a top shelf Olympus camera, as well as the EM10 MkII.
No one until very recently was checking for a new PEN, as the OMD series killed it.
I’ll even bet that the new PEN STILL won’t sell, because everyone will be waiting for the New EM1 MkII!
Just look at the poll… the EM1 more than DOUBLES the vote of the PEN!!
Stop avoiding the truth…
E-M1 users don’t want to downgrade to an E-M5 II, and they certainly don’t want to downgrade to an E-M10 II. Why is that difficult to believe?
Users of older Panasonic bodies have 2 high end bodies (GX8 and GH4) and one full-featured mid-range body (G7) to choose from. The one Panasonic body that people are looking forward to (GM7 / GM8) isn’t on the list!
I agree that the PEN-F likely won’t be as popular as the OM-Ds, but it’s supposedly a big refresh / rethink of the line, so people are curious.
PLEASE go buy a FF and leave.
This poll is odd. We know only about Olympus F1.2 primes, no word about next Nocticrons. New GM is more likely than the G8 next year.
It’s to stir up the fanboy nest. It’s obvious, as you can see from the polls. Pure click bait.
Click Bait…I thought that only referred to the women that I date…hmmmmmmm
the first is i do not hope… manufactures are a big looong epic fail of marketing nonsens and
nogos we have now again 2016?
10bit:: if a camera is not abel to record intern 10 bit ( okay say normal codecs/ pro res
would be a niceer one..) i DO NOT BUY!
s-log:: if you put that in the camera i want i clear one ( v-log) not a castrated bit byte zullu.
4k:: a clear 4k record signal in 300/sec and 50/60 frames sec
GLOBAL SHUTTER and DR of 10– okay
PRICE:: i will give 1200,-$ for this nakede body and all is from first day intern.
not internet not one day not no..( if a 4k good sensor bmc cam does it for 1500–you are
gone–if they do it in fine sensorsice ) ( 1500–okay!)
if not i do not buy.
We see the funny ass show of sony, this fine A7 porn ( if the brain can handel you would
see that 3500,- is much for rolling shutter and overheating, and so on,, an no the grainy
granny of gh-4 is also fine..nope? Canons 1inch ball would make it fine..if the glas in front
would not be fixxed…and so on) shure the fine Samsung nx1 is killed..it delivers the best
dslr-film-image we ever seen..but the codec and so small..what would it do in 200/sec and
in xahvyyz12234 / pro res?..and so on.
I do not see the ignition of normal 8bit 4k 1 inch 299,- Cameras?
why not?
Wait till all is smartphoned land?
And stop this nex next next year…
judy garlend
a now clear and real would be better– an yes if it fits–i will not buy any next 6 years–first
you said it is fine–now not? what?
Ugh? What is this? Some Clingonic dialect? I have no idea what you are trying to say…
Panasonic needs to go Full frame to match with Sony. Olympus needs to go for full frame SLR to compete with the Canon Nikon for volume of business. M43 is heading towards the direction like Four third, even the average consumer know the small format has poor image quality already. What is the Four Third format digital revolution has delivered that Olympus promised when first starting out Four Third? Pros and consumers can process photos easily with their 486 computer?
What? The image quality is excellent. Poor image quality compared to what exactly….test charts?
No one wants to be in the SLR business anymore. There is no growth opportunity there.
M43 is not heading towards four thirds because it’s the system and not just the sensor that is selling the line. If you want true compact with the most advanced features outside of video there is no other game in town. Olympus owns it and better sensor technology only makes the smaller systems more desirable- not the other way around.
Mirror less FF for panasonic- yes. For olympus, not sure about that. I can’t imagine we don’t see another FF mirror less competitor next year outside of Sony. Have to strike while the iron is hot and now it is HOT!
Troll speaketh.
Blah, blah, blah. You’re in the wrong forum. Lots of FF options. Go enjoy one of them.
I just want a proper follow up to the LX100, with touchscreen at the very least and continual 4K recording to top it off.
Yeah, no touchscreen on the LX100 was definitely a /facepalm moment for Panasonic.
I would say tilting touch screen.
PL 17mm 1.2 would be awesome they in my opinon make the best 43 glass.
Is the 17mm 1.2 PL in the works? This is the first time I see this. Any info?
Other: Veydra Mini Anamorphic and any camera that can do 4:3 photo mode video capture
Samyang 50mm f1.2 ^^
A little off topic but the lens I really want is a non-extending weather sealed 12-60 zoom f2.8-f4. To me this makes for the perfect travel zoom and something m43 should take advantage of.