Auckland In My Pocket – Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera from A Couple Of Night Owls on Vimeo.
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43rumors reader Jeff just sent us that message:
“Over in the dvinfo.net blackmagic forum, I had the chance to ask John Brawley if he was allowed to comment on RAW yet he responded by saying the camera will likely ship without raw and it will be added at a later date. He’s maintained he hasn’t been allowed to release any footage or info without BMD’s permission. They must have authorized him to make that statement. First time I’ve seen him comment on raw.“
Pity we have to wait for the fw update to get RAW recording. Anyway, we will patiently wait for the new firmware as we will had to do for the camera. BHphoto (Click here) changed the status for the Blackmagic camera. It now says “Available for pre-order” and no more “shipping on July 25”. Hope this doesn’t mean it’s delayed. But the camera is worth the long wait. Juts watch that new video sample on top…amazing quality!
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P.S.: Blackmagic Pocket Cinema preorders in USA at Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here) and in Germany at Technikdirekt, in France at pbs-video. In Sweden at macoteket, scandinavianphoto, protel.jetshop, webhallen.
31 Responses
I don’t mind even if they drop RAW completely in favor of some consumer codec. Less size and non-stop recording without card swapping is of higher priority for me than minute color nuances.
This cam is not designed for you, go buy a Sony Nex like most of the other sheeple.
add RAW and then I consider buying it. People can say and promise a lot all day long… when are they going to add it? in a month or maybe in a year? XD
Small sensor with big crop factor and no RAW. But his webpage says that this model has raw mode.
Liers. Besides, theres people who wants great video quality from a product for no professional/common consumer footages. Is so hard to understand?.
No raw?? BFD!! ProRes 422 is more than OK.
Internal ProRes recording is more than fitting for this camera. Sensor crop and cost don’t have this marked as a professional unit so it’s impressive that BM have promised RAW at all — albeit Magic Lantern has us questioning why it isn’t more widely available.
Quite what the hold up is who knows but as long you don’t want to push the image to ridiculous proportions this should be brilliant from launch.
If there is no raw, then i prefer to buy a GH3 or a Canon 70D. Theres no big difference between that ProRes 422 and GH3 videos I seen on Vimeo.
No RAW, no party!. “But prores is more than ok”….boring!!!.
I own the GH3 and there is definitely a difference in dynamic range, but not as much as some seem to think. I would rather shoot DNG RAW and convert to Cineform compressed RAW than use prores at nearly the same bitrate, but that’s just my preference.
The quality of Vimeo is not good enough to show the difference. Only when you do the grading, then you would appreciate the quality and flexibility of a 10 bit footage. ProRes 422 10 bit is good enough for me for the time being. Just ship that damn thing.
Is there a site with good enough quality to show the difference?
Streaming, probably no. Downloading, plenty.
First Blackmagic Pocket cinema camera ungraded ProRes 422 files.
Shot with using Slrmagic 35mm 1.4, 7-14 Olympus 4/3, 14-35 Olympus F2
1920x1080p25
http://fil.io/FL5kh/Footage%20from%20Blackmagic%20Pocket%20Cinema%20Camera
Raw is the only reason I’m getting this camera. Hopefully it will get it fairly soon after launch. There is a huge difference between raw and ProRes.
I’m confused. In the info for the BMCC – Auckland City (where I live!) clip on Vimeo, “A Couple of Night Owls” says that the first 1:15 of the clip was recorded RAW and rest in ProRes.
I have no dog in this fight, but if the camera doesn’t support RAW, how was Night Owls able to record using it ?
Hey, the “BMCC – Auckland City” is a different video which i shot with the 2.5K EF mount BMCC. The “Auckland in my Pocket” video was shot with the BM Cinema Pocket Cam as was NOT shot raw. Cheers. 🙂
B&H says “Records Full HD 1920×1080 CinemaDNG RAW”
No RAW me no buy!
Don’t make me get a 5D3…
haha! Auckland! represent! 😀
I was actually around town where that was filmed on the day! I saw some dudes orchestrating the korean drummers towards the end but didn’t know what it was for!! i didn’t stay around long enough to find out 🙁
If you see me out shooting, come say hi. 🙂
hahaha these BM guys are hilarious.
Again very poor form that emails get ignored and rude women answer their helplines. Even worse that no PDF manual is even available to browse. Terrible and amateur.
If it was a rude man would you have specified their sex?
+1
How can anybody tell how much DR or filmic the camera looks when it’s a finalized rendered piece? It would be better to see a flat version as it was imported in order to really see how far it can be pushed. Image looks great, but I only see post goodness.
FWIW the Blackmagic website still shows the pocket camera as shipping in July with lossless DNG. That’s only a week away. So, what is the FT rating of the no Raw and delayed shipping rumors?
What sensor is it on this blackmagic pocket?
Epic fail.. as usual in the camera industry..
They should have put in Compact Flash cards instead of SD. 150 MB/s vs. 95 MB/s.
This has an active m43 mount, if you already have m43 lenses you probably have SD cards since I think all m43 cameras use SD cards and I don’t know of any that use CF cards.
Makes since to me that they use SD cards.
Also if people had the GH2 and hacked it they probably already have at least one very fast card.
Has anyone seen rigs aimed at this camera yet? I’m thinking of getting one and while I’m probably mostly going to use it either bare or with just a simple handle on it, it’d be nice to have a real but lightweight shoulder rig when I need it. In general, it seems like both this and the GH series could use a new generation of lighter but still pro-quality rigging kit.
I believe this conversation has died 2 months ago already, but as BM Pocket Camera is now out, I believe its more relevant to discuss about this issue as they still market it with RAW but havent updated it to do so. Personally Im little bit disaappointed as although the camera has nice picture quality, it has so much stupid issues that Im starting to think that I made bad decision buying one.
– No SD formatting
– No RAW
– Very poor battery performance
– Demands ridiculous SD cards
To be honest, I dont get what is so unique about the picture quality either, I film with 5Dmk2, 1Dx and have just ordered FS-700RH, but this camera…uuuhhhh…. so far is the only new camera that Im not jihhaa with.